Lens extends on camera activation and startup - Galaxy Camera Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

anyone with this otherwise great device will be familiar that upon boot up and camera activation the lens automatically extends.
Sadly, in my case the lens has broken as a result of
1/apps that activate the camera programatically, pushing itsself out of its car cradle physically damaging the lens assembly
2/ Power on lens extension when held in hand like a phone, lens in palm of hand.
I emailed to samsung and suggested they use a proximity sensor ( very common on phones) mounted on the front of the device ( lens side) to check the path the lens will take during extension is clear, or possibly even using data from the focus beam. I suggested that If it cant extend safely then it should not, rather than risk damage to the motors inside the lens. Samsung could actually apply this to all their cameras.
I also suggested the default on power up should be to not activate the camera app, which extends the lens ( after all this is a hybrid device) it may be possible for devs to alter this behaviour ?
It also occurs to me that developers who make device specific apps for this device could win some serious respect if they used the accelerometer Z reading to ensure the camera wont activate when device is lens down/screen up avoiding the lens causing the phone to do pushups which also bends usb connectors.
I know this belongs in the development forums for this device but I can't access them due to having less that 10 posts. Hope someone can add it for me Many apps can activate the camera programatically, it's worthy of consideration as a lens fix costs $200.00 and is not covered by wararanty.

Better yet, if someone could discover a way to make it NOT startup in the camera app. Then the lens would only come out when I actually run the app.

I admire your enthusiasm for making these suggestions to Samsung but they will fall on deaf ears. The simple and certainly quickest solution is put an extra option in settings "Toggle camera on startup ON/OFF"
Done.

it gets worse
yep, that would solve the startup issue but any app can activate the camera programatically, meaning they can start the camera according to any variable, time, location, force etc.
Initial quote to repair was 150.00, but It also now appears the motherboard is damaged, since it is behind the lens, so now the cost to fix is $450.00, just a few dollars short of its replacement cost.
This device can damage its self without you having to touch it.
Pretty serious problem

That's a bit odd. The same thing happened to me more than once but there seems to be some sort of protection against damage as the lens of my camera goes back in after hitting an obstacle (they only need to monitor the current drawn by the zoom motor).
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paulikxp said:
That's a bit odd. The same thing happened to me more than once but there seems to be some sort of protection against damage as the lens of my camera goes back in after hitting an obstacle (they only need to monitor the current drawn by the zoom motor).
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Interesting, I'm sure that mine does not do that, the motor seems quite strong and pushed as hard as it can, perhaps they rectified it in later versions, I bought mine Christmas 2012 which I assume was the first "model " as such. I get the lens error, but it stays out, only returning when you power it off. funnily enough I'm pretty careful where and how i leave it positioned

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Do you experience issues with your camera?

Forum, I have HTC One M8. This morning the following message started showing up: duo camera is blocked, please make sure all lenses are uncovered.
Does anyone have any idea?
PS. All lenses are uncovered and thoroughly cleaned.
Thank you
Doesn't look like your case is the culprit. Having said that, have you tried using the camera without the case? Only time I've encountered this issue is when my finger was in the way of the duo camera itself.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Doesn't look like your case is the culprit. Having said that, have you tried using the camera without the case? Only time I've encountered this issue is when my finger was in the way of the duo camera itself.
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I have identified the problem... defective camera itself. When i pick up my phone, and shake it gently, there is a rattle sound thats coming from the camera. In addition, the top camera (under the lens) rotates every time i jog or shake the phone. So in short, its defective camera, but since i do not have the coverage, im SOL for now.
Thank you

What's up with the S5 camera and the focus?

The camera's focus is so bad that I can't even use my own phone anymore for depositing checks using my bank's mobile app -- I have to use my wife's iPhone 6. It's not that the phone is damaged - unless it came like that from the factory - as it's had bad focus issues since day 1.
When I try to focus on something, it will focus and then it bounces back to somewhat blurred. If I try it multiple times eventually moving the object closer or further away from the phone, I can get it to focus properly. But what a pain!
Am i the only one with this problem or is everyone else noticing the same?
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meissen said:
The camera's focus is so bad that I can't even use my own phone anymore for depositing checks using my bank's mobile app -- I have to use my wife's iPhone 6. It's not that the phone is damaged - unless it came like that from the factory - as it's had bad focus issues since day 1.
When I try to focus on something, it will focus and then it bounces back to somewhat blurred. If I try it multiple times eventually moving the object closer or further away from the phone, I can get it to focus properly. But what a pain!
Am i the only one with this problem or is everyone else noticing the same?
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I don't have that problem. Are you tapping on the screen to focus? If so and you still have bad focus issues, you probably have a defective camera.
I get excellent photos from my S5. Do make sure that the piece of plastic has been removed from the lens, that causes all sorts of problems. If that isn't it, then yeah, possibly a defective camera.
meissen said:
The camera's focus is so bad that I can't even use my own phone anymore for depositing checks using my bank's mobile app -- I have to use my wife's iPhone 6. It's not that the phone is damaged - unless it came like that from the factory - as it's had bad focus issues since day 1.
When I try to focus on something, it will focus and then it bounces back to somewhat blurred. If I try it multiple times eventually moving the object closer or further away from the phone, I can get it to focus properly. But what a pain!
Am i the only one with this problem or is everyone else noticing the same?
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If you are still on the warranty period, go to service and they will change your camera. If your warranty period ended, then the most easier and cheapest way to fix it is by buying a defective S5 that has only the camera working on it, and change that with your defective camera. If still doesn't work try a factory reset, actually try this first. And if still that doesn't work, then I don't know...
But good luck anyway.
meissen said:
The camera's focus is so bad that I can't even use my own phone anymore for depositing checks using my bank's mobile app -- I have to use my wife's iPhone 6. It's not that the phone is damaged - unless it came like that from the factory - as it's had bad focus issues since day 1.
When I try to focus on something, it will focus and then it bounces back to somewhat blurred. If I try it multiple times eventually moving the object closer or further away from the phone, I can get it to focus properly. But what a pain!
Am i the only one with this problem or is everyone else noticing the same?
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I do have the same problem from day 1. I feel that my s4 camera was lot better than s5
cmerlyn said:
I get excellent photos from my S5. Do make sure that the piece of plastic has been removed from the lens, that causes all sorts of problems. If that isn't it, then yeah, possibly a defective camera.
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That tiny piece of plastic can cause all sorts of problems and it doesn't come off with all the other plastic. When I bought my phone and they removed all the plastic, that wasn't removed. It is very hard to see also.
I too have this issue... But not always sometime it works fine but most times not.. especially when focus on near objects.
I also scan item bar codes at store for earning rewards and i always had issue. But when i try scanning upside down of the bar code it gets immediately.
When at closer when i touch to focus, it will focus to sharp image and then goes to blurry image.
lens is clean with no plastic. Strange thing is its not issue always.
I previous phone was S3 an never had such issue.

Camera not focusing and overheating after disassembly/reassembly

My Xperia Z1 fell off the table, the display broke and was replaced by a co-worker. The phone now works but:
- the back camera works but can't focus. The lenses seem to be stuck. Tried to unplug/replug the camera to no avail
- it "seems" to overheat (when using the camera I get a message after a while, saying that I must wait so that Xperia can cool down). However when using temp monitoring apps I hardly ever see anything over 45°C (no gaming). Maybe the overheating message really refers to the camera itself, rather than the phone?
I have checked but the phone seems to be correctly reassembled, so I don't see what could be wrong. Any suggestion?
No one?
hi bro, U must change your back camera part, your camera fail focus because the lens not precision again after fall down from table. and magnet inside camera which is used for focusing lens broken.
first check camera socket using magnifying glass,if dirty u can clean with toothbrush slowly.
Ok, done, the camera was replaced and the focus started working again. But the overheating is still there... I can't take more than a few pictures at a time before a message like "The camera was shut down to allow it to cool down" (my phone is in Italian, so I the translation mught not be accurate).
What to do?

Rear camera-hardware detected, yet black image. Camera "bus" malfunctioning?

Rear camera-hardware detected, yet black image. Camera "bus" malfunctioning?
Hi
Half a year ago my girlfriend accidentally gave my Z3 Compact a rollercoaster ride in our washing machine (full tour). The screen broke, but it could turn on and everything looked fine (gave no errors) when connecting to HDMI.
Yesterday I received a replacement LCD, which gave it a new life. It seems that everything works except for the rear camera. When opening any camera-app, the HUD is visible, but image is black, and no error. If i switch to front camera, which works, and back to the rear camera, it shows a freezed image of the last image from the front camera.
I checked some debug-apps to see if it detects the camera-module, and it does. If it's connected, alle the specs of the camera is listed, and if disconnected, the module is not listed.
I then got a broken Z3 Compact from a friend, and I tested both rear camera modules in both phones. The modules are working in his phone, both doing the same black screen in mine.
I tried hard reset, PC Companion-repair, updates, clearing camera cache etc., but with no luck.
Do you have any suggestion to how I can fix this?
Do you know where on the motherboard I could look for dirt in relation to some "rear camera bus/chip"?
Thank you for any help!
Edit: And isn't it amazing that this phone works to this extend after 2½ hours in 60 degrees celcius (140 fahrenheit) warm water with soap and 1400rpm? Wow! (Btw., all panels were open, and screen totally broken, so water must have been everywhere in the phone.)
I have a similar issue on my partners z3c after the screen cracked, I have replaced the screen and it works great however the camera shows a black screen. I know the camera module is working as I have tried it in another phone. Having searched for this issue I seen it has effected quite a few others not only those who have opened their phone.
what software you used to debug so I can verify that the phone can also see the camera module
This is happening to me too a year down the line of ownership.
Replaced with new camera from eBay still black screen. Between your experience and mine of both testing the camera we've prices it's not the lens, so what could it be.
Need to fix don't know what to do
The camera module itself may work but the chip which handles the rear camera may be damaged even if the phone works pretty good.
So if the chip or anything else related to the camera is dead, you can even try thousands of camera modules from different phones on YOUR phone, none of them will work.
That's my opinion - guy's who work in electronical industry for 3,5 years now and have seen hunderds of differend kinds of damages on different stuff.
I see what you are saying however it would be nice to have an idea of where any chip/bus is that may be damaged to see if it xan be fixed or is replaceable.
romcio47 said:
The camera module itself may work but the chip which handles the rear camera may be damaged even if the phone works pretty good.
So if the chip or anything else related to the camera is dead, you can even try thousands of camera modules from different phones on YOUR phone, none of them will work.
That's my opinion - guy's who work in electronical industry for 3,5 years now and have seen hunderds of differend kinds of damages on different stuff.
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zackariah said:
I see what you are saying however it would be nice to have an idea of where any chip/bus is that may be damaged to see if it xan be fixed or is replaceable.
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Yes, you are 100% right but there's another thing.
In the present times, in a rush of miniaturization, there's a little chance of such reapair to be profitable. The chip/bus may be damaged but in fact not only one thing may be dead... I'm talking about tiny little resistors, capacitors, diodes, transistors (if there are any on the motherboard...) which are many. I'm not saying it won't be possible to repair the phone but without a proper diagnosis what is damaged... I'd be like looking for a needle in a haysack and everyone can tell you that only replacing the whole motherboard will be worth the time.
But still... this is an interesting case of malfunction... I hope you'll find a solution for this or at least someone else will do it for you for a reasonable price.

Doogee S55 camera issue

Hello,
So I have this rugged everything-proof ip68 standard android phone Doogee S55. It has not had any major impact or anything, just few casual drops on the ground (these should be nothing for such a smartphone, right?)
Anyway, out of sudden, I have noticed that the rear camera photo quality seriously deteriorated and it can not focus anymore, for example a picture of a passport has unreadable text which was perfect some time ago.
Also, you can see this random ticks on every photo shot by it. Please look at the attachment.
My question is (assuming it's real hardware damage and I cannot fix it at home)
whether it's possible to programmatically disable one of the dual rear cameras and only use a single one? (Hopefully just one camera is damaged)
Other ideas are welcome as well

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