does anyone regret getting this phone? - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

I do a bit, it's not a bad phone. Just not many custom roms. I should of researched it before, but I know now lol. I should of spent the extra 100 and get the one X at the time. I will probably keep the phone and use it for 1 more year as my main phone, what about everyone else?
also thanks to homeslice for sense4 and the all the other devs that have supported this phone.:good:

I regret it a little as well becasue of the low amount of devolpment for the phone but Homeslice's Sense 4.1 rom makes it alright. Hope that there will be a 4.2 rom for it.

Yeah I regret it a little too. I remember standing in the store debating between the vivid or the skyrocket. I kind of wish I got the skyrocket....
But I only have another month and I can get a new phone...what to get???
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lil bit. i also wish i had bought the one x at the time i got mine. but im happy with what we have. even if its not much. big thanks to the devs. :good:

Yep, very much so.
I got it on launch day, but I was deciding between the regular SGS2 and the Raider. Going off of the presence of LTE, a friend's opinion of the DHD, and how solidly built that phone was, I decided to give HTC my business. A huge mistake. The build isn't holding up as well as the DHD's is (I have since bought my friend's DHD, as he upgraded to a SGS3, and use it as my DD), as I have noticeable bronzing of the volume and power buttons, along with the clear coat chipping off the plastic near said buttons. This is only after about 8 months (and no drops) of active DD use, not even the two years (and four drops) that the DHD has endured. Sense 3.x is also nowhere nearly as nice as Sense 2.1. Another huge issue is that the DHD can easily make a full day with moderate to heavy usage; my Raider's battery lasts 8 hours maximum, regardless of usage.

Yes I do. There was a decent development community before the dev wars and then they all went their separate ways leaving the Vivid to die. Some devs have their own sites but the reason I bought this phone was because of the hype behind it. First we had a locked bootloader, then s-off took months to achieve, then dev wars. I'll be MUCH more selective with what phone I will buy from now on as a result. Not buying right away and certainly not buying from ATT will be on my checklist from here on out. Homeslice and WC have done an excellent job keeping this device alive throughout the crisis. I love Sense but cannot justify buying HTC with all of the hoops you have to jump through to use the device the way you want to. Here's to hoping the next phone I buy will be friendlier.
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Got the phone, no I don't regret it mostly because of the LTE capability. At the time I was looking at the Raider, Atrix 2 and the Vivid. All things considered (like HTC/ATT's upgrade software once and forget you policy) I probably should have gone with the Atrix, but I was an HTC lover at the time (having had the original Tilt and Tilt 2).
Next phone however will not be an HTC. I don't like the HTC One XL (no SD storage) and being able to get the ability to flash a custom Rom is increasingly becoming a pain in the ass with HTC. Just my 2 cents.

Yeah I regret it even now. I've replaced both me and my wife's vivids with nexus 4s but we're still under contract for the things till next year. I wanted the one x, but got sick of waiting on an announcement for it so I was considering just a regular non lte gs2. A friend of mine said lte was awesome, so I looked at the skyrocket instead and it was $199, the vivid was $99 and had damn near identical specs so I went for it. Loved it initially but after about 2 or 3 months of terrible battery life I decided I was going to buy whatever nexus phone came out Christmas time.
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No I don't regret it.
I came from Garminfone where there's ZERO developer community to the Raider/Vivid. Whatever there is here is more than I had
LTE: I don't have a data plan anymore as of this morning. I did have unlimited LTE with Bell in Canada for 6 months, but did not use it enough to warrant $60/month for the data plan after the free 6th month. WiFi will have to suffice for the 2 years left in my contract.
The phone has been fun to play with, but feature wise, I've grown bored with it.

I don't regret getting this phone at all. There may have been phones at the time that had "better" hardware (the stock rom on the GS2 is super smooth) but the coders who work, or have worked, on the Vivid have done an absolutely amazing job.
Remember back when CM was just a pipe dream? Now it's functional (with a few kinks, but I'm confident the devs can figure that stuff out.)
I haven't tried many roms, but from what I've experienced they beat the stock rom by a nearly infinite amount.
HTC made a great phone with the Vivid. If you don't believe me, stop by xda in a few months and compare the current state of development with what you are witnessing. Eyes wide open, jaw dropped I'd imagine.

Let me share my experience that so far I have got with this phone.
My last phone was the HTCOX, and I believe the camera resolution was way more better than this one.
Unless I'm applying wrong settings, I don't see to get good pix. They are coming too pixelated.
What do you think?
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I don't regret getting the phone, it being my first android phone and all, I've loved using the phone. Sure there's not enough development going on for it but the developers that are actually doing things for this phone are doing great jobs. It is strongly built, the only body flaw is the bronzing of the volume keys and lock button. The hardware is still up to standard. All in all a decent phone
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I am very glad I got this phone. It has been solid, reliable and has done everything I've ever asked it to do. I was fortunate to fall in with WC early on as a vivid beta tester. I am currently running a beta ROM (might not be publicly released) from WC and it is incredible. Fast, stable and outstanding battery life.
I foresee this phone carrying me through for another two years at least.
This fall I will ditch my overpriced AT&T service plan and hook into either the T-Mo $30 plan or the Straight Talk $45 plan. The money I save will go toward a new unlocked phone down the road.

I really don't hate htc anymore. And that's why I regret that phone. Didn't look into the fine details, I seriously believed it to be HTCs flagship device on at&t. Nope, it was the budget friendly lte phone. It didn't make a big splash nor was it intended too, just a phone with a $99 price tag intended to sway holiday shoppers.
For every galaxy s that comes out, Samsung releases 200 crap models, and as for htc? The sensation was the flagship, the vivid was your Samsung Galaxy ace. Nuff said.
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That's exactly what happend to me. Best buy had this for for 0 dollars and on 3 year contract and plus and 100 gift card so I immediately bought it without much thought since it was my first android phone.
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The thing is that this was the flagship phone and was marketed as such. In SF there were billboards everywhere with this phone along with lte branding everywhere. It was being sold for 200 on contract for 3 weeks and because it didn't sell well they dropped the price to move more units. 3 months later the one X dropped and this phone faded into the sunset. I even wrote to HTC wondering why our phone was booted to the legacy section after 3 months and they gave me the runaround. The HTC M4 will likely release in another couple of months. And will be for a larger audience because of its smaller size. HTC never changed. They won't be wasting my time or getting my money any longer.
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I don't think it means much that it was on a billboard, I mean at&t is marketing the hell out of the HTC first right now, I wouldn't consider it a flagship by any means.
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I don't think it means much that it was on a billboard, I mean at&t is marketing the hell out of the HTC first right now, I wouldn't consider it a flagship by any means.
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It was all over the city and they had TV commercials all over the bay area for it as well. At the time, Verizon was the only carrier with an active LTE network and ATT needed this flagship phone, the first LTE phone, to get in the consumers hands. They handled the support for this phone poorly plain and simple.
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Yeah but wasn't the skyrocket released along side it? The lg nitro was right around the same time too. The nitro was the same price when I bought it but I wasn't sure I trusted LG. Go figure, now I'm using an LG, and love it.
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Yeah they both came out at about the same time. Looking forward to the next Nexus regardless though. LG has done well with their handsets
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Jumping ship

As much as i have loved my revolution, ill have to make due with parting. Between my career field, situation and the issues I'm going to a Gnex. Permavibe, reboots more constant than a 10 time repeat prison offendor every few hours, lost calls due to above, and performance (me being a game developer) I need to move on lol. Wanted to say how great of a support this place has been with keeping an everything but dor (dead on release) phone alive this long. Ill keep popping in to help where I can (i mildly realize I'm not exactly prevalent here) thanks to the help I've gotten, but at these prices a Gnex is (very!) hard to pass up. Thank you all thus far!
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Long time no see... Like since I was first battling crap out with Cubed! Anyhow, good luck with the new device... Hopefully you don't run into any more crap!
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Long time no see... Like since I was first battling crap out with Cubed! Anyhow, good luck with the new device... Hopefully you don't run into any more crap!
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About the only problem with the GNex is the signal issues otherwise the phone is perfect
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About the only problem with the GNex is the signal issues otherwise the phone is perfect
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I find that odd, its the best thing Ive ever made a call on. Maybe its denver though, the 4g is quite consistent here, and the 3g comes in spades. There was one point (for maybe 2 hours before a party) that on my OG droid I was hitting 2.6mbps on 3g, when the theoretical limit is 3.1, I was shocked. Now to try some of the "hot" spots Ive found. These are just areas Ive found that make my 4g speeds spike, and where I can consistently get 40-50mbps.
Right off the bat with 2-3 bars I got 25mbps down and 14 up, which is twice what my revo might get (same app + server even). Plus this was in a Denver Verizon store, so you know they show off the 4g to whomever comes in lol.
I certainly wish I could jump ship, but I'm not due an 'upgrade' until february... Unless I can convince big red to push it early due to my phone being a giant pile, I'm stuck with the vibration of death, slow performance, reboots, and screen freezing for another 8 months
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I find that odd, its the best thing Ive ever made a call on. Maybe its denver though, the 4g is quite consistent here, and the 3g comes in spades. There was one point (for maybe 2 hours before a party) that on my OG droid I was hitting 2.6mbps on 3g, when the theoretical limit is 3.1, I was shocked. Now to try some of the "hot" spots Ive found. These are just areas Ive found that make my 4g speeds spike, and where I can consistently get 40-50mbps.
Right off the bat with 2-3 bars I got 25mbps down and 14 up, which is twice what my revo might get (same app + server even). Plus this was in a Denver Verizon store, so you know they show off the 4g to whomever comes in lol.
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I've never once hit above 8mbs on my Revo even on Wifi so hopefully it's just the phone since that's a big jump.
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I certainly wish I could jump ship, but I'm not due an 'upgrade' until february... Unless I can convince big red to push it early due to my phone being a giant pile, I'm stuck with the vibration of death, slow performance, reboots, and screen freezing for another 8 months
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Well, if you hate the phone that much might as well just pay the early termination fee and get a new phone. Luckily I have till August might try and get the S3 when it comes out and give myself a birthday present.
Seriously.....dig deep, sell some crap on Craigslist, donate at the plasma bank....whatever. Just bite the bullet, scrape together $400 and buy a RAZR Maxx off of Ebay. Revo is at a dead end. I finally quit b!tching and just replaced the damn doorstop POS. When I went into VZW store to get the micro SIM to activate the RAZR, the staff confirmed the Revo is by far the most hated model in their 4G lineup, and they all hated selling it. Moving on was the smartest thing I've done.
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Seriously.....dig deep, sell some crap on Craigslist, donate at the plasma bank....whatever. Just bite the bullet, scrape together $400 and buy a RAZR Maxx off of Ebay. Revo is at a dead end. I finally quit b!tching and just replaced the damn doorstop POS. When I went into VZW store to get the micro SIM to activate the RAZR, the staff confirmed the Revo is by far the most hated model in their 4G lineup, and they all hated selling it. Moving on was the smartest thing I've done.
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Why RAZR Max over SGSIII?
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Why RAZR Max over SGSIII?
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Probably the battery. But I'd take the more development and better specs of the S3 over the better battery.
Well...for people looking to jump ship who have concern about the money, there's about a $250 difference.
Battery life is huge for me, and I've missed that battleship-solid build quality I always had with Motorola. For my $400, it made no sense to suffer with a C-minus phone any longer.
I run rooted stock ICS...so beyond rooting it, I don't need much dev --- although there is quite a lot for the RAZR....far, far more than there will ever be here...for a younger phone. 'nuff said.
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Well...for people looking to jump ship who have concern about the money, there's about a $250 difference.
Battery life is huge for me, and I've missed that battleship-solid build quality I always had with Motorola. For my $400, it made no sense to suffer with a C-minus phone any longer.
I run rooted stock ICS...so beyond rooting it, I don't need much dev --- although there is quite a lot for the RAZR....far, far more than there will ever be here...for a younger phone. 'nuff said.
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The build quality of Motorola phones in my opinion are pretty good since my brother has the Droid X (first one not the X2) and it's decent but I'm going to go to Samsung and give them a chance until more high end Motorola and HTC phones hit Verizon.
Found a great deal! GNex, dual incipio case, 3 anti glare screen protectors, 1 very nicely pre applied, and extended battery for $258. Does everything my revo did and then some, and I haven't even rooted it yet. Wifi tether included.
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Seriously considering canceling my Nexus 4 order now...

A couple weeks ago I hated this phone and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. But then Google fumbled the launch of the nexus 4 and I'm stuck waiting. I contemplated paying full price for a gs3,one x+, or optimus G, but $550 is just too much so I've been forced to try and like this phone, so what happened exactly?
#1. I realized since I got the ics update from day one I've been trying to break sense 3.6 and combine mods with it. Never did I ever really give it a chance so I decided to do just that. My old wcx 9/27 mod build was performing like crap, mainly Google now combined with my alterations so it was time to update, but this time I went for his pure stock build. The result is my phone is performing snappier than my Nexus 7, and I'm starting to like sense 3.6.
2. Can a case make you hate your phone? The answer is yes, yes it can. I shed the old otterbox commutter and I am currently going naked with a cheap tpu case on the way. It's a different phone without it. It's slim, sexy, and the screen is easier to touch on the sides. You couldn't beat the protection but it completely kills the asthetics and usability of the phone. For this reason I'm done with otterbox, sticking with clear tpu cases now, and only for grip reasons, otherwise I'd just go naked.
3. For once their is hope for this phone from a development prospective. CM is almost complete and these guys really have banded together to pull this off and I congratulate all of them. I definitely plan on donating at some point, just hard when my wife doesn't quite get that lol.
And then just other things like I'm certain that build quality of the vivid is better. Also I can live without lte, a removable battery, and sd slot but I'd prefer not too. Overall Google has just given me too much time to think.
I'm still keeping the order in now but my vivid will be kept around regardless. Overall we have a great phone here, just spent too much time trying to make it better instead of enjoying it
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I know exactly what you mean. I used CM as a daily driver a couple months ago, even though my carrier is AT&T and voice calling didn't work at that time.
Now that voice calling works, this phone has at least another year of life (maybe more?) left in it.
Lesson learned, though, I bought the Vivid a week after initial release. Now, I'm only buying phones after CM announces official support.
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I know exactly what you mean. I used CM as a daily driver a couple months ago, even though my carrier is AT&T and voice calling didn't work at that time.
Now that voice calling works, this phone has at least another year of life (maybe more?) left in it.
Lesson learned, though, I bought the Vivid a week after initial release. Now, I'm only buying phones after CM announces official support.
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It is nicer with official cm support but the devs here have done a great job with cm10 and the other jelly bean roms.
jh64dsb877r said:
I know exactly what you mean. I used CM as a daily driver a couple months ago, even though my carrier is AT&T and voice calling didn't work at that time.
Now that voice calling works, this phone has at least another year of life (maybe more?) left in it.
Lesson learned, though, I bought the Vivid a week after initial release. Now, I'm only buying phones after CM announces official support.
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Another year should be easy, hell I was using a Captivate to start the year with, a phone released in July of 2010.
I'm going to go through with my Nexus order, because I've always wanted one but unlike my Captivate, the vivid will be kept around for backup. Gonna have to find a nice sim adapter though because the nexus 4 uses micro sims
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Another year should be easy, hell I was using a Captivate to start the year with, a phone released in July of 2010.
I'm going to go through with my Nexus order, because I've always wanted one but unlike my Captivate, the vivid will be kept around for backup. Gonna have to find a nice sim adapter though because the nexus 4 uses micro sims
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cut your sim. not that hard( be VERY carful around the contacts though; said from expierience lol)
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
cut your sim. not that hard( be VERY carful around the contacts though; said from expierience lol)
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They sell punches cheap (http://www.amazon.com/CUTTER-ADAPTE...095855&sr=8-3&keywords=sim+to+micro+sim+punch)
That one even comes with some adapters

Anyone getting the One

Anyone going to switch from the vivid to the One? idk how i feel about htc after this phone, i mean its a great phone and all but htc bent us over and showed us the 50 states. thank god for the devs. But the phone looks awesome and its sleek as hell too.
I will be ordering one as soon as its available. 1080p display, 2gb ram, infrared behind the power button (I've missed that sooo much in my smart phones since my Treo).. I'm excited lol
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Wait about 2 months and HTC will probably come out with another revolutionary phone
What happened to the Droid DNA? The DNA has only been out for 3 months and HTC is already forgetting it.
I believe the answer is somewhere in the neighborhood of "When donkeys and pigs gain aerodynamic and sustained aerial motion" or the successful cloning of a flying Pigasus, whichever happens first... I'm tired of the 1 software upgrade and we're through with you mentality, the fact that you had to do a physical hardware short circuit to S-off and the point that the HTC One contains no easily changed battery, no place to put a microSD card...no, no..(clickty clacky keyboard noises) Computer says NO-o-o-o-o!
The DNA was released for Verizon only. All other major us carriers are getting the one, except verizon. HTC has already announced that 'the one' will be the only one series device in 2013. I understand everyone's setbacks. But I'm not passing up on a hardware beauty like this one. Not to mention it looks like every major dev team is planning on getting at least one. Check out the thread in the one general section to see who all is on board. Also everyone's favorite dev will have one too lol @jon
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I agree the specs and looks of the phone makes me drool.they are not releasing the one for Verizon cause of the dna
So I guess they haven't completely forgotten about their customers haha. But I do want the phone real bad. Also I'm curious to see since its the only flag ship they are releasing how often they keep it updated .
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Despite the incredibly large amount of times HTC pisses me off, I still plan on getting the HTC One as soon as I can afford it. I like the Vivid but The One looks like a phone I am actually willing to buy at the non-contract price
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I will be ordering one as soon as its available. 1080p display, 2gb ram, infrared behind the power button (I've missed that sooo much in my smart phones since my Treo).. I'm excited lol
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Wait.. this doesn't mean you will stop developing for the vivid, right?
The one actually is appealing though. And HTC is actually doing a good job marketing, unlike the vivid lol
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Nope...I'm going back to Samsung...gonna get me the sgs4 as soon as its released...I mean...its gonna blow everything out of the water and every dev team will have one guaranteed...not to mention how easy it is to root and flash rims on Samsung devices...no locked bootloader to deal with...no s off to deal with
I gave HTC a shot and I'm done with them :/ I hate having to unlock the bootloader...and s off - that's just stupid...they honestly make it so hard to customize your phone...heck it be easier to jailbreak an iPhone than get an HTC phone setup for Rom flashing, then you got the crappy source...and extra security measures...(in-call Mic issues for att users) - who's to say they won't do the same on the one....if the s off process is anything like the vivids...well good luck with that as I'm pretty sure the one doesn't have a removable battery /end rant
I guess you could call me a Samsung fan boy
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I won't pay retail for it but when my upgrade comes I'll get it.
My gf has one, and she loves it. I couldn't get it, though, because it doesn't have SD card expansion. I love my SD card way too much, so I got the Vivid instead. Couldn't be happier.
My one X is s-off a new method recently came out to do it, and it's nothing like the Vivid was cause I owned that to, never bothered to try s-off due to the stupid method.
HTC is doing a stupid move by removing microSD slots from their newer phones. We aren't babies, I'm tired of HTC treating us only a few years older then Apple does their users.
With all that being said, I'm not wasting hundreds and hundreds on a device that can't even include the basics like access to the battery and a MicroSD slot. This is day one **** HTC. I WON'T be getting a one, actually selling my HTC one X right now to switch brands. Sad sad thing.
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And here I am stuck on a contract for another year and 10 months...
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I believe the answer is somewhere in the neighborhood of "When donkeys and pigs gain aerodynamic and sustained aerial motion" or the successful cloning of a flying Pigasus, whichever happens first... I'm tired of the 1 software upgrade and we're through with you mentality, the fact that you had to do a physical hardware short circuit to S-off and the point that the HTC One contains no easily changed battery, no place to put a microSD card...no, no..(clickty clacky keyboard noises) Computer says NO-o-o-o-o!
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Is that a Little Britain reference?
And no, I won't be getting the One. Nothing could ever convince me to buy another HTC product. I'll probably end up with a Galaxy S4.
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just saw this:
http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleMobile.aspx?regionid=3&articleid=7444208
are sim and bootloader unlocked the only differences? still no removable battery or sd :S
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Yea im pretty sure that the only difference, but the only issue i see is the non remove able batter, which for me isnt even an issue, i have insurance on all my phones ( just cause i know something goes wrong and i always get them switched out ..always on my 3rd vivid right now) So if the battery starts ****ing up new phone for me XD yeaaaa hahah
I'll get it the day it comes out:laugh:
90% Yes. Still debating getting the SGS4 or the possible Motorola NXT.
Tapatalk sucks recently...looks like HTC is trying to stop source builds...check out h8s post in the cm10 thread
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htc and updates

really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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finalhit said:
really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!
... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
swaze said:
The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?
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Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.
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GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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Farewell Guys

Well i got the galaxy s4 yesterday so i will no longer be using the vivid. im gonna miss its horrible battery life, shoddy sense 3.6 ui, etc. but im gonna mis you guys. farewell.:crying:
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
Well i got the galaxy s4 yesterday so i will no longer be using the vivid. im gonna miss its horrible battery life, shoddy sense 3.6 ui, etc. but im gonna mis you guys. farewell.:crying:
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See ya around man, you'll be happier trust me, I really don't miss my vivid much at all!
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See ya around man, you'll be happier trust me, I really don't miss my vivid much at all!
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How is the Nexus 4 on AT&T? do you get HSPA? or is it strictly 2g/EDGE?
Yeah I get hspa+, usually 6-12mb, it's not bad at all. Just make sure they don't mess with your plan and put the apn in from your vivid, otherwise you'll get stuck on the regular 3G plan. At&t did that to my wife.
Actually it was a big mess. I got mine in January, and I needed a micro sim. I went to the store, and the manager ended up taking care of me, and she gave me a micro sim, didn't mess with my account, and I was on my way. Well when my wife got hers in march, same thing went in there for a micro sim, but got a regular employee this time. When we got back her data wouldn't work at all! So I checked the account, and for whatever reason the idiot deleted her data plan all together! So I call at&t and get it back but they put her on the regular 3G plan for smartphones and the Vivid apn wouldn't even connect! Finally I talked to an employee on live chat the next day and got them to put her back on the lte plan!
So make sure they don't tamper with your account! Either that or get a sim cutter and try it out!
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I've been thinking about getting either the Nexus 4 or the LG optimus G. Basically the same phone, I have another year on my contract but the Vivid is quickly dying out. After that I will probably jump to Tmobile as it will be cheaper than AT&T even with my corporate discount.
Yeah the nexus 4 was a no brainer for me, I was sick of my vivid, and I am under contract until march 2014, so it was the cheapest option. It's a nice phone especially for the price. But its not perfect either, I will warn you. Camera is a downgrade from the vivid, it doesn't suck, and in well lit rooms the camera is just as nice. But in low light, the vivid owns it. Also build quality doesn't suck but it's not built as nice as the vivid. It seems well built out of the box, but there are gaps between the screen and bezel that tend to get dust stuck in them and over time the back glass develops a slight creaking sound to it. Also the chrome around the outside edges gets scuffed, poor design choice imo, should of used a flat silver instead.
Figured I'd lay it to you straight. It's an excellent phone but it's not perfect. And make sure you get a case if you get one, back glass is very slick and the phone tends to make suicide dives on its own when you just sit it down. Happened to me twice, luckily, no damage.
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Yeah the nexus 4 was a no brainer for me, I was sick of my vivid, and I am under contract until march 2014, so it was the cheapest option. It's a nice phone especially for the price. But its not perfect either, I will warn you. Camera is a downgrade from the vivid, it doesn't suck, and in well lit rooms the camera is just as nice. But in low light, the vivid owns it. Also build quality doesn't suck but it's not built as nice as the vivid. It seems well built out of the box, but there are gaps between the screen and bezel that tend to get dust stuck in them and over time the back glass develops a slight creaking sound to it. Also the chrome around the outside edges gets scuffed, poor design choice imo, should of used a flat silver instead.
Figured I'd lay it to you straight. It's an excellent phone but it's not perfect. And make sure you get a case if you get one, back glass is very slick and the phone tends to make suicide dives on its own when you just sit it down. Happened to me twice, luckily, no damage.
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Thanks! I actually dropped my vivid yesterday from about waist high, luckily I always have a case on my phone. NO damage.
I know what you mean.
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
Well i got the galaxy s4 yesterday so i will no longer be using the vivid. im gonna miss its horrible battery life, shoddy sense 3.6 ui, etc. but im gonna mis you guys. farewell.:crying:
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When my wife's Galaxy 2 Skyrocket got its SECOND upgrade (originally Gingerbread, upgraded to ICS, then upgraded to Jellybean) and when HTC said that the Vivid would NOT get an upgrade to Jellybean, that was what made my mind up that this was the last HTC phone that I would own. I've had three, but I am done with HTC. That S4 looks sooooo good!
My dad and one of my friends have an Optimus G. Its a nice phone.
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When my wife's Galaxy 2 Skyrocket got its SECOND upgrade (originally Gingerbread, upgraded to ICS, then upgraded to Jellybean) and when HTC said that the Vivid would NOT get an upgrade to Jellybean, that was what made my mind up that this was the last HTC phone that I would own. I've had three, but I am done with HTC. That S4 looks sooooo good!
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I thought the same thing this is the last htc i will buy.
My Optimus G arrives Friday, looks like just in time as the forum is dying again (the 2nd time since I have had my Vivid.)
Yeah the phone is getting old and people are getting their early upgrades now. If cyanogenmod would of came last summer, development might still be going but now, too little too late.
Lesson learned for me, if it's not a popular device, don't upgrade to it. Yeah at first I was happy but a couple months in, the honeymoon was over and the bugs of sense 3.6 that were never address, terrible battery life, and no actual roms outside of modified stock roms had me plotting a plan to get a galaxy nexus... But by the time I had the money, the nexus 4 was out, and well that's a no brainer
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vividi
The HTC vivid is the best phone i have used.great camera.music player is good but could.have been better ,16gb internal storage.plus two or three more.plus memory card slot up 32gb.yeah the Samsung galaxy phones are good but for someone like me
I don't have the money to upgrade to a new phone nor do I have the credit to get a contract plan,I also have the HTC EVO 4g I use it to flash Rome and.listen to.music I do have a question I have asked this twice and no response, I want to flash Rom on the vivid,but will flashing Roms relock my carrier unlocked phone back to att,thanks
pspfreek3691 said:
The HTC vivid is the best phone i have used.great camera.music player is good but could.have been better ,16gb internal storage.plus two or three more.plus memory card slot up 32gb.yeah the Samsung galaxy phones are good but for someone like me
I don't have the money to upgrade to a new phone nor do I have the credit to get a contract plan,I also have the HTC EVO 4g I use it to flash Rome and.listen to.music I do have a question I have asked this twice and no response, I want to flash Rom on the vivid,but will flashing Roms relock my carrier unlocked phone back to att,thanks
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I believe it should stay unlocked
pspfreek3691 said:
The HTC vivid is the best phone i have used.great camera.music player is good but could.have been better ,16gb internal storage.plus two or three more.plus memory card slot up 32gb.yeah the Samsung galaxy phones are good but for someone like me
I don't have the money to upgrade to a new phone nor do I have the credit to get a contract plan,I also have the HTC EVO 4g I use it to flash Rome and.listen to.music I do have a question I have asked this twice and no response, I want to flash Rom on the vivid,but will flashing Roms relock my carrier unlocked phone back to att,thanks
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It will stay unlocked...
I unlocked mine and flash all the time
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Well it is sad to say this but I have officially retired my HTC Velocity 4G. I said before that this phone will be my last HTC but the HTC One was just to cool to ignore.
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Thank you all very much: as soon as get back home in the morning I may just do a Flash I do have one Rom downloaded for the vivid its. Alled Blitz
I can't remember who made it but from the pics it looks like a very nice rom

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