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Galaxy Note Battery Life

Just got my note I was wondering if people could share their tips on how to get great battery life on the note!
any tips (even the most basic) will help all us first time Android users
So share your tips, apps, settings, etc!
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If you want to save max battery. Turn off 3G and only use 2G. Then lower brightness. Reduce frequency of app updates.
Those are the best tips. I keep brightness on auto. And I keep updates to once an hour for most things. It give me a solid day.
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Thanks!
I downloaded setCPU and have it so that the processor goes down to 800mhz when the screen is off.
I am not sure if that is helping or not though.. still struggling with battery life.

Get JuiceDefender Ultimate. It helps to automatically turn off your Data Network and your wifi whenever your not using your phone, it reopens them periodically to check for any updates on ur apps. Smart app and it has saved me x2.3 of my battery life.

thanks!
Do you think juice defender ultimate is better than setCPU?

Disable fast dormancy. *#9900# and the select disable fast dormancy and then save.
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Here are some tips for prelonging battery life:
1 - Don't use 100% screen brightness at all times - 50-60% is enough, only increase it when you need to then lower it again.
2 - If your planning to use the phone for long periods, 30 minutes or more constant use then once again use 25% or so brightness
3 - When browsing/surfing the net use the lowest possible brightness as this is the biggest battery killer. Unfortunately our AMOLED screens suck a lot of juice when displaying white...
4 - Try to keep most, if not all applications to manual updates only. Otherwise decrease the update frequency.
5 - Use an alternative launcher. I find for example using LauncherPro uses less resources/cpu/ram than the default touchwizz launcher. Therefore using less ram/cpu saves battery!
6 - If your gonna game for hours then I suggest 0% brightness!
7 - Last but least watch your apps. Some apps are poorly optimized/coded and can take up a lot of ram and cpu which then eats away at your battery!

In my case, disabling fast dormancy helps save some battery. Tough not to a big extent.

Use Screen Adjuster or Voodoo display filter to further lower screen brightness.
Install and use app that has a night mode. Eg, config opera mobile to use a user css to render white text on black background.

Hey,
Before you should know that android collects statistics on your battery in order to "learn" its behavior so within the first days of use you will see a constant improvement if you battery performance.
there are also a few apps that runs in background and has the annoying habit to drain your battery:
wifi sharing
wi-fi sharing manager
social hub
try to disable those apps using gemini app manager or titanium backup.

Thanks for the great tips. My battery lasted almost 19 hours ever since I did everything everyone has mentioned!
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uneek14 said:
Thanks!
I downloaded setCPU and have it so that the processor goes down to 800mhz when the screen is off.
I am not sure if that is helping or not though.. still struggling with battery life.
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Capping the max CPU speed does not help battery life.
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this will also help you understand battery life
http://batteryuniversity.com/

Gary13579 said:
Capping the max CPU speed does not help battery life.
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How so? I've heard some people on YouTube say they save battery this way..it was the only reason I downloaded setCPU...what are your thoughts?
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When screen is off, the cpu frequency is reduced anyway. Thats the advantage of sleep.
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bud.de said:
When screen is off, the cpu frequency is reduced anyway. Thats the advantage of sleep.
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How much is it reduced to?

kanej2006 said:
How much is it reduced to?
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Just enough to receive calls, sms, messages, etc. What was it, 200mhz?

uneek14 said:
How so? I've heard some people on YouTube say they save battery this way..it was the only reason I downloaded setCPU...what are your thoughts?
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YouTube is in no way a reliable source of information when it comes to technology. Unfortunately, neither are these forums, as witnessed by the masses of people that consistently state underclocking saves battery. I've posted about this several times before, and it seems no one ever listens or trusts me, so I'll try to lay it out as simple as I can. This effect is very well known by old school Linux nerds that would push their notebooks to get longer battery lives. Intel calls this effect HUGI -- Hurry Up and Get Idle. It essentially states that the faster a CPU runs, the more energy it consumes, but it *also* finishes it's work faster. Finishing work faster is important as it means that the CPU can go back to it's "Idle" state faster. The idle (or sleep) state uses virtually zero energy. Let me see if I can pull up the voltage table for a phone... here, found this for the Sprint Nexus S 4G and it looks to be accurate based off my memory of the CPU.
1000mhz - 1.25v
800mhz - 1.20v
400mhz - 1.05v
200mhz - 0.95v
100mhz - 0.95v
Now, let's say we have a task that takes 10 seconds to complete at 1000 MHz. 10 seconds times 1.25v is 12.5v (I know, I know, voltage doesn't work this way -- but it's a good enough approximation to demonstrate this effect (and it's to scale!) and I'm too tired to explain volt vs amp vs watt, it's 5am here). At 100 MHz, though, the *same exact task* would take 100 seconds! 100 seconds times 0.95v is, wow, 95v! By capping your CPU to 100 MHz (10% of max), you are effectively using (95/12.5=) 660% more energy to do the same task.
Now, there are scenarios where underclocking can help you, such as when your phones CPU is running at 100% 24/7 because of ****ty applications or leaked wakelocks. Although underclocking does appear to somewhat fix this, it's a complete ****ing hack and won't give you anywhere near the amount of battery life that you'd get by uninstalling the ****ty app and letting your phone go to sleep.
Make sense?
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Wow! Thanks! yeah it does make sense! I guess I should uninstall setCPU...I'm not sure what else its used for
thanks again
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zkyevolved said:
Just enough to receive calls, sms, messages, etc. What was it, 200mhz?
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That's great, a very efficient way to save battery...
So it's basically like a modern pc running a core i5/i7 that runs at 2.5GHz when idle or when no power is needed. However when power is needed the intel Turbo boost kicks in & increases clock speed to 4.2GHz or even higher depending on what the user set it to.
In my case my PC cpu idles at 3.4GHz & when gaming or video editing it boosts to 4.7GHZ which I've manually set it to.

Overclocking the Nexus 4 - Benchmark of application load time = BIG difference

A lot of people say that overclocking the Nexus 4 is useless as it's so fast to begin with, but that turns out to be false, yes, it's useless for making e.g. games run smoother, as they all already do, but it's very useful for reducing loading times, and it turns out that the % of time saved is close to the % of increased clock speed.
My setup: Nexus 4, franco.Kernel updater v9.3.3, Franco Kernel #666, Jelly Bean 4.2.2 JDQ39, Governor Interactive. Angry pigs HD 1.1.0 app loading. Fresh reboot for each speed. I did three measurements for each clock speed and left voltages at Franco's defaults. I would suggest looking into the undervolting threads to figure out how low you can go with voltages, undervolting is good underclocking is usually not.
1026 Mhz 1025mV default Franco
15.4s
15.9s
15.7s
1512 MHz 1150 mV default Franco
11.5s
11.3s
11.3s
1620 MHz 1175mV default Franco
11.1s
10.6s
10.6s
1674 MHz 1175mV default Franco
10.3s
10.6s
10.7s
1728 MHz 1200mV default Franco
10.5s
10.3s
10.3s
Conclusion
12.5% faster clock speed = 8.85% faster load time, which means increasing clock speed is 70% effective at reducing load time going from 1512 Mhz and upwards.
40% faster clock speed = 35% faster load time, meaning that people who think running their device at 1026 Mhz is as good as 1512 Mhz are wrong. Nearly doubling clock speed nearly halfens load time.
The reduction in loading time is reduced a bit as you reach higher frequencies, but it's still 70% effective so every extra Mhz helps cut down the wait. Overclocking the Nexus 4 is meaningless in terms of increasing smoothness IN APP, but meaningful in reducing load times significantly and in increasing the responsiveness of your system.

please tell me for saving the battery and still maintaining a little smoothness
the settings to use
i use faux123 kernel.. i just need the voltage,cpu clock n governer settings

so overclocking makes things faster.. really? who would have thunk. and you just found this out?

my brother uses a galaxy s3, and after using it for a few months he tried my n4... he was amused how fast things open and how smooth everything was, and it was all stock frequencies. i think it makes no sense overclocking this beast, it is already fast enough. +/- a few seconds doesnt make that much of a difference but drains the battery significantly more. just sayin'.

zakoo2 said:
my brother uses a galaxy s3, and after using it for a few months he tried my n4... he was amused how fast things open and how smooth everything was, and it was all stock frequencies. i think it makes no sense overclocking this beast, it is already fast enough. +/- a few seconds doesnt make that much of a difference but drains the battery significantly more. just sayin'.
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Sorry but little OC can help you save more battery in day to day usage. (If you are not playing only games on your phone).
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alen1901 said:
Sorry but little OC can help you save more battery in day to day usage. (If you are not playing only games on your phone).
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not according to my experiences, and i did play with oc/uc and voltage quite a bit. i always ended up going back to stock on the n4 (not on my old motodefy though) because of the drainage.

So, a 50% increase in clock cycles pushes the performance by a bit.
Who would've thought...?

well that's normal, overclocking = more power draining, more speed; just like with CPU or ram on pc, no rocket science here.

alen1901 said:
Sorry but little OC can help you save more battery in day to day usage. (If you are not playing only games on your phone).
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OC? Don't you mean Downclocking or Undervolting?

sigma392 said:
OC? Don't you mean Downclocking or Undervolting?
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Nope , also OC can (in theory) improve battery life because the CPU finishes its task faster.
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Nope , also OC can (in theory) improve battery life because the CPU finishes its task faster.
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But er... Wouldn't it would theoretically need more power and therefore generating more heat than stock frequencies which in turn will have a negative effect on battery life?

sigma392 said:
But er... Wouldn't it would theoretically need more power and therefore generating more heat than stock frequencies which in turn will have a negative effect on battery life?
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It REALLY depends. I'd say most day-to-day usage, an overclock can actually help save battery by 'racing' to sleep (hurry up, finish, drop to deep sleep on cpu AND radio). I think being on 3g makes it even more pronounced because you're letting the radio drop back down to a lower power state as well as the CPU. So if you need to quickly open an email attachment, and cpu is the limiter, it can help it finish, get off the network, and back to idle state faster and save some battery. Now if you go on running benchmarks instead where you just keep throwing more work at it that's a seriously different story. There is also a point of diminishing returns (usually 1 or 2 steps before the absolute limit, in our case about 1670mhz) but in general, a moderate overclock can help.

sigma392 said:
But er... Wouldn't it would theoretically need more power and therefore generating more heat than stock frequencies which in turn will have a negative effect on battery life?
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I agree with u, but remember its a theory.. U finish faster so the time it uses more power is less....
^^Look at the post above me, he got a good example^^
The best of both worlds (if your phone is capable to do this) is when u UV and OC. U would use less power on a higher frequency. Win-win in theory.
But I know what u mean and its hard to believe, but I think that's what @alan1901 wanted to say.
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If you are lucky, you can overclock using STOCK voltage for the maximum clock.
IE, i see many undervolting their phones by alot. I would just try 1150mV (default voltage for 1.5ghz) for your highest speed (OC as high as you can with this voltage), which means you are not using more power, but still making your phone faster.
Haven't tried on mine, but say 1.6-1.7ghz should be possible with 1150mV for a few at least.

No, 50% OC is not = 50% reduced load time
Let me summarize:
OVERCLOCKING > UNDERCLOCKING FOR THE AVERAGE (POWER) USER
You load a lot of apps, you don't play games or watch videos for hours, productivity is your focus. Depending on use you could save probably 1 - 6 hours a year (see assumptions below). Battery gains won't be significant, but spending less time with the LCD/Wifi etc on could give you some gains as the CPU is one of the lower power drain components.
UNDERCLOCKING > OVERCLOCKING FOR THE 3D GAMER
You spent a lot of time playing CPU intensive games, keeping the CPU cores at max clock speed for extended periods of time. In that case you could get some battery life gains at the cost of responsiveness and app loading times - your call.
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UNDERCLOCKING + UNDERVOLTING PROs/CONs
+ Reduces CPU temperature, if that matters to you.
+ IF keeping the CPU at max clock speed for extended periods of time, a lower max voltage could give you enough extra battery life to negate the time lost waiting for apps to load - your call.
- Increased load times - even on the Nexus 4 a lot of apps take > 10 seconds to launch, and don't forget in-app load times, reboots etc.
- No significant battery saving in most cases, potential for loss (if doing a lot of app loading you could even get worse battery life as the screen, wifi etc has to stay on for longer, and the screen is the main battery drain).
- Time spent finding stable voltages.
OVERCLOCKING PROs and CONs
+ Potential small battery life gain, as your device spends less time with the screen/wifi etc ON.
++ SAVES YOU TIME. I'm estimating 1 - 5 hours a year depending on usage.
- Times spent finding stable voltages and clock speeds.
-/- Apps does not RUN smoother.
Why 50% CPU does not = 50% reduced load time and why you test things
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It'd be more like 40-30% depending on relative clock speed. I did a simple test as we did NOT know that app loading was mainly CPU limited, could have been memory. And If load times didn't go down there wouldn't be ANY reason to OC and underclocking would be a good idea.
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Say that you're on average waiting 4 minutes a day waiting for apps to load, rebooting your phone, waiting for web pages to load, waiting for in-app content to load etc.
Overclocking can cut down that wait time up to 10%, that's nearly 1/2 a minute saved every day, 3 1/2 minutes a week, 3 hours a year. This means you can get a good return on the time it took you to overclock your device, assuming you'll keep it for a couple of years. So if that's the case, why not do it? You'll save some time and you'll enjoy using your device a bit more.
Currently I'm OCd at max 1674 Mhz @ 1225mV, otherwise using default Franco voltages and interactive governor. Stable and very snappy Might be able to reduce voltage and retain stability but this is fine.

zakoo2 said:
not according to my experiences, and i did play with oc/uc and voltage quite a bit. i always ended up going back to stock on the n4 (not on my old motodefy though) because of the drainage.
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OC? Don't you mean Downclocking or Undervolting?
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I said little OC. Example. Stock cpu clock is 1000mhz and 1000mv. Now, you OC your phone to 1200,1300mhz without changing voltage, or by increasing it a little bit(+25, +50mv, to make phone stable), it will use higher cpu frequency with the same voltage like on lower frequency or with a little higher voltage. So it would finish tasks faster, going to idle faster without getting any heat and give you more battery. On my nexus s and galaxy s3, galaxy s2, i tested it, and it helped (about 30min more screen on time for me). But if you play games a lot and doing some heavy tasks then underclock and undervolt are best for you. But on that beast of phone, i woldnt underclock it beyond 1.2, 1.3, not sure what frequencies are there. If you UC that phone a lot, you can easyly go with some weaker phone.
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is there any kernel that can overclock with 4.3?

Andre_Vitto said:
is there any kernel that can overclock with 4.3?
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yes, most of them. some even overclock up to 2052mhz :victory:

simms22 said:
yes, most of them. some even overclock up to 2052mhz :victory:
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like?

Check the Development sections.
This thread makes my head hurt.

Question regarding total amount of active CPU cores..

I did some checking in the .sh files, inside the /system/etc folder, and found inside the set_governor.sh that the Z1 is pre-configured to keeping all 4 CPU cores online at the same time. For performance reasons it seems..
Should I delete every line that is related to total amount of online / active cores so the kernel can decide and take care about that by itself or should I echo 0 the amount of cores that I want to be in sleep / idle mode?
I am tweaking my brand new Z1 for even more battery life, that's why I am asking this question!

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I did some checking in the .sh files, inside the /system/etc folder, and found inside the set_governor.sh that the Z1 is pre-configured to keeping all 4 CPU cores online at the same time. For performance reasons it seems..
Should I delete every line that is related to total amount of online / active cores so the kernel can decide and take care about that by itself or should I echo 0 the amount of cores that I want to be in sleep / idle mode?
I am tweaking my brand new Z1 for even more battery life, that's why I am asking this question!
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All four cores are not online at the same time all the time. At idle, only 1 core is active at min frequency 300 mhz, the other cores come online when there is demand for them. Disabling cores has never helped improve battery life in my experience, merely causing slow downs and resulting in the CPU taking longer to complete processing, using up precious power before it's able to return to min frequency.
(My limited knowledge)

tomascus said:
All four cores are not online at the same time all the time. At idle, only 1 core is active at min frequency 300 mhz, the other cores come online when there is demand for them. Disabling cores has never helped improve battery life in my experience, merely causing slow downs and resulting in the CPU taking longer to complete processing, using up precious power before it's able to return to min frequency.
(My limited knowledge)
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If this is the case - why does kernel modules like ECO-Mode exist that shuts down two cores and converts the phone into an DC one?
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If this is the case - why does kernel modules like ECO-Mode exist that shuts down two cores and converts the phone into an DC one?
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Eco mode? Never heard of it. Don't know anything that makes the Xperia Z1 go dualcore mode, might want to show me a link?
Ps. Tried underclocking with fauxclock or trickstermod?
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Why would anyone want to lower speed or nr of cores active on a beast like this? Go buy an older phone if u want a slower one lol. It uses the power it needs to complete the tasks it is asked to do unless u got some crap laying in the background draining your battery that way.

McT1980 said:
Why would anyone want to lower speed or nr of cores active on a beast like this? Go buy an older phone if u want a slower one lol. It uses the power it needs to complete the tasks it is asked to do unless u got some crap laying in the background draining your battery that way.
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This have nothing to do with get a slow device. This probably will help avoid battery drain and without a few test no body can said it will not work.

eclyptos said:
This have nothing to do with get a slow device. This probably will help avoid battery drain and without a few test no body can said it will not work.
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What battery drain are you referring to? When people talk about battery drain they usually mean when screen is of and they usually got some crap running in the background. I can get 2-3 days of moderate usage running dooms kernel and that's not bad.

McT1980 said:
What battery drain are you referring to? When people talk about battery drain they usually mean when screen is of and they usually got some crap running in the background. I can get 2-3 days of moderate usage running dooms kernel and that's not bad.
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Any core need energy, trying to switch them off when not needed can only improve battery standby. This is not the solution for the battery, this is one of many. We know that the crap running in background it's another reason and the screen too. Here we considering only the CPU.

eclyptos said:
Any core need energy, trying to switch them off when not needed can only improve battery standby. This is not the solution for the battery, this is one of many. We know that the crap running in background it's another reason and the screen too. Here we considering only the CPU.
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Agreed, but it would surprise me if the phone runs at 4x300mhz when the screen is of. 1 core is enough and i've seen several posts saying that it runs with 1 when the screen is of. If it runs at 4 however,yeah you could save some juice by disabling cores.

Battery life and CPU

Although this might seem as a question. It really isnt.
What kind of battery life do you get on the First? Screenshots would be nice, but what is like the max time and min time you got and what kind of setting do you use, voltage, clock speed, usage etc.
Also has anyone been using the MSM-DCVS (dynamic clock and voltage scaling) CPU Governer? And if yes then have you gotten better battery life? I will do a test tomorrow and see how it goes.
My best stats.
Well before i got into cpu governors, by default the phone uses on-demand and i could max out 14 hours with variable usage. screen on maybe 50% of the time the phone was on and minimal gaming. texting. I dont have data so that didnt take any battery (i hear 4g and 3g take away lots of juice, is that true?).

Okay. So just did a quick test with msm-dcvs.
Basically for 5 minutes I tested each governed doing the same stuff.
Msm-dcvs utilizes deep sleep ALOT more. Almost 8 times more than on demand. And doesn't really use anything in between. So it goes from deep sleep to minimum 300mhz to get it going and then jumps to the max of 1.4ghz and if the screen is on it uses 700mhz.
So using deep sleep it saves batter.
On demand on the other hand tends to use 300mhz instead of deep sleep. It also jumps around a lot between all the various clock speeds using just about anything it can. So i guess on demand will get worse battery life but I will report my findings in a few hours seeing bow battery life goes with dcvs.
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Just a quick update. On demand is crap. Performance is really good and dcvs is performance just more intelligent
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My battery life is crap. I've tried to adjust clock speed & voltage but I don't believe JMZ's latest kernel supports it and I'm never able to get any governors besides stock to stick

abrahammmmmmm_ said:
My battery life is crap. I've tried to adjust clock speed & voltage but I don't believe JMZ's latest kernel supports it and I'm never able to get any governors besides stock to stick
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Use performance. It has a really fast "rave-to-idle" speed. This means that the phone will finish tasks faster and go to idle/deep sleep. So it should save you batter. Unless you don't mind lag and use msm-dcvs which is performance just it takes time to ramp up the speed.
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russian392 said:
Use performance. It has a really fast "rave-to-idle" speed. This means that the phone will finish tasks faster and go to idle/deep sleep. So it should save you batter. Unless you don't mind lag and use msm-dcvs which is performance just it takes time to ramp up the speed.
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What app do you use for this? All the ones I've tried don't make any custom settings stick

abrahammmmmmm_ said:
What app do you use for this? All the ones I've tried don't make any custom settings stick
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CPU master by antutu. I've always used it. Best one there is
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CPU master by antutu. I've always used it. Best one there is
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Alright I'll try the app. BTW I'm pretty sure 918mhz isn't the stock minimum... Must explain my horrible battery. What do you have yours on?
Edit: so far so good. I'm feeling some better battery life even tho it might just be a placebo effect I know that the CPU will have less strain & rest more now that the minimum is at 384. And few more questions, what do you have set for your I/O scheduler and also did you configure the voltage?

It's important for battery life, that the phone goes into deep sleep while screen is off. Use this app to test whether thats the case: BetterBatteryStats
Also you can see which process "wakes up" the phone while it should sleep.
My First normaly runs about 2 days without charging. So battery is pretty good!
PS: I'm using deodexed rom with stock kernel.

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It's important for battery life, that the phone goes into deep sleep while screen is off. Use this app to test whether thats the case: BetterBatteryStats
Also you can see which process "wakes up" the phone while it should sleep.
My First normaly runs about 2 days without charging. So battery is pretty good!
PS: I'm using deodexed rom with stock kernel.
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Wow that's great battery life.
I'm yet to test dcvs in my first and see how long that lasts me. I have Wi-Fi on all day. So I can get up to 14 hours max.
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abrahammmmmmm_ said:
Alright I'll try the app. BTW I'm pretty sure 918mhz isn't the stock minimum... Must explain my horrible battery. What do you have yours on?
Edit: so far so good. I'm feeling some better battery life even tho it might just be a placebo effect I know that the CPU will have less strain & rest more now that the minimum is at 384. And few more questions, what do you have set for your I/O scheduler and also did you configure the voltage?
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No I have yet to figure out io bit tinkering with voltage isn't a good idea since the battery is specifically set to a voltage the phone needs.
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Okay I have some new findings. Idk about the custom kernel...bit with stock you only get 3 I/o schedulers. Noop, deadline, and cfq. Noop is first come first serve. Deadline reorders the task sequence and does what it thinks should come first...good for like gaming. And cfq. Which evenly distributes the power amongst all tasks. If you are using cfq make sure you kill unused tasks all the time. If you use a lot of things on your phone and multitask a lot use deadline. Noop is pointless unless you don't use your phone for anything. And cfq is just an alternative to deadline. So I/o won help much.
Then in CPU master. Go to advanced. And press "disable perflock". It will explain what it does. Hit set on boot. And reset you clock settings. Now we shall see what we get.
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Okay guys. I used deadline to see if that would change anything. With the same dcvs setting with deadline I got 15% batter down in 2 hours. That's pretty good. That's 7.5% an hour.
And this is with screen on and wifi on about 70% of the time.
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Okay this is my final say on how to get the most out of your battery life.
There are two set ups
1. Lag free/ smooth set up
Min 384mhz, Max 1080mhz
Governer: Performance
i/o Scheduler: Deadline
-This set up will save battery why? Because 1. You don not need your max 1.4 ghz to keep the phone running lag free, and in performance mode, the phone is LOCKED into 1.4ghz until you dim the screen and it goes into deep sleep. no inbetween. So clocking down will help save EVEN MORE battery. So unlike dcvs you will not have lag when you turn your screen on. It will jump from zero to 1ghz in a few milliseconds.
2. Inteligent
Min: 432mhz, Max 1.4ghz (default max. Dont over clock)
Governer: MSM-DCVS
i/o Scheduler: CFQ
-This set up will save battery, i go down about 1% every 6-20 minutes depending on usage. (6 being max usage and 20 meaning iddle). Once you turn the screen on your device will lag slightly and then will work just fine. This set up is good for those people who dont ALWAYS need max performance. Example: Reading an email doesnt require your phone to be locked at max frequency all the time so it will down clock the device. It simply takes time for it to rev the engine.
3. On Demand
Well this is simply absoule minimum to absolute maximum with NOOP as the i/o. This is the ultimate ondemand set up as it will do what you are currently doing first then do the rest while constantly changing clock speed.
Also...btw changing clock speed takes battery that is why performance saves batter not uses it. Its either deep sleep or max and thats it.
I will add screenshots to this soon once im done with all my tests.

Battery life today on msm-dcvs
I should be at 30% right now bit pretty good battery tight now
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Tried today MSM-DCVS scheduler on my stock rooted firmware. Don't like it. Lags a lot when screen on (and CPU at max 1.4Ghz). And i do not see any significant battery improvements, instead it seems that it takes longer time for phone to do background tasks like mail checking etc.
Concerning battery life - in general I receive 3-3.5 hours of screen time. And it can be 1 day to 3. It all depends on usage, but screen on time never goes above 4 hours.
In attached file - Stats for my phone while traveling from the U.S. to Russia. As you can see, delivery does not take very much time And in standby mode phone can last almost two weeks (with wi-fi and nfc on).

Hulo_ said:
Tried today MSM-DCVS scheduler on my stock rooted firmware. Don't like it. Lags a lot when screen on (and CPU at max 1.4Ghz). And i do not see any significant battery improvements, instead it seems that it takes longer time for phone to do background tasks like mail checking etc.
Concerning battery life - in general I receive 3-3.5 hours of screen time. And it can be 1 day to 3. It all depends on usage, but screen on time never goes above 4 hours.
In attached file - Stats for my phone while traveling from the U.S. to Russia. As you can see, delivery does not take very much time And in standby mode phone can last almost two weeks (with wi-fi and nfc on).
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Personaly i dont have NFC or 4g on at any time. 1. i dont have data and 2. i dont use nfc cause the so called "modern world" is still stuc on stupid apple devices.
I noticed the following issues with managing the cpu
1. When setting cpu clock speed, after about 5 seconds after you left the app it changes the clock speed back to how it was
FIX: in cpu master (or the app of your choice) go to advanced and turn perflock off. then go to the cpu settings and set the speed you want. you must do that every time though cause of the htc kernel
2. MSM-DCVS lags.
FIX: set your minimum to 450-500 mhz
3. 4g drains batter (or so i hear)
FIX: idk yet but if someone could show me their battery life with 4g on and normal daily usage i could try to figure something out.
Hulo. Try this set up
Performance, 300mhz - 1080mhz, deadline
IDK my phone syncs things quite well and lag isnt a big issue for me, i can deal with it because my old phone overclocked is 700mhz so lag isnt anything new to me. So i just notch up the minimum to reduce it.
MSM-DCVS saves batter when screen is off and when screen is on but idle. playing games or actively using the screen will drain battery no matter what setting you use. This is made for people who are constantly on their phones.
Performance saves battery when screen is OFF period. When screen is on its at its max. this is best used for people who dont use their phones alot.
With dcvs i got an extra 7 hours of battery life. usually i get 11. But i hear with 4g on your battery dies in about 6 hours? is that true?!

russian392 said:
Personaly i dont have NFC or 4g on at any time. 1. i dont have data and 2. i dont use nfc cause the so called "modern world" is still stuc on stupid apple devices.
I noticed the following issues with managing the cpu
1. When setting cpu clock speed, after about 5 seconds after you left the app it changes the clock speed back to how it was
FIX: in cpu master (or the app of your choice) go to advanced and turn perflock off. then go to the cpu settings and set the speed you want. you must do that every time though cause of the htc kernel
2. MSM-DCVS lags.
FIX: set your minimum to 450-500 mhz
3. 4g drains batter (or so i hear)
FIX: idk yet but if someone could show me their battery life with 4g on and normal daily usage i could try to figure something out.
Hulo. Try this set up
Performance, 300mhz - 1080mhz, deadline
IDK my phone syncs things quite well and lag isnt a big issue for me, i can deal with it because my old phone overclocked is 700mhz so lag isnt anything new to me. So i just notch up the minimum to reduce it.
MSM-DCVS saves batter when screen is off and when screen is on but idle. playing games or actively using the screen will drain battery no matter what setting you use. This is made for people who are constantly on their phones.
Performance saves battery when screen is OFF period. When screen is on its at its max. this is best used for people who dont use their phones alot.
With dcvs i got an extra 7 hours of battery life. usually i get 11. But i hear with 4g on your battery dies in about 6 hours? is that true?!
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I'd just like to add that 4g actually consumes LESS battery than 2g/3g/3.5g only LTE tho. That's because it's more optimized and advanced I've read and experienced it in many occasions

abrahammmmmmm_ said:
I'd just like to add that 4g actually consumes LESS battery than 2g/3g/3.5g only LTE tho. That's because it's more optimized and advanced I've read and experienced it in many occasions
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Alright then. Interesting. My friend on his s3 gets 6 hours of battery with 4g.
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russian392 said:
Alright then. Interesting. My friend on his s3 gets 6 hours of battery with 4g.
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I should add that the optimized battery life for LTE is only true tho for new snapdragon CPU's including Apple's processors as well. I'm not aware of tegra or any exynos at the moment.

Undervolting vs Underclocking vs Hotplugging for battery life

Can anyone explain to me what is better?
I know that underclocking reduces cpu frequency, which means lower temperatures and also better battery, but performance is worse, so it takes longer to complete tasks...but if it takes longer to complete tasks, it means it will also have screen on for a longer time right?so it saves power from the cpu, but keeping the screen on for that extra time also means it will consume extra power right?
About undervolting, is it better to undervolt or to underclock when it comes to battery life?i know that with undervolting there is less heat produced because of the reduced voltages. From what i have read (i dont know if it is correct) the power consumption is given by this equation: P = f*c*(V^2) where f is frequency, c is capacitance and v is voltage. It makes sense that reducing voltage means less heat, but if i reduce CPU frequency it also produces less heat because it reduces power. Most of the time i read that underclock is better for battery because it uses less power, but like i said earlier, it takes longer to complete tasks and in result i have to keep the screen on for a longer time.
About hotplugging, i have seen some users with good battery life screenshots, and mentioning that they disabled hotplugging, because they said that turning cores on and off also wastes energy. So is it better to hotplug or not?
would really like to get some answers because i know nothing about this..I also know that i could test each setting and and see which is better, but i dont use my phone the same way everyday so its kind of hard to determine...

Short version and after extending testing (2 cores max, -175Uv, underclocking at 1000 or 1300mHz) with different kernels and always on stock Rom,
the result was that there was no noticeable difference at the battery life with a normal setup of using of 4 cores at normal max freq of 1512mhz.
A custom kernel in comparison to the stock kernel makes more sense cause of the optimization they offer for performance and battery life.
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RASTAVIPER said:
Short version and after extending testing (2 cores max, -175Uv, underclocking at 1000 or 1300mHz) with different kernels and always on stock Rom,
the result was that there was no noticeable difference at the battery life with a normal setup of using of 4 cores at normal max freq of 1512mhz.
A custom kernel in comparison to the stock kernel makes more sense cause of the optimization they offer for performance and battery life.
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nice to have some feedback from someone that tested=p. what about hotplugging? Today i disabled hotplugging and had always 4 cores on and it does not seem to be wasting more battery than with hotplugging enabled

These studies were done by bedalus on the Nexus S, but alot pertains today. Alot of useful information here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-s/general/ref-battery-drain-benchmarks-t1478406
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n2d551 said:
These studies were done by bedalus on the Nexus S, but alot pertains today. Alot of useful information here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-s/general/ref-battery-drain-benchmarks-t1478406
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Also lot of discussion about Uv here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2137034
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n2d551 said:
These studies were done by bedalus on the Nexus S, but alot pertains today. Alot of useful information here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-s/general/ref-battery-drain-benchmarks-t1478406
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totally forgot about bedalus experiments!i had a Nexus S at the time and saw that post, but back then i didnt mess around with anything on my phone so i completely forgot=p.thanks!
The only thing he doesnt adress is hotplugging(the Nexus S was single core so he couldnt even if wanted=p). Anyone care to shed some light on hotplugging?is it really worth it or there are minimal gains?

migueldbr said:
totally forgot about bedalus experiments!i had a Nexus S at the time and saw that post, but back then i didnt mess around with anything on my phone so i completely forgot=p.thanks!
The only thing he doesnt adress is hotplugging(the Nexus S was single core so he couldnt even if wanted=p). Anyone care to shed some light on hotplugging?is it really worth it or there are minimal gains?
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There are different hotplugging methods.
The stock one as a boost feature, as soon as u touch the screen ur decvice goes to dual core 1026mhz for a couple seconds even if the load is super low.
Custom kernels have many variants on the hotplugging "style". Most of them dont have the touch boost included to save battery (but u can have the same kind of touch boost enabled by the governor, ex: franco kernel). Others simply advise u to turn off hotplugging == less calculation of the load to decide if the device needs to plug it or not + no waiting time to get the performance boost of many cores online (since all 4 are already online) + somewhat more heat since all cores are allways draining battery.
Im no expert and i hope all i said is right, at leats its what i know.
What i personally look for is:
Min core 1
Max cores 4
No touch boost (no heat while u are simply texting via sms on 2G with data and wifi OFF)
sent from my diabetic Nexus 4 (too many KitKats).

C4SCA said:
There are different hotplugging methods.
The stock one as a boost feature, as soon as u touch the screen ur decvice goes to dual core 1026mhz for a couple seconds even if the load is super low.
Custom kernels have many variants on the hotplugging "style". Most of them dont have the touch boost included to save battery (but u can have the same kind of touch boost enabled by the governor, ex: franco kernel). Others simply advise u to turn off hotplugging == less calculation of the load to decide if the device needs to plug it or not + no waiting time to get the performance boost of many cores online (since all 4 are already online) + somewhat more heat since all cores are allways draining battery.
Im no expert and i hope all i said is right, at leats its what i know.
What i personally look for is:
Min core 1
Max cores 4
No touch boost (no heat while u are simply texting via sms on 2G with data and wifi OFF)
sent from my diabetic Nexus 4 (too many KitKats).
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actually touch boost and hotplugging are different things...touch boost is a feature where as soon as you touch the screen, the cpu ramps up the frequency to the specified touch boost frequency. Hotplugging is a different thing, where cores of the cpu are turned on and off when the phone does not need them to be on all at the same time. I know that touch boost drains more battery, but i dont know about hotplugging...would like to see some tests/benchmarks, but i dont think there are any...

migueldbr said:
actually touch boost and hotplugging are different things...touch boost is a feature where as soon as you touch the screen, the cpu ramps up the frequency to the specified touch boost frequency. Hotplugging is a different thing, where cores of the cpu are turned on and off when the phone does not need them to be on all at the same time. I know that touch boost drains more battery, but i dont know about hotplugging...would like to see some tests/benchmarks, but i dont think there are any...
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Different things but on stock kernel touch boost is implemented on the hotplug and not the governor.
Any difference btw 4 cores online or hotplugging must minor, and have draw backs on heat wich affects the battery capacity.
Eventhough u can say that hotplugging may drain an amount of battery to plug and unplug cores, i would say its minor.
Talk to @simms22 , he is the "trinity kernel guy", four cores online is a must for him
sent from my diabetic Nexus 4 (too many KitKats).

From my experience, under clocking as well as running a 2 core setup doesn't change anything for the better. Most times for the worst due to a worse user experience.
Undervolting is something that, solely from the physical side, cannot make things worse (unless you under clock too much). Undervolting will make your CPU cores use less current. Less current running through an electric circuit always means less heat, too.
To put it simple:
If my regular voltage at 384mhz is 950mv and I lower the voltage to 800mv and after testing it proves to run stable my device now uses 150mv less on that frequency.
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Oxious119 said:
From my experience, under clocking as well as running a 2 core setup doesn't change anything for the better. Most times for the worst due to a worse user experience.
Undervolting is something that, solely from the physical side, cannot make things worse (unless you under clock too much). Undervolting will make your CPU cores use less current. Less current running through an electric circuit always means less heat, too.
To put it simple:
If my regular voltage at 384mhz is 950mv and I lower the voltage to 800mv and after testing it proves to run stable my device now uses 150mv less on that frequency.
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no matter what you do , its still going to be a mediocre battery life , best leave it as it is because the way nexus 4 is designed its still going to be getting annoyingly warm on games

Well, from my own experience undervolting definetly reduced heat and made the battery last longer. Don't expect 2 hours more sot, though. Its most notably while the device is idle.
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nice man
very helpful...

Help pls..
Can any1 help me undervolting Unleashed kernel.. providing tips or the link ll be vry helpfull..