It's the sense camera really that much better then the cm/aosp camera? Opinions?
Sense will be that much better cos it interacts with ImageSense and has software to make full use of it. AOSP will have to create their own drivers to make the camera work at all. Should AOSP ever produce super awesome camera drivers, then I would expect it to at least match the Sense camera
As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.
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As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.
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Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.
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Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.
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A pure Google version would probably only have basic drivers to ImageSense. If the device supports ImageSense, that means the drivers will have to go open sourced as well. Not sure how much HTC wants that to happen though.
Sense camera is better then AOSP camera.
Not for the zoe etc, but for the software and the ui
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when the nexus s was released i was a god send for galaxy s devs because they had all they stuff they need (source) to have a very good implementation of cm7
when the galaxy s2 was released it was hell for devs they ended up signing a petition with +10000 signatures just to get the kernel source and that took them over 6 months or so (as far as i can remember )
now with the HTC one almost as the same as the nexus 4's hardware , no ?
are there big architectural changes?
could they use stuff from the nexus 4 to make cm10.1 work flawlessly ?
The hardware of the n4 and the one are very very very different , so it won't benefit from the n4.
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Why did you think a HTC built phone would benefit from a LG built phone.
The soc isnt even in the same Series Never mind all the camera changes. There nothing alike
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An open SoC from QC is a step in the right direction, however sense kernels are quite different from those needed for CM/AOSP roms, so it's unlikely it will be perfect. The HOX still has niggles with CM today because some of the blobs just don't play along with non-sense roms.
These days if you want decent CM, I think you just need to buy a Nexus. If only the N4 were better I'd buy one...
Currently tossing up between this phone and the Xperia Z, if I get this it'll be under the mindset that i'll probably be running sense on it forever (annoyingly).
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what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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It's personal preference. CM10 roms are typically alot smaller and tend to use less ram so can aid device performance. Some people also just like running a rom like they would get on a nexus. Of course this all depends on CM10/10.1 being decent on the phone.. if it doesn't work well because of sense kernels, then it's not really worth it.
If you want to run excellent CM roms, I would suggest waiting until kernel sources are out and see what devs can do, or just buy a nexus (though there's no nexus as good as the One).
i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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i'm currently running aokp on my One X. the only real reason i flash roms is so i can have the status bar, settings, dialer, phonebook etc look like stock android.
is it possible to have a sense based rom that will be skinned to look like stock android? with the status bar, settings, dialer and all that jazz?
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
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mattman83 said:
Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
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ah.. bummer. i really hated the sense dialer
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Not completely skinned, no. Dialler is the hardest part IMO as there's no custom dialler that looks like the stock one does. It's actually the thing I miss most when running sense.
M.
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I would disagree with that to a point. I've used sense ROMs where, when you push AOSP contacts.apk to /system/app, you get get AOSP dialer and contacts. Same with mail is possible, if I remember correctly. I've even seen the AOSP settings used in sense (though, it may have been just themed that way) in jellybomb domination ROM. I forget exactly, it's been a while. I run just AOKP or PACman on my Evo lte. I buy HTC for the hardware, not the software. But, sense 5 is intriguing and seems to resemble AOSP more than in the past, but with the blink feed and Zoe (which is what I do find intriguing).
From my Evo LTE, yup.
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what is the difference between sense based roms vs aosp based roms? i've seen some sense based ones that have the same UI as CM10 etc.
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in cm your're guaranteed to miss out on some key features. For instance, with the HTC EVO 4g LTE (and the one x and all its variants as far as i know), CM cannot incorporate the sense based cameras into the rom, so your're really getting something like 70% of the image quality because nobody's been able to figure out how to use the separate, Sense-designated optics hardware with an aosp rom. You're obviously missing out on hmdi/mhl out so forget about connecting to your tv. There are issues with using mass storage from sdcard (probably not going to be a problem here though), amongst others.
CM is on the other hand, generally more customizable and smoother to run than sense based roms, but there are some sense roms (like VIPER 4G 3.X) that are imo right on par with CMX when it comes to great custom experience yet do not omit important hardware features.
I am coming from gs3. There were huge problems about it not being open source because of undocumented exynos by Samsung. Since I am looking to run cm flawlessly with all future updates of cm coming on my phone how is htc one in that field. Will it get stable CM? Isin't snapdragon 600 open source?
Snapdragon is always opensource. I am guessing the real problem with having a stable CM build on HTC one is it's features like Zoe & camera. Both require HTC's own imaging chipset on which are closed source. So unless you can consider having a basic camera then yes it should be stable.
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Snapdragon is always opensource. I am guessing the real problem with having a stable CM build on HTC one is it's features like Zoe & camera. Both require HTC's own imaging chipset on which are closed source. So unless you can consider having a basic camera then yes it should be stable.
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CM anyways does not implement these extra features right?
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CM anyways does not implement these extra features right?
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Correct. Anything that's not AOSP won't be in any CM build so 3rd party apps won't be in it
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Correct. Anything that's not AOSP won't be in any CM build so 3rd party apps won't be in it
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So what are the chances of a perfectly up and running AOSP on HTC One?
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So what are the chances of a perfectly up and running AOSP on HTC One?
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Using HTC's dedicated imaging chip is 98% not possible 2% if someone would bother reverse engineering the driver which is a very2x tedious task and I doubt anyone would bother.
So unless you require the imaging chip on what you call perfect then highly unlikely.
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Using HTC's dedicated imaging chip is 98% not possible 2% if someone would bother reverse engineering the driver which is a very2x tedious task and I doubt anyone would bother.
So unless you require the imaging chip on what you call perfect then highly unlikely.
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Care to explain that? What do you mean by imaging chip and what does it do?
HTC s last flagship one x still doesn't have flawless cm though its getting close. If enough major players get involved maybe there's a chance but the odds were stacked against h8rift as amazing and appreciated as his work is.
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Care to explain that? What do you mean by imaging chip and what does it do?
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The camera. HTC has always used unique hardware for their camera and writes their own drivers that are not open source so the only way to get the camera working 100% in CM would be if some one went through the HTC driver.
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nullkill said:
The camera. HTC has always used unique hardware for their camera and writes their own drivers that are not open source so the only way to get the camera working 100% in CM would be if some one went through the HTC driver.
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But how come MIUI team has been able to port HTC camera & zoe along with gallery on their custom Rom? Any idea?
CM Rom + HTC Zoe Camera = Perfect combination
Hey guys,
I'm looking to get away from Sense if possible, but I've found that the IR blaster app is pretty useful, so I don't want to leave it out.
Are there any AOKP or AOSP roms out that have support for the IR blaster, either through the stock HTC TV app, or otherwise? If not, are there any plans to incorporate something into the future versions?
There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.
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There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.
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that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).
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that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).
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zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..
Its gonna have beats (wont be present in notification bar and probably wont be in settings) and it'll have a good camera, not sure about all the features though.
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zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..
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someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..
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someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..
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here
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first link said no zoe. i would like your source, kind sir that said yes to zoe
Thanks! I'm going to hold off from flashing anything for the moment.
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I'm looking to make the switch to aosp. I know that the dialer codes only work on sense roms (#data, #775, #778). How can you get access to these when using an aosp rom? Is an aosp rom that much better than a sense rom?
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I'm looking to make the switch to aosp. I know that the dialer codes only work on sense roms (#data, #775, #778). How can you get access to these when using an aosp rom? Is an aosp rom that much better than a sense rom?
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I was googling this earlier, and there are methods which can enable dialer codes but untested on our phones. Honestly there are hundreds of threads on AOSP and Sense comparisons, but in my opinion, AOSP has better battery life (although sometimes I've heard that Sense has better battery life), Sense has better looks as it has HTC's skin all over it. Last but not all, AOSP ROMs, such as Nocturnal GE are usually always on the latest version of Android.
If you switch to AOSP (I am using LS AOSP Rom). You will lose some of these:
Voicemail Application
Dialer Codes
All Hardware Camera Features (e.g. Burst, Zoe, etc)
Blinkfeed
fryguy503 said:
If you switch to AOSP (I am using LS AOSP Rom). You will lose some of these:
Voicemail Application
Dialer Codes
All Hardware Camera Features (e.g. Burst, Zoe, etc)
Blinkfeed
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Of those, can you get back the voicemail and camera funct. back? What, then, really makes aosp better? I have only ever had an HTC phone. The only thing I know is the Sense. If I was to switch to say a samsung or something else, what is really out there for them in terms of roms?
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Of those, can you get back the voicemail and camera funct. back? What, then, really makes aosp better? I have only ever had an HTC phone. The only thing I know is the Sense. If I was to switch to say a samsung or something else, what is really out there for them in terms of roms?
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There are Third party Camera apps that will emulate the burst feature. The Voicemail app you can use Google Voice, it has a "Similar" feature.
The deal is, AOSP is a preference some love it, some hate it. I prefer AOSP over Sense, however maybe you like TouchWiz (Samsung's Shell) or *Shudder* the old Moto Blur.
HTC Devices are built around Sense, the hardware is designed to work with it, and only it. This leads us to the closed source drivers that the Camera uses. This is what limits the AOSP's ability to interact with the camera, e.g. Burst and Zoe like functions.
The only way to tell, is to just try a AOSP Rom and decide for yourself. Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup then flash (A Sprint Version, do not flash a GSM/International Version or you will have a bad day) an AOSP Rom. I suggest Liquid Smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647850
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There are Third party Camera apps that will emulate the burst feature. The Voicemail app you can use Google Voice, it has a "Similar" feature.
The deal is, AOSP is a preference some love it, some hate it. I prefer AOSP over Sense, however maybe you like TouchWiz (Samsung's Shell) or *Shudder* the old Moto Blur.
HTC Devices are built around Sense, the hardware is designed to work with it, and only it. This leads us to the closed source drivers that the Camera uses. This is what limits the AOSP's ability to interact with the camera, e.g. Burst and Zoe like functions.
The only way to tell, is to just try a AOSP Rom and decide for yourself. Do a Nandroid backup of your current setup then flash (A Sprint Version, do not flash a GSM/International Version or you will have a bad day) an AOSP Rom. I suggest Liquid Smooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647850
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KEWL thanx for the fast response. I've been looking around at all of the different ROMs out there. I've been consistently using either BADBOYZ or BADSEED on sense. Looking to just try something different. I have CM on my Nexus 7 wifi, just wasn't sure about putting aosp on a phone. I know I also lose the dialer codes that can be used with sense roms. Is there any way to bring them back to aosp?
One question that I have never asked and could not find anything on. Which rom type has the better signal, aosp or sense?
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KEWL thanx for the fast response. I've been looking around at all of the different ROMs out there. I've been consistently using either BADBOYZ or BADSEED on sense. Looking to just try something different. I have CM on my Nexus 7 wifi, just wasn't sure about putting aosp on a phone. I know I also lose the dialer codes that can be used with sense roms. Is there any way to bring them back to aosp?
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I know its not a perfect solution but when I use Roms with no epst/dialer code support. I just keep a nandroid of a ROM that does. When I need it its just a nandroid away! Works for me!
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hey guys ,
any chance that we have a ported pure google software for N5 ? Like from nexus 6p ?
I would never want stock Android, instead people go for something like Cyanogen mod. Which is a faster, more optimised and feature rich version of stock. Unfortunately the only CM release is now private. When it was public, while it didn't fully support the hardware - it made the device run way faster. The camera app is a big sacrifice unfortunately.
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I would never want stock Android, instead people go for something like Cyanogen mod. Which is a faster, more optimised and feature rich version of stock. Unfortunately the only CM release is now private. When it was public, while it didn't fully support the hardware - it made the device run way faster. The camera app is a big sacrifice unfortunately.
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yeah i know CM , the thing is that i want a Rom that does not have a stupid apps and unwanted apps that i think will run super fast at my Note 5
Cyanogen mod doesn't really bundle anything stock android doesn't. In fact, it probably has less depending on the google apps you install. CM is much faster than any bare AOSP rom I've tried. We don't realty have the luxury as the only AOSP-like rom we have for this devicr is a CM one which isn't even publically available.