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[Q] newb firmware question

I'm in the US and want to buy an unlocked, international version of the I-9000, probably from Singapore, probably on AT&T.
Will Samsung release "generic," non-carrier specific ROMS? Or will that be all from the excellent developer community?
I'm hoping it would still do high-speed 3G because it covers some of AT&T's 3G bands???
Thanks!

Eh. You cant get a international version in usa. If you get one from singapore it will be international ver. It will have problems on at&t as they use 850/1900 mhz for 3g while international ver uses 900/2100mhz. Before you buy a device please make sure the 3G radio will work with your telco. If you are in usa then buy one from the telco you will be using as it will be set up right. But for rest of world we can get away with standard international gsm ver
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[Q] International Version ???

Hi there
I want to buy the HTC ONE "again", but the problem is that I'm not sure which one.
After some research, I've found that there are several different versions of the HTC ONE:
HTC 801n ONE, ONE HTC 801e, 801a ONE HTC, HTC ONE 801W ...
Well why "again"?
Thing is that I had one until recently, the 801n, i got through a contract renewal in Switzerland, and I was very very happy with it!
But the trouble started when I went on a trip again. I travel a lot between Germany, Switzerland, Mexico, and the US, and due prolonged
stays in these countries, I have a simcard in each country, as well as prepaid and contract, each with internet access (3G and 4G).
Now in Mexico I noticed that my brand new HTC ONE 801n, was not compatible with the frequencies used here (3G, 850Mhz with Telcel Mexico), which made it useless as a smartphone. Therefore I sold it. But I loved this phone, so I am going to buy me a new HTC One!
Question is, which HTC ONE is the right for me?? Also I read everywhere on the internet about an "international" HTC one, an "international version"??
Is this one of the above versions I mentioned? "International," does it mean that it will work with all the frequencies in all the countries I travel to? With at least 3G Internet can use, perhaps even with 4G? And where do they sell it? And how can I identify it?
Thanks for your help

patiki said:
I travel a lot between Germany, Switzerland, Mexico, and the US,
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You might find this thread useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39991298

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You might find this thread useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39991298
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Not really, because already sold mine europe htc one, and looking for a new international one, which I can use in in europe and in the US, without hacking or flashing it.
And as noob in the smartphone area, i wouldnt be able to do it,even right now i am having problems to understand what they are talking about in the other thread

International version means it isn't locked to any specific carrier yoy basically any sim from any country should work. You should check that the network frequencies that the phone can handle are compatible with the country that you're visiting but a quick check of the phone specs will tell you that.
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patiki said:
And as noob in the smartphone area, i wouldnt be able to do it,even right now i am having problems to understand what they are talking about in the other thread
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You just need to look at the table in the first post
First, find out what 3G/4G frequencies are available with what carriers in each country you travel to. Then you can pick a model that will provide the most coverage. Just going off the 850MHz 3G requirement, you have a few variants to choose from.

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You just need to look at the table in the first post
First, find out what 3G/4G frequencies are available with what carriers in each country you travel to. Then you can pick a model that will provide the most coverage. Just going off the 850MHz 3G requirement, you have a few variants to choose from.
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US and in Mexico , 3G 850 MHz , and one thing i read was that if the 850 MHZ are not supported by the phone, it seems that it doesnt matter that all other frecuencies avaible in the coutry are supported, the phone wont work with 3G, no matter what. is that right.
No beeing right now most of the time in Mexico for the rest of the year, thinking to buy the HTC One in the US HTC online shop, the unlocked version, 600 USD,
and it says
This HTC One® unlocked version comes with: 32GB of onboard memory and is SIM unlocked.
- HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
- GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
- LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
Now, at Telcel Mexico , they told, if I buy a phone in the US, it has to be an ATnT compatible phone, and it will work without a problem in Mexico,same frecuencies as AtnT.
Are those the frecuencies used by AtNT??

If the only 3G frequency your carrier supports is 850Mhz, then it doesn't matter what other frequencies the phone is capable of.
Look at the table in the HTC One variants thread, and compare the frequencies of that phone with what is listed for AT&T. And more importantly, what Telcel Mexico support.
What about 4G and Europe, are they high or low priority? The Asian variant supports 850Mhz 3G and has a good overlap with the European 3G and 4G frequencies, but not the US 4G frequencies. What do you consider more important?

Should I get the international version or the AT&T version of Note 3 ?

Currently I have the Note 2 with AT&T. I will be upgrading to the Note 3 when it comes out. However, I am not sure which version of the Note 3 to get. Should I get the International version or the AT&T version. I think the international version has the Samsung CPU and the AT&T version has the Snapdragon 800. Would the international version work with AT&T LTE cellular? Would the international version work with T-Mobile LTE cellular (just in case I want to switch)?
Which one would give better battery and faster speed/graphics?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the international version will only run on AT&T 3G. I am in the camp that prefers the Snapdragon 800 to the revised Exynos 5, too. I'd opt for the AT&T version (Although personally I'm giving T-Mobile a shot this time around)

The N3 will be my first "carrier" phone on AT&T in two years. I'm not thrilled and depending on what it's like using it I may sell it on eBay and get a HSPA Octa. Here's my thinking:
Pros
I've been fine with HSPA+ on my previous phones and use to pay $10 a month for unlimited data through the "non-smartphone" loophole that applied to phone's AT&T didn't recognize. That party's over. So now I'm paying for LTE and not able to use it. So with AT&T's N3 I'll finally get what I'm paying for and even get LTE-A when they start to roll it out; supposedly this year.
The international N3's are insanely expensive. Negri and NewEgg have the Octa's at $779 and up. On Next it's $35 a month, I have no contract commitment beyond the phone's payoff, and I can sell it on eBay if I want something new.
Service and repair. Whether through Asurion or SquareTrade getting a carrier phone repaired/replaced is easy compared to jumping through hoops to get an international version (non-warranted and non-supported by Samsung in the U.S.) repaired.
Cons
God knows what AT&T's done with the s/w. We know there will be tons of their specific bloatware. That doesn't concern me because it can be disabled and with 32GB of NAND the space it takes up isn't a big deal. My big concern is their modifying, neutering, or completely removing some of Samsung's stock apps and features. I can't root my phones because I connect to secure networks so I'm pretty much stuck with what comes out of the box. I'm scared at what's coming out of AT&T's box.
I loved being able to use any multi-CSC ROM on Samfirmware or Samsung-Updates to keep my unrooted phone always current. I've probably had a dozen updates on my N7100. Now I'll be dependent on AT&T. That alone could end up pushing me to an international Octa N3. Also, to support the new features of Knox, Samsung's seriously altered and locked down the bootloader. So who knows what impact that'll have even on international N3's when it comes to updates via Odin. I used to root my phone when I wanted to do someting to it (EG: Google Wallet) and then unroot afterward and run Triangle Away. That ship sailed mid-year and with the Knox enhancements isn't coming back.
AT&T's modified radio may be crappy and I travel a lot internationally. Also I'm guessing on Next the device can't be unlocked until it's paid off. The only reason this is acceptable in my case is I'm getting a 3G (Octa) Note 10.1 2014 which has a dialer and I can use it in situations I need to pop in another carrier's SIM and/or the AT&T radio isn't working well.
Dev support is going to be limited on the AT&T N3's compared to the international versions. It'll probably still be strong but not as simple, timely, and robust. It doesn't apply to my un-rooted situation but something for people to consider.
The moment I find a S-800 international device that's quad-band GSM/UMTS and supports AT&T's LTE bands I'll buy it and sell my AT&T version. So far the EU and Latin American versions of the N3 don't support AT&T's LTE bands. The UK N3's LTE bands haven't been announced yet but I don't have high hopes. There's a chance a Canadian carrier will leave their version of the N3 unmolested and with the same model number as the international version and that it would support AT&T's LTE bands. That would allow it to be flashed like a non-carrier Samsung phone via Odin (with the possible exception mentioned above) and still get LTE on AT&T. Same thing for Claro in Puerto Rico. I'm not sure about the flash part but even an unmolested Canadian or Pueto Rican N3 with AT&T's LTE bands might end up being better than whatever AT&T does to their version.
All just my opinion of course.

I'm leaning towards either international or T.mobile or Canadian version. The att s4 can't be bootloader unlocked and new update patched the root. I'd hate to not have options on such a power device that I could potentially last for a couple years.

I had the note 1,note2,and now using the galaxy mega until the note 3 hits the shelf.I'm up in the air as well in deciding whether to keep my at&t note 3 or sell it and go international.I'd rather keep the at&t note 3,but who knows if were going to be up ****s creek with no root,are how long or ever going to get root method.I guess I can deal with no roms,but no root forget it

I thought that the international N3 (9005) with the SnapDragon 800 would be compatible with AT&T's LTE bands, no? Wasn't this mentioned during the presentation last week about the N3 supporting global LTE bands? Couldn't one just buy/import an international 9005 which was released in a country whose LTE bands match that of AT&T? Would this work?

I guess we'll know soon, but my own need would be for a variant which supports my home UK 4G network (EE most likely) plus USA AT&T LTE for when I'm in the states. Preferably bought in the UK for my UK carrier because of the discounts.
I thought the release event said they were going to support all bands in one device, but I've no idea if that's actually going to be true of the version you get at your local phone shop.
Andre

hockeyfan said:
I thought that the international N3 (9005) with the SnapDragon 800 would be compatible with AT&T's LTE bands, no? Wasn't this mentioned during the presentation last week about the N3 supporting global LTE bands? Couldn't one just buy/import an international 9005 which was released in a country whose LTE bands match that of AT&T? Would this work?
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I heard the same thing too.
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I've beeing researching for hours, and accordung to multiple sites, like this one the international N9005 version will support LTE 2100/1800/850/1600/800MHz (Bands 1,3,5,7,20). This does not include AT&T, whose LTE network operates on bands 4 (1700Mhz) and 17 (700Mhz). I hope these frequencies vary by region, like many sites mention, but I have my doubts we'll get lucky to see international N9005 with LTE bands 4 or 17.

Here is a list of countries, which has partial LTE band overlapping with AT&T. None of these support both, bands 4 and 17, which is what AT&T uses:
Argentina - 4
Colombia - 4
Ecuador - 4
Paraguay - 4
Peru - 4
Uruguay - 4
Canada - 4
Puerto Rico - 17
Since Note 3 has LTE radio, capable of supporting up to 6 bands, the only hope is that one of these carriers will pick up a version, where the other missing band is tossed in without any real purpose behind it, just to keep things interesting. For example, AT&T branded GN3 needs only these 2 LTE bands, and yet the device is LTE penta band.
Also, keep in mind we dont even know what band will AT&T use next year, when LTE-A goes live. I believe AT&T owns spectrum in 1900Mhz and 2100Mhz areas, and in the process of acquiring more.
EDIT: I'd like to clarify my statement about GN3 radio supporting 6 LTE bands. What I meant is some carriers will offer a version, which has up to 6 LTE bands enabled simultaneously. The actual hardware capability of Qualcomm's RF360 Front End solution is universal 2G/3G/4G support - the radio is capable of operating on *all* LTE frequencies.

[Q] HSDPA 900 Band for HTC One

Hello, everyone!
I was wondering if there's a version of the HTC One which works on a 3G network using the 900 band.
According to this, the only versions that work on a 900 band are the European and Asian versions, but I can't find them anywhere on Amazon or Ebay. Where can I get these? (hopefully from a trustworthy source)
Also, and this is just an extra, not a necessity, is there a version that accepts microSD cards for extra storage?

I'm guessing you only looked on Amazon and eBay US? Have you even tried Amazon UK, DE etc? Cos I just added one to my cart from Amazon UK, yes they ship internationally.

you want he M7U variant. that lacks LTE support but does 900mhz HSPA.
Here's one on german ebay: http://www.ebay.de/itm/HTC-One-32-G...51174162327?pt=DE_Handy_s&hash=item2332aea797
Any USA based sites are likely to be selling the M7UL which does LTE but only has 850/1900/2100 HSPA support.

That wiki page doesn't look right. Here's a better reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
HTC One variants [U/UL/WL]
The European and Asian phones are UL and will have LTE support.

Thanks for the info.
I would also like LTE support, so thank you deevan for clearing that up as well. That thread's info could be added to the wiki.
I can't post links, but I take it the first HTC One I see when I search for it in Amazon UK should do the trick, then, yes?
Thanks again! I'd give you all cookies if I could. :victory:

Bear in mind that there's even more LTE bands than 3G bands. You might want to check the 4G frequencies of your carrier to confirm support.
I think Amazon UK lists the phone as HTC One UK sim free, meaning its for the UK and it's outright not on contract.

deeevan said:
Bear in mind that there's even more LTE bands than 3G bands. You might want to check the 4G frequencies of your carrier to confirm support.
I think Amazon UK lists the phone as HTC One UK sim free, meaning its for the UK and it's outright not on contract.
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I made sure to check it first, but thanks for the warning.

What carriers are supported on the 4G version?

So do all of the carriers have a version of this tablet that will work.
I'm also interested in knowing if I buy a Sprint LTE model directly from them, and then decide to drop Sprint, can I move it over to AT&T? Or do these have distinct GSM and CDMA chipsets?

vMAC said:
So do all of the carriers have a version of this tablet that will work.
I'm also interested in knowing if I buy a Sprint LTE model directly from them, and then decide to drop Sprint, can I move it over to AT&T? Or do these have distinct GSM and CDMA chipsets?
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In a nutshell.......
Get the International Unbranded LTE version, if you 'lock' yourself into one of the CDMA versions you can't move later.
Bands and frequencies covered by International Version (non CDMA) here.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_10_5_lte-6235.php
There were some Black Friday deals on slickdeals but don't know if they're still available.

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In a nutshell.......
Get the International Unbranded LTE version, if you 'lock' yourself into one of the CDMA versions you can't move later.
Bands and frequencies covered by International Version (non CDMA) here.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s_10_5_lte-6235.php
There were some Black Friday deals on slickdeals but don't know if they're still available.
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Thanks for your reply. I looked at the ones that are on Amazon and they seemed to all be NON-USA.
So are you saying that these will work in the USA:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-10-5-Unlocked-Tablet/dp/B00BZ4C3GE