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This decision may come as a surprise to some of our readers, particularly given the sales figures posted by Samsung for recent product launches such as the flagship Galaxy S3 and Note II. Nonetheless, this year, the XDA Developers’ OEM of the Year is Sony Mobile.
The relationship between XDA and Sony has been frosty in the past, thanks in part to the locking of bootloaders, subsequent lack of updates, and Sony’s efforts in early 2011 to target open source community “developers” with lawsuits in other product categories (such as the Playstation 3). This resulted in many top developers turning a blind eye to anything and everything Sony. They eventually dropped the suit later on in the year, but that was no consolation to the community.
Despite these events, a change was signaled in September of 2011, when Sony’s Head of Developer Relations posted a notice to the community that they supported independent Android OS developers. Then in early 2012, Sony Mobile released the Sony Xperia S, the first Sony Android phone to be released with flagship-level specs. Soon after, Sony signaled a change in their stance towards open source development by releasing a guide for unlocking the bootloader on the Xperia S and then releasing not only the kernel source code but also a guide for building it.
In just over 12 months, they had gone from suing a developer that hacked the bootloader on his own purchased device, to providing the tools to unlock the bootloader on a high-quality device and giving users the instructions to build the kernel source. No other manufacturer had done that, nor have any others to date. That is full-on GPLv2 compliance like we’ve never seen before at XDA.
Here is a list of the other steps they took towards openness in the community in 2012:
In March Sony officially released a public beta of ICS for the Xperia Play when no other manufacturer was officially releasing betas.
In April Sony released ICS for their entire 2011 line of devices, becoming the first manufacturer to do so.
Their Sony Developer Relations team announced a program to allow developers to borrow devices for application testing.
In August the Sony Xperia S became the first non-Nexus device (not counting the Motorola Xoom) to be included in the AOSP device tree as an experimental device. They then followed that up by releasing the AOSP binaries for the Xperia S.
Later in August Sony began open-sourcing their own code for the Dynamic Android Sensor Hardware Abstraction Layer (DASH for short) to the community.
In October they joined XDA at the Big Android BBQ to discuss their plans for further open source interaction in the community.
They announced they would be taking the lead for the AOSP source for the Xperia S and manage it themselves in their own github, and begin merging in Android 4.2.
They continue to utilize their highly active development blog where their developer team discusses their views on Android, and announce preview “Alpha” and “Beta” builds of updated device firmware and seek user feedback.
CyanogenMod custom firmware distribution is maintained for several Sony devices by a number of Sony Mobile developers, in their own time.
Given the recent trend by companies such as Samsung to often overlook the custom ROM developer community (in favor of application developers), it is refreshing to see Sony going far beyond what is required to improve the experience of their devices for anyone interested in developing for the platform. Given their contributions to the Android community-at-large in 2012 alone, and their complete turn around in less than 16 months, Sony is XDA’s OEM of the Year for 2012!
If you’re looking for a couple great options for Sony devices, we recommend the Xperia S or the Xperia T.
Now, what we really want to hear is YOUR top OEM for 2012. Vote below to let us know!
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The only thing holding me back from this device is the locked boot loader:crying:
Pretty sure one major reason why LG won't make the bootloader open is the exclusive game and software contracts they have on this phone with certain service providers in Asia.
The funny thing about Sony, and other companies, is that they will only release a bootloader like this if someone is not willing to pay to keep it closed. So the praise for Sony here is a bit misplaced, to put it like that. Generally rooted phones receive a limited amount of support afterwards, simply because they believe they don't earn any money on them afterwards.
I.e., the only reason Sony does something like this isn't because they will design their own software shell to operate with other shells. Instead it's for two reasons:
1. They're 100% confident that rooted shells are inferior to theirs, and is locked down in certain ways that makes it useless as far as replacing the original one.
2. They realize that an extremely small number of people actually do root their phones or use a custom kernel.
Now, if they came out and said: "We have a sales philsophy that isn't tied to the locked down shell, and instead one that is focused on the device and the features of the device only. While the software we have can be used interchangeably with other shells, because of the way it's designed from the bottom up to do so - and we encourage the community to create their variants of the surrounding software package". If they did that, they'd deserve praise.
Something like this - well, that's about the same level as praising a mugger for telling you where he's going to fence your stuff.
UIQrules said:
Pretty sure one major reason why LG won't make the bootloader open is the exclusive game and software contracts they have on this phone with certain service providers in Asia.
The funny thing about Sony, and other companies, is that they will only release a bootloader like this if someone is not willing to pay to keep it closed. So the praise for Sony here is a bit misplaced, to put it like that. Generally rooted phones receive a limited amount of support afterwards, simply because they believe they don't earn any money on them afterwards.
I.e., the only reason Sony does something like this isn't because they will design their own software shell to operate with other shells. Instead it's for two reasons:
1. They're 100% confident that rooted shells are inferior to theirs, and is locked down in certain ways that makes it useless as far as replacing the original one.
2. They realize that an extremely small number of people actually do root their phones or use a custom kernel.
Now, if they came out and said: "We have a sales philsophy that isn't tied to the locked down shell, and instead one that is focused on the device and the features of the device only. While the software we have can be used interchangeably with other shells, because of the way it's designed from the bottom up to do so - and we encourage the community to create their variants of the surrounding software package". If they did that, they'd deserve praise.
Something like this - well, that's about the same level as praising a mugger for telling you where he's going to fence your stuff.
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Well you are actually misguided on this one. Sony's Developer Relations team does not want any of their device's bootloader locked - it's the carriers who desire them locked. At the executive level, Sony has to deal with misperception that unlocked bootloader == rooted phone. They are slowly changing that mindset, but it's an uphill battle. There are a large number of Sony devices capable of being unlocked, and they go to great lengths to make sure they help the user do it.
What will always be a struggle is the carrier's and their hold on the industry. Once that hold gets loosened, then we'll see a lot more positive things.
Hey,
I created this thread because I enjoyed a very similar thread back in the day I owned my Desire S (still visit it quite often, the thread has +1300 replies (!) ). It serves to reduce the ammount of off-topicness between the (development / other) threads, also to have a laugh and ask some questions regarding various subjects. Young or old, noob or developer; everyone's welcome.
Feel free to talk and troll about anything, aslong as it's within the Forum Rules
Let's go.
I'll start.
So who else among here haven't had any Apple products in your family. I do.
My Miss has a One x, daughter has Xperia P, and the youngest has Asus TF300 tab. We're an android fan family. No Mac for us as well, 2 desktop Windows PC in the house.
And yes I guess I'm old for xda, I'm already on my thirties and I think some of you here are as young as my kids.
Tapatalked from my bricked TX
No Apple products here too!
My family are apple and blackberry unfortunately, the only reason my mum has android is I donated her my old zte blade
Only 19 years of age here, I'm probably on the younger side of most people around here
Well I got a Mrs who can't tell me why she wanted a iPhone.
Me - so what features do you want?
Mrs - an iPhone so I can have apps and stuff like that, and a web browser.
Me - ummm what about a decent andriod phone.
Mrs - why do I want a robot I want a phone.
That's what I'm up against.
My sons both have my HTC's that I have owned.
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My ex gf wanted an iPhone when I first met her, then she saw that my Xperia X10 (when it was new haha) and realised that iOS sucks worse than 1.6 donut, she then got a Desire HD and was rocking ICS (PA, CM9 etc...) All her typical 'iPhone is the best' friends were amazed of how it looked and all the features, she now has SGSIII. It amazed me of how an OTT price tag gives people the impression that iPhone is by far the best.
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My wife wanted an iPhone :banghead: but I persuaded her to get an Android, now my daughter had an Android for her phone, plus two Android tablets, mine and my wife's and two windows laptops. Thank god there's no maggot ridden apples in my house lol
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djpbx said:
Hey,
I created this thread because I enjoyed a very similar thread back in the day I owned my Desire S (still visit it quite often, the thread has +1300 replies (!) ). It serves to reduce the ammount of off-topicness between the (development / other) threads, also to have a laugh and ask some questions regarding various subjects. Young or old, noob or developer; everyone's welcome.
Feel free to talk and troll about anything, aslong as it's within the Forum Rules
Let's go.
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Those were good days indeed. Good to see you in here! Waiting on a HTC One X though. Just couldn't resist!
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Those were good days indeed. Good to see you in here! Waiting on a HTC One X though. Just couldn't resist!
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Good to see you again as well
The one X is also a truely a brilliant device, some of my friends have it and I hear no-one complaining except for having to flash a boot.img every time they flash a rom. I just bought the XT so I'll probably be around here for 1,5 years or more .
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Good to see you again as well
The one X is also a truely a brilliant device, some of my friends have it and I hear no-one complaining except for having to flash a boot.img every time they flash a rom. I just bought the XT so I'll probably be around here for 1,5 years or more .
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Not sure why I said X. I meant HTC One! I had an X, but my son drowned it in my cat's water bowl! I got this Xperia T as a stop-gap. Actually very impressed with it. Had it since January and only bothered rooting it on Monday. Best stock ROM I've encountered.
Highly recommend using the Xperia Launcher mod if you are not already using it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021332
I killed my poor old One X a while ago and have been looking for something to replace it lately. I have the opportunity to purchase a TL for what I feel is a very fair price but I am a little hesitant. I really really liked my One X and do not want to be disappointed if I purchase the TL and regret it in a week or two.
Would you add $100 out of pocket and pick up another One X or maybe even a Nexus 4 instead of the TL?
Thanks!
camit34 said:
I killed my poor old One X a while ago and have been looking for something to replace it lately. I have the opportunity to purchase a TL for what I feel is a very fair price but I am a little hesitant. I really really liked my One X and do not want to be disappointed if I purchase the TL and regret it in a week or two.
Would you add $100 out of pocket and pick up another One X or maybe even a Nexus 4 instead of the TL?
Thanks!
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get the nexus 4 you would be stuck on locked bootloader
Rycon33 said:
I'll start.
So who else among here haven't had any Apple products in your family. I do.
My Miss has a One x, daughter has Xperia P, and the youngest has Asus TF300 tab. We're an android fan family. No Mac for us as well, 2 desktop Windows PC in the house.
And yes I guess I'm old for xda, I'm already on my thirties and I think some of you here are as young as my kids.
Tapatalked from my bricked TX
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Actually you are the same age as my youngest son, so you aren't the oldest around here.
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cjna said:
Actually you are the same age as my youngest son, so you are the oldest around here.
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arent lool im only 14
Yep there arent few young members. Back when i was developing for xperia 2011 there were like three 14 aged developers. I am 15 , but... still i think there are kids who like wasting time here.
And to start a new thing here, try answering that question: What is your favourite activity. Pass aroud some stories about it. I think its better if we dont discuss tech in off-topic...
So I personally like biking. I bike to school and from it. The past Sunday i was on a championsip (countrycross) and i finished 12th :victory:. And yesterday i flat my back tire in the middle of the road to school and i pushed my bike to school and missed 3 lessons and i think i shall flat more often tires cause ,teachers cant tell me anything, i have the "proof":laugh:
I got to be honest now as well, im 16 (in 2 weeks 17) and I generally like snowboarding (we have an indoor hall near), drinking beer with the mates in the pub, and apparently android development. I also like to go for a run once in a while
@MrTapa i usually travel by bus to school (25km) and fell asleep on an early morning. Drove all the way to Middelburg which is 40 kms further than school also missed 3 classes.
Next school year ill go stuying though, and ill have a bachelors pad (correct?) near school. Bicycle hello!
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Snowboarding is the one thing I love in life lol litteraly more than anything its snowboarding <3
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I like skiing but my father had broken his foot twice from skiing and he is very worried so i usualy dont ski mainly not to panic him
Sony Xperia ZR is rumored to be in the works! Quad core, 4,6' 720p display, water and dust-proofness again!
But... 8GB internal again... if it was 16GB then maybe this phone would be something interesting... but such a small amount of memory would run out in a moment.
Back to the topic - I love karate! I'm a student at Bydgoszcz Kyokushinkai Tezuka Group for about 8 years now and I tell you - if you want to get fit and be prepared for every uncomfortable and dangerous occasion, or just want to try something cool, try martial arts!
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Thanks for the advice. Turns out it was only an extra $30 I needed to add for the very good deal I got on a 16G Nexus 4.
Not strictly Motorola Droid 4 related, but for those of us in this section of the forums, I would imagine there is some level of interest in a phone made within the last 4 years that has a physical keyboard.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z#/
This campaign is a "fixed goal," which means that they will only receive the funds if they reach their $100,000 goal.
As skeptical as I am, I've put in on this. I'll gladly pay $60 for hope.
It should also be noted that they also stated on Reddit that they are probably not going to be able to have a secondary battery component as part of the keyboard.
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Not strictly Motorola Droid 4 related, but for those of us in this section of the forums, I would imagine there is some level of interest in a phone made within the last 4 years that has a physical keyboard.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z#/
This campaign is a "fixed goal," which means that they will only receive the funds if they reach their $100,000 goal.
As skeptical as I am, I've put in on this. I'll gladly pay $60 for hope.
It should also be noted that they also stated on Reddit that they are probably not going to be able to have a secondary battery component as part of the keyboard.
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I saw that, thanks for spreading the word. What's the scene for the Moto Z look like? Not going to consider jumping ship unless I can root and install Xposed.
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I saw that, thanks for spreading the word. What's the scene for the Moto Z look like? Not going to consider jumping ship unless I can root and install Xposed.
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Looks as though there is an active development community.
When upgrading from Sony Xperia Pro, the bigger and heavier Droid 4 felt like a brick in my hands, but I got used to it.
Moto Z+Slider - I'm tempted because it features a real wire connection instead of bluetooth+additional battery, but unsure if it's size will still feel comfortable in my pocket...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3779&idPhone2=4418&idPhone3=8094
Does anyone know how to contact the people who started the Indiegogo campaign for the physical Moto Z keyboardc These modern websites are too confusing for someone like me. I can't even figure out how to contact them. Or should I say that I tried and got no reply. I could REALLY use a physical keyboard on my next phone.
An update on this. The campaign finished successfully and they went to production with two different keyboards, one with no battery and one with an additional battery. But that's where it turns ugly, showing all the hallmarks of a major product-development fustercluck. First, a problem was uncovered that the keyboard isn't recognized by the Z without a major firmware update. Then, a large chunk of the team at Motorola in Chicago that developed the Moto Z phones and does software and hardware interfaces were laid off. And now, the update they pushed out via OTA from Moto has been problematic. Thanks to broader financial problems at Lenovo, the entire future of the Mods ecosystem is in doubt.
I have not received a reply to my request to purchase one of these post-campaign. All production has been placed on hold pending resolution of the software update.
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Oh, and there's also this:
Liangchen Chen - Campaigner - 9 days ago
When we solve the OTA issue of K1L and resume shipping, I will open for pre-order. I want to get everything 100% confirmed before taking more orders, and avoid future delays.
As for support with 3rd-party OSes, there's this:
Sean McCreary - 5 days ago @liangchen Chen Yes, I maintain the addison build for LineageOS, and we have been working on the requirements for Mod support for over a year. Unfortunately Motorola’s closed source approach makes it unlikely full Mod support will ever be possible in builds distributed by us, but I am hopeful we can add support for the keyboard Mod.
Phew.... so I'm lucky having acquired a new Blackberry Priv a couple of months ago - for the same price as the sole slider mod. It doesn't get any updates anymore but at least it is running stable... Smartphone mods are a niche market. Just as phones with hardware keyboards
Hey all, I'm Nirave. I've been a member of the forums since the late 2000s during my Windows Mobile days. I still remember how many times XDA helped me fix my Xperia X1 and the early days of my foray into Android.
Since 2009, I've been writing about technology. I used to run a UK site, and prior to joining the leadership team at XDA almost a year ago, I worked for Mobile Nations, Future, and Android Authority. I help direct all the content that's published across our family of websites, as well as the boring wider company stuff!
I've used pretty much every flagship launched over the last 8 years and always carry at least two phones. One is an iPhone, one is an Android phone. Oh, and I love foldables – my arsenal includes the Z Fold 2, Mate Xs, and ThinkPad X1 Fold!
Glad to meet you Nirave! I also had some Window Mobile device's which were a blast from the past!
nirave said:
Hey all, I'm Nirave. I've been a member of the forums since the late 2000s during my Windows Mobile days. I still remember how many times XDA helped me fix my Xperia X1 and the early days of my foray into Android.
Since 2009, I've been writing about technology. I used to run a UK site, and prior to joining the leadership team at XDA almost a year ago, I worked for Mobile Nations, Future, and Android Authority. I help direct all the content that's published across our family of websites, as well as the boring wider company stuff!
I've used pretty much every flagship launched over the last 8 years and always carry at least two phones. One is an iPhone, one is an Android phone. Oh, and I love foldables – my arsenal includes the Z Fold 2, Mate Xs, and ThinkPad X1 Fold!
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Other things to know about Nirave: he doesn't sleep, he is a great cook (if you like a killer curry), and he likes to buy more phones than he actually needs or will ever use (ahem, I think he learned that from me...).
I know many other secrets about Nirave that I'll undoubtedly reveal over time. xD
i once was knew good cook ..
it was fun .. xD