I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
No such problem with my HTC One. Multitasked between apps and browser, different tabs stayed put(no auto-refreshing).
bengadget said:
I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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I would like to know the same..
EDIT: nvm
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I've been hearing that the One has issues similar to its predecessor, as far as browser multitasking. Has anyone had issues with the browser constantly refreshing when you leave, go to another app, and come back to it?
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Yes. Me.
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Yes. Me.
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What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.
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What kind of websites does it happen with and how often? It worries me how there's no definitive reason why some people have this problem. It seems to be random.
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It does it a LOT on a dating site that I use, OKCupid (when accessing the desktop version of the site). I think it may possibly be related to the number of tabs one has open, as well. But certainly it's very annoying. I sometimes do a bit of browsing on London Underground trains. (You get about 20 seconds of wifi when the train is in a station!) What I'd like to be able to do is load up multiple pages in different tabs (each one opened as a new background tab) while the connection is up and then read them in the tunnels between stations; but it insists on refreshing each tab as you go back to it, and, as there's no connection in the tunnel, you can't actually read the page, even though it's fully downloaded and should be cached.
It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.
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It does it pretty frequently. More with stock browser than with chrome though.
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But that doesn't happen on my Chrome on my Note II... ever! Even if I press a link by mistake I can press back and it will be stored in cache, this is probably an HTC problem then, anyone else having this issue?
Nope. Not a problem for me. Always going back and forth on my browser. No issue there
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I agree. I can't remember if it's because I swipe it away with the recent apps button.
But sometimes the browser panics on me and closes on it's own.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.
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Thats false, it was an issue on the HTC One X, and thats why I went for the GS3 instead of the One X (that and battery life), and it was done on purpose by HTC, not sure if they "fixed" it or not since then.
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No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.
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No, it wasn't, no more than any other device with 1GB of RAM. I'm sure that's what you thought based on all the fud being spread at the time, but it wasn't true, as anyone who knows more about the internals would acknowledge.
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Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC
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Well I think I know a lot and it was definitely HTC's fault.. it was a software preference made by HTC
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A preference that had no influence apparently, since all it takes is a person with a task manager to confirm what I said was true.
This happens on my Nexus 4. Nothing new to see.
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This was NEVER an issue specific to HTC or its software. The sooner people stop spreading the FUD the better.
The only reason Android will force the browser to clear its cache of a page is because it needs to. That is, it's running low on RAM due to other services/apps and needs more. Your browser is not considered a high-level process in the priority list (it's not a service, unlike many other apps), so it'll get hit more often than other apps.
So, the reason this crops up for some people more than others is simply due to what they have running in the background (services, such as Facebook, Trillian, GMail, etc etc). The more crap you run at the same time, the more likely it's going to run out of RAM. This is how it works for ANY Android phone going all the way back to the 2.0 days. It's ALSO how it works on iOS, BlackBerry 10, and webOS (except those platforms don't use a priority system). Also keep in mind that websites these days actually take up a significant amount of RAM, especially ones with heavy amounts of Javascript and retina-level graphics.
The HTC One has 2GB of RAM, which means you have quite a bit of RAM to work with before this happens, but how often it happens is always going to be determined by how you use it.
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This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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This is also BS. The evo lte I had always dumped the browser and this phone does it as well, even just going back and forth from the browser to the music app. The galaxy i switched to did not exhibit the same behavior. In fact, that thing would often keep the browser in memory till the NEXT DAY. This phone with 2gb ram (and 700 plus free) will dump my browser pages for nothing but time it seems
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It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.
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It's really not. I had chrome stay in RAM for 3 full hours tonight even when playing games. Don't ever use the stock browser, they're always terrible on all platforms.
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See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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See, that's what's retarded to me. I too have also ran a heavy game and came back to the browser and my pages were still there. But let me play some music and come back a few minutes later and it's highly likely that it's been terminated
I don't use chrome because the stuttery scrolling. The stock browser is the smoothest I've ever used on android so I'm a bit smitten
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Chrome doesn't have any scrolling lag for me on the One.
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ok I've voiced my opinion on android multitasking before. but this has me confused. I seem to lose RAM over time.
my setup is that I basically run my phone stock. no killing apps with task killers. I run the following services, HTC keyboard, Google finance, battery widget, Google voice/talk/gmail. that's basically it.
when I first start my phone, a bunch of apps show up running and the phone has 30 mb free RAM. over 24 hours less and less apps stay in the cache as "inactive" or "background", until only the above services I run are left running. yet the RAM stays at 30 mb free RAM still. why is this happening? I tested this out over 24 hours, but it gets to this point much sooner, maybe after an hour or so.
edit: also why can't the OS anticipate the apps I DO frequently use and keep THOSE cached in memory? literally the phone pre loads every single app I DON'T use, like Google earth, mp3 store, etc.
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
oh and I also run the xda app service too.
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In that case you'll need this link instead: http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
I'm just curious. this does kind of effect things because things like opera start to close just by switching away from it when these conditions happen. but a reboot and opera will keep my page loaded for hours.
it shouldn't matter either way, we are all trying to learn and understand how android works. and the point me this thread is I think this is a bug or a memory leak that people might not know about.
I don't use a computer ever, all phones.
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thank you, can't wait to watch there! might be what I'm looking for.
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Um, may I ask are you annoyed, or are you just interested? Unless your phone is lagging due to apps being idle, how much RAM you have shouldn't even concern you.. not to sound rude or anything, but are you like this on an actual computer as well? People seem to be obsessed with RAM consumption, if my phone doesn't have any issues.. I don't care how much RAM I currently have.
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Not to be redundant but that would be the exact reason why someone would care about their RAM usage xD I actually have that problem as well. Even if I kill all tasks, my phone will lock up still. Not sure what the issue is. I feel like the older the phone gets the more it's messing up. (I have had it only for 2 months lol
am using the official ICS and OMG its so stupid!
-it takes up to 8 seconds to open an app
-it drains my battery(8 hours maximum)
-it lags so much and some apps just end up crashing every now and then
-cant tether
-one cant manually toggle between 2G/3G/4G!
-is the processor of this phone really a duo core??????
Is there a better ROM??? or should i just sell off the phone??
Did you do a complete wipe/factory restore when you moved to ICS? I started out that way, and the ROM has always felt fine, and I believe there are reports from other users that had their gripes resolved when they restored from scratch.
I did a wipe but still the rom is so lagging!
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i had some previous ICS experiences but you should try a few tricks. first, hold down the HOME KEY for about 3 seconds. an APP manager opens. you may have lots of apps that didnt close. hit STOP ALL.
Also notice that you can quickly pop between apps this way. you can kill an app by swiping its image sideways.
Second, in your drop down bar, organize your icons to have the WIFI and DATA buttons quickly available. The DATA is a really battery drainer. if your not using it, turn it off. if your not using wifi, turn it off. your battery can last 2+ days with both turned off.
With Gingerbread, i had issues with the wifi not connecting after the phone was on for a day or so. all that seems to be fixed with ICS. I used to have to reboot the phone 2-3 times a day to fix this. I rarely ever reboot it now.
If you decide to sell off the phone, i know at&t will give you $100 for it as a trade in. I think the used phones are going for about $90 on ebay now
hope that helps!
I've used many devices with ICS and this one byfar takes the tard cake.
I am having the same thing here. seems like getting slower after using for few days.
Worst ROM I have ever used
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after rooting, it actually wasn't bad. pretty stable and responsive
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after rooting, it actually wasn't bad. pretty stable and responsive
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I recently got this phone and have been expirimenting with the official stock rom while rooted. It is offensively slow and I believe lg recruited satan to invent the rom and make me kill myself. Either way, a few things that actually worked for me are the following:
Startup manager from the android market, disable all lg/ startup applications under system. This singlehandedly decreased my boot time by about a minute and makes everything much smoother.
rescan media root from the market, use it to disable media scanning. For some reason, the media scanner on stock ics sucks for me, and makes the entire phone unusable. Disabling it with this app also increased my boot time and made the phone run better.
V6 supercharger with kick ass kernelizer and patched services.jar and unledded minfrees. Google v6 supercharger, its the first result.
I still have problems like op describes, sometimes the phone will freeze for four to eight seconds while doing something and takes time to catch up to itself. Not sure why, or how to fix it.
Are you sure about that, I actually flashed ICS on my Thrill and It rocks!!!!!!
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If you are sure it is not a bad flash, try Supercharger and Ultimatic .jar tools mod over in General Android Dev and Hacks like teebuddy said. Kills lag like no other mod. Also uninstall unneeded apps to free up memory. This phone is 3+ yrs old now.
Or use a better optimized custom ROM
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lol glad I am not the only one.
This phone is a piece of garbage.
My first visit to the forum in months.
I signed up to install ICS official hoping for improvements. It brought me some features. Did it make the phone better? Nope, probably worse.
Phone is laggy and my internal storage isn't even full.
Sometimes opening an app takes 4-6 seconds, other times an app freezes and the buttons on the bottom of the phone do not respond.
Sometimes when in an app it goes black and then takes forever to respond again.
I upgrade to ICS and lose tethering which was a nice feature. I would rather lose 3D which is the biggest gimmick ever.
This phone is beyond pathetic! I have an iPhone 4 which is a single core and runs smooth as BUTTER. I prefer Android OS but LG Optimus 3D sucks.
There is no hope for this pathetic phone now. Once my contract expires next year I will try to sell it.
It is rather ironic that you are locked into a contract
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It is rather ironic that you are locked into a contract
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Not sure what you are talking about.
I got the phone in 2011 when it came out. There weren't many options. The contract is 3 years, so it expires summer 2014.
Not sure where you live but contracts were 3 years and only changed to 2 years this July. Anyone before July still has to finish their contract or they can cancel.
The phone sucks period. It is worse than my friends Samsung Galaxy S Captivate and my Uncle's iPhone 4.
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That is also ironic.
It's taken a lot of digging to actually find other people complaining about the lagginess of the device.
I'm currently on stock AT&T ICS after custom flashing it god knows how many times. Super-bricked to restored.
I find the current ICS implementation crazy for how little room it leaves on the device.
I've been able to get the device running a TAD smoother by disabling (Yay ICS disable feature) most of the AT&T junk. The reason the device lags so much, especially compared to other devices, is squarely on the lack of RAM. It has 256MB compared to other devices (like the Evo 3D) which have 512MB.
I know the CPU itself isn't crappy, because games like Asphalt 6 look AND RUN fantastic. If it was garbage, the game would run like garbage.
So anything you can do on the device to prevent apps running in the background will help. Otherwise it's spending a LOT of time closing apps because so much of the RAM is used.
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It's taken a lot of digging to actually find other people complaining about the lagginess of the device.
I'm currently on stock AT&T ICS after custom flashing it god knows how many times. Super-bricked to restored.
I find the current ICS implementation crazy for how little room it leaves on the device.
I've been able to get the device running a TAD smoother by disabling (Yay ICS disable feature) most of the AT&T junk. The reason the device lags so much, especially compared to other devices, is squarely on the lack of RAM. It has 256MB compared to other devices (like the Evo 3D) which have 512MB.
I know the CPU itself isn't crappy, because games like Asphalt 6 look AND RUN fantastic. If it was garbage, the game would run like garbage.
So anything you can do on the device to prevent apps running in the background will help. Otherwise it's spending a LOT of time closing apps because so much of the RAM is used.
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Um this phone has 512mb ram... Also the processor sucks. It's worse than an underclocked iPhone 4 processor.
I froze all the AT&T apps with titanium backup.
Hi,
I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?
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Hi,
I've had some really bad experience with the HTC One and Android overall in the last few years.
Starting with the Samsung Galaxy S, then going through the HTC One X, Samsung Galaxy S3, and now HTC One, I've got one thing that really annoys me. The stutter/lag in every single third party apps. I tried doing many things, like enabling 'force gpu rendering', and changing roms, but I could never get rid of that 'lag'. Many people don't see it as a problem, but it is really annoying for me as an iPhone user, where my 4S is extremely fluid and stutter free compared to the One. Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
I really like android as an operating system, iOS is too closed. So I'd rather not go back to the iPhone for that, but the lag and bad animations bother me so much that I am actually considering returning the One.
So my question is - is there anything I can do to get rid of the stutter/lag ?
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Yes Android Does have bug and lag but its getting a lot better compare to 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 4.0 4.1 4.2 each update has improved whole OS bit better, but still needs more time to mature but same time İOS or Windows Phone is very limited so i assume more thing to do means more codes and more codes mean more fault. İ have HTC One and İphone 5 but HTC One feels faster than İphone 5 in my eyes but another fact is Android needs more power so maybe next chipsets like S800 or Tegra 4 may make transaction more smoother. Android is not best idea on budget smartphone cos as i said needs more power.
There are a lot of rumours that Android Key Lime Pime will be more smoother and less power hungry need to wait and see but enjoy whole experience of android its free and open its getting better every day
sorry for bad spell etc
As a past user of an iPhone 4s and current user of a HTC one, lag is way more prevalent in the 4s.Examples 1.Open the app store. 2. Switch between apps a couple times. 3. Swipe to the search screen. The one never lags for me. Ever. I'm a pretty intensive user with lots of apps running at once. Not to mention the speed at which the one works compared to the iPhone. It still has awesome animations but does them faster. Seriously you must have some rogue app going crazy in the background or something.
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I have the same feeling.
I've owned over 10 android devices and an iPhone 4 and 5, and when I'm on an iPhone I hate that I'm not able to do anything... and while when I'm on an Android phone I LOATHE the constant stutter/lag/inconcistancy.
You can't have your cake and eat it too... I guess.
EDIT: To answer your quesion: no, you can't.
EDIT2: just thought of WebOS, smooth, whith it's modding repositories *starts wheeping*
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Now, some people have told me that going from an iPhone to Android will mean that things like this will be apparent for me instantly, and they will annoy me. But I can't believe that this is the case with all Android phones, I mean after all they all cost just as much as iPhone does, so they should work just as well?
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You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)
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You need to give some examples of apps, situations which lag or stutter for me Android is pretty fluid (with the exeption of chrome)
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hold an iPhone and an android phone side by side, the difference will be noticeble to everyone.
I think the OP is referring to apps that haven't yet been optimized for the 1920x1080 screen of the One and the S4. Animations such as those in Words with Friends look jerky in comparison with the iOS counterpart. It may be something you'll need to learn to live with. With Android phones of all different sizes out there, you're never going to get 100% app compatibility.
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Like I said I can' t see any stutter or lag, not in the default apps or sense at least
Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.
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Well that is what my iFriends say - it stutters!!!!1 How can you not see that???? And yes, sometimes I do see it, and it is annoying.
Some of us are more sensitive, some don't even notice. Most of the time I think it is because of loading content while scrolling. If you open a web page, or any internet dependent app, it will pull new content when you scroll to the end, an then inevitably some time is spent on arranging layout, loading jpegs and so on. iOS does it in advance, and is even making some kind of thumbnails all over system to smooth that out.
Could be wrong, but that is my conclusion so far.
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like I said you need to give some specific examples of lag or stutter because I can't see it, not in sense nor in the stock apps. I can see lag and stutter for example in chrome (and new opera) but stock (and opera classic) are smooth, app drawer buttery smooth, settings buttery smooth, whatsapp smooth, blinkfeed smooth
Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.
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Well I don't know now, really. Trying to forget about it, but name of this thread reminded me again
As I said - internet apps, not in system. Facebook, Engadget, Instagram, Cracked app... almost all third party web apps, not really important ones. It is app design flaw of some kind, you cant see that in system or system apps which are better made. On the bright side, this effect was horrible on LG O2x, which could just confirm my theory - One can load and arrange on-the-fly required data quicker.
It's not hard to understand that this effect is really not what anyone who bought the best Android device at the moment wants to see, no matter who's fault it is. Maybe that is the price we pay for system openness, and if that is the case - not a problem at all.
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oh I don' t use any of those apps, mostly the stock ones and google apps and these are all buttery smooth (with the exception of chrome and sometime the play store).
I think these laggy apps all use webkit to draw their UI, webkit will lag the UI when loading, even on a powerful desktop. One of the chrome devs congrateluted opera, when the switched to webkit how fluid they had made opera when presto was still loading, something which they hadn't figured out to do yet
what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly
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what version of android do you have? i noticed stuttering in third party apps on 4.1.2, but was fixed in 4.2.2
i use tubemate, and it was unusable on 4.1.2, now it works perfectly
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I'm currently on stock 4.1.2 from HTC, the European version for the HTC_001. I've also tried the Android Revolution HD 4.2.2, but the problem still persisted. It was better, but still not 'buttery smooth'.
As to when it happens - Sense is largely ok, when swiping through the screens you can't really see any lag. Unless going between the app launcher and the blinkfeed.
But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web browser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
I've tried firefox, chrome, stock browser, and all of them have the same problem.
There are also apps, facebook, even the keyboard lags!
Now, I don't know about you, but I think it's the resolution that causes the problem. I'd rather have lower resolution with say, 300 ppi, which is not really noticeably worse than that of the One, and at the same time have an OS that does not suffer from these problems.
Because in all honesty, the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
I'm still hoping that somebody will come up with something that can fix it.
Because I'm really sensitive about this stuff myself, and love the idea of android at the same time. Not to mention the hardware of ONE.
But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
So I think it'll be back to the iPhone for now. My contract on it ends in a year, so let's hope Google does some magic with Android, and maybe forces manufacturers to release properly optimized software. But I fear that's just wishful thinking.
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...the ONE is actually more stuttery than SGS 1 was.. Now, that just can't be right!
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You said it yourself, that can't be right.
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...But when using the phone, it immediately feels cheap and badly made when simple things like that occur on a phone costing as much as a 15 year old car!
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You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
If you're getting stuttering with certain apps, don't use them. Poorly made apps usually have alternatives.
So far, the only big app I'm getting stuttering with is the Chrome/Chrome Beta app. It would be nice if it wasn't there but, thanks to features like data compression saving me roughly 50% on data use, I can look past it. I also get it with the facebook app, but that is such a **** app.
There are probably some other apps I get it with but, to be completely honest, lag and stuttering hasn't been noticeable in my daily use. This phone is fast as hell... Faster even than a 15 year old car. What a deal!
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ataft said:
You have an interesting way of exaggerating prices. I bought mine from Hong Kong, so maybe mine cost as much as a 14 year old car. Or perhaps a 15 year old car in good condition? Or maybe just within the range of usual Flagship phone prices?
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haha!
What I was trying to say, that these phones cost extremely high amounts of money, and yet don't work properly.
I mean, having used Lumia 520 a few weeks ago for a few days, I can safely say that I would recommend that over the One, simply on the 'niceness of use'. And that phone costs £100 in the UK.. One costs over £450 at the cheapest.
As to the apps - I get that, but if you read my post, you'd know that I mentioned all of the popular apps, I try to stay away from the lesser known developers, as they tend not to do so much testing on their apps, and thus providing a terrible experience most of the time (not so much on iOS, as Apple does a lot of testing before they put the app up on the market, something that would be nice to have on android too).
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But it's mostly other apps, such as even the stock web bowser, thet just stutter and lag when on some simple webpages, such as google, full amazon website, my banks, lloyds tsb, and pretty much every single web page is just slow and stutters when scrolling. Not to mention XDA-Developers, because this website is just on another level of stutter. lol
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some sites lag in some browsers some sites in all, some sites even lag on my powerful core i5 laptop running windows 8, sometimes it' s bug in the browser, sometimes a bug in the website. I'll bet you you will come across laggy sites on the iphone too. XDA is buttery smooth for me though (at least the forum, which I always watch in compact view and I hated the contextual search so I disabled that in forum preferences)
Honestly I've used android from the start back when the g1 was released. Going from that to the g2 now the HTC one. Even on my g2 on some Roms I barley had lag issues now on the one I don't see any stutter or lag or slow downs.. But I guess that's just me.
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I guess we can both be happy that are devices aren't as bad as the OP
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I don't think it's a problem with my particular device though.
I've watched many reviews online, and the very same things that happened on my device were happening on those being reviewed.
Things like:
When browsing google images, you open one image and then swipe to look at the next one, htc one starts to render an animation and then 1/4th of the way just stutters to the picture. On the iPhone it's just a nice, fluid animation.
Another, the original keyboard is rather bad, you press a key, and the pop up with letter comes on, you depress the key and the preview is still there for at least half a second.
Also, a more general one - when you install something from the play store and try to browse for another app on it at the same time - it stutters beyond belief.
And sense one - where are the animations when closing an app/window? I feel like using windows Vista on a 2005 pc with 1gb ram..
It's very small things, but they do not happen on the iPhone, and I just feel like the experience is more pleasurable and consistent on iOS. Not to mention WP, which is even faster than iOS in my opinion.
The iPhone and WP may not be faster hardware wise, or performance wise even, but the animation, and transitions between doing things are just incredibly badly implemented on Android.
I'd rather see it being done like on the iPhone - when the phone is installing or doing something in the background, that action stops when you try and use the phone. That way, it may perform worse, and install the app slower, but the experience is really good, and no stutter occurs. Whereas android sort of tries to do everything at the same time.
But again, that may be just me being very bothered about things like this, most people don't see it as a problem, but it annoys the hell out of me, hence this thread. I was hoping that there is some tweak for the One that makes the experience more pleasurable whilst maybe decreasing the performance a little.
Hi
I am new to android. I switched from iphone 5 to moto x. I got the fone yesterday and having some serious problems. Scrolling especially in facebook is very laggy. Browser is ok but facebook app is terrible. Its not the same case in iphone 5 where its buttery smooth. So my doubt is, is the fb app lags same on all android phones or just the moto x? even i will get ocassional hiccups on twitter. Is it normal. Can it be optimized by tweaking any settings? I love the phone but this thing sucks
Thanks
can't help you. i get no lag in scrolling in fb.
Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
gunnyman said:
Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
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i'm on the beta one. maybe that is the issue
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Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
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murso74 said:
i'm on the beta one. maybe that is the issue
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As someone who has always greenified facebook before, is the beta FB app worth it over the normal one?
I've honestly not worried about apps or syncing or shutting off anything. This phone lasts ALL day for me with NOTHING turned off.
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As someone who has always greenified facebook before, is the beta FB app worth it over the normal one?
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the most recent beta has been working flawless for me. however the ones before it had issues. beta is beta, just like nightlies. sometimes you get a bad one.
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I've honestly not worried about apps or syncing or shutting off anything. This phone lasts ALL day for me with NOTHING turned off.
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I generally don't care about facebook notifications because I'm not a terribly active user. Most notifications are a few friends that post way more than they should and I could care less so I turn them off. Because i dont need the notifications, I generally always greenified it.
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Facebook is horrible lag monster on all android phones. Join the beta program. The facebook beta app is a much better situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/face...ndroid-beta-testing-program/10151529228878920
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Facebook is the possible root of some of my issues with wifi.
Trolling?
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Welcome to android. Scrolling in third party apps is rarely smooth on android. My iPhone 5 is flawless in that regard. It's because on android, app developers don't have to follow strict standards like on ios. Tweaking will not really help with the Facebook app. Source: tweaking both android and ios for 2 years.
You will notice quite a few android users will flat out deny any lag in an effort to defend their purchase decision. Just something I've noticed.
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facebook app sucks, try just using your browser it will be much quicker and less of a battery hog. You can always set a bookmark on the browser and add that to your homescreen.
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facebook app sucks, try just using your browser it will be much quicker and less of a battery hog. You can always set a bookmark on the browser and add that to your homescreen.
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But then, you lose the top panel that allows you to make a new post, see your notifications etc unless you scroll all the way to the top. That's the way I remember it. Did they change that?
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But then, you lose the top panel that allows you to make a new post, see your notifications etc unless you scroll all the way to the top. That's the way I remember it. Did they change that?
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you are correct. You would need to scroll to the top to see those.
thanks for all your replys.. this is the only issue i am having.. and the battery is a beast in this phone. On heavy usage with 5hrs+ screen time and 3hrs of phone calls my phone is at 3% after 15 hours which is way way better than my iphone. I had tried stream app for facebook and its nice scrolling is a bit smooth and some features are missing. I will try the beta app as suggested.
Thanks again
What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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only lag or stutter i get with the moto x is in the chive app and xda developers app. These are app related not android related. Moto x has been publicized as one of the best android experience to date for partially these reasons. Apple will always be better though. One phone built for one software. Even though the latest release for apple really screwed up how well older devices worked.
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What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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And yet you are here
I just came from an iPhone 5 and am using the Nexus 5 now (soon to be owner of the Moto X), and I can tell you that I have had no lags on my Nexus 5 at all. Just because app developers dont code their apps properly, and manufacturers insist on slapping their phones with bloated skins, doesn't mean the OS itself sucks.
And the fact that android stands up to iOS in smoothness, when iOS is NOWHERE close to Android in terms of functionality is a testament to Google and their OS.
And no I am not a fanboy by any stretch of imagination. I regularly switch between iOS and android phones (albeit only the top end ones) and have an iPad mini as my tablet right now (which I got after flipping my nexus 10)
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And yet you are here
I just came from an iPhone 5 and am using the Nexus 5 now (soon to be owner of the Moto X), and I can tell you that I have had no lags on my Nexus 5 at all. Just because app developers dont code their apps properly, and manufacturers insist on slapping their phones with bloated skins, doesn't mean the OS itself sucks.
And the fact that android stands up to iOS in smoothness, when iOS is NOWHERE close to Android in terms of functionality is a testament to Google and their OS.
And no I am not a fanboy by any stretch of imagination. I regularly switch between iOS and android phones (albeit only the top end ones) and have an iPad mini as my tablet right now (which I got after flipping my nexus 10)
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very true. The only app that lags for me is facebook, and I stopped using that a while ago, so it doesn't even matter.
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What exactly were you expecting when you went from iOS to Android?
Lag, stutter and crashes are a daily occurance on Android. Fanboys will deny it online, but if you've ever used an iPhone it's instantly obvious.
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Not sure what phones you are using, but I haven't had these issues since my sgs2... Since then, it was only minimal lag and stutter... Until the moto x. I have had 1 rrb since I owned this phone (2 months) when it lags and stutters it is so limited and or imperceptible that I don't notice.
I'm no fanboy, I've used iOS extensively and it is a very very smooth experience, yes, more so than on Android, but that is to be expected considering their iron grip on the entire system.
What's funny is the way Apple has designed their os to hide the existence of app and system crashes. There is a setting in iOS that is a debugging/usage statistic report that gets sent to apple, if you have it enabled and then read the log you will see what's going on behind the scenes.
One of my employees and I were talking about this, he has an iPhone 5 and I asked him if his phone ever crashes or if apps force close, he said never. I then asked him if you ever are in an app and it just randomly goes back to the home screen, he said yes, and it was a common occurrence. He thought it was him pushing a button or something... Anyways, I explained that this was the apps force closing, it's just that Apple has cleverly disguised it, unlike Android which tells you point blank.
But I digress... I asked him to go to this setting and see if it was enabled, it was and so we looked at the bug report. There were over 2 dozen app crashes, Facebook and bluealien (reddit) were the main culprits, but also safari and a few others. All completely unknown to him because if the sly way Apple coded their os.
What my point is, is that even iOS is not perfect, and I found that there were more crashes on any iPhone 5 vs even my sgs3 and exponentially more than my moto x... Apple just hides it very very well.
Tldr: Apple hides the existence of os/app crashes, they happen more than anyone knows.
Moto X rocking 4.4
http://bgr.com/2015/08/25/galaxy-note-5-vs-iphone-6-speed-test/
After seeing this Samsung must really have dorked the memory management really bad on the Note, it seem even worse than my old S6 Edge killing apps in the background all the time. Why put 4 GB of ram when you cant use them? Is it really this bad killing all the apps and have to reaload them or is the video totally wrong?
This is ancient news. Geez. Welcome to 3 days ago. LOL
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All of the new samsung phones are like this and its ridiculous. Hopefully a dev can fix it.
The "multitasking king" getting the ass kicked?
Sold my edge but thought they had fixed that annoying background killing. Samsung must be really stupid, one of the biggest advantages of the Note is totally dorked. Was thinking of getting the Edge+ as the Note not will be coming to Sweden but after Seeing this Samsung will not get my money
Shocking BGR published this. In my day to day use I don't notice any problems. I have a 6+ and it isn't any better.
For example. I use a radio app that if I pause it it will continue to record the station until I come back to it and pick up where I left off. Same app on the iPhone if I pause it and come back later it never keeps my recording. This has always been my personal test between the 2 OS's.
These side by side tests are not real world usage and prove nothing.
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Stupid tests get stupid results.
Who'da thunk?
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Sold my edge but thought they had fixed that annoying background killing. Samsung must be really stupid, one of the biggest advantages of the Note is totally dorked. Was thinking of getting the Edge+ as the Note not will be coming to Sweden but after Seeing this Samsung will not get my money
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/news-european-note-5-t3185548
i keep my benchmarks based on how i'd actually use the device. launching a buncha apps then relaunching (without ever using them) is something i see myself rarely doing.
That is my point. I'm not defending how samsung is doing the memory management, as it seems stupid.
But in practice, for my usage this doesn't seem to come into play often/at all. So FOR ME this just isn't a big deal.
iOS doesn't background multitask like Android. If you start a SSH/telnet, IRC, ftp/ftps/stftp, etc. session then put it in the background iOS will kill it after 3 minutes. If they had repeated the test but wait after 3 minutes to relaunch the apps then the results would come out different.
http://www.speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html
No one uses a device like that that i know of. If you multitask between 2 or 3 apps (AND you're not using multiwindow) there isn't a problem with apps being killed. The phone is lightning fast. If you're flipping between 14 apps, you're either an idiot or autistic.
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No one uses a device like that that i know of. If you multitask between 2 or 3 apps (AND you're not using multiwindow) there isn't a problem with apps being killed. The phone is lightning fast. If you're flipping between 14 apps, you're either an idiot or autistic.
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+1 the problem seems to happen when you multitask on more than 8 apps I think it is a feature to save battery then
use the task switcher instead of re clickkng the icon to get back to the running app
From my personal experience, I ran Hearthstone, Vainglory, Chrome, iFunny, and Pandora at once without any apps being killed. Then continued with Youtube, Facebook, and then Hangouts. Only then did apps begin getting killed. So I really don't see this to be a problem for sensible people.
I was aware of this issue but the 'real world' impact is negligible AT BEST. I just opened my gallery as it was '12 apps ago', it came up in the flash. There are some newfeed apps that do reload but I WANT IT to because I want to be reading the new stuff - just like it would I loaded it as a first-time app.
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I was aware of this issue but the 'real world' impact is negligible AT BEST. I just opened my gallery as it was '12 apps ago', it came up in the flash. There are some newfeed apps that do reload but I WANT IT to because I want to be reading the new stuff - just like it would I loaded it as a first-time app.
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Imagine however it was Microsoft word which comes with the device or Tapatalk. What if you halfway through writing a post or a word document, you background the app and check email, look at web browser, check s-planner and then take a call or text someone. You then go back to your word document or Tapatalk post and the app refreshes - resulting in you losing everything you had previously written. No matter how quick it reloads that would be an utter pain. The fact is - 4gb, 2015, fastest ram and SOC, it shouldn't happen. We should expect more.
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Have you ever had that problem in Word? I haven't, and tried exactly what you listed as an example...
I understand your point, though.
Thread closed, similar/same topic being discussed here >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/ram-bug-t3182414