It's a nice phone but I'm a themer at heart so I would be too tempted to put Nova or something on this phone the day I got it so I could install custom icons and layouts etc. Do you think a 3rd party launcher would cause lag issues on top of Sense 5? I suppose it would also make the blinkfeed screen disappear as well?
omnius1 said:
It's a nice phone but I'm a themer at heart so I would be too tempted to put Nova or something on this phone the day I got it so I could install custom icons and layouts etc. Do you think a 3rd party launcher would cause lag issues on top of Sense 5? I suppose it would also make the blinkfeed screen disappear as well?
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Putting Nova will get rid of Blinkfeed.
As for lag? I don't think so.
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Putting Nova will get rid of Blinkfeed.
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On that note, would blinkfeed still run using CPU/battery/RAM in the background if I were to install a 3rd party launcher?
Won't know till you really try it. I use Nova on my s3 and it lags ever so slightly. I can't stand touchwiz, so just deal with it.
There are many options we have though. If not feeling blinkfeed, just move it to a different screen and don't update it, problem solved for sense.
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omnius1 said:
On that note, would blinkfeed still run using CPU/battery/RAM in the background if I were to install a 3rd party launcher?
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Disable all feeds and it won't do a thing.
I suppose you could always wait until the phone gets cm10. Sense 5 and blinkfeed won't even be on the phone anymore using up your ram.
Running Apex or Nova on this phone will hinder it just like wings hinder birds.
I use Nova on my S3 and no lag at all times (AOSP ROM) but when I get the HTC One ill just leave it as it is for now
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If you're rooted, then just install Nova, go to /system/app and change the Launcher.apk to Launcher.apk.bak and reboot. Or delete it completely. Or use Titanium, back it up and delete it.
I guess I should have specified, I meant how they'd perform on the One without root on the phone as-is
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The lag seen with ADW is really starting to annoy me. At first I was ultra happy with the phone, but then some of my friends with iphone 4s pointed out how choppy the switching of homescreens was on the N1 along with the stutter seen on the app drawer. I have googled everything and cant find a fix. I already tried doing the recomended settings from the link below, but there is still lag. Will switching to launcher pro fix my issues? I am hesitant to switch because I love that ADW has the look of the stock froyo launcher, is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2700-adw-vs-launcher-pro-for-cm6/page__view__findpost__p__25057
Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
You're only 2346851 in number to ask this question.
Jack_R1 said:
Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
You're only 2346851 in number to ask this question.
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Haha so true, ignorance is great. Yea i know alot of people had similar questions, but all the threads i found were not for N1s and they were pretty old, figured out some genius must have done something about it since just about everything else has been done on these xda forums. I just hate seeing wasted potential. The snapdragon and 512mb ram is more than enough horsepower to get simple smooth scrolling down. Just wish there was some type of gpu acceleration support.
By the way how do you turn off the wifi automatically when you leave home? I rely on the powercontrol widget.
I had a similar point from an iPhone user, I barely noticed it - and then I pointed out I was running a custom launcher (launcher pro) with a TON of widgets and animated wallpaper. Since then an update has made it silky smooth.
There are a few themes in launcher pro, default froyo is one - I use wide froyo which gives me:
phone-contacts-app-drawer-sms-browser
buttons.
Gingerbread should help in this department, or so they say. Currently the best the launchers can do still has a hiccup or two from time to time. Personally, I don't even notice it, using LauncherPro, as the poster above me, with all 7 screens full of icons and widgets, and Starfield wallpaper.
Locale. It's a great concept app. I used it, but stopped - now I just keep BT and WiFi constantly on (BT almost doesn't drain battery - usually less than 2% of the power - and WiFi is present at home and at work, so I turn it off only when the phone is expected to last long in places where no WiFi is found). Since I don't have other uses - like turning down the volume automatically in specific places, etc - I stopped using it.
smachine said:
... along with the stutter seen on the app drawer.
is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
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Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.
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Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.
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Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.
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Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.
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You can easily switch back. A lot of people seems to be experiencing a little lag with adw in the latest CM version. Launcher pro doesn't have this issue.
I'm not sure about Adw running in the background, but you can easily uninstall it using titanium backup.
I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).
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I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).
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My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps
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My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps
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I bought my nexus with cm6 already installed, and still havent bothered updating to the newest 6.1 version. Mainly im just waiting till the end of the month. Dont want to mess anything up and i need my phone to be fully functional till then. All i know is that in the sd card I saw a clockworkmod file, so im assuming thats the backup. I will go into installing custom roms probably when gingerbread is released. I might try installing launcher pro again and uninstalling adw fully and see if that fixes the lag. I like ADW and just wish the app scrolling was a little more smooth.
**** I just found out that my ADW version was 1.0.1, and there have many updates since then. I found a 1.2.0 version and will test that out. http://code.google.com/p/adw-launcher-android/downloads/list
Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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Couldn't agree more I used to juggle roms and now I use miuimod with lpp with the screen cache turned off and if I have to compete against a iPhone showdown then I put my min CPU at 384 and it should be as smooth if not smoother. n1 is great for tinkering
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also turning off the transparency in the drawer should help improve smoothness
Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.
smachine said:
Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.
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A lot of it depends on the specific wallpaper in question. Slower, more subtle animations tend to behave better (and use less battery) than some of the more intense ones. I recommend one called Substrate - it slowly evolves and changes, but keeps the homescreen transitions very smooth and snappy.
I'm currently running one called "better matrix" or something similar that is very eye catching but doesn't bog things down too much.
Just curious what the GTab owners that are running HC are using as their default launcher? I just flashed HC today, and actually intend on keeping it for a while. My problem is, I really miss using launcher pro on my Froyo roms. Just the ability to resize wigets and define columns and rows is invaluable. I've been reading on Xoom forums that many of it's users have actualy reverted back to ADW or LP. It's also been said that the HC widgets (scrollable) will still work, regardless of the launcher used.
SO...easy question, anybody go back to VTL or LP in lieux of the stock HC launcher? I think I'll mess with it tomorrow and see if I like it better. The one thing I think I like about the stock launcher is the long press ot add items to the home screen.
I am in the same boat. The HC launcher sucks. Sure there are some aspect that are nice but nothing that would make me stick with it as a long term launcher.
I may try my LP+ a little later.
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SO...easy question, anybody go back to VTL or LP in lieux of the stock HC launcher? I think I'll mess with it tomorrow and see if I like it better. The one thing I think I like about the stock launcher is the long press ot add items to the home screen.
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I don't think VTL is compatible with HC.
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I don't think VTL is compatible with HC.
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I was running it for a while to see if I wanted to go in that direction. I never really used VTL all that much. Sometimes too much customization can get confusing. It ran fine while installed, no FCs (well, no more than stock launcher or LP, anyway) and no problems with widgets, etc. I think they probably said that it wasn't compatible for Honeycomb so that folks that install it don't come asking them to fix things. i mean, technically, honeycomb itself is buggy, so until the firmware is stable, a launcher can't be blamed for any hiccups that may occur.
In any case. I ended up installing Launcher Pro, and frankly, I'm loving it. It doesn't have the same honeycomb feel when adding items ot home page, but really, I only do this occasionally, anyway. and the app drawer isn't the same, obviously, but all in all, I like how it looks, and runs. I can use the entire screen for widgets (and resize them BIG +) and icons.
The only thing lost is the dock that's at the top of the HC screens, with search, apps, and + (add item to home screen)
well, I never use search, and I long press ot add items, so all I needed was my app drawer access. I set LP for 1 dock, no background, then added the app drawer icon to the very bottom of the "dock" so it looks like a perminant app drawer icon right above the notification bar. Looks sharp, if you ask me.
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I was running it for a while to see if I wanted to go in that direction. I never really used VTL all that much. Sometimes too much customization can get confusing. It ran fine while installed, no FCs (well, no more than stock launcher or LP, anyway) and no problems with widgets, etc. I think they probably said that it wasn't compatible for Honeycomb so that folks that install it don't come asking them to fix things. i mean, technically, honeycomb itself is buggy, so until the firmware is stable, a launcher can't be blamed for any hiccups that may occur.
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So it does. I gave it another shot and got a pretty sweet setup I think.
So I switched over to LP+ and now my battery life while not on (in standby) sucks and now I am back to the random shut downs when trying to power up from standby. The way it used to with older ROMs witch had never happened with an HC rom.
Now I could be full of it but that is me experience since installing LP+ Take it for what it's worth.
any reason why i get Such a terrible redraw on the stock launcher? i am rooted, debloated and running hte V6 script (does it with it installed and not installed) and i get bad redraw probs...any fixes? with ADW i get nothing..but i kinda like moto lancher...
thanks!!
I believe it's to do with how much memory is allocated for the launcher and whether its set to stay resident.
I'm sure it can be manipulated in the framework somewhere probably systemui.
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i just made ADW look almost excatley like the blur launcher so im ok with that..and it runs so much better..i just wish i could find the EXCATE look alike dock for adw..
Better off trying to hack the framework and work it out from there, i also prefer the stock launcher cos it's refereshingly different enough to most other launchers i've used and i've used them all including- Sony Arc, Samsung Galaxy S 2 and optimus 2x/3D launchers.
Just wish the stock launcher had an option for folders like the Arc, very handy.
-smc
dvigue said:
any reason why i get Such a terrible redraw on the stock launcher? i am rooted, debloated and running hte V6 script (does it with it installed and not installed) and i get bad redraw probs...any fixes? with ADW i get nothing..but i kinda like moto lancher...
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Here's a fix: Move apps from Media Area to Phone if any. Tell me if this helps.
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That could speed things up.
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there was only one app (game time) on the Media Area and no it didn't do anything. The thing is that I'm using Launcher Pro and it is still VERY SLOW to load everything up EVERY TIME I go back to the homescreen. This phone is acting slower than my D2GG
the new blur launcher is very memory hungry. It constantly gets killed (when launching another memory intensive app), then when you get back to home (or even want to see running apps) the horrible redraw/delay happens. Especially if you have widgets on the home screen and stuff like beautiful weather, expect horrible performance out of it. I can't understand why Motorola released the phone with 512MB RAM only...
The only true way to fix this is to go ADW or Launcher Pro (or other lightweight launcher). I was long time ADW fan but it feels LauncherPro behaves better on our phones. Using it now, screen redraw is minimal if not non-existent. Happy now. (not as happy if phone had 1G RAM )
using launcher pro, when I unlock the home screen sometimes it is drawn black where my shortcuts should be and the bottom shortcut bar is displayed fine
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That's been a bug with launcher pro for a looooooong time. Just slide your finger across the screen and everything will appear just fine.
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Hi
I'm using the latest cm9 nightly (20121223) and I'm using the default launcher which I think is Trebuchet. Like I say, I'm pretty new at this. Anyway, I was wondering if it was possible to use a different launcher such as Nova or GO without too much bother e.g. having to reinstall every time I flash the latest nightly. It"s not a big deal but some of the Play Store themes look pretty nice. I'd like the functionality of an app drawer, for example.
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I'm using the latest cm9 nightly (20121223) and I'm using the default launcher which I think is Trebuchet. Like I say, I'm pretty new at this. Anyway, I was wondering if it was possible to use a different launcher such as Nova or GO without too much bother e.g. having to reinstall every time I flash the latest nightly. It"s not a big deal but some of the Play Store themes look pretty nice. I'd like the functionality of an app drawer, for example.
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FP
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IDK about reinstalling after every nightly installation, but there are several in the Play store to choose from.
Trebuchet has an app drawer. Click on the 6 squares on the upper right hand side, that'll take you to the app drawer.
I tried several, but I came back to Trebuchet each time. Holo HD is the one I liked best.
Thanks. I probably didn't articulate myself very well earlier. When I said app drawer, I meant a permanent drawer at the bottom of the screen as appears to be in all the pictures of the other themes. I guess it's kind of like the iOS experience in that case.
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IDK about reinstalling after every nightly installation, but there are several in the Play store to choose from.
Trebuchet has an app drawer. Click on the 6 squares on the upper right hand side, that'll take you to the app drawer.
I tried several, but I came back to Trebuchet each time. Holo HD is the one I liked best.
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Holo HD has the option for a 'dock' at the bottom, and so do several of the other ones. Apex is good, also.
Anyone know how to remove that live feed that's on the first screen and add a couple more screens?
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Anyone know how to remove that live feed that's on the first screen and add a couple more screens?
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Install a launcher and forget about it
Blinkfeed 'can't be removed' and Sense also has issues.
Nova launcher works particularly well on the One imo.
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Install a launcher and forget about it
Blinkfeed 'can't be removed' and Sense also has issues.
Nova launcher works particularly well on the One imo.
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Doesn't the nova launcher drain higher amount of battery?? Since htc sense is still running in the background?