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Nice device but the drop down menu is nasty and the stock keyboard leaves something to be desired The stock launcher is also driving me nuts (no landscape). Rooting the thing was also a nightmare but I suspect 2 of my 3 my PCs were the culprit. I finally rooted and tested the N7 against my Tf101 Transformer and a little disappointed that FF7 plays identical on the new Tegra3. Perhaps FPse isn't taking advantage of the new cores. Meh.
I bought the tablet last night on a whim. I walked into staples and they had a bunch. Overall the build quality is great. Feels like a stout little tablet. I'm just not sold on the Phablet mode. I already have a GalaxyNexus and it kinda just feels like a large version of that.
I definitely am going to try tablet mode and a new keyboard (thumb keyboard was my choice on the 10"). I also recommend just unlocking ASAP just so you don't lose everything if you decide to root in the future.
Overall the device is a good buy for the $$ but just a heads up for new owners with prior tablet experience that it feels a little off from other tablets IMO. This doesn't have to be a bad thing.
I was pretty impressed with the battery even for through the night. I picked it up at 5pm and was pretty much constantly on it testing and rooting and testing until 3am. I gave it a good charge over night so well see how today goes.
Now if the awesome devs here can somehow get HDMI out working, I'd be set.
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How is rooting a nightmare
Adb reboot bootloader
Fastboot oem unlock
Fastboot flash recovery xxx.tar
Adb push su.zip /sdcard/
Adb reboot recovery
How hard is that?
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Don't know what your problem is.
For the price there is nothing to complain about whatsoever.
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WOW, rooting was hard?
If that was really the case, you really shouldn't bother. Some people shouldn't have root.
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Easy, guys. OP said his PCs were the reasons for the rooting nightmare. Probably ADB drivers or something.
And OP is just telling the community a few observations. I hardly think this is a complaint thread.
Drivers exactly... plus Windows 8. And for the record rooting has never been the problem... just driver issues. Plus if you look at my signature, you'd tell I've been around.
Anyway that said, the thread was just posting my initial thoughts and woes for new owners. Windows 8 is the future and its driver protection crap is horrible. If you guys actually found the steps for installing the drivers on windows 8, you'd know it wasn't an easy process. You basically have to reboot the Pc in a special mode that disables this security feature and really hack around with it. The Galaxy Nexus drivers went in without s hitch so it boils down to infancy drivers that aren't signed properly.
It IS an issue, just not for you guys apparently.
Overall once the drivers were locked in, yea ADB commands are cake... or use the 1 click app that's available.
Anyway, after replacing the stock keyboard to my fav Thumbs Keyboard and some heavy gaming, I got over 9 hours with almost 6 screen on time. The 7" form factor fits in my cargo pocket of my shorts and very easy to tote. Very nice tablet.
Missing HDMI out. And the screens whites have a red tint compared to my Transformer. Both, hopefully can be resolved by some custom kernels.
Thanks for the unneeded ball busting comments
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Dude, you've had it for ONE DAY.
Give it a week and let us know if you have put it down yet.
Talk to us then.
Thank You.
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Dude, you've had it for ONE DAY.
Give it a week and let us know if you have put it down yet.
Talk to us then.
Thank You.
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Don't Initial thoughts typically happen within the first day... right? Isn't that the topic of this thread? Initial Impressions...
I currently own a Nook Tablet, Asus Transformer, Samsung Galaxy 7, Galaxy Nexus, and a Nexus 7. I think I am more then experienced in Android devices to make educated comparisons between units. Nothing is really negative anyway. Battery life is stellar, even for the first day. I got over 6 hours while gaming. I'm liking the N7... alot.
This thread is about me sharing my experience with others. I don't understand why everyone is negative Nancy in here.
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Hence you don't get Windows 8
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Don't Initial thoughts typically happen within the first day... right? Isn't that the topic of this thread? Initial Impressions...
I currently own a Nook Tablet, Asus Transformer, Samsung Galaxy 7, Galaxy Nexus, and a Nexus 7. I think I am more then experienced in Android devices to make educated comparisons between units. Nothing is really negative anyway. Battery life is stellar, even for the first day. I got over 6 hours while gaming. I'm liking the N7... alot.
This thread is about me sharing my experience with others. I don't understand why everyone is negative Nancy in here.
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My first three days with the device I didn't think it was a big deal, what's the fuss all about. But I haven't put it down since. I just love to pick it up and use it.
At first I thought it was just basically a big Galaxy Nexus (it really is) but that extra screen space sure is nice. Anyway dude, give it some time and if your anything like me you will get a lot of use out of it.
Really?! It's like everyone's getting upset because you basically said the N7 isn't 100% perfect. I just ordered a Nexus 7 a few hours ago, so I appreciate the post. I'll be the first to NOT bust your balls ( leave that to the old lady right? )
I'm glad you mentioned the sorta phone UI...every time I look at the home screen I cringe, and I was wondering what was up with it. I didn't really plan on running the stock launcher much, but I had no idea it was portrait only ( wtf? ) now I KNOW I'll never use it. Thanks for thoughts.
Jesus Christ.... How come there are so many haters in XDA nowadays?
OP have an opinion...and his info on rooting with Windows 8 is great.
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How is rooting a nightmare
Adb reboot bootloader
Fastboot oem unlock
Fastboot flash recovery xxx.tar
Adb push su.zip /sdcard/
Adb reboot recovery
How hard is that?
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Don't know what your problem is.
For the price there is nothing to complain about whatsoever.
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WOW, rooting was hard?
If that was really the case, you really shouldn't bother. Some people shouldn't have root.
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Dude, you've had it for ONE DAY.
Give it a week and let us know if you have put it down yet.
Talk to us then.
Thank You.
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Jesus Christ.... How come there are so many haters in XDA nowadays?
OP have an opinion...and his info on rooting with Windows 8 is great.
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That's cause there are lots of children on xda and they act weird when it's past their bed time.
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Apologies for the rant folks but I need to get this off my chest!
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Google needs to fix the Nexus 4 bugs fast
My state-of-the-art Nexus 4 phone has some major issues that aren't just frustrating - they're embarrassing. The camera will often stop working, especially when used in low light or after taking lots of pictures. I was out for a Christmas dinner with friends last night and we asked the waitress to take a picture of the group. I handed her my phone and ended up red-faced because the bloody camera wouldn't work. I also had the camera freeze with the flash still lit up on numerous occasions last night. How the hell did this get through testing? This isn't a one-off - it happens *every* time I try to take lots of pictures. I expect the camera to work.
Can you imagine the furore if the camera on an iPhone did this? People would be foaming at the mouth.
And the camera quality is pretty poor with many shots out of focus and terrible red-eye on others (with no red-eye reduction mode available) and none of the fancy new image filters can fix it. Yet I'm pretty sure ICS had a red-eye reduction filter.
And I also have a WiFi issue which means my connection speed will drop from 40MB to around 2MB for no reason. I have to toggle WiFi off/on to clear it. Rumour is that it's a problem with the WPA2 encryption used by some routers but I have yet to prove this myself and all our other devices are fine, my Nexus 7 included.
And this morning the phone rang and I couldn't answer the call because the buttons on the incoming call screen simply didn't work. It was charging at the time which I expect is the issue but even so...
In my humble opinion Google needs to get a 4.2.2 update out that addresses issues like this quickly because right now I am seriously considering selling this device and getting something else.
I am not your beta-tester Google. This just isn't good enough.
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I feel better now. Sorry if this thread sounds a little selfish but I expected so much more from a Nexus device. My 2011 Xperia arc S might of been a bit laggy but at least it was 100% reliable.
Well then return it.. or maybe learn how to use it first.
Personally I don't have any of these issues.
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I no issues with my camera from Christmas dinner last night either, from 3 to 8:30pm EST I was snapping away.
No wifi issues here either.
Either yours is broken or some crap app is causing the issue.
Had the camera thing happen to me yesterday. Also have a screen bug that makes part of the screen disappear.
Buy I consider these android problem's which can be fixed. Not Nexus 4 problems.
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OP should re-flash the stock ROM. If his issues continue, I'd RMA the device.
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My state-of-the-art Nexus 4 phone .
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It's $350, who said it's state of the art?
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It's $350, who said it's state of the art?
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That's just the price. The actual specs could be considered state of the art.
I'm not sure why the 350 price tag seems to give people a sense of cheapness. This is what a high end phone should sell for. Instead companies **** all over the little people of the world by inflating the price by 300% and lots of times more. Google is merely just sticking it back to those companies and also marketing their ecosystem...
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Apologies for the rant folks but I need to get this off my chest!
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Google needs to fix the Nexus 4 bugs fast
My state-of-the-art Nexus 4 phone has some major issues that aren't just frustrating - they're embarrassing. The camera will often stop working, especially when used in low light or after taking lots of pictures. I was out for a Christmas dinner with friends last night and we asked the waitress to take a picture of the group. I handed her my phone and ended up red-faced because the bloody camera wouldn't work. I also had the camera freeze with the flash still lit up on numerous occasions last night. How the hell did this get through testing? This isn't a one-off - it happens *every* time I try to take lots of pictures. I expect the camera to work.
Can you imagine the furore if the camera on an iPhone did this? People would be foaming at the mouth.
And the camera quality is pretty poor with many shots out of focus and terrible red-eye on others (with no red-eye reduction mode available) and none of the fancy new image filters can fix it. Yet I'm pretty sure ICS had a red-eye reduction filter.
And I also have a WiFi issue which means my connection speed will drop from 40MB to around 2MB for no reason. I have to toggle WiFi off/on to clear it. Rumour is that it's a problem with the WPA2 encryption used by some routers but I have yet to prove this myself and all our other devices are fine, my Nexus 7 included.
And this morning the phone rang and I couldn't answer the call because the buttons on the incoming call screen simply didn't work. It was charging at the time which I expect is the issue but even so...
In my humble opinion Google needs to get a 4.2.2 update out that addresses issues like this quickly because right now I am seriously considering selling this device and getting something else.
I am not your beta-tester Google. This just isn't good enough.
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I feel better now. Sorry if this thread sounds a little selfish but I expected so much more from a Nexus device. My 2011 Xperia arc S might of been a bit laggy but at least it was 100% reliable.
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U should reflash stock nexus 4 IMG from Google.. Definitely something wrong with software department in ur phone.. Probably because of ota updates
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It's $350, who said it's state of the art?
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Google says(look at the specs of the phone)... BTW I use the crap out of my N4 camera and have not had these problems. Also I leave mine plugged inost of the day at work (I'm in a vehicle) and have never had an issue with answering. Id RMA it but it up to u if u wanna wait and see if 4.2.2 fixes these issues. I would have though 4.2.2 would be out by now but oh well.
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did you put in a custom rom?
The camera bug is well documented as are the WiFi problems. This is not just an issue with my device. I'm on stock 4.2.1 fwiw. Maybe a reflash is worth a try but I doubt it.
Funny how when anyone dares to criticise this device people get all defensive though!
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If they are well documeneted why didn't you mention it in op and why don't you get a replacement ?
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Use it or lose it. To be quite honest, I don't care either way but there was no need for yet another pointless thread in this forum.
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^ yeah because this thread takes up way too much space. /sarcasm
OP: do a factory data reset and If the problem still persists return it!
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^ yeah because this thread takes up way too much space. /sarcasm
OP: do a factory data reset and If the problem still persists return it!
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Is that the point? No.
You go ahead and make pointless threads. See how long they stay unlocked for.
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I've had some times where the call and lock screen are unresponsive. Usually there is a home and back button at the bottom for seemingly no reason and I have to hit ”back" to get back to the state where I can use the lock screen.. I'm guessing this is causing the call screen to lose interactivity sometimes as well. I'm suspecting issues related to lock screen widgets/extra functionality/Google Now as none of this used to happen on previous revisions, it seemed to start when that feature set was introduced. I also accidentally bring up the camera from the lock screen which gets annoying, but that's more my fault in the way I pick the phone up sometimes if I "pry" it up when it's sitting against something. Annoying, but whatever.
I have had no camera issues specially yet, though I haven't used it extensively only occasionally.
We are all beta testers for any phone we use. How do you think they know what to change and fix for future models.
Still it sure does not seem so awful for most others.
Plus, we have no idea what apps you may be using that may be messing things up.
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Richieboy67 said:
We are all beta testers for any phone we use. How do you think they know what to change and fix for future models.
Still it sure does not seem so awful for most others.
Plus, we have no idea what apps you may be using that may be messing things up.
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He should get a Nokia as the beta test is over for Nokia's ..lol
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I totally agree with OP.
Was in Switzerland last week and the camera also decided to stop working, flash would stay on, screen wouldn't turn off and it was boiling.
Turned it on and off but during those 2 days happened more then once.
It was embarrassing because I was telling my family how good this phone was but they just laughed at me. Everyone one else has an iPhone even the kids (3 iPads, 4 iPhone, 2 imacs)
So difficult to get one so might sell mine. I want a phone that works and I am not spending my money to do beta tests.
Ps. This is my second one and I we are not even talking about the rattle and the buzzing
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OK I have a birthday tomorrow and as a present I am moving on to the Galaxy SII (yes, it's FINALLY my turn to say that!). $199 was too good to refuse, especially with 4 flexpays of $50. Two years of battling the Exhibit are enough, wouldn't you say? Anyway I will miss the forum around here a bit, even though we've had a number of departures over the past year. If it wasn't for the good folks in this community the Exhibit would have been retired LONG ago for me. Frankly without a custom ROM/kernel it is a POS device. No other way to put it! At least we have one or two new guys on the block to carry on for those who still have this phone or just got it. I wish them luck. As for myself I can't wait to try all the things that are available on XDA for this device. Hope I don't flash more ROMs than I did for the Exhibit or I will have no life left, LOL.
Anyway for those who are interested, go here for the deal: http://www.hsn.com/products/samsung-galaxy-sii-no-contract-smartphone-t-mobile/7334966
A couple months they ran out and just now got these phones back in stock. At that price I bet they don't have them for long.
Good deal. Glad you are getting something you want, it'll be sad to see you go. You've always been helpful, and generously shared your experience with testing and results. So for that thank you.
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Artful!!! I know I will miss having you around, that is a good deal, if they have them on pay day my wife will be very happy Lol. She's still on the S1
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tazmaniondvl said:
Artful!!! I know I will miss having you around, that is a good deal, if they have them on pay day my wife will be very happy Lol. She's still on the S1
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Thanks man. Unfortunately HSN just raised the price back up to $249, same as they have it on Amazon. Man glad I didn't procrastinate anymore like I always do. Funny thing is I watched the video presentation they did on TV and I'm thinking how many more they could sell if they promoted the fact you can root & get the latest ROMs out there. Of course if they did that people would know they can get rid of that bloatware! Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.
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Thanks man. Unfortunately HSN just raised the price back up to $249, same as they have it on Amazon. Man glad I didn't procrastinate anymore like I always do. Funny thing is I watched the video presentation they did on TV and I'm thinking how many more they could sell if they promoted the fact you can root & get the latest ROMs out there. Of course if they did that people would know they can get rid of that bloatware! Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.
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I think that rooting is beyond the scope of most people's interest. As it also voids any warranty, the manufacturer would be slightly against HSN promoting the practice, is my guess.
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I think that rooting is beyond the scope of most people's interest. As it also voids any warranty, the manufacturer would be slightly against HSN promoting the practice, is my guess.
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Oh yeah, sure that's part of it too. Sadly you're right, most people probably wouldn't want to make effort to make their phone better than it is. Too much thinking involved!
Which is good for me, as it means phones which have already been rooted sell for less on eBay. Saving me money and hassle.
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Just think of the poor sheep who will just keep stock ICS on it.
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It probably comes with stock 4.1.2.
I don't think you are going to be disappointed. It is an awesome phone still.
If I had one I'd root it and get CyanogenMod
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It probably comes with stock 4.1.2.
I don't think you are going to be disappointed. It is an awesome phone still.
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They said 4.0 on the commercial and on the website. A friend of mine has one and it has ICS on it. No matter because it will be rooted and updated when I get it. Question will be whether or not to go with a 4.2.2 rom or KitKat. So many apps need to catch up to ART and the whole 4.4 OS system.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Exhibit running AOIP.
Yes. There still needs to be some development before I move to 4.0. I'm very interested, once the system had been around a bit. I don't usually get the x.0 version of any software. To many issues.
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Sorry. 4.4.... Brain fart.
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S2 has arrived
Well the phone is finally here so it's goodbye to the Exhibit! Thanks to so many who made the Exhibit a tolerable phone and were a pleasure to have banter/discussions with here in the Exhibit forum. Shout outs and thank you's to @camcory, @jocala, @Tim1928, @smartguy044, @bpear96, @detett, @tazmaniondvl, @meekwrb, @Dvarl, @CoolLoL1999, @[email protected], @jrleathers, @Bloodflame (aka "Flames of Blood"), @afwolfpacked (aka "Airwolf"), @cars1189, and @Jaws4God. @jfbs good luck to you, you will be the last salvation for this phone. @Proud2banoob good luck in learning the ropes!
BTW if I forgot somebody it wasn't on purpose. Now on to the hard work of rooting and finding a ROM for the new phone. Hopefully I will settle on one or two but if my experience with the Exhibit showed anything it was a penchant for being a fairweather ROM user!:laugh: I may stop by here every now and then too, afterall I haven't given the Exhibit away to anybody yet.
Lastly if it was one thing I got out of using this phone, it was to appreciate a really good phone once I got it.
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Lastly if it was one thing I got out of using this phone, it was to appreciate a really good phone once I got it.
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hah hah! Congrats sir on the new phone.
I went ahead and plunked some coin for a Nexus 5. It has some sound bugs (some sound is fine with some apps and not others) and the vibration isn't as strong on key presses (but in other areas is fine and a tester app I found shows the vibration motor is fine). Meh, the speed just kicks butt! Also, having 2G of RAM is ..... awesome. The quad core ... anyway .. you get the idea.
I am still thinking of which ROM to put on ... I had cyanogenmod on my other phone and I loved it ... but they're not quite ready.
Take care and thanks for writing man!
-pablo
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hah hah! Congrats sir on the new phone.
I went ahead and plunked some coin for a Nexus 5. It has some sound bugs (some sound is fine with some apps and not others) and the vibration isn't as strong on key presses (but in other areas is fine and a tester app I found shows the vibration motor is fine). Meh, the speed just kicks butt! Also, having 2G of RAM is ..... awesome. The quad core ... anyway .. you get the idea.
I am still thinking of which ROM to put on ... I had cyanogenmod on my other phone and I loved it ... but they're not quite ready.
Take care and thanks for writing man!
-pablo
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Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.
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Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.
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I still have that little phone ... my oldest boy has it and the RebelROM runs mostly well .... same as wifey.
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Ah c'mon, you know you want to sell that Nexus and go back to the Exhibit along with some RebelROM! LOL.
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Augh! RebelROM!!! I'm having a PTSD flashback! AD, it was good to work with you. You taught me a lot. Good luck. I will try to nab one of those Galaxy Lights to use as a DD, so i can keep playing with the Exhibit. It's a solid little phone and good learning tool. I wish you all the best and don't forget us!
I know I haven't been active in the exhibit community . But I'm glad you guys enjoyed RebelRom so much . Enjoy your nexus 5!
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I know I haven't been active in the exhibit community . But I'm glad you guys enjoyed RebelRom so much . Enjoy your nexus 5!
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It's really good to hear from you man, and yes RebelROM was hands down the best GB ROM this phone ever had. People here can testify how many times I went back to it every time I got frustrated with one of the ICS ROMs back in the day.
Lol I just came back from rebel Lol, ran great but I sure did miss all the features of newer ROMs. But I like that galaxy light as well quad core with 1gb ram sounds a ton better then this lol
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@ArtfulDodger...
Man, I'm gonna miss seeing you around here because I don't say much and when things got a little quiet , you were still there, keeping the ball rolling. Everything ends at some point and I'm just waiting for the day this place turns into a ghost town. At least some awesome devs left us in a pretty.good spot. Also, thanks for all your help as you were part of making this phone great as well.
Good luck fellow Kentuckian!
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ive been with XDA a while now and it keeps me off the streets and away from drugs and alcohol. I have had the Infuse, Note 1 and now the Mega 6.3.
I have rooted and flashed more times than I can count, even if I take my shoes off, except for the Mega. (stooped bootloader)
having a few minor issues with my Mega and have been given the option to trade in. even with its issues, I love the real estate of 6.3 inches. who wouldn't right?
once you feel the girthyness, a 5.? screen just doesn't cut it.
so in the store I discovered the Flex and was surprised to find out it is a 6 inch screen. that I can deal with.
I have been doing some reading here as to the satisfaction with the device. I do trust the majority of folks here on XDA and would like to solicit even more feedback. maybe some inclination as to the possible future of development here.
let her rip
I can attest to the awesomeness of the screen real estate for sure! It is a 720p screen so keep that in mind, but videos and pictures do not suffer bc of it.. I absolutely love the way it feels in hand, in pocket, and during a phone call. This is the first phone I've used that I can pinch between my shoulder and cheek, and not have someone complain because they can't hear me anymore.. The phone is only lacking in one area, IMO, and that would be the lack of integration of the screen.. The lock screen effect is cool, but I'd like to see that utilized in menus, Chrome, Google Now and the like..The battery is a damn monster, no doubt about it! I easily get two days worth of use and 6 hours screen time every charge cycle!
there is at least 5 or 6 threads just like this man; no need to start another one..
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there is at least 5 or 6 threads just like this man; no need to start another one..
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maybe so but pointless posts pointing those types of things out are just as bad...
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maybe so but pointless posts pointing those types of things out are just as bad...
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True, but wase post wasn't pointless. By pointing it out maybe next time the op will look and go hey there already a bunch of threads about this topic maybe I should post in one of then.
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I did mean to add that I love my flex. As to development it's looking like a bootloader bypass is in the near future with several devs already saying they're bringing AOSP based ROMs and I know I'll be releasing a stock based with light theme work (i.e. no more ugly grey).
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there is at least 5 or 6 threads just like this man; no need to start another one..
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I recognise your avatar from the Note threads, or was it the Infuse? Although I havent seen it in a while.
As stated, I did see and have read 2 or 3 post with the like or dislike agenda in the threads. I am also aware if the many threads that exist in the context of "what is the best rom".
The future of the development was intended to be the main question. I got the Mega in hope of a real future in development for the phone and now it is all but dead, for At&t variation that is. I was attempting to not walk down that road again.
With your experience here and a recognized face sort of speak, I tbought that your XDA experience, and others alike, might see that and offer the valued insight I seek.
But I thank you for your very predictable response.
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The Flex hasn't been out that long. With time development should pick up but who really knows. LG locked it down good and at this time we have no recovery. I'm a flash whore as well but it's nice to take a break and get other things done. lol
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I recognise your avatar from the Note threads, or was it the Infuse? Although I havent seen it in a while.
As stated, I did see and have read 2 or 3 post with the like or dislike agenda in the threads. I am also aware if the many threads that exist in the context of "what is the best rom".
The future of the development was intended to be the main question. I got the Mega in hope of a real future in development for the phone and now it is all but dead, for At&t variation that is. I was attempting to not walk down that road again.
With your experience here and a recognized face sort of speak, I tbought that your XDA experience, and others alike, might see that and offer the valued insight I seek.
But I thank you for your very predictable response.
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You didnt ask about the future of development in your OP post, so that wasn't addressed by anyone.
And, who can say what the "future" holds? At this point, we're just hoping for a custom recovery..
Your welcome for the predictable response....
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I have been doing some reading here as to the satisfaction with the device. I do trust the majority of folks here on XDA and would like to solicit even more feedback. maybe some inclination as to the possible future of development here.
let her rip
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I guess I had to quote myself
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It's an awesome phone. Like LG's software better as well. Runs smoother than my note 2 and feels better in the hand. I honestly don't think you go wrong if you decide on this phone. Best thing to do is go to a store and test it out. Worse case you have 14 days to test drive it, just need to pay the 50$ restocking fee.
Personally haven't felt the need to root this beast yet. It does amazing out of the box.
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I think I'm going to switch to the Note 3. I have a few apps that I use that don't work properly on this phone, that worked perfectly fine on my Note 2. Also I miss the physical home button. I end up hitting the onscreen home button rather than the spacebar on my Flex, and I hate that.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Flex, and I would keep it if it weren't for those issues. I think if you factor out this issues I have, its a much nicer device
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I think I'm going to switch to the Note 3. I have a few apps that I use that don't work properly on this phone, that worked perfectly fine on my Note 2. Also I miss the physical home button. I end up hitting the onscreen home button rather than the spacebar on my Flex, and I hate that.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Flex, and I would keep it if it weren't for those issues. I think if you factor out this issues I have, its a much nicer device
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Can always change around the home keys and see if that helps.
Curious as to what apps don't work. All my apps work just fine. Had a ton of them to boot.
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Tornlogic said:
I think I'm going to switch to the Note 3. I have a few apps that I use that don't work properly on this phone, that worked perfectly fine on my Note 2. Also I miss the physical home button. I end up hitting the onscreen home button rather than the spacebar on my Flex, and I hate that.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Flex, and I would keep it if it weren't for those issues. I think if you factor out this issues I have, its a much nicer device
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I hated that as well lol. There is the option to swipe the bottom row keys to the right or left. It might help some, but I found that it becomes a nuisance after a while. I was in your boots as well and did make the switch to the N3 and am happy. I miss the curve and a few small nuances of the Flex, but I don't regret switching.
Pretty sure the G2 xposed app lets you shrink the nav bar so you won't hit the button by mistake. LG needs to have that option with stock.
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ive been with XDA a while now and it keeps me off the streets and away from drugs and alcohol. I have had the Infuse, Note 1 and now the Mega 6.3.
I have rooted and flashed more times than I can count, even if I take my shoes off, except for the Mega. (stooped bootloader)
having a few minor issues with my Mega and have been given the option to trade in. even with its issues, I love the real estate of 6.3 inches. who wouldn't right?
once you feel the girthyness, a 5.? screen just doesn't cut it.
so in the store I discovered the Flex and was surprised to find out it is a 6 inch screen. that I can deal with.
I have been doing some reading here as to the satisfaction with the device. I do trust the majority of folks here on XDA and would like to solicit even more feedback. maybe some inclination as to the possible future of development here.
let her rip
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its a great phone, but its not ever going to get any development traction, youre probably better off switching to a note or a g2
Hello everybody!
Yes its been like for ever since i broke my HTC First and moved on and since then ive had an Atrix HD and now have a Red Nexus 5. Running lollipop.
But still i look back to this phone and still think this is probably the best phone ive owned. All day battery, great size and build quality, stock android. Yes development was always a minus, but still.
How is everyone doing?
PS: thinking of getting my sister an HTC First, its a pretty solid device hardware wise and she doesnt care much about software, she is using an old ipod touch and an ipad, shes tired of ios
Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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Good to see someone else converting to the Android master race > lol. I agree with the fact that the battery generally lasted all day, but the lack of speed is what caused me to want to get something better. But yeah it was a good device when I came from a MyTouch 3G and then 3 Windows Phones.
Off topic here, are you seeing any drop in battery life on the official Lollipop update on your N5 compared to an AOSP version from a few days ago?
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Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)
still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
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but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st
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still using my First and still hoping to get at least KitKat so that i can pair with android wear...
but looks like no luck and i have to change my phone soon.
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but seriously between first and Moto G, i'll get the moto G
at least you get official Lollipop support. 5 hrs SOT.
The 1st gen Moto G size is not that much bigger than the 1st
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Yes you get software support..but this isn't for me. Its for my sister and plus I'd like to get back into hacking and stuff cause with a nexus you don't really want to tinker much
russian392 said:
Haha I've converted to android since 2011 and my sister never likes apple anyways.
Miss this community so much, looks like everyone has left like Abraham and loir.
Um at first battery life was more like battery death but after a reboot and full charge I did manage to get my minimum of 4 hours screen on time. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get 5 hours.
I was thinking moto g, vs the HTC first, but I haven't found anything in it that is better than in the First. Especially for my sis who has really small hands surprisingly (she's 5 years younger but as big as me and I'm 19...)
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Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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Yeah Lloir is no longer here since he bricked his First so he just upgraded to something else. Jmz is no longer here, and I'm not sure if sun_dream is here either. I know someone was working on a CM11 port but he told me that he needed to learn more before it was going to work well enough for daily use.
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I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.
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I just hate to see such a good device "go to waste".
I also wish i could port cm11, atleast learn some how, but my only computer is my desktop at home, and internet at 700kbps is not enough to do anything except browse the web. But if internet wasnt a problem id definitely try even though i have no idea how.
CM puts so much effort into mainstream devices that will get updates anyways and never focus on forgotten devices.
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Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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Yeah and it's sad because it didn't use to be like that. It's gonna be even worse when CM12 is released because they said that if a device 1) is not owned by maintainers or 2) can't cooperate with the new security measures then they won't support it at all.
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Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.
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Oh wow...yeah thats not good so I guess only options is unofficial ports.
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Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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Yeah probably. The best part is though that the GS3 Mini and Motorola Defy have both gotten 5.0 ports.
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I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.
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I'm gonna try to contact carbon ROM and see if they could take up development here. Better than nothing.
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I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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I've never heard of Carbon ROM. Is it AOSP with added features?
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Its like a more stable version of CM with more features brought over from other Roms but its not as crazy as paranoid android or aokp
I dont want to upgrade also, I know i'll miss the design of the First if I sell it
I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.
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I agree, First is a great phone, stylish, great design and ergonomics, i will keep this phone no matter what. My daily driver is Moto X, 2013 model. I like to use my phone in one hand, never liked anything over 4.7-in screen size, have had Samsung S3, original Note, Note 2 and Note 3, traded them all, although i really liked S3 the most, couldn't live with the Notes. Htc First has become my backup phone. Previously, i used a Palm Pre Plus as my backup, but i finally traded it in.
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Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom
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Yeah totally agree. I have a nexus 5 right now and it's quite great for one handed use. But looking for a first for my mom
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So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.
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So... Is there anybody working CM on HTC first ? I guess not... It's so sad. But i still like my first.
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Not that I know of. It's strange considering getting drivers for this chip set should be a piece of cake...