My Brother, is an iPhone guy, mainly for it's smaller size, says he wants to go Android, he really likes the Nexus or Galaxy S3 phones, but says they are way too large, and is a big turn off to a lot of people. And also says the home button on bottom front of the iPhone, is a very important feature to have, you can turn the phone on with one finger while sitting on the desk, to check things. He said most Android phones you need to press the side button to turn on, and while phone is sitting on the desk, that is really a two hand operation.
The big thing he said, which I LOL'd big time, he said will make a $50 money bet right now on this statement; "By the end of 2014, all top end Android phones like the Nexus 6 and Galaxy S5, will realize they have gotten way too large, and will go back down to the proper size and width of the iPhone 4." He didn't say or expect screen size, but said the WIDTH, he said by end of 2014 top Android phones will go down to iPhone 4 WIDTH. He knows the screen size will always be larger on Android compared to the iPhone, but says they are mainly way too wide, and will shrink the width by end next year.
My opinion is that NO WAY will this happen, Android phones in 2013 will be larger than their previous 2012 version. Of course they will reach a point to stop growing in size, can't keep getting bigger year after year, but NO WAY do I see them going backwards to iPhone 4 WIDTH by end of 2014.
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I would take that bet without even thinking. All signs point to the phones staying this large size. Personally my g/f and I will never be able to go back to anything the size iPhone 4 after using the S3 and Note 2. My g/f is 5 feet so she's pretty small, and not once has she complained about her S3 being too big to operate with one hand. She's currently eyeing my Note 2 and waiting to see what the S4 is going to hold.
I would even be willing to bet that by 2014 the iPhone 6 or 6s will have a larger screen probably 4"+ at the very least.
I personally like my Nexus size @ 4.7", it's not too large like the Note 2, and not small like like the iPhone 5.
I had the Galaxy Nexus too, and now the Nexus 4, I find this size very comfortable, just right.
He's thinking too much like an Apple user. There's no such thing as "Android Phone" - the market is full of different sizes already. Android is not restricted to one form factor, unlike iPhones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/sony-reveals-3-5-inch-xperia-e-smartphone-in-single-or-dual-sim/
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He's thinking too much like an Apple user. There's no such thing as "Android Phone" - the market is full of different sizes already. Android is not restricted to one form factor, unlike iPhones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/sony-reveals-3-5-inch-xperia-e-smartphone-in-single-or-dual-sim/
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Now my Brother complaining about another Android OS issue, compared to iPhone, he is asking, on a Nexus 7 tablet he's trying "How can I move the cursor to the 'end' of an input box, like in Google search page...? If you have a long sentence in there, seems impossible to move to the right"
He says again "See, on my iPhone browser, If I'm on Google and I want to add more to my long search screen, the minute I tap the box it places the cursor on the far right. That way if u need to add or delete stuff from the end, u can do it"
My brother says swimming in a lake is like swimming in a pond or pool..
Typical iPhone user set in their ways androids will always vairey that's the biggest benefit of android not being tied to one spec or size.I owned an iPhone but when I complained regarding signal I received email telling me I was holding my phone incorrectly lost faith in it,which to this day you still see people holding them that way which I think a lot of younger people don't even realise how that came about and personally I find funny as was Apple's answer to gaining a decent connection.
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Now my Brother complaining about another Android OS issue, compared to iPhone, he is asking, on a Nexus 7 tablet he's trying "How can I move the cursor to the 'end' of an input box, like in Google search page...? If you have a long sentence in there, seems impossible to move to the right"
He says again "See, on my iPhone browser, If I'm on Google and I want to add more to my long search screen, the minute I tap the box it places the cursor on the far right. That way if u need to add or delete stuff from the end, u can do it"
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He's got a good point. That's been an annoyance on Android that's never been resolved. On the Nexus One at least there was a trackball which you could use to move the curser to the end of the line of text, but no Android phones have that ability currently.
It's definitely a problem that's long overdue for a fix.
Of course, with the Apple method as you've just described it, if you wanted to edit somewhere in the middle of the line the curser is going to jump to the end and you'd have to delete back to where you want to edit.
But you get a pointer that you can drag left and right to move the cursor, so what's the problem? Touch... slide... hold. Not does the cursor start where you touch (as it should do), but you have a ridiculously simple way of moving it.
Am I missing something?
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But you get a pointer that you can drag left and right to move the cursor, so what's the problem? Touch... slide... hold. Not does the cursor start where you touch (as it should do), but you have a ridiculously simple way of moving it.
Am I missing something?
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Just tried it on my S2 (JB),and you're right, that behaviour has been massively improved. I've not long moved from a Gingerbread device and it was in dire need of a fix. looks like ICS/JB has done the trick.
I suppose he believes there's only 2 Android Phones? Because the S3 Mini is a lot smaller.
One of the main reasons most people (those 82% of the market, in fact.) don't want an iPhone is the tiny screen... Well, that and the lack of customisation.
Also, this home button thing. There's apps for putting a phone to sleep, and you can wake an SGS up with the.. ohhh, big button on the front!
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Of course, with the Apple method as you've just described it, if you wanted to edit somewhere in the middle of the line the curser is going to jump to the end and you'd have to delete back to where you want to edit.
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You do. I believe there's some sort of loop-feature thing that somehow pops up, but I couldn't find it. Spend half an hour figuring out how change 1 letter in the beginning of a 2 page document on an iPhone 5. It's impossible.
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Just tried it on my S2 (JB),and you're right, that behaviour has been massively improved. I've not long moved from a Gingerbread device and it was in dire need of a fix. looks like ICS/JB has done the trick.
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As I was typing that I thought it may have only come into play with ICS. I forget how much of a jump there was from GB to now, having had "nearly" Jelly Bean for a while and then proper Jelly Bean on both my phone and tablet. It's bizarre to think there are phones still being sold with pre-Gingerbread versions on them.
Let's face it, for 99% of users they don't give a toss about the platform. They just want to know what apps are available. Most people (I believe) want a bigger screen, but not too big. Comfortably big, but thin. That's the way of things at the moment. I remember getting my S2 and thinking it was big, but now it looks like a regular phone compared to some of the phones out there. I really don't see why Apple don't make 3 or 4 different models of each iPhone. They could just make them different sizes (same resolution, to save the OS changes). They may have a big brand, but they could have a much bigger one if they just took their fingers out of their ears and started to listen to the rest of the market.
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Tell ur brother he can take his narrow iphone 4 nd ...... it smwhere he cant fit large sizes unlike his ridiculously big mouth!
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Tell your brother that apple sucks compared to android
Nuff said
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Now...now...settle down.
I believe it's a circular dilemma for phone\device makers.
Phones approaching tablet size then tablets reclining into phone size.
Wireless mobile of course started off huge moved to tiny (early Ericsson cellphones) now sizes are yet to stabilize.
Boils down to what fits flat against your hip.
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In my opinion the nexus 4 and the HTC one have prefect screen sizes- 4.7 inches. Not too big and not too small. Note 2 and the Xperia z are way too big for my liking
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4.3-4.7 is the perfect screen size. Even the recently launched SG Grand is 5". Bummer. S3 Mini would have been a better release, and I'm quite sure Samsung won't release it here because they can affect each others sales.
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Most people (I believe) want ... Comfortably big, but thin.
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Not the ladies I've been with they want comfortably big and thick, if you know what I mean
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Not the ladies I've been with they want comfortably big and thick, if you know what I mean
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I'm looking for a android device to start learning and experimenting on...would like to learn Java in the long run.
I feel a nexus device is probably the best place to start but God dang! that Bezel! Can't stop staring at it...like a huge mole on someones nose or something lol
It should of been 7.7" !!!
Its really putting me off pre ordering, now i'll have to wait and see it in person.
I'm beggining to get my hopes up that Asus will soon release a 'better' version like samsung does after producing the nexus phones.
Too bad you don't like it - but you hold the tablet by the bezel.
In landscape, you hold it with both hands...
Personally, I prefer holding the bezel to accidentally clicking on the touch surface.
I don't see a problem with the bezel. On a phone it would be overkill but you hold tablets in a different way unless you have huge monster hands.
I've also decided to try my hand at a bit of coding and I can't wait until I get to the stage when I can apply it on my Nexus 7 (when I get it).
I'm not talking about the side bezel (portrait mode) its the thick top and bottom that gets me. I feel that even when i'm using it, it will get under my skin. I hope it grows on me in 2 weeks (should be released by then).
The thickness of it seems more than adequate for gripping it properly...even though now that I was holding up a magazine I'm starting to see your point.
It still should of been 7.7 though
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I've also decided to try my hand at a bit of coding and I can't wait until I get to the stage when I can apply it on my Nexus 7 (when I get it).
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Do you currently code?
What you looking to get into?
Yeh I agree aswell. 7.7 would've been a great form factor. Like Samsung's model.
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The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.
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The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.
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Wow whose getting their panties in a twist? Why are you getting all defensive their dude?
I just shared my opinion to see if I was the only one and obviously there was a reason to a thick bezel. Thanks to a couple of friendly fellow members above they proved to me that the top and bottom bezel is handy...so i'll probably use it and forget about the bezel.
Same goes for design, maybe it has its place that I just didn't consider
Martias Duarte, the current Director of User Experience at Android, said the large bezels were a conscious choice, for both aesthetic and usability reasons. He said it will probably go under appreciated, and may even remain unnoticed, but he holds the design of the Nexus 7 very close to his heart.
The asymmetrical bezels were implemented so that you can hold the device nicely in landscape, play games efficiently, and also because artwork is often matted asymmetrically.
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Do you currently code?
What you looking to get into?
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No but it's always something I've liked the idea of. I like to think that my mind works in a logical way (although I guess that remains to be seen).
I don't really know where I want it to lead. At the moment its just a challenge I have set myself. I am starting right at the foundations on CodeAcademy (which uses Javascript). Just finishing the tutorial section on functions.
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The Nexus 7 is 7". If you want something different, don't buy it. It's that simple.
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Yea really, its not worth getting frustrated or bummed out about.. That's what it is, so either buy it or don't buy it.
Make sure Google checks the forums before they make their next product to make sure every spec that everyone wants will be in the device.
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I'm looking for a android device to start learning and experimenting on...would like to learn Java in the long run.
It should of been 7.7" !!!
That's what she said!
Sorry, couldn't help it.
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I have a nook color, and I can speak for the need of a large bezel on a 7" device. I ended up getting a case that folds like a book just so that I'd have something else to hold on to.
I disagree with Matias Duarte completely on the need for larger bezels. I don't mind a thicker device, but I absolutely want the front face to be all screen and no bezel (i.e. a few mm on the side and 5 mm top and bottom). Any concerns for aesthetics (really?) or the need to hold on to something are overridden by the desire to get the thing in a jacket pocket. Nevertheless I ordered a Nexus 7 not because I appreciate the physical design - I don't, I think it's ugly. But who cares, I wanted the Nexus experience and after being disappointed by all the Nexus phones, at least now I can get a device with low financial commitment (low initial cost and no monthly plan) that is the pure Google experience.
I hope in the future that Google comes out with a Nexus 6 using something like Toshiba's very high resolution 6" panel with almost no bezel. Until then, I'll play with the Nexus 7 and dream about the future.
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I'm fine with the 7" design. It don't matter to me because I just want a more portable tablet for use while on the bus to work. My TouchPad is too bulky for everyday use (for me at least).
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It still should of been 7.7 though
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it hurts my eyes ...
http://www.engvid.com/grammar-past-tense-should/
well there are rumors of a larger nexus tablet. imo the nexus 7 is the perfect size. its about the size of a dvd case which is easy to handle with one hand, large enough to read pages and small enough to where you dont have to carry it in purse or backpack.
I think the bezel on the bottom really sticks out because of those on screen soft keys. I realize that has been pretty standard since ICS though. I don't know how much sense Matias Duarte makes on the whole design of the bezel on the Nexus 7 as being similar to a matted frame. I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel. I've had artwork professionally framed a couple of times, one is hanging in my room, and everything is centered. I could be wrong though. I don't know much about framing aesthetics.
That being said, I'd rather have a higher resolution 7" screen with greater pixel density than a lower res, less ppi 7.7" screen.
I don't think the design of the Nexus 7 is perfect by any means, but this is an affordable tablet. Compared to the Nook Tablet and the Fire, this thing looks pretty decent. Sure it's no Galaxy Tab or iPad, but it's not really at those price points.
>I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel.
Both Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire have the same asymmetric "bottom heavy" bezel design. Much more pronounced on the Nook.
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It should of been 7.7" !!!
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Yes, but that doesn't exactly fit with their cost-cutting approach.
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I'm beggining to get my hopes up that Asus will soon release a 'better' version like samsung does after producing the nexus phones.
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Unlikely that Asus would bring out a tablet competing with itself anytime soon. Acer's Iconia A110 should be due in Q3 though. (but it's not 7.7 either as far as I know).
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Martias Duarte, the current Director of User Experience at Android, said the large bezels were a conscious choice, for both aesthetic and usability reasons.
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I was thinking about this today, so I went and had another look and feel at the 7.7 As mentioned somewhere in this thread, it makes it more 'pocketable' and is still OK to hold and grip, turn into landscape mode etc.
It however is not going to be the deciding factor of my purchase. The price of the 7.7 here is over £450 ... that is mad money, the new iPad cost less and the Nexus will cost less than half that!
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I am starting right at the foundations on CodeAcademy (which uses Javascript). Just finishing the tutorial section on functions.
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Cool, good luck with that. Can you post a link to the tutorials please.
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it hurts my eyes ...
http://www.engvid.com/grammar-past-tense-should/
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hahahah thanked ! :laugh:
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>I haven't seen a whole lot of framing with a longer bottom bezel.
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I wish there was a picture comparison to a 7.7 samsung
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Yes, but that doesn't exactly fit with their cost-cutting approach.
Unlikely that Asus would bring out a tablet competing with itself anytime soon. Acer's Iconia A110 should be due in Q3 though. (but it's not 7.7 either as far as I know).
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Thanks for the informative post! The 7.7 would of raise the price significantly I imagine, you're right
First time, long time.
Alright, well before I get flamed for either being up Steve Jobs ass or being a Google loyalist, first alittle about my history with Apple and Google.
My first real Smartphone was the HTC G1 running Andriod 1.0 before that the closest thing I had was an LG Dare. I got it on day 1 and was really excited to see what Android was all about because I was sick of people showing off there iPhones and I never considered myself an 'Apple Guy'. I liked the phone but for anyone who remembers it, it really couldn't hold a candle to the iPhone. So long story short I had it for about a year got drunk and left it behind in cab. At that point I took the plunge and got an iPhone 3GS, and was very pleased with it. All that lag that I had gotten accustom to with my G1 was gone and I had access to a much larger App store. I had the 3GS for two years then I upgraded to the 4S which was a much smaller leap forward. The screen was nice but you stop noticing it after awhile and Siri, looks cool in commercials but in real life serves no purpose unless you're driving. Needless to say it wasn't a huge improvement over my previous 3GS. I was on the fence about getting the 4S I really wanted to try and get back into Android with the Nexus Prime, but my contract was up and their wasn't even an Official release date on the horizon yet just speculation.
Now in terms of tablets. The first tablet I ever bought was the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I was real excited to get it. I liked the Xoom a lot to but held off once I heard about the Galaxy because for whatever reason I thought a Samsung tablet had to be better than a Motorola one. I never gave the iPad much attention because it's basically a big iPhone and I have had an iPhone for the last 2 years and the prospect of spending 400-500 for an iPhone with a larger screen didn't do anything for me. The Tab 10.1 was ok but still very 'laggey' and choppy and was a little disappointing to be honest. Plus I HATED Touchwiz, so like everyone else on the XDA forum I rooted an installed a custom Rom (AOSP Kang I think they were around Milestone 3 when I did it). It was much better but not perfect, smoother but still not 'buttery' and apps like the web browser and MX Player were prone to crash once in awhile. Anyway long story short when I heard about the Nexus 7 it sounded perfect to me so I preordered mine day 1, listed the Tab 10.1 on eBay and made the switch.
How I ended up with an iPad 2. Basically my office gave them to all the outside sales reps so we could do product demonstrations in front of customers at their location. They made a bunch of Keynote presentations and video and honestly the whole package they put together was pretty nice. Anyway I've had it for at least the last 3 months.
TLR - I don't consider myself in either camp, I've owned both Google and Apple products. Sophi's choice if I had to pick a side - I would probably go Andriod.
Anyway here we go.
The OS - While I wish the Nexus 7 had the tablet UI and I know I can get it if I root it, I haven't. I like the 4.1 over IOS way better. Even though it's just a much improved version on Honeycomb I think its way better for a tablet then IOS, which to this day is still just an iPhone with a larger screen. There's something about it that just feels more like a handheld computer then IOS. Maybe its the customization or all the tweaks to the home screen but hands down this is the best thing Andriod has going for it.
Smoothness - Here is where Andriod really needs to catch up, and 4.1 is a huge step forward but still can't touch the iPad (2). Apples really has this locked down, while the Nexus 7 is the most responsive Android device I've played with it still can't come close to matching the iPad/iPhone. I rarely if ever notice any slow down or come across any hiccups/lag on any of my iOS devices. I know iOS doesn't have widgets or true multitasking but it makes for a much smoother user experience. I don't know why that's a bad thing either, I don't know what you have to have running in the background besides music or downloads but you can do both of those things on the iPad and it still works flawlessly.
Form Factor - This is kind of a draw, I like them both. Actually if I wanted to go bigger I liked the Tab's 10.1 display on the Galaxy.
Build Quality - That would have to go to Apple but I know it's a $200 budget tablet VS $400 premium tablet. Although I would take the rubberized material on the back of the Nexus 7 over the silver metal on the back of the iPad, just makes it feel more rugged/durable In my opion.
Apps - Overall quality of Apps has to go to Apple, plus I like the fact they had a separate section for tablet apps. Although the fact that I can get emulators like FPse and play Final Fantasy 9 on my Nexus 7 might even it all out in the end. I guess this is a pretty common complaint among people coming from iOS about Google Play. If Google just did things like add more categories and promote the top apps in those categories better I think a lot of those complaints would go away. Not to mention I still dont get why something that $2.99 on the Apple app store is $5.99 on Google Play. I can't site anything specific I just feel like things on Google Play are more expensive, not all the time but some of the time.
Battery - I don't know about while being used since I still use my Nexus 7 way more than the iPad. But on standby with Wifi turned on the iPad 2 lasts way longer then my Nexus 7 when they're both left off the charger over night. There's hardly a dent in iPad battery but the Nexus 7 will take a serious hit.
Gaming - Gotta give this to the Nexus 7, or maybe just the 7" form factor, its great for playing games. Fits great in your hands and works well with virtual buttons. Plus almost any noteworthy game on iOS is on Android plus you have tons of awesome emulators.
That's all I got, thanks for reading and let me know if you agree or disagree. But please don't turn this into a thread with a 100 "Stop sucking Apples ****" like comments.
PS - I have been noticing that my Nexus 7 isn't registering every touch and it seems to happen sporadically. The issue is fixed when I lock then unlock the screen. Anyone have a more permanent fix or is it a known hardware/software problem.
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Interesting. I agree with you on most points. I'm a big Apple fan (and owned an iPad 2 for a few months) but I can recognize this Nexus 7 (which I own too) is a great device !
I think what I miss most is high quality apps. Android has some good apps but IMO, most of them doesn't look as good and work as well as their iOS equivalents. But with the popularity of the Nexus 7, I think this might get better over time.
also have the ipad and the nexus 7, i'm banking on the nexus 7 getting more support, when that happens, it will be a more useful device even more
Maybe I'm just crazy, or partially biased since Apple's recent actions have me exceptionally disappointed in them, but I have an iPad right here... and I really can't put into words how disinterested I am in that device anymore. My 2c.
Was about to write a similar post. I had the iPhone 3gs and original iPad for a bit, but for the last 2 years have been strictly Android. For phones I've had HTC Evo, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note and Galaxy S3. For tablets I've had the Xoom, the original Galaxy Tab 7, the Galaxy 10, and now the Nexus.
Last week I had to buy an iPad 3 to demo my company's iPad app, and was planning on returning it after 30 days. I remembered thinking the Nexus 7 was so damn smooth, but after playing with the iPad it's definitely got some work to do. Also, I absolutely love the reddit app on iPad (AlienBlue).
That all being said, I still hate most of iOS's locked down features and how it's just a big iPhone, but I can't deny it's polish. So much so that I might be interested in a 7 inch version of iPad when it comes out.
Thank you for the fair comparisons. Its often difficult for me to believe reviews are unbiased. In this case, I can relate since I own a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and a Nexus 7. And maybe, just maybe I will check out the mini iPad to see for myself. Up to this point I have had no interest in apple products, because of what I felt like unnecessary restrictions. But if they do come out with a mini version, and a price tag to match it, I think I am finally convinced to give it a try.
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Was about to write a similar post. I had the iPhone 3gs and original iPad for a bit, but for the last 2 years have been strictly Android. For phones I've had HTC Evo, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note and Galaxy S3. For tablets I've had the Xoom, the original Galaxy Tab 7, the Galaxy 10, and now the Nexus.
Last week I had to buy an iPad 3 to demo my company's iPad app, and was planning on returning it after 30 days. I remembered thinking the Nexus 7 was so damn smooth, but after playing with the iPad it's definitely got some work to do. Also, I absolutely love the reddit app on iPad (AlienBlue).
That all being said, I still hate most of iOS's locked down features and how it's just a big iPhone, but I can't deny it's polish. So much so that I might be interested in a 7 inch version of iPad when it comes out.
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Just wanted to point this out. Same can be said about any Android tablet. Aren't Android tablet's just "one big Android phone?" Think about that since they (both ipad/iphone) and Android (phone/tablet) share mobile OS's.
In ics they have the tablet UI.
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Just wanted to point this out. Same can be said about any Android tablet. Aren't Android tablet's just "one big Android phone?" Think about that since they (both ipad/iphone) and Android (phone/tablet) share mobile OS's.
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Ya I agree. Now the the Android tablet UI and mobile are very similar. Android still tweaks it a little bit for example notifications being on the bottom instead of the top the menu keys being off to the side as opposed to the middle, and the lack of a 'dock' or whatever its called the phones have that the tablet does not. iOS is exactly the same across the phone and tablet besides some apps taking advantage of the larger screen, which the same could be said for Android
I was talking more the jump from Ginger bread to Honeycomb, now there very very similar.
I have pretty much the same opinions, except that it is the iOS store that seems more expensive to me. And I can almost always find an app with a function I need for free on Google play while the iOS store has 1 or 2 good paid apps, and several terrible free ones (ex. the mkv player I was looking for a week ago)
I should also mention that I have the 3rd gen iPad, and it definitely beats 7 on the looks and build quality. However, I often just get extremely frustrated with the OS, I don't know if "locked down" is quite the word to describe it. Really what would make the happiest person alive is putting Android on the iPad hardware (or shell anyway).
To sum up: 3rd iPad looks delicious, and it a joy to use with things Apple wants you to use, but lacks a lot of functionality. The Nexus, ironically, "just works."
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PS - I have been noticing that my Nexus 7 isn't registering every touch and it seems to happen sporadically. The issue is fixed when I lock then unlock the screen. Anyone have a more permanent fix or is it a known hardware/software problem.
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This is my only problem with the device so far. Seems more like a software issue due to the nature of the temporary fix
Like yourself i too have had the opportunity to own both devices. I found the 10" form to be way to big for me. It even caused me to sell my iPad.
However, the 7" size on the nexus is perfect and honestly expect apple to come out with a tablet this size because imo it really is perfect.
Sounds like you have something eating your battery while it's in sleep mode. I lose about 2-4% overnight.
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How is having device specific app a good thing? It's actually pretty stupid to have a specific iPhone app, a specific iPad app, a specific iNote with digitizer pen app if they ever come out with one, etc. when it's simpler and more efficient to have one app cover all devices.
As for the claim with touch input not registering, have you enabled the built-in show touch input under developer options? More than likely it is registering the touch input but the app is busy such as is the case with Chrome when it's downloading and rendering a long web page.
As far as UI responsiveness iOS doesn't really do much other than display a static grid of icons. I can take an ancient 386 33MHz PC and it'll display and navigate the Window 3.1 desktop with ease. They both do very little to nothing with the UI.
Yeah, as far as the battery goes... I'm at 72% on my Nexus 7, after 55hrs, no charging involved. lol. Its been used a little, not too much, but it's keeping its juice for me.
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Yeah, as far as the battery goes... I'm at 72% on my Nexus 7, after 55hrs, no charging involved. lol. Its been used a little, not too much, but it's keeping its juice for me.
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Stock rom? Is wifi/everything turned off?
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Stock rom? Is wifi/everything turned off?
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If your not using the device, WiFi and Bluetooth go to sleep. So in effect the device goes into "airplane" mode. If I go the day without using mine, it drains at about 8-10% a day as well.
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How is having device specific app a good thing? It's actually pretty stupid to have a specific iPhone app, a specific iPad app, a specific iNote with digitizer pen app if they ever come out with one, etc. when it's simpler and more efficient to have one app cover all devices.
As for the claim with touch input not registering, have you enabled the built-in show touch input under developer options? More than likely it is registering the touch input but the app is busy such as is the case with Chrome when it's downloading and rendering a long web page.
As far as UI responsiveness iOS doesn't really do much other than display a static grid of icons. I can take an ancient 386 33MHz PC and it'll display and navigate the Window 3.1 desktop with ease. They both do very little to nothing with the UI.
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I love when I see other people that "get it" when it comes to Android app development vs. iOS app development. I'm constantly trying to explain to iFans and even some Android fans that in android you don't need multiple apps to cover phones, tablets, and now even TVs. But with iOS you do.
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If your not using the device, WiFi and Bluetooth go to sleep. So in effect the device goes into "airplane" mode. If I go the day without using mine, it drains at about 8-10% a day as well.
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I love when I see other people that "get it" when it comes to Android app development vs. iOS app development. I'm constantly trying to explain to iFans and even some Android fans that in android you don't need multiple apps to cover phones, tablets, and now even TVs. But with iOS you do.
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Sorry but I disagree... For example, take Twitter on Nexus 7 vs iPad.. Please don't tell me it's better on Android:
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Sorry but I disagree... For example, take Twitter on Nexus 7 vs iPad.. Please don't tell me it's better on Android:
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You disagree because you (apparently) don't understand what I or the person I was responding to are actually saying... We are talking about app development, not comparing one Android app to one iOS app. What we are talking about is on a far larger scope. If devs don't restrict themselves to SDKs older than 2.3 apps can be written to display and work perfectly on multiple screen sizes without needing to be "stretched out" but instead have their own discrete set of UI elements/layouts, etc based on the screen size. In other words, a new version of Twitter than basically forgoes old versions of Android could be made to work like the "phone" version you see on the N7 AND work like the "tablet" version you see on the iPad, but in the same apk. This is probably where Android's infamous "fragmentation" issue really lies. Supporting legacy versions of Android. In the case of your Twitter app, it supports all the way back to 1.5 right? So of course it will be little more than a stretched out small screen app.
Does that make more sense?
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You disagree because you (apparently) don't understand what I or the person I was responding to are actually saying... We are talking about app development, not comparing one Android app to one iOS app. What we are talking about is on a far larger scope. If devs don't restrict themselves to SDKs older than 2.3 apps can be written to display and work perfectly on multiple screen sizes without needing to be "stretched out" but instead have their own discrete set of UI elements/layouts, etc based on the screen size. In other words, a new version of Twitter than basically forgoes old versions of Android could be made to work like the "phone" version you see on the N7 AND work like the "tablet" version you see on the iPad, but in the same apk. This is probably where Android's infamous "fragmentation" issue really lies. Supporting legacy versions of Android. In the case of your Twitter app, it supports all the way back to 1.5 right? So of course it will be little more than a stretched out small screen app.
Does that make more sense?
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Yep! Thanks.
Greater review! Agree with most of the stuff u written.
Hello everyone. This is a quick writeup/review on the LG Keyboard. I'm typing this up from the keyboard, in fact!
Pros:
1) First off, let me say that the build quality is excellent! The keyboard looks and feels like its made from some expensive and premium plastic. It has sort of a metallic look to it.
2) They keyboard is small however the keys are big and spacious enough.You can carry this easily in a bag, since it has a flat profile and a keyboard case to go with it. The keyboard case also doubles as a stand for your tablet fr those of you going commando and not wanting to put a case on it.
3) As for typing: The keys are chiclet raised style keys. They are spaced apart and big enough to type on comfortably.
4) There is absolutely no lag whatsoever between typing the character and it appearing on the screen. Sometimes, however, there are missed keys, as in you'll have to hit a letter twice before it appears. This occurs very rarely and also depends on how much of a "wirelessly" busy area you are in.
5) When using this keyboard, it behaves exactly like a desktop keyboard. As in, when you're type on a form with multiple fields, and you press tab or shift+tab, you move from one field to the next. Hitting spacebar on a radio button or a check mark box allows you to check that area off. Alt+Tabbing is also programmed in.You can hit Ctrl+T to open a new tab. There are plenty more, but these are the few that I've noticed that I thought I should mention.
I don't know if thats the result of programming on the keyboard or the OS that does this, but its still awesome either way.
6) Full volume control as well as the ability to pause, play, skip and go back on playlists.
Cons
1) The keyboard has a number of Fn function keys, each of which calls up a specific app. There is one for email, web browser, calendar, and music. As for email, I'm using the AOSP email app, and when pressing that button, nothing happens. This might be different with other people who are using other types of email apps.
2) The web browser isn't called either
Others: This might be good or bad depending on the person
1) As for calendar, only the stock calendar is launched
2) I've set my default music playing app to Player Pro, however when pressing this, it only brings up the music app installed from google. However, to be fair, I must say that after you have a playlist going, regardless of which music player your using, you can still control the playlist (pause, play, skip, go to previous song, etc)
3) I've been typing on this with wireless on and music playing. In the past 30 minutes, battery has gone down by about 7%.
Conclusion:
I should mention that this keyboard was sold for Android 3.0+, however it was intended for 3.0. As such, it isn't 100% compatible with 4.1.1 (I'd say its 95% ). Hopefully someone can figure out a way on mapping the some of the keys that weren't working. Regardless, the doesn't stop this from being a good keyboard and an excellent buy if you're someone who needs a physical keyboard and types a lot.
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WARNING: I was using a heavy DSLR camera one handed while recording this video...so as a result, there's more shaking and moving of the camera than I would have hoped so you may get a headache or some motion sickness .
Regardless, the video is still good enough to showcase the virtues of this keyboard!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-plXnQA-KlE&feature=youtu.be
Further comments:
Please let me know if you have any questions or anything specific. I did my best in making this review and presenting pictures, so if you think there's something still missing, just post here.
Nice writeup. Been lookin for a reason to get this. My HP touchpad Bluetooth keyboard just doesn't cut it working on android.
A little shocking about your battery drop like that in only 30 minutes.. any improvement or change with this, now that you are using it more?
Been eyeing up the refurbished ones on eBay for $33.00.
Can you post more pics with the cover on it? Next to the 7 ?
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Really interested in this keyboard, if only the price weren't so high. Does the stand work while you have your case on?
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theomni said:
I should mention that this keyboard was sold for Android 3.0+, however it was intended for 3.0. As such, it isn't 100% compatible with 4.1.1 (I'd say its 95% ). Hopefully someone can figure out a way on mapping the some of the keys that weren't working. Regardless, the doesn't stop this from being a good keyboard and an excellent buy if you're someone who needs a physical keyboard and types a lot.
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Perhaps you should take a look at this? http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159538
Ah, thank you!
But in order for that method to work, you need to be rooted and install a few APKs. I was hoping to do this without cluttering my apps drawer.
Edit: New pictures have been added to the original post. As of right now, I'm uploading a video onto youtube on the keyboard and typing. However, I MUST warn you all: I tried looking back at my camera work and I realized there's quite a bit of movement. I kinda got motion sick and have a headache (lol) so this is a fair warning to you. Just skip around throughout the video.
Video and more pictures added!
i have the chance to get the ipad variant of this quite cheaply (can't find the android version in the uk anyway)
does anyone know if the ipad version would work with android?
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i have the chance to get the ipad variant of this quite cheaply (can't find the android version in the uk anyway)
does anyone know if the ipad version would work with android?
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It works, my wife has one. I had some weirdness the first time I connected it, the shift key kept "sticking" but after that it was okay. Control, Alt works.. Some of the media stuff works, including launching some stock apps.. Overall it was okay once it started working right, not sure if it'll happen randomly or just that "first time".
Android will have more Android-specific functions, like Home, Back, Recents, etc... but you can mostly get by on the keyboard, especially if you don't mind poking the screen now and then.
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Nice writeup. Been lookin for a reason to get this. My HP touchpad Bluetooth keyboard just doesn't cut it working on android.
A little shocking about your battery drop like that in only 30 minutes.. any improvement or change with this, now that you are using it more?
Been eyeing up the refurbished ones on eBay for $33.00.
Can you post more pics with the cover on it? Next to the 7 ?
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I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)
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I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)
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Sure. I'll do it tomorrow night.
However, I can tell you that if you use this like a laptop, you can easily read and see the text.
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I've been eyeing the same thing, except on amazon. lol
OP: Can you open a note taking app and take a picture of the setup from normal typing distance?
I want to get this keyboard so I can take some notes in class, but my main concern was that I wouldn't be able to see the text or I would have to magnify so much that barely any text fits on the screen at a time.
(Yea, Transformer is better for this, but this is only one of many things I want to do. And I feel the N7 is better for.. everything else. lol)
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Sorry, I just realized what you were saying.
As far as normal typing distance is concerned, why don't you put your tablet at various distances and see if you can read it. I'd imagine this would be a personal thing that is different from person to person.
I just got mine in the mail. Perfect plug and play functionality! The browser shortcut button DOES work with the AOSP browser! For some reason the email shortcut isnt linking to either my gmail or to my email cliemt - may try to manually map this later. Otherwise the keyboard is perfectly responsive, portable size while maintaining the full sized keyboard feel. I love it Highly recomend it to anyone looking for a portable bluetooth keyboard for their N7!
Hi there. I'm new here and this is my first post.
This keyboard is surprisingly good. I originally wanted a keyboard folio but they are too small. I gave the Logitech one a chance and I'm very happy with the responsiveness and the overall feel. I touch type so I need the keys to feel a certain way to type properly and this keyboard works very well.
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Found it on Amazon for $40! Might take a chance at it as the cheapest I've seen it was $50.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=B0054L8N7M&linkCode=as2&tag=wwwgadgetgblo-20
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I have the same keyboard I absolutely love it! Give it a 9/10 for pretty much the exact reasons in the OP. I got mine on ebay as a factory refurbished for $30 shipped and it works perfectly! Battery last a long time too on a few AAAs I would definitely recommend this to anyone who likes to have a physical keyboard!
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Found this on clearance at Target for 42$ Love it.
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Logitech Tablet Keyboards review for android and for Ipad tested with PC
Hi guys,
I bought both the ipad version and android version of the keyboard and did some comparison using IPAD3, NEXUS 7, and Windows 7 PC.
Please have a look at it and let me know if you have any questions
I cant seem to post video because I am new so please copy and paste
"/watch?v=7F_VhaE3xrQ&list=UUvhoR5J6mXRNCLDfEmYsDjA&index=1&feature=plcp" after typing in youtube.com
or
search for "logitech tablet keyboard for android and ipad function" and look for TH0RFan
Its a bit long-winded but I did specify on comment which device is tested so you can fast foward to particular sections.
I wish I had better video capturing equipment but for the time being my SD1300 will have to do.
Cheers,
This keyboard gave me trouble to the point I gave up on it and sold it. It would timeout quickly, fail to pair about 30% of the time, and ddđooooooooooo tttttthhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiissss nnoooowww annnnnnnnddddd tthheennnnnnnnnnn.
Several calls to Logitech later and I decided to just get rid of it.
My brother got this for his Tab 10.1 and I tried it out on my Nexus. It works great. Perfect sized keys, feels good when typing. I even played GTA III with it. He told me battery life is awesome on it. He has to recharge once every 3 months.
My first Android phone was the Galaxy Nexus, so I've already learned to deal with the horrible h/w, but had I switched from an iPhone to a Nexus 4, I would be VERY disappointed. The screen is a complete joke. My iPod Touch 5g completely obliterates it in every way imaginable. The phone is definitely fast though, and I love the 2gb of RAM (I literally have yet to witness a suspended app in the background close and have to reload when I go back to it...amazing!).
Overall, it isn't a bad phone. It's just not a great phone. What really lets it down is the build quality, just like every other Android. Also, let's be honest, the UI is incredibly dated in the core OS (even compared to apps like G+ or YouTube). The notification shade is incredibly ugly compared to the one in iOS. Certain perpetual quirks (some reported to Google as early as 2009 and with plenty of posts on Google's bug reporting site) also hinder the OS overall. For example, who the hell decided that notifications should still play through the phone when headphones are plugged in? What about that damn annoying "too many text messages" error? Speaking of the messaging app, the back button is supposed to go back to the last app used if you accessed it from notification tray. The only app I've found that specifically ignores this rule and always goes back to the home screen is the messaging app. WTF? I know I'll probably get flamed for saying all of this, but as cliche as it sounds, it's the little things that matter.
Many people will resort to fanboyism and childish "that's not a big deal" or "go buy an iPhone" retorts. However, I truly believe that these relatively minor issues are holding Android back considerably. If they were to get fixed (all the issues I've listed could easily be fixed in a minor point update), Android would truly be excellent.
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...but had I switched from an iPhone to a Nexus 4, I would be VERY disappointed.
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I've come from an iPhone, an iPhone before that, and an iPhone before that. I'm loving my Nexus
You're going to get flamed because of two reasons. What you said about the N4's screen and the notification bar. Because to most of us, you're completely wrong.
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PMSL, you still here...
no fanboys yet your a known apple one!
As for all the things holding android back, I don't think they are worried with about 70% global share with iOS less than 20.
Apple are dying, they release the same phone every year and with swipe to unlock, multi touch and rubber banding patents already ruled as invalid - they are gonna struggle to even try and sue people.
Don't like the phone, return it.
Don't like stock android, why buy a phone with it?
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"I'm going to DESTROY AND **** ON EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ENJOY AND LOVE, but DONT HATE OR YOU'RE A FANBOY"
Your opinion means nothing to me and is totally objectively unfounded.
Listen to yourself. Minor issues are holding it back considerably? Really? The message error warrants buying an iPhone? You're just nitpicking and I believe not many people here will share your delusions. Jelly bean is a solid platform.
Also how is build quality bad compared to the iPhone 5? Both feel like fragile premium devices.
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What you said about the N4's screen and the notification bar. Because to most of us, you're completely wrong.
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I take it you've never placed an iPhone 5 and an N4 side by side. The iPod Touch has the same screen as the iPhone 5, and it is FAR suprerior. Brightness, saturation, clarity, viewing angles, gamma, and even touch response. Before I got the iPod, I was actually pretty impressed with the N4 screen because I compared it to my old Gnex (which had a far worse screen than the N4), but compared to the screen Apple uses, the N4 looks downright ugly. The brightness is a complete joke. The one advantage that I thought he N4 would have (based on reviews) was the black levels, and those turned out to be the exact same. I literally cannot tell the difference (both extremely good for LCDs).
Let's keep this discussion nice and friendly.
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PMSL
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Okay.
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Thanks. It's hard to point out any flaws these days with so many fanboys on this forum though.
"the UI is incredibly dated in the core OS (even compared to apps like G+ or YouTube). The notification shade is incredibly ugly compared to the one in iOS."
Seriously? Talk about outdated OS, iOS has barely changed since its first release, only adding basic features such as wallpapers, compass, turn by turn navigation etc which Android has had for quite some time
Enjoy your maps bud.
I thought he was describing ios6. No fanboys you say? Is that so you can be the only one in the thread!
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"the UI is incredibly dated in the core OS (even compared to apps like G+ or YouTube). The notification shade is incredibly ugly compared to the one in iOS."
Seriously? Talk about outdated OS, iOS has barely changed since its first release, only adding basic features such as wallpapers, compass, turn by turn navigation etc which Android has had for quite some time
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Enjoy your maps bud.
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Did I mention maps anywhere in my OP? Android has a ton of advantages over iOS. I'm simply saying that if Google were to fix a few seemingly perpetual faults with Android, it would be a truly great OS.
Isn't making an "Android is stupid. iPhone 4eva" post on XDA kind of dumb? How could you expect to meet with anything but hostility and, in my case, pity?
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Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
He's a known apple fanboy - look through his posts.
Bash this troll.
Everyone is a fanboy to him, as hes pure apple posting and *****ing on an android forum.
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Isn't making an "Android is stupid. iPhone 4eva" post on XDA kind of dumb?
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Ya, that would be kinda dumb.
Go back and reread my OP. Don't post until you've read it and understand it clearly. Ok? Thanks.
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He's a known apple fanboy - look through his posts.
Bash this troll.
Everyone is a fanboy to him, as hes pure apple posting and *****ing on an android forum.
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Actually, you're a known Google fanboy. You've defended every single mistake Google has made with the Nexus launch and with the device itself. You went your as far as being a jerk to people who hadn't received their device yet in the shipping thread. Troll elsewhere. Do you have nothing better to do that to post in this thread?
Ok. Thread closed. We don't need yet another Google vs. Apple war on XDA.
Hi everyone. I have been a long term reader of XDA, and finally I think I have something to contribute.
I have been a long term modder, constantly flashing new ROMS on my phone. I think I went through about 20 ROMs on my last phone the HTC One S.
But now I am hoping to stay pretty much stock as much as possible. Like a lot of you I can't wait to give Xposed framework a crack, but till then what apps get you through the day, without deciding to whack on TWRP and begin flashing?
For me here is several apps that just takes my stock N5 to the next level without needing to mod. Though some of them work best with root.
DynamicNotification Play store link
Jealous of Moto X users with their funky Active Notifications? this app is the next best thing. Take the time to tweak the settings and you might find this ticks the box. Active Notfiy is ano alternative. But I have not tested it.
Gravity Screen On/Off Play store link
This app is amazing. If you have you phone flat on the desk at work, just pick it up and it swtiches on. Imagine if your phone is trickle charging on a Qi charger, you pick it up and use it then put it down and it times out. I have the 'false turn-on protection in hand & car' checked and this means I have the best of both worlds. I can hit power and switch the screen off till I hit the power again. or not use the power button and allow gravity on off to take care of things. Awesome app.
Dashclock play store link
Probably the best app to come to take advantage of the lockcreen widgets in 4.2. Widgets on 4.4 is not enabled by default, but can be added in settings > security > Enable widgets. The good thing about the widgets on the lockscreen in 4.4 is they got it right. No stupid 'hints' every time you switch on the screen and you can easily remove the default clock on the lockscreen, and add Dashclock as your default lockscreen widget. Awesome.
START!? Play store link
Last but not least. When sticking with the GEL launcher I have found it harder to get to an app I want. It is great to be able to use the persistent Google search bar (Google now) to search using the first few letters of an app to pull it up quickly and launch it. But sometimes I dont remember the name of an app, I just know what I want. So Categories are good. I think the Aviate launcher show a lot of us that. Start!? gives you a neat overlay menu a bit like Action Launcher in which you can have any number of manually managed groups/folders of apps. I paired it with a gesture using GMD gestures so I can launch and use START!? anywhere anytime on my phone. Great app.
Stay stock everyone. Hang in there. Any other suggestions of apps that can help staying stock but still having it all, post below. cheers.
***EDIT - to include recommendations in thread by other members ***
ES File Explorer Play store link - bblzd recommended this also here
The first two apps (DynamicNotification & Gravity Screen) are both battery killers on an already average battery life. I'm still debating on going back to a Moto X, traded the first one off to get a N5... and some what regretting it. Here's the way I look at it if you have more then one app installed to mimic a native operation on another phone, then get the other phone. But I absolutely love not having to hit the power button on a phone to wake it up.
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ES File Explorer for wireless file transfers and device storage management.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop
magicriggs said:
The first two apps (DynamicNotification & Gravity Screen) are both battery killers on an already average battery life. I'm still debating on going back to a Moto X, traded the first one off to get a N5... and some what regretting it. Here's the way I look at it if you have more then one app installed to mimic a native operation on another phone, then get the other phone. But I absolutely love not having to hit the power button on a phone to wake it up.
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I have the dynamic notification app and it doesn't take as much battery for me, maybe 10% or so. 2hr screen time and 15h 27m on battery. I check twitter and use hangouts/fb messenger alot and I was listening to music for about 3-4 hours straight.
+1 for Dash Clock.
Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
Wow Gravity Screen is awesome!
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Elisha said:
Wow Gravity Screen is awesome!
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i used to do that kind of thing with tasker. but it's a pain to set it up.. on samsung phones the speaker is on the back, so i had a tasker program to switch to speakerphone if i laid the phone face down during a call. and used the camera flash led as a really obnoxiously bright notification light.
Stay stock on developer phone?
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I definitely wanted a Moto X until the N5 came around, as a result I do want to emulate a couple features as I can from the Moto X.
DynamicNotifications is kinda buggy for me but GravityScreen works really well. What I need next is full speech navigation for the N5.
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Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
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I had a One S as well. Its amoled screen was much better than the crappy screen on my new Nexus 5. I really miss the deep blacks. Bothers me immensely.
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davwman said:
Problem is, you came from a one s. That phone was garbage and no matter what ROM you flashed, the phone was still garbage. I had it and am not biased towards the nexus line in any way. Its a good thing you now own a nexus. The ROM scene is much larger as well as the nexus kernel scene, plus this thing is far from garbage. As far as staying stock, that's your choice, but, I can guarantee you that you will find a ROM dev if you decide to flash and most likely stick with that dev and his/her ROM series. Main reason, the nexus 5 is not garbage nor was the nexus 4. I'm not going to go into battery life, or any other spec/aspect of the nexus 5, but trust me its the best nexus device to date, and the ROMs will only improve upon that statement.
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I also had a HTC One S, S4 version, and I disagree with you totally. For me, it performed even better than HTC One X which was suposed to be flagship. The colors were awesome, only thing I don't miss is the Pentile matrix where you can see pixels even in fullHD devices as SGS4. Camera was totally awesome, when I moved to SGS3 I missed it, but even more when I moved to N4 which has crappy camera. N5 camera has way to go in order to match your "garbage" camera. Build construction was awesome, I had not any kind of scratches but I know people had. For a device released nearly 2 years ago, HOS was for me best mobile you could buy.
I'm very happy with my n5 (in HOS I tried to get AOSP and, even being good, was not that good), but anyway still think of my HOS (now my mom has it) as a very durable and capable phone.
cannondale0815 said:
I had a One S as well. Its amoled screen was much better than the crappy screen on my new Nexus 5. I really miss the deep blacks. Bothers me immensely.
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You're just used to amoled. I understand. I was once too. Give it a little time and maybe you'll "see the light" and the way a smartphone screen should look.
If you look at the quality reviews around the internet on the N5, its screen is flat out awesome.
Although it's up to you in the end. If it doesn't look good to your eyes and you're unhappy with it you could always return it.
Great thread. Thanks. Didn't know about Dynamic Notifications. Using them now, hopefully it doest kill the battery. I have been getting great battery so far on my N5.
One S
Have to put in a good word for the One S. Mine was rooted with AOKP 4.1.1 ROM and did everything I wanted--except for LTE. So I got an N5. sure the N5 is faster but the One S was a more convenient size and seemed more robustly bult. And KitKat on the N5 has a lot of--let's admit it--Google bloatware that has to be stripped off. Google is actually becoming more like Apple (do it my way!) and the carriers (Take this crapware or else!)
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You're just used to amoled. I understand. I was once too. Give it a little time and maybe you'll "see the light" and the way a smartphone screen should look.
If you look at the quality reviews around the internet on the N5, its screen is flat out awesome.
Although it's up to you in the end. If it doesn't look good to your eyes and you're unhappy with it you could always return it.
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Well, I like dark backgrounds. And it just looks cheap on the N5. Reminds me of an old rear projection TV where blacks weren't really blacks.
This is my set up, and believe me, it looked a lot better on my HOS. But I suppose I digress.
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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Well, I like dark backgrounds. And it just looks cheap on the N5. Reminds me of an old rear projection TV where blacks weren't really blacks.
This is my set up, and believe me, it looked a lot better on my HOS. But I suppose I digress.
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Totally understand. Looks nice
Does DynamicNotifications conflict with Screen Gravity? Seems like they have some overlapping features.
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ES File Explorer for wireless file transfers and device storage management
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+1 on ES File Explorer
glaudrem said:
I also had a HTC One S, S4 version, and I disagree with you totally. For me, it performed even better than HTC One X which was suposed to be flagship. The colors were awesome, only thing I don't miss is the Pentile matrix where you can see pixels even in fullHD devices as SGS4. Camera was totally awesome, when I moved to SGS3 I missed it, but even more when I moved to N4 which has crappy camera. N5 camera has way to go in order to match your "garbage" camera. Build construction was awesome, I had not any kind of scratches but I know people had. For a device released nearly 2 years ago, HOS was for me best mobile you could buy.
I'm very happy with my n5 (in HOS I tried to get AOSP and, even being good, was not that good), but anyway still think of my HOS (now my mom has it) as a very durable and capable phone.
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So the one s screen looked better? :sly: whatever you say. And the one s was crap, With crap Sense bloat, crap reception, constant loss of cell service, dropped calls, non existent data service. Amoled is crap, and provides nothing but over exaggerated color. I had the one s, in fact 2 to be exact, and they both had the exact same issues. The one s was a low to mid end phone. Never mind htc's mind numbing s on annoyance, and HTC dev unlock. :banghead: the last HTC device I will ever buy.