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Is there any workaround...?
Whats the problem ?
All the apps i have ever bought / downloaded, via the market work fine.
I believe this is what he's talking about
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
http://androinica.com/2009/02/23/some-paid-apps-unavailable-on-unlocked-phones/
It appears that as of February, Google made it so whenever a developer selects the "Copy Protected" option when listing their application on the marketplace, that application will not appear for any rooted phone or developer phone. Basically it seems they did this because a rooted or developer phone can extract the APK file after purchasing an app, and then return it while still keeping the application.
I recently became aware of this today as I was working with a developer to determine why his application would not appear in the market. It's a shame - the majority of the root community is not out there to STEAL apps, we support our developers, I was trying to find his application on the market so I could BUY it. I really wanted to purchase the application and now I have no way to do it, simply because I wanted to use my phone to it's full extent instead of being stuck on the stock firmware.
rabeatz said:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
http://androinica.com/2009/02/23/some-paid-apps-unavailable-on-unlocked-phones/
It appears that as of February, Google made it so whenever a developer selects the "Copy Protected" option when listing their application on the marketplace, that application will not appear for any rooted phone or developer phone. Basically it seems they did this because a rooted or developer phone can extract the APK file after purchasing an app, and then return it while still keeping the application.
I recently became aware of this today as I was working with a developer to determine why his application would not appear in the market. It's a shame - the majority of the root community is not out there to STEAL apps, we support our developers, I was trying to find his application on the market so I could BUY it. I really wanted to purchase the application and now I have no way to do it, simply because I wanted to use my phone to it's full extent instead of being stuck on the stock firmware.
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Any example of apps not showing up on the market for us?
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Any example of apps not showing up on the market for us?
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Search for the application Accudial on the market. It's copy protected. I get 0 results. Thats the one Example I am aware of but it also could be related to the fact that I'm on a 2.0.1 ROM instead of the older ones, switching back to test again. It's kind of hard to determine whether or not there are apps being hidden from us, if we don't know the app exists how are we gonna know it's hidden from our results?
It's because your on a Eclair rom..just searched on the WG 10 (Donut) and got AccuDial and AccuDial Free
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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I can find all of those apps they mention.
Dunno.
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Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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They did lift the "block", I know of at least 2 protected apps that I can use, Nesoid and Mobile Defense (not protected anymore but it ised to be)
Right now, I can only find Accudial Free but not Accudial. I'm on Cyan 4.2.9.1.
Maybe that's because I'm not in the US??? Or that I don't have a Google Checkout account???
Thanks!
rabeatz said:
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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That was a long time ago.
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That was a long time ago.
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The fair labor standards act was passed in 1938. Still in effect today. Just because Google made the change 10 months ago doesn't mean it suddenly was removed.. Whenever I search on the topic all I can find is info that says that access to copy protected apps been disallowed, can't find any article that mentions them removing the block.
I'm not saying it hasn't been removed, but it's kind of hard for me to know whether or not i'm being blocked from applications, I don't know what ones are copy protected and what ones aren't, or if theyre being blocked from me, because they simply wouldn't show up and I wouldn't even know they exist.
If the block has in fact been removed, it'd be nice to see if anyone could find an article that mentions it. Everything online talks about the block being placed
rabeatz said:
The fair labor standards act was passed in 1938. Still in effect today. Just because Google made the change 10 months ago doesn't mean it suddenly was removed.. Whenever I search on the topic all I can find is info that says that access to copy protected apps been disallowed, can't find any article that mentions them removing the block.
I'm not saying it hasn't been removed, but it's kind of hard for me to know whether or not i'm being blocked from applications, I don't know what ones are copy protected and what ones aren't, or if theyre being blocked from me, because they simply wouldn't show up and I wouldn't even know they exist.
If the block has in fact been removed, it'd be nice to see if anyone could find an article that mentions it. Everything online talks about the block being placed
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Search Nesoid, that is a protected app. If you see the paid version then they lifted the block
Have you ran market enabler?
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Have you ran market enabler?
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What's that...?
Edit: Got it... http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/ And it works... Thanks for the tip...!
Edit 2: Market Enabler works by mimicking certain APNs, be sure to backup your current APN first and restore it after getting the apps (it can be done within Market Enabler).
Cheers.
Hello everyone,
This is my first post, but I have been lurking in the shadows. Thank you for everything you guys have done for the Android community.
I am running CM 4.2.1, and after loading some silly SPL from some guide, messed things up, wiped and reflashed. Having done that I installed only a few programs. SAM (SlideMe Application Manager) gives me the following warning.
"WeatherFirst App warning!"
If you have installed WeatherFirst application, there has been a security warning issued. Recommended to remove
The notification remains there all the time. From the limited info available I have concluded it is a botnet, or some variation used for this website: "wunderground.com," which is where I get my weather on my PC and accessed once on Android. The information I found, and the first result on Google is the following:
hxxp://mobilecomputingauthority.com/?p=111 (sorry I cannot post links, so you'll have to copy/paste and change the x's)
I would like to know how to remove it.
Any help is appreciated.
Funkz
WeatherFirst clarification
Hi Funkz. As the author of your referenced blog post at MobileComputingAuthority,I thought I might chime in and help to clarify the post, this app, and ease your fears a bit; at least as far as I understand it.
In the post I said that the WeatherFirst app was a proof-of-concept application demonstrating how users might be tricked into downloading and installing an application that might be malicious. The app uses the GPS receiver to get your current location, then transmits that information to a server. The server then converts the coordinates into a zip code and submits the weather request to wunderground on your behalf. This interaction is itself harmless, but demonstrates that there is an opportunity to do something malicious on the server or to transmit data (GPS coordinates in this example) without your knowledge or consent. I'm unclear about whether the use of the GPS was disclosed or not.
So the gist of this is that the WeatherFirst application is not a malicious application (ie botnet client). The researchers that made it, DID make a malicious version, but that version was never released to the public according to their statements and I don't have any reason to question that.
Hope that helps clarify things and thanks for reading MCA!
Bill
Hello XDA'rs,
I work for the developer Loud Crow Interactive Inc. and we build book apps for kids.
We've recently launched into the Android Market and are having trouble with our app being installed on rooted nook colors. The issues appear to be on the licensing side.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what this could be? Also, what does a rooted nook register as (device) on the Android Market place,
Thanks in advance,
Tom
What's the error, logcat ?, what's the app?
dude u gotta give some info if need a solution.
There could be a million things that could cause problems like that.
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Hello XDA'rs,
I work for the developer Loud Crow Interactive Inc. and we build book apps for kids.
We've recently launched into the Android Market and are having trouble with our app being installed on rooted nook colors. The issues appear to be on the licensing side.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what this could be? Also, what does a rooted nook register as (device) on the Android Market place,
Thanks in advance,
Tom
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We are all waiting for an answer. I have an outstanding request in with Google that I have had to update several times as they seem to be dancing around the question. When and if I hear I will post a response.
The App is "The Going to Bed Book" or "PopOut! The Tale of Peter Rabbit" - Our users are getting a "Invalid License" error. We're going to root one of our nooks soon to do some testing, but until then we were thinking we might be able to get something from the forums. Both users who reported the issue were running CM7, which I also run on my HTC IS, and runs our apps fine. Thus we're thinking it could have something to do with the device ID running against the licenses?
As we set up restrictions by device, We were curious what a rooted NC running CM7 would show as in terms of a device on the Android Market place?
Thanks for the help guys, and thanks for the patience. I'm not the actual Android developer on the team. He's out of the office for the week,
Cheers,
Tom
I think he means he is having trouble getting the application to install from the market in general. I looked up the applications and the NC was not a supported device.
I don't want to pay the money to download it to my phone and sideload it (I'm at work anyways). I don't know much about applications and how devices are determined to be compatible other than maybe their permissions. However, these applications (there are two on the market), don't require anything other than SD access.
As we set up restrictions by device....
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That might be part of some of this. I was not aware developers were setting restrictions by device. Is this new?
model name -NookColor
product name -encore
And there is really no way to find out the problem, without looking at the logcat.
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That might be part of some of this. I was not aware developers were setting restrictions by device. Is this new?
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No, this feature is available to every developer since a long time. but there are 600 or so devices so not a lot of people bother with it.
rigy73 said:
model name -NookColor
product name -encore
And there is really no way to find out the problem, without looking at the logcat.
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Actually, questions to the market run against your account and the email info and log the following device details:
> IIILanguage: en
> IssueType: market_website
> Language: en
> android_app_name: Facebook
> android_os: gingerbread
> android_os_other:
> device_manufacturer: other
> device_manufacturer_other: Barnes & Noble
> hidden_country: US
> website_issue_select: grayed_device
device_manufacturer= bn
If u want to know more take a look at build.prop, people have uploaded it in netflix thread, which reminds me that a lot of users usually change their device and fake it to run different apps.
rigy73 said:
device_manufacturer= bn
If u want to know more take a look at build.prop, people have uploaded it in netflix thread, which reminds me that a lot of users usually change their device and fake it to run different apps.
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Those were direct quotes from what Google's filters picked up when I sent an email while logged in to the market.
Thanks guys, this will be a good start. If and when we resolve the issue I'll be sure to post an update with the details. I really wish Android Market supported promo codes; we'd love to be able to throw out some free copies for you guys to have a look at and test for these one off issues.
Thanks Again!
I assume if you sideload the .apk it will install fine?
Just want to contribute that I have the Going to Bed Book installed and running fine on my Nook. I am still running CM7 7.1RC, and have my build.prop spoofed for Netflix (no longer required, but I never changed it back and haven't flashed a new CM7 in a while). The only change I made in build.prop was setting the manufacturer to HTC.
The book runs great and is my son's new favorite app.
You may have an issue using get.DeviceID()... have one of your users use my IMEI generator and see if it fixes their problem. They can also spoof Manufacture, Device and Model with the newest version.
IMEI Generator Thread.
I have it on my CM7 (7.0.3 to lazy to update, running off sd no changes to build.prop) Nook and it works fine. My daughter loves it.
Some of the pages are kind of hard to register a turn, and it always starts upsidedown then flips itself over. But both of those things are the same on my incredible 2 as well.
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I noticed that there are a lot of people struggling with devices with a Mediatek-based CPU who can not get a good GPS fix. Therefore, the EPO GPS files by the manufacturer are required to get GPS working. These files can be downloaded manually, but since they have to be updated every once in a while, I decided to write an application which allows you to do it automatically!
MT GPS EPO Fix was already available by me in the Play Store, which solves the GPS Fix problem for most of the users. However, some users mentioned that the method I use to download the files does not tell the user whether the download succeeded and others said they would gladly donate to this project.
Since I could use the money because I'm going to university within three months, I decided to write an entirely new application for those who wish to donate for my efforts, with automated GPS EPO downloads through the native Android DownloadManager, along with various functions for Mediatek-based devices. These include:
- Downloading and installing the GPS EPO files with a more reliable download method and providing support on how to get your GPS working
- Saving your IMEI backup automatically and providing instructions on how to restore them
- Entering the Engineering Modes with a single button
- Rebooting your device into Recovery Mode
The Unique Selling Point of this application is the GPS EPO Fix, which has been proven to be very accurate in fixing GPS on (mostly Chinese) phones and tablets with an MTK-based CPU. If you want to get this functionality for free, you can download my free app 'MT GPS EPO Fix' from the Play Store. However, if you appreciate my work and you would like to thank me for the efforts, you can download MTK Suite in the Play Store:
Check MTK Suite in the Play Store
Please do not redistribute the APK on other sites, as it takes time to develop apps and because I know the GPS EPO Fix is necessary for a lot of users, I decided to implement that in the aforementioned free app. MTK Suite is suitable for you if you want the improved download implementation, the IMEI backup tools, or if you just want to thank me for writing these applications (thanks in advance guys ) and would like to donate some money in return. Furthermore, there are many more functions that are being tested at the moment and which will be added to MTK Suite pretty soon. If you would like to see any additional function, please don't hesitate to mention it here. I hope you'll enjoy it!
Nice idea
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Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
webmiester said:
Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
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I work with Remix as a Ambassador I will post this to the board and see if I can get you a answer for your issue. Will be in touch ASAP.
webmiester said:
Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
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heh no the mini in the current state is not good for education (root need soldering),you should try cloud ready the Chrome os distribution for pc,they are fond of chromebooks in education I think
tailslol said:
heh no the mini in the current state is not good for education (root need soldering),you should try cloud ready the Chrome os distribution for pc,they are fond of chromebooks in education I think
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Thank you Taillol for your suggestion of using Chromebooks. Chromebooks are currently not in my mind as one of the viable solutions though. I heard that most applications of Chrome are dependent on the internet. What I like with Android is that it has enough applications which can load locally like office apps and paint programs. So in this case, I can free up bandwidth if the user decides to use any app found in its memory.
Android also has applications which are very similar or almost identical to their windows and Linux and Mac desktop counterparts. For instance, I plan to use the android version of textmaker HD for the android boxes while using either the linux or windows versions for the offices using PC (or even use the remix x86). In this way, the applications will look the same in whatever machine they will use. Although google office is also available in all these platforms including chrome, I dont want to get a subscription for business.
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I work with Remix as a Ambassador I will post this to the board and see if I can get you a answer for your issue. Will be in touch ASAP.
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Thank you so much Wastemeter2014. I was hoping to come up with some sort of solution soon as I was planning to buy the Remix mini units already this week. Ill have to wait for your reply.
Sorry for the delay, Tailslol is a member of the same Ambassador team. I have forwarded your request to the engineering team. I have a few ideas I will try today but the current OS has limited options in which to lock it down to the extent you are looking for. That being said, please allow me a little further time to consult further I havn't forgotten you.
webmiester said:
Thank you Taillol for your suggestion of using Chromebooks. Chromebooks are currently not in my mind as one of the viable solutions though. I heard that most applications of Chrome are dependent on the internet. What I like with Android is that it has enough applications which can load locally like office apps and paint programs. So in this case, I can free up bandwidth if the user decides to use any app found in its memory.
Android also has applications which are very similar or almost identical to their windows and Linux and Mac desktop counterparts. For instance, I plan to use the android version of textmaker HD for the android boxes while using either the linux or windows versions for the offices using PC (or even use the remix x86). In this way, the applications will look the same in whatever machine they will use. Although google office is also available in all these platforms including chrome, I dont want to get a subscription for business.
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Yes i am an ambassador too.
And we are looking for a solution internally.
Current version of the mini lack of tools for this kind of use.
I was suggesting Chromebooks mostly because they have Google adminstrative tools and recent ones have access to Android play store.
tailslol said:
Yes i am an ambassador too.
And we are looking for a solution internally.
Current version of the mini lack of tools for this kind of use.
I was suggesting Chromebooks mostly because they have Google administrative tools and recent ones have access to Android play store.
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I would agree that chrome would be better suited at this point. The parental tools on Google Play I looked at today still would not lock it down the way you would like. The software engineers have your request.
First, I really appreciate the interest you've shown. I've been talking to the developers and here's the latest.
To fulfill the needs of your scenario, there is development work that we need to do. To that end, there is good news and bad news.
The bad news is, we haven't had the resources and time to develop it yet, so the Mini or any Remix OS product right now can't claim to support Mobile Device Management or any type of kiosk mode fully.
However, the good news is that two weeks ago, we started the ball rolling on this development. The timing is unclear, but we are aiming for the end of Q1 or early Q2 2017 with the releases for Remix IO and Remix IO+. This development should also provide Minis with administrative rights and management ability.
I'd hope that you do stay in touch and when we have it done, we'll update you then.
Thanks!
webmiester said:
Hi,
I would like to use the Android Mini as a terminal for our school library. However, kids using the terminal may just install software from the Play store or from other sources (just share it from their own devices will already work). They can also play loads of games on the mini.
How can I restrict this? I tried using app blockers downloaded from the play store but I think because of the Mini's multitasking capabilities, it is possible to easily disable the app blockers simply by pressing ESC. Can I do this without rooting (I am not experienced in rooting and prefer if the solution did not need to open up my mini)
Thanks a lot
webmiester
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First, I really appreciate the interest you've shown. I've been talking to the developers and here's the latest.
To fulfill the needs of your scenario, there is development work that we need to do. To that end, there is good news and bad news.
The bad news is, we haven't had the resources and time to develop it yet, so the Mini or any Remix OS product right now can't claim to support Mobile Device Management or any type of kiosk mode fully.
However, the good news is that two weeks ago, we started the ball rolling on this development. The timing is unclear, but we are aiming for the end of Q1 or early Q2 2017 with the releases for Remix IO and Remix IO+. This development should also provide Minis with administrative rights and management ability.
I'd hope that you do stay in touch and when we have it done, we'll update you then.
Thanks!
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Thanks so much.
I downloaded the x86 version of the Remix and installed it on a PC. I noticed that the PC version gave options on bootup. One of them was a "guest mode". From the description it says that "Guest Mode" cannot save anything. Does this include the inability to install apps? The Guest Mode sounds like it can work, but I wasn't able to explore the PC version so extensively.
If so, maybe we can have a "guest mode" for the Remix mini too then simply password protect the "Resident mode" so students wont simply reboot and choose "Resident Mode" on reboot. If the guest mode already exists for the x86 version, then I suppose the code for this type of admin control is already available. Thanks.
webmiester said:
Thanks so much.
I downloaded the x86 version of the Remix and installed it on a PC. I noticed that the PC version gave options on bootup. One of them was a "guest mode". From the description it says that "Guest Mode" cannot save anything. Does this include the inability to install apps? The Guest Mode sounds like it can work, but I wasn't able to explore the PC version so extensively.
If so, maybe we can have a "guest mode" for the Remix mini too then simply password protect the "Resident mode" so students wont simply reboot and choose "Resident Mode" on reboot. If the guest mode already exists for the x86 version, then I suppose the code for this type of admin control is already available. Thanks.
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you can install app but not large ones due to the limitation of ram and usb drive size and none will stay when the computer reboot. account information will not stay too.