So where is all the s4 attraction. - Nexus 4 General

N4 was getting so much attraction but all fades within 6 months of release. It aged in just 2 months. Thats what samsung is good at making futurisitc devices.
I made a post that soon n4 users will feel cheated and now i guess is the time.
S4 and htc one has made it all look like an aging phone. People are happy because KLP will be supported on old hardware just because of this fact and hopefully masses will get KLP on their devices.
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N4 was getting so much attraction but all fades within 6 months of release. It aged in just 2 months. Thats what samsung is good at making futurisitc devices.
I made a post that soon n4 users will feel cheated and now i guess is the time.
S4 and htc one has made it all look like an aging phone. People are happy because KLP will be supported on old hardware just because of this fact and hopefully masses will get KLP on their devices.
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The nexus 4 is now out for ~5 months. wait another 4-6 months and the galaxy s4 and the HTC one will be old too and other devices will take their place.
get over it, technology is not stagnant.

grass is green and water is wet

The nexus 4 was already old when it left the factory gate. Just like the S4 is old right now. And by the looks of it, the performance of the s4 is not much better than our n4 anyways. Considering that it will probably cost more than double what we payed...i say we win!

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im trying to ignore the new phone fads i have gone through before & concentrate on enjoying the current nexus phone until the next one comes along.
it ends up costing me a fortune only for me to return to my nexus phone anyway. :good:
you can never keep up with the latest technology unless you buy every single phone on the market as its released

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still worth buying?

Hi!
I want to upgrade my DHD, and I'm looking on all the options.
So I want to check about the Note.
Is it still worth buying? I don't want to buy and after 2 month there will be Note 2 and this one will get old.
Do you recommend buying this device in two month? (I'm not talking at the device as it is, I did all that research. I'm talking only on the fact it's 7 month old... in two month it will be 9 month old)
Thanks!
Will there be a Note 2 ????? Me thinks it was one off test the waters so to speak. What would make the note better is what I ask. Apart from the latest 4.04 yeah perhaps a fast quad core proc but this thing blazes through everything as is. Only thing really different is the software look at the S3 what's the major diff is the software. (ignore quad and screen size) its the apps.
Buy the Note.
Ps just brought my note last week instead of the S3 and sold my S2
you will get used to the 5,3' screen and you will not want a phone that is smaller than the Note!
I also have HTC One X, quad core Tegra 3, 4,7' screen, but I use Note (of course on CM9) it's simply better to me
I don't want the new software, I'm only afraid there will be no more support here on XDA, as on my DHD. There are no roms coming out!
More people?
We have official cm9 support and a custom kernel..What more could you ask for?
Buy this phone now!
Sadly I can't buy it now... only in 2 month. Will it still worth buying? The device will be almost 1 year!
No need to think over it.I had bought it just 3 days ago and i love it
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Why no need? If i will buy it the beginning of Aug, it will be 1 year for the announcement. You don't think they will release a new one a bit after?
I know there are lots of great phones coming out, note 2 won't be out until fall at least if at all since they're releasing the true 10 inch tablet version next. This phone is all about the screen, aside from excellent hardware. IMO you'll have a phone that'll easily last another year before you start getting jealous. It's awesome, there's nothing like it.
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so you all thinks roms will still be developed?
i think i will buy it, the low price got me.
It's got some real old school devs for this device as well as the infamous cm9 as mentioned previously. Once we get stable Ics kernels there's no stopping us!
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Just got mine two days ago. Definitely worth buying now, it will be a while before the 2 is released. If it is. This phone is amazing, now other phones look puny not to mention the amazing display. I thought I was looking at an old nokia when I was on my wife's iPhone 4 earlier lol
Development wise it's still very early days and already progress is being made although I am holding off root as it still seems too risky at the moment. Waiting for it to be as straightforward as the Desire was even without unrevoked.
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It's got some real old school devs for this device as well as the infamous cm9 as mentioned previously. Once we get stable Ics kernels there's no stopping us!
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We have CM9 nightlies which should only get better once ICS Kernel sources are out.
Also, the note has exceptional demand, this surprised everyone - even Samsung.
I am sure there will be another 5.1-5.5" Note 2 in about 6 months.
Samsung hit a sweet spot with the note size that appeals to people who like large screen and the ability to make calls.
Personally I am getting the S3, and when Note2 comes, I'll just switch to it.
Guys I'm thinking of buying one cause of this great price http://www.ebay.com/itm/36045880681...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_11855wt_922
Question is will this work on T-mobile?
to the OP...stop contemplating about what may happen tomorrow, get the Note today and enjoy. Life is too short. Technology will change and if you wait now, you will wait again because you will worry that a better technology will come out later.
get the Note.......and be happy with it.
im sure the note 2 wont be the best for long, but i just to want to buy and after 2 month there will be a new one and developers will stop the develop.
in the other side, the note 2's price will be much higher.
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im sure the note 2 wont be the best for long, but i just to want to buy and after 2 month there will be a new one and developers will stop the develop.
in the other side, the note 2's price will be much higher.
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Development will stop?! How new are you to xda?! Go look at two threads, the Desire and hd2. As long as there are users there will be devs don't you worry about that!
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i have the desire hd, and now there are no developers
once in a month there is an update for some of the roms, that includes only new apps and update of apps (as play store, g+ etc.).
Once you buy it, you would never wanna go back. It is the best out there. As far as tech goes, it keeps on evolving at a rapid pace. And GN is nothing like the iPhones where the older version seems outdated the moment newer version is launched. What we see in GS III should essentialy be in the Note II or whatever they call it. I bet it would be the same (maybe a bit tweaked) as on GS III, quad core (A15 dual core might be better than quad but it won't hit the normal, non geeky consumer. General belief: Quad > Dual, More MPs ~ better camera), maybe the same 8MP as on S3 again and such stuff. I hope the design is more in line with Note than a hybrid of S2 and GNex.
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im almost sure it will be lighter, and thinner and a screen with a higher resolution, but i dont care about all this, because there will always be a newer and better device.

Received Nexus.......Selling this week. Nexus VS TAB 2 7 3G

I have been going around and around with these devices. I got the TAB 2 7 P3100 3G from the wife for Christmas after researching both. I could not make up my mind and Christmas was coming quickly so I asked her for the more expensive P3100 (LOL) and I already have a samsung device in the Note 2.
But was still very interested in the Nexus since I have been reading nothing but great things about it. Now this may not be a fair comparison because the TAB is a 3G device that is invisible to my carrier ATT. However I will put that aside and share my impressions after playing with the Nexus solely for the last day and a half.
When I initially put the TAB 2 next to my Note, my jaw dropped at the "washed out" colors on the TAB compared to the Note 2. This lit the Nexus fire and I had to get one now especially since I read and heard nothing but great things about the Nexus screen, When I saw a One day only sale at the Adorama Store on Ebay on New Years day for $229 shipped I jumped at it and ordered an accessories package on Ebay (which has yet to arrive). I immediately put the TAB on Ebay for a high "Buy It Now only price (in the "unlikely" event i would not like the Nexus 7) I am glad now no one bought it after playing with the Nexus over the past couple days.
Initially I loved the all black look of the Nexus with the screen off vs the framed TAB. (small meaningless detail) I also appreciated the slightly narrower form factor and feel of the back cover. The glass was perfect. No build issues here. Looked great although I am not the type who "wears" my phones and devices. I use them.
I immediately unlocked it, flashed a custom recovery and flashed ParanoidAndroid on it. Very nice. I played with it for a day or so. This afternoon I finally I put the TAB side by side with the Nexus and found the Nexus was faster but not all that much. Not enough to say "wow" Certainly not as much as I thought it would be.
What stopped me in my tracks and gave me major pause was when I put the same picture up on the Nexus I initially compared with my Note 2 and had all three side by side. The Note was still much better. No suprise there. But this time the TAB and Nexus were very much the same. The Nexus was not as I had expected. The colors were not nearly as saturated as the Note and in fact almost identical to the TAB on all screen brightness settings In fact I could not tell them apart from a color saturation standpoint. I could however appreciate the denser pixel count on the Nexus when zooming in especially. But Needless to say i expected a much much better screen color quality and much much closer to the Note 2 in color quality. The Note 2 screen is amazing I guess.
USB OTG worked great on both but I don't need it on the TAB with 70GB of usable storage. vs <30GB. I initially had issue with the 64GB card in the TAB which pushed me into the nexus as well early on. But that has been solved. That along with the 3G and phone abilities of the TAB leading me to decide the TAB was the better of the two to keep for my needs.
Initially I thought the choices of ROMs the Nexus development community offered would be a plus but I usually find one ROM and stick with it. I can always get the CM 10 and AKOP ROMS for the TAB along with the TW ROMs.
The front camera on the Nexus is not as good as the rear camera on the TAB although the difference was about as much as the front cameras between the TAB and Nexus. All of them are nothing special. (although I am old enough to remember when 3MB camera was a great addition to a phone!!)
The thing I did like about the Nexus is the USB port but I have loaded up with Samsung "proprietary" USB Cables
and OTG accessories.
All that said the TAN IS A 3g devices and a phone. IF The TAB were the US non 3G model the decision would be much harder. But I would likely lean in its direction because I am used to Samsungs recovery and download modes (although Fastboot took all of 30 seconds to figure out) I expected a whole lot more from the color density and the screen on the Nexus, At the end of the day the additional storage along with the camera possibilities won me over. I am not a gamer so the quad core would likely not be a factor although I did run Need for Speed on the TAb to test it initially and it ran fine.
This is not a knock on the Nexus. It is a great device and for the money the best on paper. but for me anyway the difference were not enough to give up the advantages of the extra storage and free phone and 3G capability, which I could have done anyway using the Note as a hot spot with the Nexus,
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Quoted cause its the truth.
korockinout13 said:
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Just be lucky you weren't like me.
Bought the Acer iconia a110, was cheap and had similar specs to n7 with hdmi out and sdcard slot.
Played with it for a bit....turned out it wasn't for me. Screen looked terrible, it weighed quite abit more than my 7, brought it back (was an 8gb model) to find the nexus 7 calling my name. I bought the 32gb model with no regrets, great device for the price in my opinion.
Edit : I always see people are complaining about the n7 not having a back camera, seriously a tablet is no device meant for mad photography. Get a nikkon or some **** lol. Front camera is 'OK' Good enough for my Skype calls with my lady :thumbup:
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I wouldn't have minded a back camera on the N7 for Skype. My wife travels a lot and when we Skype I use my phone so I can flip back and forth on the cameras so she can see our baby playing and generally being cute. I could also imagine in the business world it would be useful to show clients whatever in a video conference call. Even if it was a cheap 2.0 megapixel camera, that would have been fine.
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I think the N7 is a great tablet, one of the best and considered the best by some users. You can run almost any app/game without any lag and if you overclock the cpu, it will be even more powerful. First, I wanted to buy a more expensive device, but I looked over N7's performance and price and this was my final choice. I don't regret it!
Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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QUOTE=AFAinHD;36401781]Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
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I completely agree and I mentioned that but on the face of it the Galaxy Tab 7 without 3g would still be a better choice for me for the reasons I indicated. But I only spent $350 dollars for the Tab 3G. Nowhere near $500. I read a lot of reviews and read this area of X DA, for a long time and decided I needed to have them both in front of me to make a decision. Which took about 2 days.
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The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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Oh I thought about that Note, 3G 10.1 but I don't want to carry around a tablet that big I bought one of those for my wife for Christmas as a musician she can use it for the playback tracks or sheet music and replace little Acer she's currently using or at least have a good Backup. I would love to see the Note come in a 6 inch phone version. I wouldn't need both the tablet and phone. In the meantime there's no way I would get rid of the Note 2.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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that's not what i'm saying. We own a flagship device. Not only do we get the updates instantly, google releases the updates on their website with source so developers can make roms with ease. Its a lot easier to make a ROM for the latest update when google has given you the newest update source code already optimized for your device on a silver platter.
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It sounds like you've already thought of all the different angles, and your mind's made up. Like I said fortunately it's not the CDMA version, my friend bought one and there really isn't any Dev love for that thing. Enjoy your tab 2!
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Wouldn't that make you an Asus fanboy
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I am just wondering what the longevity is for the nexus 4. Will I be able to use it for at least 3 years cause I am done keeping up with the joneses
But the nexus 4 does have a few shortcomings that makes me thing it will not have that much longevity. To name a few
- storage is only 16gigs
- camera is not the best on the market
- no lte
- launch is a huge failure. And it makes me wonder if the community is going to pick up some steam or if people are holding out for the N5 or the S4
How future proof is the nexus 4?
You can hold on to the Nexus 4 as long as you want. For some the phone may fit their need for 6 months and for others the phone may fit their need for 3 years. You have people still using the the Nexus One that came out in 2010.
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In my opinion, yes. I see this device as being relevant for at least 3 years, and no less. There will be faster things in 3 years, that's no question. But this device will remain relevant due to Google's software support and it being a Nexus device, XDA's unconditional support in the long run.
Second, it will also be useful for at least 3 years due to the awesome LG tech sprinkled in which bumps up the 500-full charge cycles to 800 cycles before the battery starts capping off at 80% of its original charge.
Things like storage, camera, etc, that's really a personal choice for you. For people who don't need it, the N4 is a no brainer. I've personally been more than satisfied with the camera.
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I am just wondering what the longevity is for the nexus 4. Will I be able to use it for at least 3 years cause I am done keeping up with the joneses
But the nexus 4 does have a few shortcomings that makes me thing it will not have that much longevity. To name a few
- storage is only 16gigs
- camera is not the best on the market
- no lte
- launch is a huge failure. And it makes me wonder if the community is going to pick up some steam or if people are holding out for the N5 or the S4
How future proof is the nexus 4?
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I wouldn't say the launch was a failure. Actual Demand far exceeded projected demand this is a win in my eyes. Was the launch frustrating, yes but that does not equate to failure
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Smart phones are slowly getting to the same point at desktop PCs. You will be able to perform most basic functions on a older device with gamers and geeks demanding the latest and greatest hardware.
A friend recently picked up a sgs2. She does not game and is a light user and the phone runs fine.
The only thing that you might want to upgrade early for is lte.
Full disclosure: I live in canada so I already have a lte n4
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It depends on ones usage. There's still plenty of people perfectly happy with the Galaxy S, iPhone 3GS, Nexus One etc. And those devices are approaching 3 and even 4 years old. And those are single core phones with 512mb of RAM or less. A 4th of what current devices are coming out with. I'd imagine the crop of dual core phones with 1gb+ of RAM released in 2011/12 will last just as long if not longer. Dual core still has yet to be completely saturated and now we're coming out with quad core phones. Software still has plenty of catching up to do. I'm fully expecting to get 2-3 years out of my Nexus 4 with my current usage.
The person who mentioned the SII above is exactly right. Most good smartphones from the SII on will be fine for years unless there is some specific application that requires something that only a newer phone will have. Personally, I held onto the SII for a couple of years and expect the N4 to last as long if not longer (mind you my boss and a lot of people still have blackberries/"smart"phones that are ancient and are perfectly happy). The only things that might require an upgrade is if you are really into pictures and use it as your primary camera and need LTE; then again if you bought the N4 with a view to keeping it for a while, I am guessing that neither of these apply to you.
The lack of replies have made me seriously consider the iphone 5. I opened this topic yesterday and I only got like 6 replies. I am wondering how long this device is going to last since the community right now is nonexistent. If there is no community for this phone then the phone has zero longevity.
At least the iphone 5 is going to be supported for a while and has that longevity.
The Nexus 4 will be supported by Google for 2 years AT THE LEAST, probably more.
I will determine how long i am going to use mine when i FINALLY get the f*cking thing!
wilcoholic said:
The lack of replies have made me seriously consider the iphone 5. I opened this topic yesterday and I only got like 6 replies. I am wondering how long this device is going to last since the community right now is nonexistent. If there is no community for this phone then the phone has zero longevity.
At least the iphone 5 is going to be supported for a while and has that longevity.
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No community? What? This is a Nexus, bro. The community is just getting started. It is the main reason I bought this phone.
Maybe you should get an iPhone 5. I think it would suit you.
The Nexus 4 has all the raw power required in a smartphone for the foreseeable future, but the x-factor is what other things will be added to phones in a year or two. New sensors that have compelling use cases or new radios that allow a new kind of connection will be the things that cause this phone (and each of its contemporaries) to be less usable
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I opened this topic yesterday and I only got like 6 replies.
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Maybe because everybody already answered in one of the 10 other threads with this topic.
I am wondering how long this device is going to last since the community right now is nonexistent.
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There are already far more than 200.000 posts in the Nexus 4 section of XDA. Not bad for a device that is barely 3 months on the market. Official support for a number of custom roms (including Cyanogenmod) is already there and you are talking about a nonexistent community?
At least the iphone 5 is going to be supported for a while and has that longevity.
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Hm... I think I am feeding a troll here?
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No community? What? This is a Nexus, bro. The community is just getting started. It is the main reason I bought this phone.
Maybe you should get an iPhone 5. I think it would suit you.
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Wrong. Its a nexus with a failed launch, with rumors of a nexus5, finger pointing and the galaxy s4 right around the corner. And it already lags behind other flagship phones in terms of specs
The phone will last until it breaks. I'm guessing five to ten years?
Come on, we used to have phones for years, with zero updates, and were perfectly happy.
Galaxy s2 does pretty everything my nexus 4 does and probably more, it's just a little slower.
With this phone as it stands now, with zero new updates, it'll last as long as you want or need.
Only way you might want new features is if you buy into samsungs touchwiz enhancements like split screen etc.
edit: As for lagging behind other flagship phones in terms of specs? You mean the Droid DNA and the Butterfly J? Because they are the only phones I can think of that are out now, with any kind of jump on the Nexus 4 hardware wise, and they are only available in the good old U.s of A and Japan? please...
wilcoholic said:
Wrong. Its a nexus with a failed launch, with rumors of a nexus5, finger pointing and the galaxy s4 right around the corner. And it already lags behind other flagship phones in terms of specs
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Haha. You're stupid.
You are using rumor and opinion to make a point. Therefore there is no reasoning with you. You only want to argue and make drama. Have fun with your iPhone 5.
What a ridiculously useless thread.
No one has any clue how well the Nexus 4 will hold up after 3 years. It hasn't even been in our hands for 3 months.
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What a ridiculously useless thread.
No one has any clue how well the Nexus 4 will hold up after 3 years. It hasn't even been in our hands for 3 months.
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I couldn't agree more. Thread reported.
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Wrong. Its a nexus with a failed launch, with rumors of a nexus5, finger pointing and the galaxy s4 right around the corner. And it already lags behind other flagship phones in terms of specs
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What phones does the nexus 4 lag behind? The DNA and note 2 are the only 2 right now I can think of that the hardware matches up to the nexus 4.
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Haha. You're stupid.
You are using rumor and opinion to make a point. Therefore there is no reasoning with you. You only want to argue and make drama. Have fun with your iPhone 5.
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Ok whatever. Thats not the point. The point is is that the specs of the next gen phones are already out and their are going to be released pretty soon. And at this moment the community of the nexus 4 still hasn't picked up steam 3 months after release.
I and many others are thinking with next gen phones right around the corner would it still be wise to get an outdated nexus4.
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What phones does the nexus 4 lag behind? The DNA and note 2 are the only 2 right now I can think of that the hardware matches up to the nexus 4.
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iphone5, note2, sgs3
The OP is either is either extremely uninformed or a master troll. I can't tell which. This is hilarious.

Nexus 4 Backlash

I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I don't think you're gonna find anyone who dislikes the Nexus 4 here bro
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I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I have a note 2, gs3, gs2, galaxy nexus, droid RAZR, iPhone 5, and a nexus 4. Guess which one is my favorite? The nexus 4!!
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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I don't know, people like to nitpick. My problem with the Nexus 4 is the same as the Galaxy Nexus I previously owned, its never 100% perfect, even after an RMA, there is still a bit of black light bleeding, a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, my wireless charging orb stopped working, had to RMA that, and so on, the Nexus line to me has always had some flaws in terms of hardware reliability.
That being said, the Nexus 4 is among the most beautiful phones, up there with the high end Xperia phones, and with amazing hardware, so asides from the hardware imperfections that one might encounter if unlucky, its a great phone.
I cannot think of a single phone other than the new Xperia (if aosp) that is coming out that I would trade my Nexus 4 for.
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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People bash it because they don't have it
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People bash it because they don't have it
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you just might be right sir. This is actually my first nexus device. I honestly was really close in getting the S3 until I saw this technological beauty being demoed at a local T-Mobile store. I swear I heard the phone calling my name lol. I immediately forgot all about the S3 and purchased the N4 full price.
Where is this so called backlash at?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Don't pay attention to ***** ratings.. Nothing but a popularity contest.. Read the conclusions and see if the `cons' are anything you deem a problem. They focused on lack of LTE which is a legit gripe no matter how you spin it and how well HSPA+ works.. It is a technology that is sort expected now a days. But.. Unless it personally affects you.. Then it doesn't matter..
They also focused on calling it "uninspiring" "not expanding the Nexus brand".. That's when I stop taking them seriously.. When reviewers start getting all Martha Stewart on you.. It's time to stop reading.
It is just not flawless: back glass, which can crack in any day, noise from earpiece, non-vibrant screen - these spoil impression from the phone. It is my first nexus devise (I had xperia Ion before it) and I expected much more from it. I still haven't decided which one to sell - Nexus or Ion. Ion is flawless except that hardware quite old.
And that's what makes the difference between the nexus 4 and everything else. It will constantly get updates before any other phone. I can totally understand the glass back being fragile.
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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For me it doesn't matter how much it costs - I could buy iphone 5, but I don't like iOS. Price is just a good bonus. Having top hardware specs is good, but will not you feel disappointed if your back glass is cracked? And this state of waiting and checking if it is cracked or not... I hate being in situation like this. Maybe in some time I will stop thinking of this. Will not you be disappointed if you had another device with worse specs, but with so much better display?
That's a good question...
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I'm not saying cost should be a factor, but rather value. Look at what u get for such a low cost. I can understand the glass back being an issue. But I'd rather have the back shatter then the display itself. Luckily I have a case. Either way I would be disappointed. But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not sure as of yet. From what I've read it hasnt been that much of an issue unless you're doing extreme multitasking. So far Ive played Need for Speed Most Wanted while listening to music and it hasnt shut down yet. It does heat up though but not bad enough to shut the entire phone down.
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But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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I spent 475$ for 16 GB version - that is its price in the UK. And i spent about 100$ for different accessories for it (skins, cases, etc). Maybe if lived in US and bought it for 300 I would have a different opinion

Sooooo what are you doing while waiting for this phone?

I mean besides checking Google and refreshing the threads on here 100X per day?
I guess my low point came a couple of weeks ago after the FCC leaked the measurements and I drew it up on paper, cut it out, just to see how the shape and size felt in my hand...Yea I was bored that day lol.
Trying to sell an iphone 5s to have enough money to get me and my wife an N5.
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I guess my low point came a couple of weeks ago after the FCC leaked the measurements and I drew it up on paper, cut it out, just to see how the shape and size felt in my hand...Yea I was bored that day lol.
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I did that too xD
I like to get a physical representation of things though, always been a tactile learner.
well my trusty nexus 4 screen shattered. So its useless now. Back on my s2, ready to throw money at the screen
I'm moving the wife and I over to Straight Talk AT&T from Verizon with 2 x Nexus 4's until the day arrives. She'll keep one Nexus 4 and I'll grab the 5
Flashing roms on my N4...
zzzzzZZZZZ..... wake me up when they start selling it :angel:
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zzzzzZZZZZ..... wake me up when they start selling it :angel:
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For realz dog.
I think what hurt us die hard fans some was that the leaks came out early and it seems like we have already been waiting an eternity.
Release phone first then OS
I think the KitKat is delaying the release of the phone. The phone is definitely ready. They could release the phone first followed by OTAs. I wouldnt mind bugs
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I mean besides checking Google and refreshing the threads on here 100X per day?
I guess my low point came a couple of weeks ago after the FCC leaked the measurements and I drew it up on paper, cut it out, just to see how the shape and size felt in my hand...Yea I was bored that day lol.
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Start researching for ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474650
Carrying on my normal day to day life, when the time comes to order I'll be ordering like the rest you
Trying to work out how to use the predictive text on my existing phone. Shut the duck of you ducking aunt, this is bull PIGT.
Fight with my laggy Xperia Arc
I strongly disagree
adityats2020 said:
I think the KitKat is delaying the release of the phone. The phone is definitely ready. They could release the phone first followed by OTAs. I wouldnt mind bugs
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Being an Android enthusiast(or over enthusiast like others ) I'm expecting KitKat as much as Nexus 5. Without KitKat changes(hope there have some tricks up their sleeve) Nexus 5 is just like iPhone iteration.
Using an iPhone 5 and can't wait for the Nexus 5 to be released.
Praying for a 64gb version and flashing Roms on my HTC One. Will be selling it and grabbing an N5 if there happens to be a 64gb version. Not likely but one can hope.
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I get so excited every time I get my daily RSS fix.
And then I end the day wondering if tomorrow there will be some news about Google sending out press invites for an October event
Typing nexus 5 into Google and mashing the F5 key until there's new news
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lol..u got too much time on ur hands
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Trying to sell an iphone 5s to have enough money to get me and my wife an N5.
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I have a 5s as well and was thinking about selling but if the Nexus 5 is $300 with those leaked specs I may use the Nexus 5 as a mini tablet instead of getting a Nexus 7 2013. I also don't want to use custom roms on my daily driver anymore due to my crack flashing habit. Plus I do like the small size, FaceTime with the wife and speed of the iPhone.
And you got to figure that the Nexus 5 will hold its value very well compared to a Nexus 7. I know it's not a tablet but compared to a 4" inch iPhone it's pretty close. And if the Nexus 5 has a ir blaster I would be in heaven.

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