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As stated in the (www .blogtalkradio .com/motodev) Q&A session yesterday with Motorola about the Droid X, in answer to the question asked at the 29:00 mark,
"The only time that we are enabling the HDMI driver on the device is when you are in the gallery mode. [...] The HDMI driver is not active any time outside the gallery," where the "gallery mode" is their included photo/video viewer.
I'm wondering how true that is...
(www .pcmag .com/article2/0,2817,2365630,00.asp ) PCMag's review stated that the youtube player and blockbuster player were not able to use the hdmi out at all.
As seen in (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703111 ) this thread the evo 4g, which also has hdmi out, is capable of allowing any app that uses VideoView to utilize that output, but that's supported by the phone maker.
Will that usability be true on the droid x?
Could we figure out a way to bypass any limitations Motorola includes, and maybe even send (an upscaled version of) the main screen through the hdmi (not just video but anything we could put on the phone's screen)?
I was just at a motorola event and we were able to run nfl mobile through the hdmi.
Yes the tv was in an ice sculpture and yes it was connected to a droid x via the hdmi cable
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That's great news, thanks for letting us know!
The more apps with handshakes to the hdmi-out we have, the better for us to get it working completely openly
The whole media-center-and-phone-in-my-pocket is just a great idea imho...
With the hdmi out we could:
put any videos and pictures from any source up on your home tv
connect it to the projector at work and give presentations
go with a few bluetooth controllers to your friend's house and play multiplayer (even online) games on their tv with minimal cords to deal with
maybe even video-chat would be possible if you set up the phone with the camera facing out in front of the tv
... ok, that last one sounds like a pretty lame way to get video-chat, but it would save on having to have a computer/monitor/webcam when you wanted to
Of course this is all far into the future stages of development on the phone, but I'd rather create buzz and excitement to build up a developer and user base
Talked to a moto rep, said it might have been a beta device as licensing is what will prevent this thing from being turned on when it hits consumers hands. At least we know it can be done.
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no fun, i'm not much of a C programmer, but if it's just enabling or disabling the driver, I guess it comes down to the security on the phone. If you go into root, I suppose we should be able to start the driver. The only thing I fear is if the driver is signed and only a signed application can access it, then I think we might be SOL
I'm not particularly worried... if we get access to enough apps that use the hdmi driver, we should be able to document enough of the method.
I believe while the hardware can reject unsigned versions of the OS (roms), most apps are self-signed (see developer. android. com/guide/publishing/app-signing.html) so that shouldn't be a problem. We just have to figure out which hoops to jump through (following the programs that use hdmi) to get it to work. They'd have to leave the hoops pretty wide open or else risk the need of updating the thing every time a new app is released that needs to get through.
This is a mixed bag here. The reason why Motorola limited the hdmi driver is likely so they didn't have to put a fps cap on the droid x like htc put on the evo.
This is pure speculation here but I would imagine the way that the evo devs are going to "truly" overcome the fps cap is to mimic the droid x behavior of toggling on and off the hdmi drivers so that the evo can access up to 60 fps.
You guys are on the other end of the boat where by default your fps won't be artificially capped, but you likely won't have full access to the hdmi drivers at first.
I think the sweet spot for both phones is finding a happy medium where we can toggle the hdmi drivers at will.
Any news on this? I would really like to get rockplayer and youtube working through hdmi. In fact, I would like to get the entire OS through HDMI and possibly a bluetooth keyboard and mouse working so I can use it as a little media center pc.
2 way control
I would lime to see this pushed to.the level of controlling the phone through an hdmi touchscreen.
I thought we would be able to see pandora and other apps through the hdmi...This sucks the way it is...also does anyone think the sound is terrible through the hdmi?
There is no point int he HDMi at all if you can only use it for your pictures and your videos from the phone's camera.
They need to make it show what you see on the phone, but on the screen
I remember there was a windows mobiel program that popped up a small window on your desktop that let you see your phone's screen and interact with it on your monitor when connected through usb
anything like this for android?
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There is no point int he HDMi at all if you can only use it for your pictures and your videos from the phone's camera.
They need to make it show what you see on the phone, but on the screen
I remember there was a windows mobiel program that popped up a small window on your desktop that let you see your phone's screen and interact with it on your monitor when connected through usb
anything like this for android?
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NO, the hdmi dock is a half ass design. For the $, it should do everything. MOTO/VZ dropped the ball on this. Hopefully they will open this up with a sw update.
Update: "Real HDMI" in the market
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769990&highlight=control+hdmi
Hi,
I'm pretty new to Android development. So my understanding after reading a couple threads here is that HDMI access on the stock Droid X is limited to the gallery only, is that right? And the point of the "Real HDMI" app is that it will automatically redirect all output to the phone's display through HDMI, right? So no API exists which gives programmatic control over the HDMI port? That's a shame if so.
Do any of the Android devices allow easier HDMI port control or do we need these kinds of work arounds for all of them?
Thank you very much for any information anyone can provide.
Sorry to be a pest, but can anybody answer my questions? Should I consider posting somehwere else?
Thanks again.
commie64 said:
Sorry to be a pest, but can anybody answer my questions? Should I consider posting somehwere else?
Thanks again.
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Maybe try posting in the Real HDMI thread over at DroidXForums.com because username GMAN (who made real hdmi) has a thread there. I'm sure his knowledge of the subject is pretty extensive.
While looking around my phone I came up with a couple of thoughts. First would it be possible to make devices that plugged into the miniusb port on the top of the phone and could it be plug and play? Heck maybe even make the driver if necessary built into flash memory on the new device. It seems like it just takes an kernel update to make something like this possible if it's not already.
The second thing I thought of is if the above isn't possible, why not create an attachable mirror that sits at the right angle to take advantage of the rear camera for video chat. You could project your image onto the mirror and the camera could catch that. The top idea is alot better, the bottom requires alot less knowledge. Either would get us video chat.
Interesting, i like the first idea.
I like the first idea, though for video chat I would rather someone figured out where to pick up the actual modual that goes inside the phone (there's a thread about how they left the mounting brakets in place for the front cam.)
However for other things, like maybe a gamepad+extended battery combo, or an IR blaster to operate my TV
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I like the first idea, though for video chat I would rather someone figured out where to pick up the actual modual that goes inside the phone (there's a thread about how they left the mounting brakets in place for the front cam.)
However for other things, like maybe a gamepad+extended battery combo, or an IR blaster to operate my TV
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This is the thread you were talking about.
From what I understand about micro usb is that there are five wires/confections. The outside connections are ground and power. The two next to the ground are for data (one + and one -) and the last one next to power is a identification connection. If the wireis connected/has power then its a source device (i.e. computer). If its not, then its a peripheral (portable hard drive, out in our case, our phone). Its been a bit since I read up on that, so it might be vice versa.
Last time I tore the phone apart, I didn't look, but it may be a setting that is hard-wired (literally), or its a switch controlled by software. If it's the latter, then its possible, if its hard wired, then its not.
Adding things to the kernel or loading drivers isn't cut and paste. It takes available source code, which isn't always available, for both the phone and the device you want to use (that works with android), as well as understanding of how to make it work.
That last part I am not well versed on. But we have a couple devs trying to get the vibrant opened up. They are few, and the request list keeps getting larger.
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I was just thinking today that it would be great to have a micro-usb device that could house a camera for video chat... I like your mirror idea...I'm prius owner and that's how the dashboard works. The usb is right there...really I think someone should incorporate a device in a mod of the back cover...i don't know anything about code but I could make the case.
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Devices require a driver of some kind so the controller knows how to talk to device. For example, if I wanted to hook up my DSLR and control it, I would need a driver ported over and then the SDK for the camera would have to be ported over. An OS like Windows 7 has literally thousands of drivers built in and many other devices require you to install a driver. The only time "plug and play" actually works is either with the OS has the driver already installed or if the device is designed around a generic driver.
Incredible idea! I'm going to make the second idea. I have my own twist on the concept but it shouldn't be to difficult.
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I like the first idea but I also had a similar idea and I'd like to see the attached camera come with led's and somehow acct as a flash for both cameras. It could be tiny, if the camera app could be figured out to trigger the flash on all galaxy s models, well at least the vibrant and captivate this could sell.
If a third party app was developed it could be added to any android phone in theory. If that third party app was as good as the galaxy s stock camera app then you'd really be in business.
If I was talking to my brother I'd have tried to convince him to help me develope something. Well I hope one of you talented devs has success with this idea. I'd also like to see success with the guy adding the extra camera internally, I'd be interested in performing the mod if the software end is figured out.
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I can take or leave peripheral support, but I'm DYING for USB host mode!
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I can take or leave peripheral support, but I'm DYING for USB host mode!
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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That is exactly what I was trying to say earlier. You put it in better words. Thanks
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almyz125 said:
This is the thread you were talking about.
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Ahhah, I couldn't find it to save my life last night lol! Thanks ^_^
Makes me wonder if you can still take power off of the port and communicate to the device via blue tooth. But I don't think it would come to that.
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Makes me wonder if you can still take power off of the port and communicate to the device via blue tooth. But I don't think it would come to that.
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That's the thing, devices that support USB host generally don't use a mini/micro B port. They have specific ports for that. Of course, the USB controller in there may well be able to be a USB host, but we don't know how to enable that from what I have seen. IF the controller can be put into host mode, loads of options like this become possible. It would require kernel mods, but that's not a huge deal. However, as long as we are in USB client mode, the only things we can connect to the port are chargers and computers, as that's all the phone knows how to deal with.
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Oh, it's host mode built in already. One of the major pluses that I weighed in on when buying the phone.
"Both the S5PC110 (smartphone chipset) and S5PV210 (its netbook alternative) are optimized to ensure long battery life for mobile devices, using a 45-nanometer (nm) Low Power fabrication process and low power architectures. With the 1GHz clock speed and 512KB L2 cache, these processors should also manage to provide performance unknown to the ARM world so far.
The two processors have built-in 3D graphics engine and support 1080p full HD video playback and recording at 30 fps. The final nice features of the new chipset include a wide variety of interfaces and peripherals, including HDMI 1.3and USB 2.0 host interface."
Hate to kinda go off topic with the USB Host mode stuff again, but it seems like since the interface is built into the chip, host mode should be enabled in the kernel.
Yes? No?
Has anyone tried to get an OTG cable in there to see what happens?
Just saying.
I've been curious about this since I saw it done (rather impressively) by sonic7406 (YouTube) on the Nexus One. Since then, I hear it's also been hacked on the Droid. From my research, I'm pretty confident this should be possible with the right drivers installed on the Galaxy S series. I've gathered together an (supposedly) OTG "compatible" cable (the Nokia CA-101 for Nokia 6600 Slide/N900/etc), an extra-beefy powered hub, and female-to-female USB-A adapter. I have yet to dive into the kernel to load any special drivers, try mounting drives, etc. I'm still unsure of the "OTG" cable and may still need to manually ground that fifth pin to kick it off. Though, as far as the cable is concerned, that is the only thing that makes it OTG on one end.
Host Mode Background Info: OTG Wiki
Here's a modoco thread that includes most of the relevant links I've seen.
Ideally, I'd like to find a microUSB to USB-B OTG cable that connects directly from my phone to the powered hub, but I couldn't find any. Let me know if anyone knows where we could find these.
It seems like we could create an entire new category of toys to attach to our devices if the micro USB port could be figured out. To me that's ultra exciting!
Let's go a few steps further, Being able to physically attach a printer or hdmi (Yes, I know about AllShare) to the tv could require a simple adapter that plugs into the micro USB port on the handset. We could also have a nice flash that has brackets that mount to the handset for support to get better pics in low lighting (instead of just saying "oh, I've got night mode", bugger that).
The capability to do this has to be written at the kernel level and then we need hardware manufactures willing to make the products. Therein lies the problem, how do we get that to work?
My neighbor is an electronics engineer and I'm a machinist, my friend is a tool and die maker.
My neighbor has an idea to make a device for surface mount soldering using an inert liquid with a boiling point equal to the soldering temp. This would be a cheap alternative to infrared soldering.
Other than that I might be able to come up with a housing.
I wouldn't want to commit myself untill the software works and we've tested the soldering machine.
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Airtame is a new HDMI dongle that promises to allow you to display anything from your devices...
Details here: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/airtame-wireless-hdmi-for-everyone--2
I was one of the early Chromecast buyers, successfully able to root and now running a number of the utilities found in this forum. But I still want to be able to simply cast anything I see on my pc or android phone to my TV. This new crowd-sourced device promises to do that, and more. Take a look at the link to see all the cool things they've planned. They started out requesting $160k, but have raised nearly $1M. With each successive goal completion, they've added a stretch goal and have achieved nearly every one. I think the key to its success is the ability to display just about any content you want.
Is there a way to do the same with our Chromecasts? I see the only thing holding it back at the moment is content. The devs here have been doing wondrous work bringing in content and more will be made available. Can we make Chromecast open to all content?
Oh, and they won the Engadget award for the "Best Startup of CES 2014"!
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Android screen mirroring seems to be on the way but it will require either Google or an OEM (not third party developer) to implement it, probably because of security concerns (not to mention DRM/copyright concerns).
https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/ch57ZKvqpYb
Meanwhile Koush is continuing to work on his own alternative for other targets.
Meh!
Only supports PC's etc. DOES NOT and by the sound of it WILL NOT support Android other than as a remote.
Miracast already does this and all this seems to do is remove the proprietary Miracast Wireless part of it...
CCast could do this already if someone just made an app for it and got it added to the whitelist.
I'm actually working on getting the Airtame software running on the Chromecast. The software, its library and the protocol will be open source, so don't worry so much about hardware support just yet. Just stick around and see what the community will come up with. Disclosure: I'm working at the same office as the Airtame team.
Right now my problem is getting the Chromecast to a hackable state. The ones I have are all updated past the fixed boot loader, so I need to find a new vector. Last night I tried to solder probes to the I/O pins of the NAND chip itself to dump the flash using an Arduino and its super slow serial connection -- better than nothing at least. I need to find some thinner wire though; the stuff I used was 20-something AWG. Will give it another go next weekend.
Looking forward to it jchillerup
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I need to find some thinner wire though; the stuff I used was 20-something AWG. Will give it another go next weekend.
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Wire-wrapping wire (Kynar, 30+AWG) is your friend, though that stuff will break if you sneeze. Forceps and magnifying glass are also your friend.
And if you haven't already, sign up to be a developer so you can get your Chromecast whitelisted. That's the "proper" way to do mainstream Chromecast development.
MadBob said:
Meh!
Only supports PC's etc. DOES NOT and by the sound of it WILL NOT support Android other than as a remote.
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Did you read the fundraising targets? It hit a million, so there will be android and iOS support.
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Sound awesome
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Looks interesting. But in the faq it states that the ability to stream from an Android or iOS device is technically possible but access to specialized hardware is restricted by the vendors, thereby needing root or jailbreak to work. Which they also say they will not support. That's their words, so it looks like the road map is only for a remote or possibly casting a screen to the mobile device.
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I like the way Airtame is heading but the price is overkill. Chromecast + Avia ($2.99)=$38 is already have and can do what airtame can except the optional ethernet port.
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I like the way Airtame is heading but the price is overkill. Chromecast + Avia ($2.99)=$38 is already have and can do what airtame can except the optional ethernet port.
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Hard to get the price down to Chromecast level when you can't order millions at once, and there is not a big search engine with ad revenue backing the financial losses on a 35$ device....
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Did you read the fundraising targets? It hit a million, so there will be android and iOS support.
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Well they have raised the Funds now the hard part starts...Actually manufacturing them! LOL
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Hard to get the price down to Chromecast level when you can't order millions at once, and there is not a big search engine with ad revenue backing the financial losses on a 35$ device....
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Google probably isn't even making a penny off the CCast sales either....
This device is all about the DIAL protocol whose patents are co-owned by Google and Netflix.
It is meant mostly as a way of expanding the customer base for their content products to those who do not have a Smart TV or other streambox connected to their TVs.
It is far simpler to create a standard method for streaming to remote devices and creating a device to do that than it is to get the 5-10 TV Manufacturers to adopt a protocol standard that has not already been established in the Market.
This device seems to be a hybrid CCast/Miracast. The Main difference is that it doesn't use Player Apps as much as it does Mirroring. WHich is good in cases where Mirroring is desirable but it depends on the streaming device to do most of the work (aka BATTERY KILLER!)
CCast should be able to do everything this device claims to do if only Google would open up the Whitelist or create the apps for Mirroring.
Mirroring makes sense in some situations but not all. And unless this device adds some of the DIAL capability Chromecast has to play content without requiring the initiating device to do most of the work this seems a bit like a Miracast killer but still won't be as useful as the Chromecast is, Knowing what we know it is capable of doing if only Google would let it!
Just to add I would describe the three methods like this...
Miracast - Mirror via Wireless Radio ONLY!
Airtame - MIrror via IP
Chromecast - Mirror via Wired or Wireless (such as the way GoogleCast works), PLUS the ability to play remote content without killing your battery.
All Google really needs to do to beat the other two contenders is to more fully support Mirroring on more Platforms than just the desktop or add the capability to add the CCast as a display device for PC, Tablets and Phone.
If it does that then the others will be forced to act more like Chromecasts to sell.
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All Google really needs to do to beat the other two contenders is to more fully support Mirroring on more Platforms than just the desktop or add the capability to add the CCast as a display device for PC, Tablets and Phone.
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Now, I'm obviously biased but I just want to make one point clear: There is a difference between Airtame and the Chromecast in that one is completely open source and hackable while the other one isn't. Want root? You got it. Moreover, the Airtame protocol can be implemented by whoever wants to move imagery and metadata from one device to another with low latency.
The Airtame team acknowledges the fact that they're not just selling a commodity device; they're selling a tiny computer to people and they're encouraging the community to hack around with it. If we're just looking at differences in current offerings we're completely disregarding a (potential) community around this thing.
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Now, I'm obviously biased but I just want to make one point clear: There is a difference between Airtame and the Chromecast in that one is completely open source and hackable while the other one isn't. Want root? You got it. Moreover, the Airtame protocol can be implemented by whoever wants to move imagery and metadata from one device to another with low latency.
The Airtame team acknowledges the fact that they're not just selling a commodity device; they're selling a tiny computer to people and they're encouraging the community to hack around with it. If we're just looking at differences in current offerings we're completely disregarding a (potential) community around this thing.
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I understand but the fact it can be rooted will not make it play content without requiring a device to stay connected to it.
If they add DIAL support so you can launch a content and then go play a game on the device that launched it they have a shot...
But from what I have seen and heard of from this device, it is merely a Mirroring Dongle that doesn't require some proprietary wireless protocol to do it's Mirroring like Miracast does!
So it will Mirror in a similar way that the CCast does, but not do the other stuff CCast does.
And if Mirroring is all you want it's much better than Miracast!
Not Knocking the product at all just pointing out it is a different beast that CCast and not even trying to do some of what the CCast can do...
This Airtame sounds just like Ouya when they promise the device to be hackable and rooted. Then it happens. Look what happens to the Ouya.
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What's annoying with all these devices is that they require your tablet or phone to use a certain OS number. Is the Airtame any different?
I've been searching for a mirroring device for the Sony Tablet S, and nothing is compatible with the OS version I currently have. The damn thing doesn't even allow micro usb to HDMI cables. Miracast, tronsmart, etc.. "S" stands for SUCK in Sony Tablet S. It has the latest updates too. So there is nothing more I can do other than wait for Sony, and I don't think they'll support this tablet anymore. It has a stupid "throwing" feature for DLNA, but I need to mirror streaming apps and sites.
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What's annoying with all these devices is that they require your tablet or phone to use a certain OS number. Is the Airtame any different?
I've been searching for a mirroring device for the Sony Tablet S, and nothing is compatible with the OS version I currently have. The damn thing doesn't even allow micro usb to HDMI cables. Miracast, tronsmart, etc.. "S" stands for SUCK in Sony Tablet S. It has the latest updates too. So there is nothing more I can do other than wait for Sony, and I don't think they'll support this tablet anymore. It has a stupid "throwing" feature for DLNA, but I need to mirror streaming apps and sites.
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Well it requires certain OS' because it requires a WiFi implementation that is relatively new and not supported by older OS'.
But for the Record I don't believe the Airtame suffers from that problem at all. I believe it works closer to the CCast in that it connects to the Wireless Router and you stream over IP which does not require any specialized WiFi support.
It is not making a direct Radio to Radio connection.
Miracast does.
My biggest desire is straight-up mirroring. Whatever I display on my PC to a tv/projector. I like the idea of CCast having competition. Maybe this will entice Google to open it up a bit more if people have alternatives.
For those that commented the cost was too high, just think about what you're getting: dual core cpu, b/g/n wireless, I/O, ram... and open. pretty sweet for the cost.
But it will not compare to the CCast as G is playing the long game - they'll know anything you're looking at/casting and target you with promotions and use your aggregated data. Now, couple that with what's going to happen with the Nest thermostat/smoke detector. They'll know when you're home, where you live, your daily home/away habits, when you rise, when you sleep... I want options that aren't tied into G. Just wait until they offer a Google 'Fridge that inventories what you purchase and makes a shopping list for you and a Google ODB-II dongle that plugs into your car and maps out your gas mileage, frequent trips, etc and projects it to your Android Phone, while they collect the data.
Yes, they are out to know everything... and it starts at home. Like I said, I want options.
So this still won't support Android? I think on the airtame website the lead mentioned this is because "we need Google or Apple to open up". But couldn't they support an airtime android app to use only rooted, and with CyanogenMod (or other aftermarket ROM)?
Also, plain mirroring is boring (though still useful), I'd prefer an app that lets me stream from my phone to TV a local video file, while letting me still use the phone for other things. I like movies, but get bored and would want to multitask like browse Reddit while watching said movie.
I've been searching the forum without much success, I want to install the Chromecast OS ( or in this case, HubCap) on a general cheap android tablet. Since Chromecast is similar in foundation, is this possible? I would like the tablet I get, like an 8" Chinese generic or anything, which already has wifi and a display, to be the display I can choose to cast to.
My further thoughts is that it makes a portable video frame I can use with my Google Home, but that's for my own further experimentation. I still haven't been able to find if HubCap on Chromecast still allows the Chromecast to be controllable from Google Home, though I would assume so.
Any directions I should look into? I would love it to be as easy as rooting the tablet device and installing a HubCap slip-streamed Chromecast package ( if any were to exist, even ) , but I have a feeling it's not that easy, despite Android seeming to be resilient as to the platform it is being installed on.
Ty
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I've been searching the forum without much success, I want to install the Chromecast OS ( or in this case, HubCap) on a general cheap android tablet. Since Chromecast is similar in foundation, is this possible? I would like the tablet I get, like an 8" Chinese generic or anything, which already has wifi and a display, to be the display I can choose to cast to.
My further thoughts is that it makes a portable video frame I can use with my Google Home, but that's for my own further experimentation. I still haven't been able to find if HubCap on Chromecast still allows the Chromecast to be controllable from Google Home, though I would assume so.
Any directions I should look into? I would love it to be as easy as rooting the tablet device and installing a HubCap slip-streamed Chromecast package ( if any were to exist, even ) , but I have a feeling it's not that easy, despite Android seeming to be resilient as to the platform it is being installed on.
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turn rooted galaxy S6 into chromecast and/or Fire Tv box...help? (please)
werelwolf said:
I've been searching the forum without much success, I want to install the Chromecast OS ( or in this case, HubCap) on a general cheap android tablet. Since Chromecast is similar in foundation, is this possible? I would like the tablet I get, like an 8" Chinese generic or anything, which already has wifi and a display, to be the display I can choose to cast to.
My further thoughts is that it makes a portable video frame I can use with my Google Home, but that's for my own further experimentation. I still haven't been able to find if HubCap on Chromecast still allows the Chromecast to be controllable from Google Home, though I would assume so.
Any directions I should look into? I would love it to be as easy as rooting the tablet device and installing a HubCap slip-streamed Chromecast package ( if any were to exist, even ) , but I have a feeling it's not that easy, despite Android seeming to be resilient as to the platform it is being installed on.
Ty
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I believe I am looking for the same thing! I just recently upgraded to the galaxy s8. My old device is a rooted galaxy s6. I would like to use the galaxy s6 to hook up to my LG HDTV (model is LG 55LF6000, a "dumb" tv and is not wifi capable). I have been searching for "a way to turn the gs6 into a chromecast and/or Fire Tv". The hope is that I can then turn my "dumb" TV into a SmartTV and (hopefully) be able to utilize KODI as well as other smarttv type functions as if it were one to begin with.
As a side note, I have had every single samsung "galaxy s" phone; even before they were noted as such, starting with the samsung moment, the epic 4g touch, all the way up. I have rooted every single one of them, BUT I DO NOT want to root my Galaxy S8 (sungstratum mods do wonders without a need for root) bc Im in love with some of the knox features (secure folder, samsung pass etc) never having used any before due to using rooted devices.
I did find a few forums that appeared to mention ways to sort of do this, where the receiving device needed to be rooted (in my case the gs6) and the sending one did not need to be rooted (gs8). However, I cannot find them anymore, they were rather old (2015 I believe) and weren't descriptive enough or easy to follow in order to get the job done... So round-about-way of saying/asking... I think we are looking for the same thing, correct?
Wish/Help Request (summarized): use old android device as chromecast/fire Tv (rooted gs6) connected to "dumb", no wifi, HDTV // using newer android device (gs8) as the remote/casting device (chromecast) or as the Fire Tv remote if going that route is possible also... SOMEBODY, PLEASE HELP US! <Many thanks in Advance!
-E.Almighty777 (I've got that god-complex ;-P )
EvanAlmighty777 said:
I believe I am looking for the same thing! I just recently upgraded to the galaxy s8. My old device is a rooted galaxy s6. I would like to use the galaxy s6 to hook up to my LG HDTV (model is LG 55LF6000, a "dumb" tv and is not wifi capable). I have been searching for "a way to turn the gs6 into a chromecast and/or Fire Tv". The hope is that I can then turn my "dumb" TV into a SmartTV and (hopefully) be able to utilize KODI as well as other smarttv type functions as if it were one to begin with.
As a side note, I have had every single samsung "galaxy s" phone; even before they were noted as such, starting with the samsung moment, the epic 4g touch, all the way up. I have rooted every single one of them, BUT I DO NOT want to root my Galaxy S8 (sungstratum mods do wonders without a need for root) bc Im in love with some of the knox features (secure folder, samsung pass etc) never having used any before due to using rooted devices.
I did find a few forums that appeared to mention ways to sort of do this, where the receiving device needed to be rooted (in my case the gs6) and the sending one did not need to be rooted (gs8). However, I cannot find them anymore, they were rather old (2015 I believe) and weren't descriptive enough or easy to follow in order to get the job done... So round-about-way of saying/asking... I think we are looking for the same thing, correct?
Wish/Help Request (summarized): use old android device as chromecast/fire Tv (rooted gs6) connected to "dumb", no wifi, HDTV // using newer android device (gs8) as the remote/casting device (chromecast) or as the Fire Tv remote if going that route is possible also... SOMEBODY, PLEASE HELP US! <Many thanks in Advance!
-E.Almighty777 (I've got that god-complex ;-P )
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Sorry, this is not at all what I am looking for. I am looking to repurpose a tablet itself to be the device displaying the video, is if it were a tv/Chromecast single device combo. It would be a small screen, yes, but it is the best way I can describe its function.
Ty
werelwolf said:
Sorry, this is not at all what I am looking for. I am looking to repurpose a tablet itself to be the device displaying the video, is if it were a tv/Chromecast single device combo. It would be a small screen, yes, but it is the best way I can describe its function.
Ty
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I understand, and in a nutshell that is exactly what I would need to do with my galaxy s6. Repurpose it as a Chromecast , it could then play things on that screen or the big one it's attached to.. however, I guess mine requires a little extra.. as I believe you would just need this to get done what you need:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mirror-android-phone-screen-to-t3015383/page2
this app in googleplay may do the trick too: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nfo.oneassist&hl=en
I noticed there are 2 links to apps that do exactly what you want... Not too hard to come across... If you happen upon the extra step I'm needing (getting it onto the TV from the "Chromecast tablet/phone) please let me know sir!
EvanAlmighty777 said:
I understand, and in a nutshell that is exactly what I would need to do with my galaxy s6. Repurpose it as a Chromecast , it could then play things on that screen or the big one it's attached to.. however, I guess mine requires a little extra.. as I believe you would just need this to get done what you need:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mirror-android-phone-screen-to-t3015383/page2
this app in googleplay may do the trick too: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nfo.oneassist&hl=en
I noticed there are 2 links to apps that do exactly what you want... Not too hard to come across... If you happen upon the extra step I'm needing (getting it onto the TV from the "Chromecast tablet/phone) please let me know sir!
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This is much more similar to what I am looking for yes, and thank you for providing references! I'll see what I find..
Ty
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cardroid-car-pc-android-auto-usb-computer-dongle#/
Is this just a basic Android device using some mirroring software? Would it be possible to do this with a phone?
CarDroid is not a mirror dongle. The link shared has a comparison chart. Mirroring dongles don't have their own operating system and you are pretty much stuck with Android Auto.
The CarDroid is an alternative to Android Auto as it has its own operating system and memory. Also, it doesn't require you to pair with your phone to "mirror" content on your screen. Apart from connecting to BT/Wifi, your phone is basically "set free" and not required to operate CarDroid.
Is it real? Safe to buy?
cesar2010 said:
Is it real? Safe to buy?
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I bought it this weekend. I hope it will be shipped...
Fishcat7 said:
I bought it this weekend. I hope it will be shipped...
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Here as well.
Let's see what happens with this thing.
take a video about using
at least on my car, I can not be connected to the car with Bluetooth and android auto at the same time. This could be an issue for me.
Witam i jak urządzenie dotarło? Jak działa jakieś filmiki?
There is this Italian video but it is not too much...
Hi guys,
I received this thing and I must say I am disappointed.
Concept is great and to be honest this is clone of Korean Fine Drive AI 2.
But as RayBomb says device hijack your Bluetooth connection with headunit and you cant use phone just for calling over headunit.
The other big issue is non functional GPS (or missing one I'm not sure).
The project owner is trying to override this with some workaround with GPS tether from your phone but in that case you don't need this device at all.
And cherry on the top.
While flashing it with new firmware it just stopped and now I have something nice looking usb stick.
Device is probably in boot loop and nothing cant see it on usb port. I would feel better if this was my first flashing. When I think a little it is my first time to flash something regular. Since today I was only flashing custom roms and rooted devices and something like this never happened.
My advice is to stay away from this.
Better investment is to make your dedicated AA phone or just to buy phone and root it and install screen2auto what actually I did and it is working like a charm. Bugger is that you need to connect your phone every time with cable but even that is better than non functional device like this.
Only my 2 cents.
Interesting, I'm going to keep my eye on this. It seems like it has potential if they can get the bugs worked out.
I'm using Screen2Auto on a 2 phone setup because I don't want to root my main phone, but it has some problems. Hopefully, they'll get this working.
If they can get it working as intended would you be able to do a Google Assistant search for a phone number and have it make a phone call through your phone?
It's a scam ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto/comments/m1py7p
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I can confirm that Cardongle is removing critical reviews and negative comments from their Indiegogo comment section so that they can appear more legitimate and awesome.
DevAuto said:
It's a scam ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto/comments/m1py7p
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I can confirm that Cardongle is removing critical reviews and negative comments from their Indiegogo comment section so that they can appear more legitimate and awesome.
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Exactly like you said.
I was the one refunded and removed after few comments they didnt like.
On their forum also lot of my comments are removed and as I sad I was the one who bricked device. My first brick after so many years without any chance to revive it.
Only thing I regret is that I didnt backed all apps from device with app monster because I like the feature you can use your own launcher like you are on your phone. No annoying AA with his launcher and restrictions what app you can use even when you patch it.
If your device is still alive can you investigate how did they do it yo use AA on headunit as a screen.
Sorry for my bad Enlish but I hope you understood what I meant to say.
CarPC AADongle add Android, GPS, 4G Mini PC to Car
Add Mini PC to Car. Download apps like Netflix from Playstore & emulate games. With GPS & 4G Option | Check out 'CarPC AADongle add Android, GPS, 4G Mini PC to Car' on Indiegogo.
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Any news about this scam ?
GPSSlovakia said:
CarPC AADongle add Android, GPS, 4G Mini PC to Car
Add Mini PC to Car. Download apps like Netflix from Playstore & emulate games. With GPS & 4G Option | Check out 'CarPC AADongle add Android, GPS, 4G Mini PC to Car' on Indiegogo.
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Any news about this scam ?
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That appears to be different from the CarDongle but it looks similar.
Google CarPlay AI box. They use the wired CarPlay interface to project an Android OS on the car's infotainment screen. They are available now and have more features.