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I noticed a huge battery consuption in standby, about 38mA in stanby (on Desire was 5-8mA). I tried many different ways: disabeled mobile networks, hard resetted the device, but the result is the same. On the device 1.36.405.1 built is running.
Has anybody met the same problem?
Yeap, probably because sense is anoying, constant sync or something like that. And somehow I think they didn't optimized it very well.. probably wait for updates
And 1 or 2 mA is something I have never seen. How did u managed that?
I get between 30mA and 150mA in standby, rising to around 260mA when screen is on, peaking up to around 400mA occationly. I got these results from a free app called Battery Monitor. Would be interesting to see what others get, and anything that can help reduce the mA figures significantly ? I'm not overly impressed with the IS battery life so far.
there is a huge difference on stand-by battery consumption in htc official website..
with Incr. S you have 8mp cam, but with Desire S you got better battery...
The difference is huge.. :/
isnt is the desire S released with gingerbread and the Incredible S with froyo?
maybe thats the reason
However, battery lasts much longer than dhd, hd2, and even desire z! It's a fact, I have tested myself. It's all due that ugly bump at the back of the phone which covers new 1450ma battery which lasts me all day without charge.
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cant really complaign about battery at all, since my old phone whas hardly making it for 18 hours, this phone would even reach 36hrs for sure, and i use wifi at home, bluetooth in the car, 3g all day, and play games as well
CurrentWidget use to measure power consumption.
In standby using 3G i got 38mA, when i switch to airplane mode increase to 142mA!!! How is this possible? What values you measured?
battery consumption
In my case, minimum 36mA and maximum 440mA, but battery life very good, two times better as by my HD2, also better as by my, already sold, Trophy. I am curios when Gingerbread will come Q2 this year, will be better or not?!
I think Incredible s battery life is pretty good for me.
Link is my inaccurately test.Standby for almost 192 hours or 7.4mA.
Better than Desire HD,Desire Z and Desire in my hand.
link:
retujoy.blogspot.com/2011/03/htc-incredible-s.html
(can't post outside links before 8 post )
How do you get such a long time? My IS only last 10 hours with 3g all day .
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alienjohn said:
How do you get such a long time? My IS only last 10 hours with 3g all day .
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With 3g network ?
11hours using time with 3g and sync in my hand.
So I think yours is at average.
retu77 said:
With 3g network ?
11hours using time with 3g and sync in my hand.
So I think yours is at average.
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12 hours with 2g network...
alienjohn said:
12 hours with 2g network...
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wow.
Did you turn off sync?
Try to kill all running app.
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Subject says it all. I'm currently running Jk4 and was previously on what ever is stock with S7. One thing I've noticed with both modems is that 30 minutes of voice on the phone will drain my battery by 10% or more. I show that I have full bars most of the day and while on the phone. Is this normal our should I keep looking for modems?
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well i would say from my experience its ok enough,though your phone eats a bit more battery life than mine but still think its normal.....
That is correct battery life. Captivate has roughly 5-6 hours of call time battery life, which is the exact drain you are getting.
Thanks for the info. Just seems like a lot compared to how much the display uses.
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Well the 2 biggest drains on juice is the display and the modem. If your on the phone then its against the side of your head so the proximity sensor turns the screen off so you don't hang up with your cheek. So since the display is off during a call the modem is sucking it all.
I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.
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I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.
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Pretty certain he's correct,
Hasn't every nexus phone received a fast point release update that fixes a ton of things, improves performance and battery?
Doubt they would change that with the Nexus 4.
It would have been 4.2.1 but due to the December bug, it will have to be something else (4.2.2 probably lol)
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wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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No.
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I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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enviii said:
I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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Exactly.
This isn't a widespread problem.
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Google also said USB otg was supposed to be on this phone. Look at where that went.
I voided my warranty.
dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both.
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+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.
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+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.
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I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.
Yeah. Android phones perform notoriously badly with low signal. I lost 30% at work in 1 hour because it kept trying to sync. Compare that with usually going home with 40% left.
Anyway I'm not saying battery can't be improved on this phone. But there really isn't a drain issue present.
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This would be nice though to get that update soon. 4.2.2 I'm guessing.
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There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
/thread
I hope they raise the damn thermal throttle too.
I hope they respond to USB OTG.
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revamper said:
There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
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Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!
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Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!
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Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.
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It's free...just make sure to return it when you are done with Tmo.
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Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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Yes, custom ROMs are already addressing certain issues. the battery drain and other stuff are definitely present in the stock firmware.
Guys, there are a lot of battery issues threads & guides & faqs and whatever on XDA. Look, for example, for one in my signature. Though it's for my previous device, most of things are still relevant.
Hi
dmo580 said:
wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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There certainly is an issue which I've been suffering. Note in my case there is nothing recorded in the usual battery usage statistics to pin point any problem.
I found overnight and excessive daytime power drain in my case is because the CPU isn't entering deep sleep (using CPU Spy). Typically deep sleep should be in the 90 plus percentage range of all states. In my case it was spending 90% or more in the 384MHz state, so it was never really sleeping, and hadn't entered deep sleep at all, it was an unused state! This causes two problems, one, even though the CPU power drain is small, it adds up over the course of a night or day and eats power, and two, it also means the OS is up and running, so all applications are alive and any app that wants to ping home, download some ads or sync is free to do so which means the cell connection is constantly being kept active trickling packets of data back and forth, causing even more power drain.
Yes an application that has permission to stop the phone from sleeping is often the cause, in my case however battery stats showed no application keeping the phone awake, so I was baffled.
After a lot of troubleshooting I think it might be an issue with applications writing to the emulated SD card, perhaps keeping a file handle open, and this stops the phone entering deep-sleep at a low level in the kernel. As it is happening deeper down outside of Android it doesn't need an application with a keep awake permission to keep the phone awake, and also evades androids battery stats.
In my case I was running Bootlog Uptime, a small app with no permission to keep the phone awake but it does have permission to modify the contents on the SD card and I assume updating a log file on the SD card during the period the phone is awake, probably in order to detect a crash. As soon as this was uninstalled, even without restarting, my phone started deep sleeping.
Now overnight in flight mode it started out with 82% battery, and 9 hours later still had 82% battery! Now out of flight mode, it's been on for a few hours and has just dropped down to 81%.
Note that his application is running happily on a Nexus 7 and HTC One X without causing any issues, hence I think there is some driver in the kernel for the Nexus 4 that is incorrectly refusing to allow the CPU to deep sleep if it sees some activity in the flash memory.
Regards
Phil
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
The HTC one isn't the best phone when it comes to standby time but still,I find battery life to be pretty good, super easy to get through a work day. Maybe you have an app that is running in the background and draining your battery. Install betterbatterystats and try monitoring your apps. That's all I can think of. Also take a look at the battery stats thread and see if folks can help you there.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
peterg21 said:
As you are well aware, there can be a myriad of causes. I just want to recount one example where I made a settings adjustment which cut my battery life by over half. I doubt very much this is the reason for your poor battery life but perhaps others may benefit.
About a month ago I purchased a brand new router. Being a tinkerer, I was fiddling with this and that on the router trying to optimize everything. I also played with the phone and amongst various settings I decided to turn on "best wifi performance". The One has the warning about "may consume more power", but I did not think much about it as I knew I had very good battery life and believed that a bit more power would probably not change matters that much.
Later on in the evening I saw that my battery life was horrendous and I started scratching my head as to why it had gone to hell in a hand basket. Finally, I recalled that I had adjusted "best wifi performance" and did a search on this and found a thread on another forum.
I turned it off, recharged my phone and followed battery life keenly. 24 hours later, I could see that my battery life had returned to normal (normal being between 4-6 hours of screen on time over the duration of a full charge).
Interested if the mods will lock this thread in that they may feel that this should fall under the battery stats thread.
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Wow thanks. I was starting to wonder what crazy app I downloaded. Forgot I was messing with settings. Lo and behold that option was checked. I didn't have it checked when ibfirst got this phone and had awesome batt life.
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Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage.
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Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
Edit:Just got an update for Whatsapp (and Facebook and Skype all at once), let's hope it fixes the battery drain.....
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
godutch said:
Battery life of the One is pretty good for most people but there are some issues for some of us and lately some apps have updated and introduced even more bugs causing drain, I'll list some of the causes I found:
-msm_hsic_host wakelock bug on kernels pre- android 4.2.2
-location bug in google play store 4.1.6, fixed in 4.1.10
-whatsapp post juli 1st update (and the one before)
-htc usage reporting (on by default on s-off devices)
-reporting location setting on (in maps)
-some sim cards might not work to well which cause more frequents wake up (eg. in the netherlands vodafone sim cards with a serial number starting with 7 )
to properly debug you need wakelock detector and better battery stats (free here for xda users, search for it)
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Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
I Am Marino said:
Maybe undervolted too much.
-Sent from Marino's One-
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I only undervolted by 50mV in Aroma. Maybe I should set it back at standard?
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tiny4579 said:
Where's the source of S-OFF activating this HTC usage reporting and how could I confirm this? I've seen a few users reporting this but where is the evidence? Would any battery apps pick this up?
EDIT: I think I just found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2329841
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I bought a packet inspector and found it causes a lot of wake ups, like every minute or so....
Arcadia310 said:
I've been a 32GB unlocked HTC One owner since day one. Battery life for me has been very mediocre, barely enough to make it through a work day with light to moderate usage. For some reason this phone drains so much on standby it's ridiculous. Last week I finally gave in and decided to root. I've found that standby still sucks but the screen uses less power so I can get more screen on time on average. I'm running InsertCoin with ElementalX kernel and for every hour of standby I lose ~3+ percent of battery! I'm not even using the phone! I have EVERY APP on my phone Greenified, Google Search, Gmail, and Play Music uninstalled, I have the phone undervolted and monitor everything with Wakelock Detector and GSAM. Nothing looks weird to me but for some reason my standby still sucks. I've literally crippled my phone and have all location services turned off and I still can't get good standby time. My iPhone 5 could last forever on standby, literally 3-5 hours without losing a single percent. I've been using Android for years and the only phone that got GOOD battery life was the Note 2. At this point I'm considering going back to it because I'm sick of micromanaging my phone and still not getting good results.
Is anyone else having similar issues? There are some people here getting 6+ hours on screen time with ridiculous numbers like 38 hours without a charge. I can't get anywhere near that even with the screen on the dimmest settings. I don't understand how there's so much variation in battery life. I don't play any games or watch movies on the phone, just simple social networking and music for 30 minutes a day.
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Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
I whatsapp and check Twitter news apps sometime a game.
And i can do easy 12 hours max 17 with this usage .
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I was just thinking of the good battery performance I've been getting from the handset so far funnily enough.
I think it's been very good after only a couple of days with it.
Been using it moderately to heavy and it's held up pretty well. Over 13 hours now. Maybe it's certain apps u are using that's giving u problems with high drainage.
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cuyo11 said:
Although I have pretty good battery life when screen on (~5-6 hours), I have noticed the same drain as you when phone is in standby. The only huge wakelock that I have found is called 10113, AudioOut_4 or system*wakelock* mediaserver. I know that this process is for audio output but its draining like 20% of my battery when standby I was wondering if you have noticed this same wakelock on your phone?
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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What are your sync values set at for all your accounts...anything constantly updating will drain battery quickly
25% battery used for 1hr screen on time and 11hrs of standby
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I got mine FIXED !
I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
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I was having similiar problem with my HTC One tends to overheat a lot resulting in poor battery life. I tried every known tricks to get better battery life still no hope. Went to HTC Care in my area and told about the issue they immediately took it for repair (the phone was only one week old). After like waiting three days I got my phone and back there was a paper which describes about the repair Its said in the problem description "Display Abnormally and Battery Calibration issue" I dont know what they meant with display abnormally they really got fixed my battery life. Before I used to get 6 to 7 hours of battery life now I m averaging a day or two with moderate to light use. I m satisfied ! :good:
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I think you misunderstand what overheat means. The HTC One does NOT overheat. You feel the heat more cos of it's metal body, which is releasing the heat through the metal surface. It's directing heat AWAY from the internals, unlike the S4 which uses the same chip and keeps all the heat inside cos plastic is a terrible heat transfer medium.
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I know that but mine was like 48 C at the peak when its hot which is very uncomfortable to hold that's why I said overheat. Anyway now its fixed and I don't have any complaints.
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Yeah I see those guys a lot when I use Spotify.
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Try without using spotify for a day. I see them even if I dont listen to any music. They appear with just notification sounds D:
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Also be sure to not use screen lock sounds or input sounds... the lock sound is the worst. I think it causes a wakelock bug that has been on Android since 4.0
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Just throwing this out there... I have a Nexus 5 here has pretty poor battery, mostly when it comes to the screen time. Barely getting 2 hours per charge. In fact, I called google today and they are going to replace it; more on that in a bit.
I've tried stock, CM11, CM11 w/chaos kernel, paranoid w/franco kernel - neither is better than the other.. fter seeing some people on stock + franco and other combinations getting 6-7 hours of screen time it got me thinking. Could we be seeing a set of battery manufacturing defects? Google has already changed the speaker grill and button designs [ironically, my Nexus 5 that was ordered 1 week ago came w/the smaller speaker grill and loose buttons].
However, I'm wondering if there was a bad batch of batteries out there? If I didn't get an exchange from google I was going to pop this phone open and replace the battery with a new one just to prove a point. When I spoke to google today, they thought that a 20% drop in about 30 minutes of use was excessive, which I have to agree.
Ideas? Thoughts?
-t
I'm repeating a post from the battery thread I just made....
[quote name="wdwms" post=51191930]I'm wondering if all the variances in battery life we are seeing could be a sign of a broader issue - a large batch of defective batteries?
opened this thread for thoughts/comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2686119[/QUOTE]
Nope. Its the variances in usage and settings. Guaranteed.
I got 6 hours screen time plus on my Moto x....always. with no changes whatsoever, my wife gets 4 1/2. Why? 90 percent of my use was tapatalk. Mostly just text. 90 percent of her use is Facebook, mostly images....with text. Images take more power to load than text.
That primary difference in our usage patterns made a consistent hour and half screen time difference. Oh....and she makes a few calls, I barely ever had or made calls.
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Not meaning to debunk your theory....there are occasional defects....but mostly the huge differences are usage and settings.
The guys getting 6 hours plus screen time usually are running with most services off or frozen. Dim screens. Obviously not gaming much or at all. Not using location services or navigating. These things can make giant differences in battery life.
I suggest getting gsam. And doing a full discharge with it and doing some screen shots at the end. I'm betting if you think you have an issue that can be solved.....or its your particular usage patterns.
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I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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JNMM said:
I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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I was using auto....and yeah, generally it's not to bad....now. I think 4.4.2 improved it....doesn't Jack up to full as much.
Then I saw someone mention "display brightness" app ....its awesome. A little slider always on my screen. Love it!
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I get 6 hours screen on time on the reggie. Location left on (high accuracy) and same with Google now. I think the only things I have turned off in Google now are search history and location reporting. NFC off. Auto brightness. I agree with kj its based on your usage. I really only use my phone for tapatalk or texting mainly. Some Facebook (not really too into it) emails and a liiiitle bit of gaming.. I also use custom kernels and slightly undervolt. My phone can take -25 across the board and 675mV at 300mhz. I mostly UV for heating purposes when I game. (Addicted to robot unicorn attack 2 and smash it). Also don't use any kind of tap or swipe to wake (KILLS battery on this phone). Plus I always charge with USB. I read somewhere that lithium ion batteries discharge slower if they are charged with USB as opposed to AC. That and I don't have free A/C slots in my man cave. Just a USB port to from my PlayStation to a qi wireless charger. Yes it takes a while....
your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.
Unless you heavily use GPS or voice calls, 2 hours SoT is too low. To get that you probably have a rogue processes preventing the phone from sleeping. In comparison, I've used the phone to game for over 3 hours on a charge.
Once that's out of the way and if you're still not happy with the battery life you're seeing ask yourself: what's running on my phone that I don't really need?
Every frivolous widget, forgotten service, or Google Now card is going to use some amount of battery and they add up on a limited power source.
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your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.
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That's a great point @simms22, don't think people factor into the equation quality of reception. In China on crappy HSPA+ with 1 bar, I'm lucky to get 3-4 SOT. In Los Angeles on an excellent LTE connection I can get 5-6 SOT. So reception adds 2 hrs of SOT in my case.
OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).
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Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).
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Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?
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My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)
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Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.
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I just said in another post about this.....I hope the "fix" doesn't end up messing up my current amazing battery life. LOL.
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Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)
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Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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bblzd said:
Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
Moto G battery life is mainly due to its considerably less powerful specifications.
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It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
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I stand corrected. I will do my own test using only 3g tomorrow night. Thanks for the info.
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