http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/4/42...id-bootloaders-are-still-held-by-the-carriers
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Sprint appears to be the most loving when it comes to XDA or Rootz development.
EDIT: 3,900th post!
You can barely even get a GS4 on T-Mobile. Me and my buddy tried every store in San Antonio. All out for weeks or more. I then rubbed in how Sprint was awesome
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annnd there goes credibity for the verge
k0nane has been rocking custom recovery on his sgs4 for tmobile for a few days now. in fact oudhs recovery
shabbypenguin said:
annnd there goes credibity for the verge
k0nane has been rocking custom recovery on his sgs4 for tmobile for a few days now. in fact oudhs recovery
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Steve kondik has been running CM on his tmo S4 since early this week.
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Steve kondik has been running CM on his tmo S4 since early this week.
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right, my point wasnt a pissing contest, more of clearly its not locked like the verge claims it is
i guess i dont get teh reference?
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i guess i dont get teh reference?
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Yeah me either. Guess I was just trying to be cool. Sounded a lot better before I posted it. Can't win em all I guess
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Yo does anyone know if this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263788 applies to us on sprint? do we not have any updates yet?
even if it does, install a stock rooted rom that has a patched kernel
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even if it does, install a stock rooted rom that has a patched kernel
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So it does though? I know you could just install a custom kernel. . but it might not be the latest.. seeing as that apparently its even enabled in the source.
yeah they are great when it comes to things like this....
But this makes me not glad I'm on Sprint
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yeah they are great when it comes to things like this....
But this makes me not glad I'm on Sprint
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Yeah we just can't win. Meanwhile Verizon users will be pulling 20mb+
I was contemplating leaving Sprint, BUT LTE is going up all over the place here and depending on signal strength I get great LTE speeds.
Plus with my Sero plan, I'm glad I stuck with Sprint.
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yeah they are great when it comes to things like this....
But this makes me not glad I'm on Sprint
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That's terrible speeds. Mine used to be slow but now my area has full LTE and I get speeds between 20 to 30 down and 5 to 8 up consistently. Plus unlimited makes it totally tje best.
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That's terrible speeds. Mine used to be slow but now my area has full LTE and I get speeds between 20 to 30 down and 5 to 8 up consistently. Plus unlimited makes it totally tje best.
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They must still be deploying here cause I only get 1.5 down
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i wish i was on the same boat:crying:
Okay, even if the T-Mobile variant is unlocked, most people will have a locked bootloader on their S4. Sprint's still the minority.
Update: *The T-Mobile Galaxy S4 currently has an unlocked bootloader, contrary to the company's statement to The Verge, we have reached out for more information. Thanks to François Simond and Justin Case for the correction.
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Hopefully the AT&T/Verizon variants will be as easy to unlock as the S3 was on Verizon. It didn't seem to take too long for the S3/Note 2 to have their bootloader unlocked.
S4 on Sprint so far.
Hey there... about Sprint:
Was pretty happy with picking up my S4 from Sprint.
Went to check it out on the second day of sales. They said, "Oh, we just sold the last one a couple hours ago."
I was all like, "Oh crap, and I wasn't going to come at all because I thought they would be sold out."
The guy said, "We will have more tomorrow"
So I came back the next day and got one!
Overstew said:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/4/42...id-bootloaders-are-still-held-by-the-carriers
Sprint appears to be the most loving when it comes to XDA or Rootz development.
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This is what is confusing to me. If it is 100% up to the carriers (like everyone keeps saying) on whether a device is locked or not than how come they lock one device and not the other? Things that make you go Hmmmm.
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After 14+ long months, I am finally leaving the Evo and Android for good. I gave it two shots (G1 and Evo), and both times it was underwhelming. I actually preferred the experience I had with the G1 than I did with the Evo.
I'll be picking up my iPhone tomorrow morning once I get out of class.
inb4 rude comments
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After 14+ long months, I am finally leaving the Evo and Android for good. I gave it two shots (G1 and Evo), and both times it was underwhelming. I actually preferred the experience I had with the G1 than I did with the Evo.
I'll be picking up my iPhone tomorrow morning once I get out of class.
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Enjoy your new experience.
EVO on Tapatalk
The day after tomorrow...
I'll be back... soon
bjb_nyj101 said:
After 14+ long months, I am finally leaving the Evo and Android for good. I gave it two shots (G1 and Evo), and both times it was underwhelming. I actually preferred the experience I had with the G1 than I did with the Evo.
I'll be picking up my iPhone tomorrow morning once I get out of class.
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Good bye. Enjoy ur locked down piece of crap. A smaller screen. No flash support. And be dumbed down to the fullest. Stay in school cause ur gonna need every bit of knowledge u can soak up inorder to counteract ur stupidity
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Good bye. Enjoy ur locked down piece of crap. A smaller screen. No flash support. And be dumbed down to the fullest. Stay in school cause ur gonna need every bit of knowledge u can soak up inorder to counteract ur stupidity
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Lol
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No one cares if you leave or stay. To each his own.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Yeah I love the announcement, like its androids fault. The newest iphone release is outdated. Imagine it in 3 or 4 months. The iphone is for people who can't mod and like being told what's cool
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I actually preferred the experience I had with the G1 than I did with the Evo
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If that isn't the biggest troll comment ever made on these boards I dont know what is.
How would you like the G1 better than the evo?
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The posters on here seem sad to see you leave.... cya
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After 14+ long months, I am finally leaving the Evo and Android for good. I gave it two shots (G1 and Evo), and both times it was underwhelming. I actually preferred the experience I had with the G1 than I did with the Evo.
I'll be picking up my iPhone tomorrow morning once I get out of class.
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...I'll be picking up my iPhone tomorrow morning once I get out of class.
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Sucks to be you...
Lol I just can't get enough of Android. Just returned to the evo from a gs2. Probably picking up a 4s to compliment my evo. Plus Cra******* trade market will be CRAZY. Maybe I get my tablet and some cash. One thing is for sure, I'm waiting on LTE and the dual core phones for that.
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This is the OP right about now.
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This is the OP right about now.
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I got a good laugh out of that.
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Oh my ...
LOL
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You guys are insane someone can't say they're leaving for an iphone because they're automatically flamed and obviously stupid. I like android but I prefer ios. Yet I'm still here. Android just seems to be all over the place and all unorganized right now. It seems like I get a new phone and the week after that a new much better phone is released and our is outdated. There's also the issue where some apps don't work on some phones because of the hardware or some other bull excuse like they did with netflix. We get dumbed down apps all the time. Like they don't even care about us android users. I still love android I just wish it was better.
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Android ****s on iPhone .. but to each his own.
He had to have a bootleg Evo bought in China town.
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Android ****s on iPhone .. but to each his own.
He had to have a bootleg Evo bought in China town.
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Your comparing software to hardware. Android ****s on ios? Is that what you mean?
If I had to weigh in I would say that neither is better, tho ios even tho stole the notification system, implemented it better then android. That's neither here nor there. I say they each offer a different user experience, yes you can get great battery life, after an android phone gets rooted and modified. Tho I have yet to be able to watch looped video on my evo for 7 hours straight...
I think the main difference is the app store, android users are cheap as ****. They will use warez, they will not donate(I'm speaking generally). So better support and better apps make their way to ios first. Yes we have the same apps on android but android fragmented system is ****ed up. I love android, but reguardless how you look at it. They are different. Really don't think people should get all pissy about it. Crazy how some people act towards another human just because they like a different phone. I think our priorities are messed up.
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I was at the mall yesterday and my family has been having problems with AT&T
and considering switching so we checked out verizon...
I live in a city of about 80k so its suprising verizon actually has LTE where i am... AT&T only has 4g so i was pretty eager to try it out..
Well, i was really impressed!! I got 20mps down and 10mps up.
In comparison i tried out a iphone 3gs on at&t and it got .31mps down and .1mps up. Normally its better though like 1.7mps down 1 mps up.
Its really cool to see how far mobile techlogy has come!! Its faster then my home internet lol!
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I was at the mall yesterday and my family has been having problems with AT&T
and considering switching so we checked out verizon...
I live in a city of about 80k so its suprising verizon actually has LTE where i am... AT&T only has 4g so i was pretty eager to try it out..
Well, i was really impressed!! I got 20mps down and 10mps up.
In comparison i tried out a iphone 3gs on at&t and it got .31mps down and .1mps up. Normally its better though like 1.7mps down 1 mps up.
Its really cool to see how far mobile techlogy has come!! Its faster then my home internet lol!
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20 megapixels down? Wow. That's impressive.
Yeah I remember when I did my first LTE speed test, I'll never settle for anything less now.
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This is T-Mobile btw ^^^^
The only thing is, Verizon has better upload speeds.
(I have Verizon as well as T-Mobile (and an AT&T MVNO....RedPocket)
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
Babydoll25 said:
This is T-Mobile btw ^^^^
The only thing is, Verizon has better upload speeds.
(I have Verizon as well as T-Mobile (and an AT&T MVNO....RedPocket)
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
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Your lucky. If you lived anywhere around where I live those decimals would be moved one digit to the left on Tmo.
I get at least 20 down and 5 up. I have personally gotten as high as 44 down and average in the 25-30 down range.
Been with Verizon for years, and yes its a little pricer than other providers but you get what you pay for.
A bigger LTE network than the other big 3 carriers combined.
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deadlocked007 said:
Still better than sprint lmao....
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Yup, your right.
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20 megapixels down? Wow. That's impressive.
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fail spelling lol
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Yeah I remember when I did my first LTE speed test, I'll never settle for anything less now.
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Yeah, i serousily hate AT&T now because all i get is 4G. And since il have a iphone il only get 3G >.>
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fail spelling lol
Yeah, i serousily hate AT&T now because all i get is 4G. And since il have a iphone il only get 3G >.>
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Well you did say 20mps down...
MP=Megapixel
MB=Megabyte/bit (whatever it is)
wow
Adauth said:
I get at least 20 down and 5 up. I have personally gotten as high as 44 down and average in the 25-30 down range.
Been with Verizon for years, and yes its a little pricer than other providers but you get what you pay for.
A bigger LTE network than the other big 3 carriers combined.
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Ive got VZW but have never seen above 15 down and that is rare! usually around 8-10.
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Well you did say 20mps down...
MP=Megapixel
MB=Megabyte/bit (whatever it is)
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There's always that one douche
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I still have 3G due to financial hardships. 4G and lte is just too expensive...
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veeman said:
Well you did say 20mps down...
MP=Megapixel
MB=Megabyte/bit (whatever it is)
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Cheat sheet
MB = megabyte
Mb = megabit
1 byte = 8 bits
That just took me like 10 mins to type with Swype.
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decalex said:
Cheat sheet
MB = megabyte
Mb = megabit
1 byte = 8 bits
That just took me like 10 mins to type with Swype.
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I always get those two mixed up. Lol.
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There's always that one douche
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It seems Vodafone Ireland and 3 Ireland are going together and bringing LTE to Ireland. LOL!
http://www.mblogie.com/index.php/638/irelands-slow-roll-out-of-4g-mobile-services/
Can you talk and surf on the new VZ LTE?
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Can you talk and surf on the new VZ LTE?
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Yup.
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Yup.
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I was fooling around with some tests...that was one of them.
So I've been working at it for a while, and I've finally got half of my immediate family's phones rooted.
To get my brother to do it, he wanted an app to work and he wanted his Optimus V to stop crashing. Sold on root and later ICS/CWM.
I told my dad about Titanium Backup and how easy it was to root the Motorola Triumph and he was sold. And now working on getting him to agree to his Evo V 4G. (although it probably won't happen)
Mom has a dumphone.
And once I unbrick my Samsung Epic 4G, I'll root it and give it to my sister. (Heh heh heh, technically cheating, but who cares.)
So my question is, how did you get your family members and friends to let you root and screw around with their stuff?
I mean, ahem, make it better? :angel:
I didnt tell my brother i rooted and flashed a custom rom on his phone. He has never been happier with the sudden unexplained increase in performance lol.
Told my sister it would make it better
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Everyone in my family it seems has either dumb phones or iPhones.
People always ask me, I never really ask them.
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Everyone in my family it seems has either dumb phones or iPhones.
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Same difference.
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kylec said:
I didnt tell my brother i rooted and flashed a custom rom on his phone. He has never been happier with the sudden unexplained increase in performance lol.
Told my sister it would make it better
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Hahahaha, that's hilarious Kylec. Something I should've considered doing. Didn't you have to wipe the memory to do it though?
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Hahahaha, that's hilarious Kylec. Something I should've considered doing. Didn't you have to wipe the memory to do it though?
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Titanium Backup...
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Titanium Backup...
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Gotcha
I just took the phone straight out of my brothers hand rooted and instantly flashed it. When he asked what I'd done to it, I simply said "You'll see".
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My moms atrix is stock but my dads is my old atrix and he wanted what i thought was best so i hooked it up. Now my mom complains ur dads phone is so much faster. She will come around one day
MARBLE WHITE GALAXY SIII
thebeastglasser said:
Hahahaha, that's hilarious Kylec. Something I should've considered doing. Didn't you have to wipe the memory to do it though?
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Yup titanium backup
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Chloroform, lots of it.....
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Chloroform, lots of it.....
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Works on the female 2nd and 3rd cousins really well. :good:
Oh we're talking about phones....
iok1 said:
Chloroform, lots of it.....
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Its my favorite pickup line...weird iok...I used that in another thread....on you....
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In case any of you are wondering, I just put a couple ROMs on my brother's phone... never had an OpV and it turns out the ones I put on it were buggy as hell... yup, he'll never let me touch his phone again
Unless I happen to have some chloroform of course...
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Its my favorite pickup line...weird iok...I used that in another thread....on you....
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I must have bad memory then.
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I begged them like a dog lol.
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My roommate got jealous of what I was doing with my captivate back in the day, so he wanted me too hook him up. I taught him how to do everything, and introduced him to XDA.
Swyped from my HTC One X using XDA premium.
Used Google Now in front of Mommadukes and she had to have it. She is now Rommed and playing in the big leagues. Can't believe how many stock widgets she had everywhere. Looking pretty clean if I do say so myself:
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Will definitely have to charge to do all this for non-family in the future. Going from stock to Rommed and fully set up is a pain in the butt =p
Very clean. Mind sharing?
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you can thank a girl on here
I just read on Flipboard that Sprint and SoftBank are gonna be one....what does everyone think about that...?
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I just read on Flipboard that Sprint and SoftBank are gonna be one....what does everyone think about that...?
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I think there will be some antitrust involvement like ATT/T-Mobile just a couple years ago.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-5...ear-vision-for-making-sprint-customers-happy/
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prototype7 said:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-5...ear-vision-for-making-sprint-customers-happy/
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I think something got lost in translation on that. A 300 year plan is not something investors want to hear. At least not American investors. That's a lot of time for something to go wrong or to fail to turn a profit.
DroidModder said:
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I read it on the verge
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I think something got lost in translation on that. A 300 year plan is not something investors want to hear. At least not American investors. That's a lot of time for something to go wrong or to fail to turn a profit.
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I've spoken to many unhappy Sprint customers, it might just take that long to make them happy.
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I've spoken to many unhappy Sprint customers, it might just take that long to make them happy.
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I am a Sprint customer. Their service sucks sometimes but the price keeps me with them. If the competition would offer comparable plans at even only slightly above Sprint's rates I would make the switch. I don't think they have another 300 years in them, especially without an American company at the helm.
Sprint and softbank. Interesting...
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Whatever it takes to get them competitive in coverage. I would love to kiss VZ goodbye.
I here you on getting rid of VZ, I got screwed out of unlimited data over a year ago and still pissed about it. The problem is I can barley even watch 30 min. episodes on Netflix a month or I end up going over with all the other data I use.
063_XOBX said:
I am a Sprint customer. Their service sucks sometimes but the price keeps me with them. If the competition would offer comparable plans at even only slightly above Sprint's rates I would make the switch. I don't think they have another 300 years in them, especially without an American company at the helm.
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Well I thought the same thing, but then i realized that I would rather pay the outrageous price and have ridiculously fast 4G LTE EVERYWHERE!!... unfortunately I am still with sprint
Sprint is alright in my books where I live (after I got the airave the only place left without strong service in my city is covered), but I want 4G everywhere I go, and faster and more 3G, and better phones (not their fault). If softbank keeps most of the prices/plans/contracts the same, and just boosts mobile data speeds and coverage I cant wait for Sprint to be bought out!
Yeah I agree, I hope soft bank improves the network and I think they should transform it into a GSM Network...id love that
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https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/464449952505401344
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I guess we can't be too far behind now.
HERE's a full list of improvements to Sense 6 for the M7
Thanks to @thoughtlesskyle for the below downloads.
OTA.zip on DevHost
Download it here
Firmware zip from OTA (pulled directly from it, haven't tested though)
Download here
Modified Firmware zip (removed boot.img/recovery.img/Hboot.img again still haven't tested)
Download Here
Stock rooted ROM
Thread is here
Schweet
Kind of makes me wish I bought a One Max.
A lot of people myself included were pissed that the max had the s600 chip in it. I would have got one if it weren't for that
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Sprint first to the party is not surprising. Though the One Max being the first is a bit different.
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Sprint first to the party is not surprising. Though the One Max being the first is a bit different.
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Yeah, that caught me off guard. People in the One max section are confirming the update. I'm hoping we'll see an update soon.
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Yeah, that caught me off guard. People in the One max section are confirming the update. I'm hoping we'll see an update soon.
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I keep an eye out here: http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e:FindAndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourHtcOne
Every update so far has been posted there before it is released.
Case in point One max: http://support.sprint.com/support/a...indAndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourHtcOneMax
Telus got their update today. Hope Sprint's coming up next. I'm getting impatient.
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Telus got their update today. Hope Sprint's coming up next. I'm getting impatient.
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Well damn another curve ball. I figured sprint would have it out before Canada.
Kraizk said:
Well damn another curve ball. I figured sprint would have it out before Canada.
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Yeah, I'm kind of wondering what's going on. I'd hate to see Verizon get it before us, haha.
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, I'm kind of wondering what's going on. I'd hate to see Verizon get it before us, haha.
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Don't even joke....
Kraizk said:
Don't even joke....
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Yeah, that'd be pretty harsh. Could you imagine though? It gives me the chills.
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, that'd be pretty harsh. Could you imagine though? It gives me the chills.
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It's as unbelievable as them offering the GPE of the M8....
I'm also slightly surprised our "insider" Tommy Jones hasn't heard anything.
Kraizk said:
It's as unbelievable as them offering the GPE of the M8....
I'm also slightly surprised our "insider" Tommy Jones hasn't heard anything.
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I've tried asking llabtoofer if he knows anything about the Sprint M7, both when he announced for the One max and the One for Telus, and I haven't gotten a reply. I even went as far as asking Jason MacKenzie, thinking he'd say something like "before the end of the month," but haven't gotten any replies back.
Rogers and bell just received the official sense 6 update, hopefully Sprint will be next.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/05/12/htc-one-m7-sense-6-0-update-now-rolling-out/
SENT FROM MY SENSE 6 SPRINT HTC ONE
Kraizk said:
Well damn another curve ball. I figured sprint would have it out before Canada.
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eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, I'm kind of wondering what's going on. I'd hate to see Verizon get it before us, haha.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Canada get 4.4.2 before we did? And then Sprint got it a few days later. If they are following the same trend, we should be next......hopefully
DNarsingh said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Canada get 4.4.2 before we did? And then Sprint got it a few days later. If they are following the same trend, we should be next......hopefully
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I could have sworn we got it about a week before them but I could be wrong. Either way I'm sure its on the way for us.
The One max for Sprint got it at 10am EST. I'll be checking my phone every day between 10am and noon EST to see if we got it, lol.
sense 6 update on the HTC One Max first before the HTC One? what's the reasoning behind that? :silly:
wonder if we will get the motion gesture features too? that would be sweet
Digitalkarma said:
sense 6 update on the HTC One Max first before the HTC One? what's the reasoning behind that? :silly:
wonder if we will get the motion gesture features too? that would be sweet
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@LlabTooFeR says no... I don't think we have the hardware for it.