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Finally a galaxy we can view in the sunlight with the LCD. This is what I have been waiting for . Ugly buttons and 8 mp camera but I will take it.
What do you think? It would make me mad if I had the S4, kinda like the skyrocket with the s2. I say hurry up and release AT&T....
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Full review from GSM arena can be found here
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-announces-water-resistant-galaxy-s4-active
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_officially_announces_the_galaxy_s4_active-news-6161.php
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Finally a galaxy we can view in the sunlight with the LCD. This is what I have been waiting for . Ugly buttons and 8 mp camera but I will take it.
What do you think? It would make me mad if I had the S4, kinda like the skyrocket with the s2. I say hurry up and release AT&T....
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On the fence here 1) 3 feet is hardly waterproof, so you could drop it in the toilet, not the pool. 2) Maybe a July release, not sure I would wait if I did not have the S4 in my hands now... 3) and most important, only 16gb. As a dude who waited the 2 weeks to get a 32, this is a non starter for me...
It is killer that its a user replaceable battery.
It's a very interesting device...if the Moto X doesn't turn out to be the über-phone I'm hoping for, I may sell my current S4 and pick up one of these.
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On the fence here 1) 3 feet is hardly waterproof, so you could drop it in the toilet, not the pool. 2) Maybe a July release, not sure I would wait if I did not have the S4 in my hands now... 3) and most important, only 16gb. As a dude who waited the 2 weeks to get a 32, this is a non starter for me...
It is killer that its a user replaceable battery.
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Yeah, but it is still worth it IMO. I wish they packed more GB in but looks good, LCD is huge for me. My HTC One will keep my busy until I can grab this beauty
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Yeah, but it is still worth it IMO. I wish they packed more GB in but looks good, LCD is huge for me. My HTC One will keep my busy until I can grab this beauty
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I MIGHT have to upgrade again when this release, waterproof/dust proof is a flagship level not-dumbed-down (except camera) phone is about the most sought-after feature for me that I can think of that is not yet widely available. I hope it sells really well so that the next iteration of the galaxy line (and other manufacturers) will feature a flagship level, truly rugged device. More depth on the waterproofing (say 10 meters?) would be nice, but hey its a start. Think it visually looks great too for what it is.
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I MIGHT have to upgrade again when this release, waterproof/dust proof is a flagship level not-dumbed-down (except camera) phone is about the most sought-after feature for me that I can think of that is not yet widely available. I hope it sells really well so that the next iteration of the galaxy line (and other manufacturers) will feature a flagship level, truly rugged device. More depth on the waterproofing (say 10 meters?) would be nice, but hey its a start. Think it visually looks great too for what it is.
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It probably can go deeper but they have to say that just in case there are complications. Just as long as you don't make it a practice to submerge very deep you should be ok. Personally I will just use it for mistakes like toilet and if I bring it to the pool but forget. I don't plan on purposely bringing my phone into the water.
I agree, I have high hopes, it looks nice, adds the feature I want (reason I avoided the S4 was the screen) I just hope AT&T decide to keep the bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
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It probably can go deeper but they have to say that just in case there are complications. Just as long as you don't make it a practice to submerge very deep you should be ok. Personally I will just use it for mistakes like toilet and if I bring it to the pool but forget. I don't plan on purposely bringing my phone into the water.
I agree, I have high hopes, it looks nice, adds the feature I want (reason I avoided the S4 was the screen) I just hope AT&T decide to keep the bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
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agreed. I spend summer on the water and winter on the snow, even decent waterproofing is a hell of a feature to me.
So how much bulkier is this thing? A rugged phone is very appealing.
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rschauby said:
So how much bulkier is this thing? A rugged phone is very appealing.
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did you click to see the photos? It is just a tad bit bigger, not too much
rschauby said:
So how much bulkier is this thing? A rugged phone is very appealing.
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Did you not see the pictures in the OP? It doesn't look that much more bulky...
wow surprised this wasnt vaporware. might switch if the screen is brighter.
Yup ... was about to say it probably would survive deeper depths, just not as long as your dive down lower.
Sounds good for people looking for a rugged phone, goes to the beach and stays on the shallow end, or your creepy voyeur at the local pool (if you're the last person list, please leave! ).
mattdm said:
Did you not see the pictures in the OP? It doesn't look that much more bulky...
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I was assuming that was a "fake" picture. If it's the real thing than that's pretty awesome.
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I was assuming that was a "fake" picture. If it's the real thing than that's pretty awesome.
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It is real if you click the link below the pictures you will see the rest of the review and pictures of it in the hand
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=577369
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buttons are ugly, but logical. im ok with 8mp camera and LCD rather than amoled; id rather have a brighter lcd over amoled
Anandtech have some more info : here
Weight: +21g
Length: +3.1mm
Width: +1.4mm
Thickness: +1.2mm
Avliable in Gray, Blue & Orange, both the Blue and Orange color are very vibrant judging from the pictures.
The decision to use LCD over AMOLED is probably because water can damage organic materials in the OLED display, a brighter LCD also is more readable in sunlight. Although LCD is also a lot more prone to Glare in direct sunlight compared to SAMOLED which doesn't reflect as much sunlight. Although my GS4 is not as visable as my HTC One(replaced because Camera couldn't get enough detail for me in bright conditions) in sunlgiht but the GS4's screen is readable.
475 cd/m is the max brightness of the S4 thats out now
I wonder if you could switch the "guts" of a regular into the housing of the active?
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I just got my S4, might go return this one and wait for that one. Looks nice.
Related
Pocketnow has posted a 11+ minute review on the Nexus 7. Brandon did a pretty good job describing the pros and cons of the device and the tablet received a very good score overall. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiu7_Auqyg&feature=g-all-u. The negatives were a washed out/dull screen and it takes over 7 hours to charge the device from 0-100%.
I could not stand that guy's voice. That and it looked like he was constantly mashing the screen just for the sake of it.
Personal opinion.
I'm a bit nervous about the washed out screen. Coming from both a Galaxy Nexus and an iPad 3 I felt the Transformer series screens were all lacking in color vibrancy. I guess I'll have to wait and find out!
Strange that his takes 7 hours to charge, other reviews like ubergizmo say 3 hours.
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Strange that his takes 7 hours to charge, other reviews like ubergizmo say 3 hours.
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7 hours over USB could be right, but surely not plugged into the mains.
I think the Anandtech mini-review explains the screen issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
The big thing is his note that the greens seem undersaturated, which will make it appear dull. Plus comparing it to a phone isn't apples to apples because it is a different type of panel due to the need for greater viewing angles. I'd personally lose a bit of color vibrancy if it meant that I wouldn't have to hold it at a precise angle to be able to read it.
Really? People dislike the screen now? The day it was released at I/O everyone was complimenting it and saying that it looked great. It even looks good in videos.
>I'm a bit nervous about the washed out screen.
The comparison was to an AMOLED screen, which is stupid, since AMOLED is known to be oversaturated and brighter than most LCDs. He's comparing a $500 device (Galaxy Nexus) to a $200 device.
Comparison at 2:50 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiu7_Auqyg&t=170
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>7 hours over USB could be right, but surely not plugged into the mains.
Given the ill-advised comparison with AMOLED, dude has little credibility.
There are many variables in charging. He's had the unit 3-4 days, and likely has only one full charge for the review. The first charge cycle can be weird.
N7 is very similar to Fire. The Fire has a 4.4Ah batt, and a [email protected] charger. From TomsHardware, Fire has 0-100% recharge time of 2:48. Other sources say as long as 5 hrs.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amazon-kindle-fire-review,3076-14.html
N7 has a slightly smaller batt at 4.3Ah, and a slightly stronger [email protected] charger (same as iPad). Recharge time should be same or slightly less than Fire.
With his competence, dude probably used a standard cellphone (1.0A) charger.
Is it me.. or that video was so choppy that I just couldn't take it seriously
e.mote said:
He's comparing a $500 device (Galaxy Nexus) to a $200 device.
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The Galaxy Nexus is only $350.
My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.
lovenokia said:
My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.
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Everyone's unit will have a choppy browser unless Google patch through and update for chrome before the n7 is shipped. Think I will just download dolphin browser until its fixed. Oh and I did like this review but I just thought anandtech was better.
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androidkid311 said:
Everyone's unit will have a choppy browser unless Google patch through and update for chrome before the n7 is shipped. Think I will just download dolphin browser until its fixed. Oh and I did like this review but I just thought anandtech was better.
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I hope the dolphin web browser will be ipad smooth, i really need a good browsing device, cause i ruined the processor on my hp touchpad, and sold it to get an n7. Google better update chrome quickly.
I'll chime in here with my own opinion of the "screen vs. AMOLED" thing others have also commented on. I've been trying out a Toshiba Excite 7.7 with AMOLED (same one as on the Galaxy Tab 7.7) and have an iPad 3. Comparing the two side-by-side, I'll say that colors on the Excite 7.7 are definitely bright and more saturated than on the iPad 3. In fact, one might say the iPad 3 colors looked "washed out" compared to those on the Excite 7.7.
However, if you ask me which I prefer when using the two tablets separately, I'd say I prefer colors on the iPad 3. They seem more natural, while colors on the Excite 7.7 seem unnatural and somewhat blown out.
Also, I wouldn't want an AMOLED screen on the Nexus 7 even if colors were so much better, because AMOLED on a 7"-ish screen (at least on the Excite, with a similar battery) absolutely KILLS the battery when backgrounds are white (or generally brighter). For ebook reading, which I prefer black text on a white background, or any app (say, Greader) that uses a light background, battery life is something like 30% less. Switch to a dark background, and battery life is much improved. However, who wants to adjust their tablet usage to avoid lots of white, really?
In fact, there's so much of an impact that Toshiba apparently tuned their AutoBrite feature (adjusting contrast and brightness for screen content) to really kill quality with bright backgrounds. In fact, it changes abruptly when scrolling a Web page that varies from light to dark to light backgrounds. It's distracting and ugly, frankly, but clearly Toshiba saw the need to implement it given the impact on battery life.
The Verge said that, yes, colors are "washed out" compared to AMOLED, but much more in line with the new iPad. I'd say, that's a very good thing overall.
lovenokia said:
My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.
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We can't go by software reviews right now. These tablets are all running a developer preview, not the final build. The only thing that won't change is the hardware.
revmra said:
I think the Anandtech mini-review explains the screen issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
The big thing is his note that the greens seem undersaturated, which will make it appear dull. Plus comparing it to a phone isn't apples to apples because it is a different type of panel due to the need for greater viewing angles. I'd personally lose a bit of color vibrancy if it meant that I wouldn't have to hold it at a precise angle to be able to read it.
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Thanks! I couldnt remember where I saw the color review. That for sure makes more sense.
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I found the Anandtech review a little concerning because of the temperature thing. I like warmer screens, but 5500K seems a little too warm. Can't seem to get any feedback from anyone who has one on white balance, either.
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We can't go by software reviews right now. These tablets are all running a developer preview, not the final build. The only thing that won't change is the hardware.
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So your saying that the web browser may in fact be all finished and smoothed out by the time of the release? than if so i am happy!
Isn't there already a thread for Hands-On reviews? This should probably continue there. Though I really shouldn't pretend to be Step666...
Was this guy smoking something when he said the back was "easy to remove"
I just noticed today that the colors on my new Nexus 7 are faded to a blueish tint. One thing is sure, compared to previous Nexus the colors are duller. This is definitely an intensity scale issue, IMO is a little off. I read also a report from ZDNet where they did a deeper screen analysis and blame it on "Asus incompetence" (their words not mines). I took a screenshot directly from tablet and a picture with the actual screen, so you see the difference.
SCREENSHOT white vs. ACTUAL blueish white
(picture taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
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Playing with the brightening settings did not do anything fancy. The whites have a blue tint and the blues are washed. I know that my previous tablet had the beautiful colors you see on the left screen. Not the new one.
I think for now I'm going to refund the tablet and wait for a better batch that will solve all current issues. I'm definitely sold on pure Google experience, for now I will use my Nexus phone which is an amazing device. I'm a little disapointed Google did not contracted Samsung for their tablet as they did for the phone. We would've had perfect tablets, even if the price could've been higher.
September 19th, 2012 Update:
The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
OLD blueish white vs. NEW white:
(both pictures were taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
Although my n7 doesn't have your screen issue. I do want the colors to be more vibrant. It would be nice if a developer made an app to adjust saturation (like PicArts saturation photo effect) and allow it to be applied throughout the system to make screen more vibrant.
There's a rumour that they are getting new screens which should hopefully fix this issue. I don't know when they're supposed to be in production.
I got my replacement tablet today. Is a C8O and has the usual minor lift as well some bezel spacing:
I was able to fix everything easy, using the warping technique. The screen is impeccable, no more flushed colors.
Didn't you get a refund on your old tablet?
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Yes, I purchased the new one today from Futureshop.
This is interesting as we have two Nexus 7's and one of them (it's a C8O) has the same blueish tint that can bee seen in your picture.
The other one is an older C7O and it has a much better screen with a warmer yellow tint.
I've wondered to myself if when the device became a hit that they might have just run out of the better screens.
How can I see is my screen washed?
There is no one with Nexus 7 around me to compare it.
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How can I see is my screen washed?
There is no one with Nexus 7 around me to compare it.
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This screen is very dull and looks almost like it has a subtle gray fog over it when comparing to my Galaxy S III. My unit is great aside from the slightly disappointing screen. Holding out hope for some software fix!
Unfortunately the SGS3 also looks blue. Hard to win! Haha. Best colors and brightness I have seen were on the HTC One X. I'd pay double the price of the Nexus 7 if it had that screen. Wouldn't even think twice about it either.
Does everybody forget that this is a 200$-250$ tablet? Want a good screen spend the extra 250$ and get a high quality premium tablet. For 250$ this tablet rocks I love it. FWIW... I own a galaxy tab 10.1
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Does everybody forget that this is a 200$-250$ tablet? Want a good screen spend the extra 250$ and get a high quality premium tablet. For 250$ this tablet rocks I love it. FWIW... I own a galaxy tab 10.1
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I don't think the cost of the tablet is the reason or should be an excuse in this case. This is after all not a normal $200 tablet. My $200 Nook Color tablet produces better colors and the $200 Kindle Fire HD has much better colors.
The Nexus 7 has an IPS display. I think it should look better than this. I'm hoping it's something with the Tegra drivers or something and can be fixed with an update.
Looking at the pics from my N7 I can definetly tell a difference the kids face is full of color and the blue is perfect and whites are white with no hues. Then looking at yours its terrible. Have you disabled the Nvidia smart dimmer? Because I have.
Picture of my nexus 7 screen.
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.torrented said:
Does everybody forget that this is a 200$-250$ tablet? Want a good screen spend the extra 250$ and get a high quality premium tablet. For 250$ this tablet rocks I love it. FWIW... I own a galaxy tab 10.1
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Didn't you forget that it is suposed to be good?
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Looking at the pics from my N7 I can definetly tell a difference the kids face is full of color and the blue is perfect and whites are white with no hues. Then looking at yours its terrible. Have you disabled the Nvidia smart dimmer? Because I have.
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The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
OLD blueish white vs. NEW white:
(both pictures were taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
TECK said:
The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
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Yup just like mine now I have a c7
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I have also received a nexus with the exact same issue! C80
Contrast/colors is very weak, and white seems overexposed in pics.
I hoped that I could live with it, since I got a tablet whith non of the other problems users are having.
Because of this thread, I have now requested a new one. So, I cross my fingers!
That dull screen did annoy me every time I used it...
(and I have lost respect to Asus, wtf! SOOO many having different hardware problems. Quite disturbing actually. A sad story for both Google and Asus.)
menkromsen said:
I have also received a nexus with the exact same issue! C80
Contrast/colors is very weak, and white seems overexposed in pics.
I hoped that I could live with it, since I got a tablet whith non of the other problems users are having.
Because of this thread, I have now requested a new one. So, I cross my fingers!
That dull screen did annoy me every time I used it...
(and I have lost respect to Asus, wtf! SOOO many having different hardware problems. Quite disturbing actually. A sad story for both Google and Asus.)
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Just got mine this morning from Carphone Warehouse in the UK, screen appears as others have noted grey and lacks saturation.C80 looks like I need to take mine back as well.
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Didn't you forget that it is suposed to be good?
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You get what you pay for. Yeah its made my Asus and pure Google but its not a $500+ tablet so you can't expect it to be on par with those
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TECK said:
The new C8O tablet I have now has beautiful colors, with automatic brightening enabled. The white is actually white, no more blueish tint.
OLD blueish white vs. NEW white:
(both pictures were taken on a complete dark room with automatic brightening enabled)
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Damn it, TECK! Mine looks nothing close to that good. Don't think I can do much about it either as I have had it since launch.
I'm def disappointed in the colors of my screen. Looks very washed out to me. The clarity is there when I compare it to my gnex...even though it has the same resolution pictures look better on the 7.....I don't have any other issues so I guess I'll just deal with it
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Hi,
the display of our nexus 7 really is a shame for a google lead-device.
Look here:
http://www.displaymate.com/Tablet_7inch_ShootOut_1.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#8
http://www.zdnet.com/google-nexus-7-bright-image-compression-blamed-on-oem-incompetence-7000001450/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57479059-94/expert-claims-googles-nexus-7-display-has-flaws/
or here (left nexus 7 - right nook color):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1380397&stc=1&d=1349526183
The Nexus 7 has a very bad white saturation...
So hopefully these things will be fixed soon by Asus and Google. And hopefully these things are not hardware related..
PS: There is a further Problem with PRISM smartdimmer too (appears after watching full-screen movies).
This can be "fixed" resp. disabled by editing a config-file...but it doesn´t fix the bad quality over-all...
Very disappointing for a Google lead-device!
True.
The display, for me at least, is fine. You have to remember, Asus made this tablet in FOUR MONTHS. There's gonna be problems. I've read dozens
of threads about dead pixels, screen lift, screen ficker, bad replacements, ect. Mine, for example, has screen ficker, but it's not bad I just deal with it. Not everyone feels that way though. Also, Google sold this at a loss.
Considering how great I think my Nexus 7 display looks, the op is really over-generalizing.
Pixel density and color rendition I consider superb for a device in this class.
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Oh great, another thread with someone *****ing
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I ride the light rail to work and frequently have people sit next to me that have competing devices, including iPad.
Before I'd read the articles, I was telling them how awesome the display was. And they would actually agree!
Then I read these articles and proceeded to stomp on my device and through it in the trash. Didn't matter what it looked like to me or even the owners of the competiton though about how vibrant and clear it was......
Just kidding, I still enjoy it very much and I used to own a Nook Color. I still can't see what the big deal is. Displaymate and the others have mentioned that the hardware is excellent for the display and that a color calibration is likely all that's required.
When that happens, I'll be like "holy cow!!!! Still can't see the big deal!"
Oh lordy this DisplayMate guy again with his graphs and charts.. Yeah he's doing what is called advertising his company by latching onto a hot item with unfounded negative opinions and "data" and it's working unfortunately because all you have to do in the tech field is claim you are an "expert" and anyone will put what you say to print. The N7 display looks absolutely fantastic and the DisplayMate guy is an idiot.
The first 4 links are about the same thing just from different places, I have no problems at all with my display and think it looks great.
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Oh lordy this DisplayMate guy again with his graphs and charts.. Yeah he's doing what is called advertising his company by latching onto a hot item with unfounded negative opinions and "data" and it's working unfortunately because all you have to do in the tech field is claim you are an "expert" and anyone will put what you say to print. The N7 display looks absolutely fantastic and the DisplayMate guy is an idiot.
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Uh, no, he uses actual quantifiable data that tells you how the display performs technically. You may not care about the details, and the differences may not make a difference to you, but unless you have something to actually dispute the data, you're clearly the one being an idiot - you might as well be a flat heart her railing on someone and their fancy 'science' and stuff...
Coming from the 1st Fire, this screen looks amazing and runs great thus far. Very happy with my purchase.
Even compared to a new Fire and went with this and I am wrapped up quite a bit in the Amazon ecosystem.
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Before the n7 I was owning the iPad 3, I must say the n7
have almost nothing to compare to the iPad 3 Disaply(only display).
But I got my n7 and it's pretty good display, not the best but above average.
ffs
I was complimented on how nice the display on my Nexus 7 looked just 3 days ago by my boss, who is an electrical and software engineer and total technophile... I think the display looks quite good, the color reproduction is truer to life than the over-saturated AMOLED displays.
In fact the Nexus 7 is quite frequently praised for it's display by reviewers, such as this one:
http://reviews.cnet.com/google-nexus-7/
Packed with pixels, the Nexus 7's screen truly satisfies. Its 1,280x800-pixel-resolution screen delivers 1,024,000 pixels, giving it one of the highest pixel densities of any tablet. The bottom line: With a beautiful screen, fast performance, a comfortable design, and overall great media options, the Nexus 7 is easily the best 7-inch tablet available and one of the top tablets on the market.
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I think most people complaining about the display are either used to the unrealistic saturation of OLED displays, have defective units, or are trolls.
The Google Nexus 7 has a retina-class display (215 PPI). The Galaxy Tab has a 169 PPI display similar to the Kindle Fire and the Nook tablet. For consumers who like to read e-books on their tablet, the Nexus offers a sharper display.
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Here it is in an article about tablets with the best screens:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57406607-251/tablets-with-the-best-screens/
Yeah... it basically has the best display in it's class, I really don't understand what people are complaining about. I think the display looks fantastic, and I am not newbie to smart phones or tablets. If yours really looks so awful send it back for an exchange because it is defective.
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Oh great, another thread with someone *****ing
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Umm...it's a fricking forum....for, amoung other things, people dissatisfied in some way to express it.
If its too much for you, don't click the post.
The calibration isn't quite right. Hopefully a firmware update at some point can fix it. But I can understand people getting tired of this topic brought up repeatedly. This has been discussed quite a bit. And I've been critical of the poor calibration, but I would not say the screen looks bad at all. I think it looks good, it just could look better.
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The calibration isn't quite right. Hopefully a firmware update at some point can fix it.
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Yes i hope they will fix it soon. The upcoming iPad Mini surely will have a display comparable to the iPad3.
And it´s rumored price is under $ 300,- too. So ASUS really should catch up with it.
Compared to an iPad 3 the lower Pixel density and bad color saturation makes (especially small) texts harder to read on our Nexus 7.
Fonts on iPad 3 are very sharp and deep-black - on Nexus 7 they often (chrome, flipboard, in-app settings-menu) look kinda gray and blurred.
Just compare it to iPad 3 and you will see the difference. If you don´t know how good it can be you will say our Nexus 7 display is good.
But if you have seen what´s possible on iPad3 you will be disappointed of N7.
I know a lot of "fandroids" always would say N7 is the best and greatest - i like the N7 too - but some things are bad and I don´t whitewash it.
Greens (and by extension yellows and cyans) tend to look more washed out on the Nexus 7 than on most other displays I've seen.
But colors are still better than any AMOLED I've ever seen. I'd much rather have a similar IPS panel on my Galaxy Nexus with its slightly washed out colors than the AMOLED with it's exaggerated saturation.
Who cares, some people have too much free time to nitpick
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Greens (and by extension yellows and cyans) tend to look more washed out on the Nexus 7 than on most other displays I've seen.
But colors are still better than any AMOLED I've ever seen. I'd much rather have a similar IPS panel on my Galaxy Nexus with its slightly washed out colors than the AMOLED with it's exaggerated saturation.
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That´s difficult .. AMOLED on Galaxy SIII for me looks a little better than our washed out IPS (especially on texts).
But IPS on iPAD tops N7 significantly (especially the whites, greens and blues).
What's all this about amoleds and "more accurate" color reproduction. Going between my gnex and my N7 is like night and day. I absolutely love how the colors are so rich and deep looking. Then going to my N7 the colors are "accurate" but look washed comparing the two. If there was a little more contrast on the N7 it would be perfect but things are just too bright, needs more dept and shadows.
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What's all this about amoleds and "more accurate" color reproduction. Going between my gnex and my N7 is like night and day. I absolutely love how the colors are so rich and deep looking. Then going to my N7 the colors are "accurate" but look washed comparing the two. If there was a little more contrast on the N7 it would be perfect but things are just too bright, needs more dept and shadows.
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The problem is that colors on N7 are not accurate at all.
Blue green and white for example are far off the sRGB standard.
And Gamma is too low...
look here:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nexus-7-test-jelly-bean,review-32494-5.html
or here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/3
color gamut is pretty bad especially compared to ipad3 (and upcoming ipad mini too ????)
according to this graphic the display (hardware?) can´t show all green and blue tones.
So we maybe will never see a softwareupdate which fixes our problem.
Was blown away. Felt like just writing it. Whoa. What a screen. The colours, the clarity! Am disappointed that some app icons look meh, but that's the devs' problem really, hope they put some effort soon, like they did with Facebook Messenger.
I regularly deliver to lg head office and went in yesterday. I saw the g2 and nexus. Well impressed. If only the nexus has a 5.5 inch screen id buy it
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I regularly deliver to lg head office and went in yesterday. I saw the g2 and nexus. Well impressed. If only the nexus has a 5.5 inch screen id buy it
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Oh I'd still go for it! just a .6.
This is kind of an understated spec on this phone, at least here. Some online reviews point out it's greatness. I for one think it is by far the nicest looking screen I've ever seen on a cell phone. It really makes amoled look bad. Really bad. Imo
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This is kind of an understated spec on this phone, at least here. Some online reviews point out it's greatness. I for one think it is by far the nicest looking screen I've ever seen on a cell phone. It really makes amoled look bad. Really bad. Imo
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Aside from the HTC one I completely agree.
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Screen is great provided you got one without dead pixels!
Also been reading about the yellow tint but I've either not got it on mine or don't notice it.
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Screen is great provided you got one without dead pixels!
Also been reading about the yellow tint but I've either not got it on mine or don't notice it.
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Dead pixels? Ugh, that must suck. Have you tried contacting Google?
The screen actually hurt my eyes initially lol. Trying to get used to it and no i don't wear glasses I got 20/15 vision. I guess I'm way too used to Amoled screens.
You ppl are over exaggerating the screen looks good but it is poorly calibrated. I cant wait for Paranoid Android to drop their rom with their display enhancements like they did with the nexus 4
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You ppl are over exaggerating the screen looks good but it is poorly calibrated. I cant wait for Paranoid Android to drop their rom with their display enhancements like they did with the nexus 4
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Screen is beautiful especially with Franco kernel and Cataclysm rom but like i said my eyes have to adjust because it hurts using the screen. Too many years of AMOLED.
At first I thought you were being ironic.
The screen is not that good, it lacks contrast and has very bad viewing angles.
If viewed from an angle you'll see the white from retroillumination, the more the angle, the more the white and the loss of contrast.
You should put this side by side with a G2. That is a beautiful screen.
By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others
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By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others
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I've actually seen that on a number of phones. The Optimus G comes to mind.
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Dead pixels? Ugh, that must suck. Have you tried contacting Google?
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Yeah I've got a replacement on the way. Annoying because I find my device perfect in every other way
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At first I thought you were being ironic.
The screen is not that good, it lacks contrast and has very bad viewing angles.
If viewed from an angle you'll see the white from retroillumination, the more the angle, the more the white and the loss of contrast.
You should put this side by side with a G2. That is a beautiful screen.
By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others
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But, the G2 and N5 both have the same screen. Just the g2 is bigger.
G2: 5.2" IPS LCD 1920x1080 (424 ppi)
Nexus 5: 4.95" IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3
1080×1920 (445 ppi)
I don't understand how there could be any difference in what are (apart from the diagonal size) exactly the same screens. :S
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But, the G2 and N5 both have the same screen. Just the g2 is bigger.
G2: 5.2" IPS LCD 1920x1080 (424 ppi)
Nexus 5: 4.95" IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3
1080×1920 (445 ppi)
I don't understand how there could be any difference in what are (apart from the diagonal size) exactly the same screens. :S
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Just because they have the same resolution and underlying technology (IPS LCD) doesn't mean that they're the same panel.
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You ppl are over exaggerating the screen looks good but it is poorly calibrated. I cant wait for Paranoid Android to drop their rom with their display enhancements like they did with the nexus 4
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No over exaggeration here. And you're wrong. It's very accurately color calibrated. So much so that there are a couple reviews on it reiterating this and the fact it is the most accurately color calibrated screens they've ever reviewed . If you are talking about contrast, that's another can of worms.....
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At first I thought you were being ironic.
The screen is not that good, it lacks contrast and has very bad viewing angles.
If viewed from an angle you'll see the white from retroillumination, the more the angle, the more the white and the loss of contrast.
You should put this side by side with a G2. That is a beautiful screen.
By the way, if you look closely under direct sunlight you'll see a pattern of thin lines, I suppose it's the digitizer. Does anyone know why it is visible in this phone while it isn't on others
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Oh I had those on my N4, The lines can appear on some phones more than on others of the same model. Can be kinda annoying, I agree.
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Yeah I've got a replacement on the way. Annoying because I find my device perfect in every other way
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Mhm, hope you get your replacement soon!
Lines or dots, all screens show it in sunlight and it is the digitizer. The screens are designed to be looked at straight on or to perform best for 99% of the time. If you want a screen that has over 450 cdm brightness, 4000:1 contrast ratio with .1 cdm black level, 180 degree viewing angles and any sort of energy consumption efficiency then you are welcome to pay $500+ just for the panel. Stop complaining!
I remember reading an article saying the nexus 5 panel is the most accurate. Not sure if the picture can show it here but turquoise came out looking very blue.
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I remember reading an article saying the nexus 5 panel is the most accurate. Not sure if the picture can show it here but turquoise came out looking very blue.
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I think it's just the auto white balance adjusting for the lighting conditions. That's a camera issue, not a display issue.
adjust some settings in your camera app, its way off! unless you already adjusted them to look like this, then youre way off
Okay i'll try it again with my qx100. Your reasoning makes sense.
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Your logic is flawed. Nobody said the camera had perfect color reproduction.
Funny enough, I thought the same about the display. It actually really bothers me. I came from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus (CDMA). I had a couple short 1080p HD videos that I would play on that phone. Just like HD test videos. They looked great on that screen. So sharp and the color looked great on max brightness. The brighter the screen got the better the picture looked.
On this phone those same videos and others, too, look kind of grainy. Like the display should be a little smaller to get that sharp, crisp look. Turning the brightness all the way up just makes the grainy effect even worse. All of my HD videos have the same effect / look. I even turned on all of the warranty replacements I got. Same on 4 handsets. Kinda disappointed in the screen in that sense, but hey the phone was cheap.
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Funny enough, I thought the same about the display. It actually really bothers me. I came from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus (CDMA). I had a couple short 1080p HD videos that I would play on that phone. Just like HD test videos. They looked great on that screen. So sharp and the color looked great on max brightness. The brighter the screen got the better the picture looked.
On this phone those same videos and others, too, look kind of grainy. Like the display should be a little smaller to get that sharp, crisp look. Turning the brightness all the way up just makes the grainy effect even worse. All of my HD videos have the same effect / look. I even turned on all of the warranty replacements I got. Same on 4 handsets. Kinda disappointed in the screen in that sense, but hey the phone was cheap.
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thats because samsung uses samoled screens. yes they are vivid and full of color, but they are more vivid and more colorful than in real life. where the n5 screen colors are more true to the colors in reality.
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thats because samsung uses samoled screens. yes they are vivid and full of color, but they are more vivid and more colorful than in real life. where the n5 screen colors are more true to the colors in reality.
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Agreed. It's just unfortunate that real life sucks.
I think this is a pointless thread
Flash Franco's kernel and adjust the color reproduction of your screen as per your liking..
Topic closed..
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I think this is a pointless thread
Flash Franco's kernel and adjust the color reproduction of your screen as per your liking..
Topic closed..
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You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
Edit: @ tech. Shutup lawlz, changing my gamma values, etc. Won't fix the grainy issue. Troll
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You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
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Dont know about your N5 but my display is same as a HTC One ..and similar to my iPhone 5 as well ..coz ppi> 300 is all the same to naked eyes..
And if u r in love in with those pathetic over saturated amoled screens then nobody can help you..U should switch to a S4 or Note 3 or S5(will be unveiled tomorrow) as soon as possible..
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You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
Edit: @ tech. Shutup lawlz, changing my gamma values, etc. Won't fix the grainy issue. Troll
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I agree, accurate or not it's not a very good looking screen. On my computer monitor or TV I'll take accurate colors, but on my smartphone I much prefer bright, vivid colors. I really think LG/Google and N5 fanboys use "accuracy" as an excuse for such a subpar display. Between the washed out colors and poor viewing angles, it's easily the biggest disappointment with the N5.
Um not visible to the naked eye? Actually it is. I notice it. With my eyes. SMH lol. Why do some people argue JUST to argue? There is a noticeable difference to the naked eye 100%.
Just because you never used the screen, or are a huge fanboy isn't my problem. My Gnex (like 3 years old) displays HD videos as sharply as my 70" smart TV. My N5 (new) doesn't even come close. It looks grainy and pixelated.
I think u dont know anything about displays ..and I hope you are not comparing a HD video..hope those are "Full HD" videos ..
And one of the best hardware review site said this about the display of N5 ..Now I dont know whether YOU are more intelligent and knowledgeable or the guys at Anandtech... The problem is that u were using a phone thats generations old now
.and here is the review..a part of it:
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Um not visible to the naked eye? Actually it is. I notice it. With my eyes. SMH lol. Why do some people argue JUST to argue? There is a noticeable difference to the naked eye 100%.
Just because you never used the screen, or are a huge fanboy isn't my problem. My Gnex (like 3 years old) displays HD videos as sharply as my 70" smart TV. My N5 (new) doesn't even come close. It looks grainy and pixelated.
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The problem is that u dont know about pixels either..when u run a 720p video on a screen that has much less pixels built in then it would look fine..
But when u run at a 720p video on a screen whose resolution is 1080p then obviously it wont look that sharp..
i have a Dell Ultrasharp and thats one of the best monitors on the planet..so trust me I know how displays should be like..
EDIT: The reviewers at Anandtech said that the screen is even better than Note 3 ..and u are comparing it to a Galaxy Nexus
I think XDA membership should only be given to those people who have basic technical knowledge so that threads like this one can be avoided..
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Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
Who cares if I'm comparing n5 to a gnex??? Gnex looks better. Colors don't even look over saturated lol. Maybe that's because my gnex has a custom kernel with custom colors on it.
Okay so we took out the part of over saturation. So now pixelated effect. Gnex > n5.
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Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
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you do realize that its a matter of taste, right? it might look better to you, but to someone else it might look like trash. "looks" isnt an accurate method to measure which is better, just like "feels" isnt an accurate way to measure temperature.
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It looks grainy and pixelated.
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Are we talking about the same phone here? LG's OLED screen on the G Flex is exactly as you describe.
Thankfully I haven't been tainted by OLED yet but I can safely say the Nexus 5's IPS LCD is of superior quality than my $400 BenQ 120Hz TN display from a few years back. Also much nicer to look at than the majority of 15" 1080p mobile screens you find in $900 laptops.
If you're rooted I think you can boost colour saturation which would somewhat mimic the look you're going for.
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Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
Who cares if I'm comparing n5 to a gnex??? Gnex looks better. Colors don't even look over saturated lol. Maybe that's because my gnex has a custom kernel with custom colors on it.
Okay so we took out the part of over saturation. So now pixelated effect. Gnex > n5.
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Dude..N5 has a full RGB display..Amoleds dont.. The only little tiny tiny tiny issue with N5 display is that the colors are warm and so there is a slight yellow tint..and thats coz the gamma is set to 1.8 all across..
Now if you correct that gamma then the yellow tint will disappear..Right now my N5 has a gamma of 2.2 all across ..and 2.2-2.4 is the most accurate for any display in the world ..2.2 being the best
Now if you dont have any idea what I said then google is your friend..
And trust me u need it..u r in need of some serious knowledge..loads of it..
And now I cannot waste my knowledge and time with you any more..this conversation is over..
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you do realize that its a matter of taste, right? it might look better to you, but to someone else it might look like trash. "looks" isnt an accurate method to measure which is better, just like "feels" isnt an accurate way to measure temperature.
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Whatever lol. I'm so done with this thread. I don't care how old a gnex is. It just looks better. Sure you are right, but as far as I'm concerned, that only has to do with the "color saturation levels".
I can watch the same video on both phones. Full HD. On my gnex, I can read the writing on paper money in movies. I can see designs / patterns in the iris of someones eyes. I can see every nook and cranny or the trunk of a tree.
On the N5 it just looks lower quality. I can see the color of someone's eyes but really no specific pattern. The picture isn't sharp enough. I can see a blurred image of what looks like text on money or papers on the N5.
Newer isn't always better lol