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[doubt] htc one and nexus 4

I was watching a video one nexus and m7.....both have almost same dimensions, leave alone the make quality (nexus is crap i know it )
what will be the difference between 1.5 ghz snapdragon s4 pro and 1.5 ghz snapdragon 600 regarding the performance? (pls dont post benchmarks)
i feel blink feed will be the first thing I'll be disabling before anything....(seriously )
pls advise me on technical things as I'm planning on upgrading from my stupid galaxy y.
ive seen reviews on camera and i think htc wont disappoint us......
lack of wireless charging will be another blow on HTCs side.
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snapdragon 600 claims a 40% increase in CPU performance, coming from S4 pro. Wireless charging is nothing great, you have to stupidly fix the phone on a particular position on the charging mat. And for your information, One has 1.7GHz
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The performance of the Nexus 4 is rather bad compared to other S4 Pro phones, as it suffers badly from thermal throttling - that is, the CPU heats up and the phone makes it run slower to stop it from getting any hotter. So the One should be a lot faster than the N4.
The gap between the One and one of the faster S4 Pro phones (like the Sony Xperia Z, which is very nippy) will be narrower, but it should still be faster for most things. (Possibly only barely faster for games, though).

Shasarak said:
The performance of the Nexus 4 is rather bad compared to other S4 Pro phones, as it suffers badly from thermal throttling - that is, the CPU heats up and the phone makes it run slower to stop it from getting any hotter. So the One should be a lot faster than the N4.
The gap between the One and one of the faster S4 Pro phones (like the Sony Xperia Z, which is very nippy) will be narrower, but it should still be faster for most things. (Possibly only barely faster for games, though).
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just take the n4!

HTC one. N4 throttles because of the glass back. Gets too hot then cold then bam your glass back is shattered.
Plus HTC one has better specs and features
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Thank you for your replies... Waiting for real time battery Stats.... I'll be going for it 90% if the battery stats are good.
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NiCk.JaY said:
Wireless charging is nothing great, you have to stupidly fix the phone on a particular position on the charging mat.
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Depends on the phone. I LOVED wireless charging on my Lumia 920. Position was no issue, and it always worked. it was fantastic.
The N4 sucked at it and I agree with your statement in regards to the N4.

I'm looking forward to the ONE.
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kishorsidu said:
I was watching a video one nexus and m7.....both have almost same dimensions, leave alone the make quality (nexus is crap i know it )
what will be the difference between 1.5 ghz snapdragon s4 pro and 1.5 ghz snapdragon 600 regarding the performance? (pls dont post benchmarks)
i feel blink feed will be the first thing I'll be disabling before anything....(seriously )
pls advise me on technical things as I'm planning on upgrading from my stupid galaxy y.
ive seen reviews on camera and i think htc wont disappoint us......
lack of wireless charging will be another blow on HTCs side.
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m7 will have more usable screen size due to not using onscreen soft keys (thankfully). Far better build quality. I have a suspicion the m7 won't feel faster (if not slower) than the N4 but that is due to software. It is hard to beat the speed of AOSP regardless of what specs you throw at it. Now that said, with some custom roms (especially if the m7 sees AOSP) the m7 will most definitely be faster. However I would be quite surprised if Sense 5 doesn't feel at least some "lag" Vs. an N4 stock vs stock just due to AOSP vs Sense.
I wouldn't even consider the N4 personally. There isn't really anything I liked about it (I had 2). I went back to my Lumia 920 over the N4. If it wasn't for the Note 2 I probably would have gone back to the GS3 waiting for the GS4/m7/etc.. coming soon. I could list all the things I didn't like about the N4 but that is not really what this is about and there is plenty of that information around .
Having owned all of these phones I fully intend to try the m7 next, regardless of what Samsung announces for the GS4. I like Samsung's products but I look forward to a phone that will look and feel a bit more elegant, something I would be very (happily) surprised if GS4 accomplishes.
As far as wireless charging goes, I seem to be one of the minority that care. I would have loved to see it, though it is definitely not a deal breaker and implementation is key. The N4 wireless charging was a horrible experience, but the Lumia 920 was awesome at it. I could toss it on the pad in any direction partially off the pad and it would still charge fine. I do miss that, but it is not at the top of my list. It's nice not having to deal with the micro usb plug at 1am and your trying to go to bed in the dark .

There is one reason why I'll probably be sticking to the N4 and that's HTC's policy of locking down phones. When I drop £500 on a phone I expect to be able to use it however I want to. They can take my warranty away if they want to but at least give me the choice.
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pnnorth said:
There is one reason why I'll probably be sticking to the N4 and that's HTC's policy of locking down phones. When I drop £500 on a phone I expect to be able to use it however I want to. They can take my warranty away if they want to but at least give me the choice.
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lol when you unlock your device through htcdev you can root, flash ROMs, flash custom kernels and everything. The only restriction is flashing kernel through the phone itself and downgrading hboot and radios... But why would you want that?

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lol when you unlock your device through htcdev you can root, flash ROMs, flash custom kernels and everything. The only restriction is flashing kernel through the phone itself and downgrading hboot and radios... But why would you want that?
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I'm well aware of what you can and can't do, I have a HOX as well. Having to use my PC to switch hboots when I want to change ROMs does my head in.
There is also the CID issue.
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pnnorth said:
I'm well aware of what you can and can't do, I have a HOX as well. Having to use my PC to switch hboots when I want to change ROMs does my head in.
There is also the CID issue.
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Agreed. HTC is lame in that regard.
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thegregulator said:
Agreed. HTC is lame in that regard.
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pnnorth said:
I'm well aware of what you can and can't do, I have a HOX as well. Having to use my PC to switch hboots when I want to change ROMs does my head in.
There is also the CID issue.
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Riyal said:
lol when you unlock your device through htcdev you can root, flash ROMs, flash custom kernels and everything. The only restriction is flashing kernel through the phone itself and downgrading hboot and radios... But why would you want that?
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Do you ppl mean to say that rooting and stuff is almost not possible?
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kishorsidu said:
Do you ppl mean to say that rooting and stuff is almost not possible?
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Rooting with htcdev isn't as good as rooting S-Off. In htcdev, youll have to flash boot image and kernels usinf fastboot

NiCk.JaY said:
Rooting with htcdev isn't as good as rooting S-Off. In htcdev, youll have to flash boot image and kernels usinf fastboot
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Is this definitely the case? Someone in another thread was saying that the hox was only like that because of the Tegra processor and it won't be the same for the one
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Basil3 said:
Is this definitely the case? Someone in another thread was saying that the hox was only like that because of the Tegra processor and it won't be the same for the one
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That's a different story. Achieving s-off on snapdragon has never proved to be a difficult job. Tegra was time taking though
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NiCk.JaY said:
That's a different story. Achieving s-off on snapdragon has never proved to be a difficult job. Tegra was time taking though
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I didn't think s-off was ever achieved on the hox. If s-off is achieved on the One, then I assume you can flash ROMs and kernels without being connected to a pc. That would make my day.
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kishorsidu said:
Do you ppl mean to say that rooting and stuff is almost not possible?
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It will be possible to root but it will be an inconvenience having to go to the computer every time you want to switch roms.

just sold my n4 and went back to my old desire s while waiting for
the htc one.
Besides all discussion about performance and rooting possibilities: I hope to
get a physically more robust phone like my desire s is. Had the feeling that
N4 could fall on almost any edge to break and hope to feel better with one.

Thinking about picking up the XZ, advice plz..

I currently have the Gs3 on Verizon but my contract is up and I am considering the move to T-Mobile (T-Mobile has great coverage where I live.). Im considering getting the Xperia Z. I've always owned a galaxy phone; Vibrant, S2, S3.... My wife has the s4. I'm really getting bored of the galaxy line and don't care for the s4 compared to the s3. I've really been interested in the XZ since it first debuted. Is it worth it? Any advice.
Ps- Don't care for Verizon, they don't have a wide variety of good phone options (IMO).
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mikaeldalc said:
I currently have the Gs3 on Verizon but my contract is up and I am considering the move to T-Mobile (T-Mobile has great coverage where I live.). Im considering getting the Xperia Z. I've always owned a galaxy phone; Vibrant, S2, S3.... My wife has the s4. I'm really getting bored of the galaxy line and don't care for the s4 compared to the s3. I've really been interested in the XZ since it first debuted. Is it worth it? Any advice.
Ps- Don't care for Verizon, they don't have a wide variety of good phone options (IMO).
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Do it. Simple as. Phone capabilities with other similar hardware phones so ports become easier. Awesome developers here. Also it's a great, slim and good looking phone.
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Go for it. You'll get updates faster than the htc one and the ui is actually beautiful. I learned my lesson.

only downside is bootloader is unlockable and it seems there is no dev around that is willing to put in the work to unlock it. so that means no custom kernels no cm,aokp,or p.a. but if that isnt a deal breaker for you its a GREAT piece of hardware with a great ui:good:

lukesjeans said:
Go for it. You'll get updates faster than the htc one and the ui is actually beautiful. I learned my lesson.
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Not really faster ... it took how much 4 months for you to get 4.2.2 and its still buggy , for one took 2 months and it's still the most optimised device ever existed , one word lag free .. as for ui isnt the sense acclaimed best looking skin.... anyway won't go into debate with you it's more of a personal preference.
@ op
I'd suggest you to take a look at what you need from the phone then choose the device that suits your needs.
Either way xz is a great device.
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I prefer waiting for another sony phone with triluminous display
to be fully experienced the best of sony in both world (good looking and good satisfaction)

Thanx, guys i went ahead and got it. This thing is beautiful. Now to root and flash a custom rom. i love the stock rom, any stock roms that just focus on enhancing battery and other tidbits? also, should i order a battery case?

mikaeldalc said:
Thanx, guys i went ahead and got it. This thing is beautiful. Now to root and flash a custom rom. i love the stock rom, any stock roms that just focus on enhancing battery and other tidbits? also, should i order a battery case?
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check my sig pic imo its the best stock based rom
and battery is pretty good imo i get at least 20hrs with 3 or 4 hrs screen time

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skinsfanbdh said:
check my sig pic imo its the best stock based rom
and battery is pretty good imo i get at least 20hrs with 3 or 4 hrs screen time
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That's... Less than average battery life.

DrKrFfXx said:
That's... Less than average battery life.
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im pretty sure i said at least... and i have wifi bluetooth nfc and throw on all day long. thats more than enough battery for the average user and i have got 50+ hours with over 4 hours screen time. if you dont have anything productive to say you should just keep it to your self bro

If you have the money and can wait a month or 2 than do that as Xperia Honami is coming that is most likely going to be unveiled in the beginning of September. It is however gonna be significantly more expensive when it comes out as most top phones are. Otherwise I can tell you that it is a great phone and waterproofing has already helped me save my phone once, any other would need a replacement. Check out my video, maybe it will help you decide as well

Depends upon how you use it
Sony xz - if you need a classy lukin phone
Htc one - if you use your phone for texting cos as far as I used, I feel the screen is too big to handle .and loudspeaker of xz is a way lower than htc one. Super lcd is better than tft.
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Gotta have the water resistance that XZ offers. Dropped mine in the toilet after taking a dump (yeah - gross, I know)
Rinsed it, dried it and good as gold
Imagine if that happened with HTC 1 or some other device?
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mikaeldalc said:
I currently have the Gs3 on Verizon but my contract is up and I am considering the move to T-Mobile (T-Mobile has great coverage where I live.). Im considering getting the Xperia Z. I've always owned a galaxy phone; Vibrant, S2, S3.... My wife has the s4. I'm really getting bored of the galaxy line and don't care for the s4 compared to the s3. I've really been interested in the XZ since it first debuted. Is it worth it? Any advice.
Ps- Don't care for Verizon, they don't have a wide variety of good phone options (IMO).
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My previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S3 and to me, that phone had one good thing - battery life. Otherwise, it was overhyped and not worth the money that I rather could lay on one of the other 2012 high / middle end phones back in november last year. However..
The Sony Xperia Z C6603 is one hell of an well built beast and the dev-support is pretty outstanding.. CM, PA, AOSP / AOKP and a lot of good stock based custom ROMS. Hey, we even got Doomlord that is bringing extended functionalities to the Z with his Doomkernel, that is worth the money all alone
Go with the Xperia Z, dude!
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Destroyedbeauty said:
My previous phone was the Samsung Galaxy S3 and to me, that phone had one good thing - battery life. Otherwise, it was overhyped and not worth the money that I rather could lay on one of the other 2012 high / middle end phones back in november last year. However..
The Sony Xperia Z C6603 is one hell of an well built beast and the dev-support is pretty outstanding.. CM, PA, AOSP / AOKP and a lot of good stock based custom ROMS. Hey, we even got Doomlord that is bringing extended functionalities to the Z with his Doomkernel, that is worth the money all alone
Go with the Xperia Z, dude!
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he got the tmo xz perm locked bootlader so only stock based roms and definitely no doomkernel

Should I trade nexus 5 for z1 c6906?

Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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should definitely change to Z1. You won't regret it. the Z was a good phone but it got some problems preventing it to be a great phone, and sony fixed them all in the Z1. I can't think of a better phone at the moment.

Just worried about the camera reviews ? How do you find the camera and the battery life
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Battery life is awesome I can cover the whole day with heavy use, the best android phone I have ever had concerning battery.....camera is also good not good as battery life but is good enough

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Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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I can absolutely recommend the Z1 .

Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!

homer285 said:
Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!
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Lol honestly the Nexus is amazingly smooth and fast but I admit the feel of a z1 is second to none you can tell its pure quality. Well I have some serious thinking to do but thanks for the input guys
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homer285 said:
Come on the N5 is hideous compared to Z1 I wouldnt trade you any Nexus device for Z1(swap it for sure) and go as far to say, I wouldnt urinate on a Nexus if it were on fire!
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N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....

cingolat said:
N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....
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He just said its hideous which it is .

offwiththeface said:
Got offered a trade my nexus 5 32gb plus a ad 100 for a brand new z1 should I do it ?
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Hello mate, I actually had both phones and I would highly recommend the Xperia Z1. The only aspects where N5 beats the Z1 is the software updates, developmental support and a more compact form. Check out my video comparison between the two:
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cingolat said:
N5 is very good phone too.....don't say stupid things....
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Im sure it is, however, based on beer goggles the day of my reply and the fact that N5 is a fairly physically challenged device, I do apologize for not 'metaphorically' extinguishing any flames that may have otherwise saved a perfectly good yet otherwise beautiful device and I might add, that only a mother could love.
Not hating or trolling just observing and sharing an opinion.

offwiththeface said:
Just worried about the camera reviews ? How do you find the camera and the battery life
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Battery life is best by far I have ever had, and the measly N5 battery tilted my decision between N5 and Z1 towards the latter. I haven't been disappointed. Phone is rock solid, lasts through an entire day from morning to midnight with heavy usage, camera is actually pretty good, and despite the viewing angles (which don't bother me) the screen is also excellent.

rxzlmn said:
Battery life is best by far I have ever had, and the measly N5 battery tilted my decision between N5 and Z1 towards the latter. I haven't been disappointed. Phone is rock solid, lasts through an entire day from morning to midnight with heavy usage, camera is actually pretty good, and despite the viewing angles (which don't bother me) the screen is also excellent.
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Totally agree with you, I've had exactly the same feeling/iter....

I had the pick of the litter and lived with each of the big hitters for a few days each and at first the Z1 was my least favourite with me leaning more towards the G2, but the solid build, brilliant camera and pace of the handset just won me over, I've got no regrets on my purchase.
On a side note, development is the only thing that has put me off since, but as soon as that bootloader is sorted, it'll be cool and rom's will be flying in.
You could possibly hold fire until it's done, cos if they don't ever fix the bootloader / camera issue then it'll be a travesty and i will be killing some Sony employees.

dladz said:
I had the pick of the litter and lived with each of the big hitters for a few days each and at first the Z1 was my least favourite with me leaning more towards the G2, but the solid build, brilliant camera and pace of the handset just won me over, I've got no regrets on my purchase.
On a side note, development is the only thing that has put me off since, but as soon as that bootloader is sorted, it'll be cool and rom's will be flying in.
You could possibly hold fire until it's done, cos if they don't ever fix the bootloader / camera issue then it'll be a travesty and i will be killing some Sony employees.
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I was thinking on G2 too but the lack of memory card tilted me toward z1.......memory card lack was the reason to not bought htc one too...... I hate phone without sdcard.....

I am happy to have Z1 but the the only concerned section for me is the assistance from Sony on Android Updates. How long we will stick with 4.2.2? I saw Kitkat and is pretty light and fast.

cingolat said:
I was thinking on G2 too but the lack of memory card tilted me toward z1.......memory card lack was the reason to not bought htc one too...... I hate phone without sdcard.....
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I sold my HTC One, brilliant phone but hasn't got anything on the Z1.

eclyptos said:
I am happy to have Z1 but the the only concerned section for me is the assistance from Sony on Android Updates. How long we will stick with 4.2.2? I saw Kitkat and is pretty light and fast.
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As far as 4.2.2 works well I'm fine with the fact that we're stuck here (for now). I think that Android version doesn't matter as long as the phone works well. I bought my Z1 a week ago and before that I was on X10 with gingerbread and I didn't had any problems with that. I tried custom ROMs with 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 on it but it had some bugs (like camcorder not working) and the most important thing is that everything works fine.
About being light, I believe that Kit Kat is. But faster!? I'm using my Z1 for a week now and I installed tons of apps, I'm playing heavy games and listening to music in the same time, then switching between games, browser and poweramp and the Z1 didn't lagged not even once! This phone is a beast and I think that it can't get faster than this.
I would really like to get Kit Kat but the 4.2.2 works perfectly so far and while it's so, there's no rush for an update. Being faster (which is almost impossible) is not enough for an update. I'm hoping to get even better battery life and better camera in Kit Kat (4K video recording maybe!?) and some other improvements. Otherwise, the update wouldn't make any sense.

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I'm hoping to get even better battery life and better camera in Kit Kat (4K video recording maybe!?) and some other improvements.
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This is what I mean. It can be done but the Updates from Sony are close to nothing. Nexus 5 do not have this problems and the OS is always improved. I prefer Z1 anyway but I will be happy to have some updates soon as is possible, otherwise I have to flash some Rom.

eclyptos said:
This is what I mean. It can be done but the Updates from Sony are close to nothing. Nexus 5 do not have this problems and the OS is always improved. I prefer Z1 anyway but I will be happy to have some updates soon as is possible, otherwise I have to flash some Rom.
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This is the only advantage of Nexus, it has to have something otherwise people won't buy it All other is better on Z1: camera, screen, design, waterproofness, memory etc.

Finally got mine!

This is hands down the phone I've been waiting for! Perfect screen size with a great processor and stock android. This phone is fantastic. I've had soooo many phones in the past year it's insane. Galaxy note 2 and 3 galaxy s4 htc one Sony xperia z ultra HTC one again galaxy note 3 again and none have made me happy. Alot has to do with ask the bloat that those phones have. I don't know how to root devices and play with the software. All I've wanted was a nice die phone that's snappy and smooth with a nice size screen and stock android. I now have it and couldn't be happier. I'm a little scared as to how the battery life will be as I'm a heavy internet user but time will tell. Gonna order a wireless charger and case now.
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sal1311 said:
This is hands down the phone I've been waiting for! Perfect screen size with a great processor and stock android. This phone is fantastic. I've had soooo many phones in the past year it's insane. Galaxy note 2 and 3 galaxy s4 htc one Sony xperia z ultra HTC one again galaxy note 3 again and none have made me happy. Alot has to do with ask the bloat that those phones have. I don't know how to root devices and play with the software. All I've wanted was a nice die phone that's snappy and smooth with a nice size screen and stock android. I now have it and couldn't be happier. I'm a little scared as to how the battery life will be as I'm a heavy internet user but time will tell. Gonna order a wireless charger and case now.
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If you're looking for a budget wireless charger that gets the job done and is a trusted name then purchase the Nokia DT-900 (it's about $25 from at&t) and if you're looking for one that tilts then get the DT-910.
I have the DT-910 and it's wonderful. Stay away from off brand chargers because it can damage you're phone or even cause a fire!
Welcome to this wonderful community and enjoy your Nexus 5!
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sal1311 said:
This is hands down the phone I've been waiting for!
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Its normal to receive the Nexus 5 when you order a Nexus 5. Its not a lottery
I'd be really annoyed if I was waiting for a nexus 5 and something else arrived
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sal1311 said:
This is hands down the phone I've been waiting for! Perfect screen size with a great processor and stock android. This phone is fantastic. I've had soooo many phones in the past year it's insane. Galaxy note 2 and 3 galaxy s4 htc one Sony xperia z ultra HTC one again galaxy note 3 again and none have made me happy. Alot has to do with ask the bloat that those phones have. I don't know how to root devices and play with the software. All I've wanted was a nice die phone that's snappy and smooth with a nice size screen and stock android. I now have it and couldn't be happier. I'm a little scared as to how the battery life will be as I'm a heavy internet user but time will tell. Gonna order a wireless charger and case now.
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If you plan on rooting the device read the first 4 threads well in the General section before you do anything

rootSU said:
Its normal to receive the Nexus 5 when you order a Nexus 5. Its not a lottery
I'd be really annoyed if I was waiting for a nexus 5 and something else arrived
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Dude, some of the guys 'round here got nothing but a rattling button!

gee2012 said:
If you plan on rooting the device read the first 4 threads well in the General section before you do anything
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Coming from N4 I know all I needed was to download the recovery.img and then start downloading roms. =w=
All you need is ADB/Fastboot

KiD3991 said:
Coming from N4 I know all I needed was to download the recovery.img and then start downloading roms. =w=
All you need is ADB/Fastboot
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Sorry for not recognizing the sheer magitude of your wisdom, the N5 though will be flagged when unlocking/rooting which the N4 didn`t have, you can reset it though but i`am sure you allready know that

Your just to funny. Have you nothing better to do. I don't want to get thrown off the forum so I'll keep some of my choice words to myself.
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Awesome thread! Can't wait to read about your next small step in life.
good day.

sal1311 said:
This is hands down the phone I've been waiting for! Perfect screen size with a great processor and stock android. This phone is fantastic. I've had soooo many phones in the past year it's insane. Galaxy note 2 and 3 galaxy s4 htc one Sony xperia z ultra HTC one again galaxy note 3 again and none have made me happy. Alot has to do with ask the bloat that those phones have. I don't know how to root devices and play with the software. All I've wanted was a nice die phone that's snappy and smooth with a nice size screen and stock android. I now have it and couldn't be happier. I'm a little scared as to how the battery life will be as I'm a heavy internet user but time will tell. Gonna order a wireless charger and case now.
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To OP: Congrats on getting a great phone. I really would suggest unlocking and rooting to get the most out of the phone tho. Xposed + GravityBox really make the phone even better. With those you don't even need to go the custom ROM route.
To the people being DICKS in this thread: Really? Get a life.

Coming from a s3 and now got the nexus 5 I can't be happier no more lag or waiting a minate for my contacts to open and now its instant

Coming from S3 att with AOKP. I love everything except lose buttons and smaller grill mic and speaker. reading reading reading now before unlock/install/root.
I am not familiar with Xposed. should I go with roms or Xposed. I want my phone to be fast and just work.

KiD3991 said:
Coming from N4 I know all I needed was to download the recovery.img and then start downloading roms. =w=
All you need is ADB/Fastboot
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Sorry for my harsh and inapropriate response on your post, had a difficult day and shouldn`t have reacted like this My apologies.

gee2012 said:
Sorry for my harsh and inapropriate response on your post, had a difficult day and shouldn`t have reacted like this My apologies.
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What now?
I actually wanted to thank you for this though. I didn't know about the flagging issue until you mentioned about it. :highfive:
No worries, no harm done! Its always a good time for beer(or whiskey) !

Welcome to the club! I've owned a ton of handsets in the past few years and this is the only one I haven't rooted in the first week because it just works so beautifully as is. Haven't had one issue (other then loose power button, can't win em all). I get the itch to root and fiddle now and then but then I can't bring myself to do it as its just perfect for me as is. I'm sure eventually the modder in me will win out and I'll tinker with it to all hell and back, but for now, just enjoying the ride.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Finally I got this amazing phone today,and I'm really glad to join to the Nexus world. :fingers-crossed:

hormosapiens said:
Coming from S3 att with AOKP. I love everything except lose buttons and smaller grill mic and speaker. reading reading reading now before unlock/install/root.
I am not familiar with Xposed. should I go with roms or Xposed. I want my phone to be fast and just work.
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I'd definitely play around with Xposed before flashing a ROM. At least for me it has completely eliminated the need to flash any custom ROMs. I am stock rooted + Xposed on all 3 of my Android devices and I wouldn't have it any other way. GravityBox is the first module you should try, as it has a TON of features. You get the benefits of staying stock (stability, bug free) but get to add whatever features you want to your stock ROM. I can't stress how awesome Xposed is, and it really was a game changer for me.

marleyfan61 said:
To the people being DICKS in this thread: Really? Get a life.
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Was just thinking that also.. Some people have nothing better to do than to bash others.
Anyways, have fun with your new toy OP You're definitely going to love having a Nexus

[Q] Is the Z1s worth getting without being able to root?

I'm in the market for a new phone and the only thing keeping me on the fence with the Z1s is the lack of root and despite the bounty on it, progress looks to be slowing. Can anyone make an argument for this phone on stock over an equivalently spec'd phone that can be rooted?

donciclon said:
I'm in the market for a new phone and the only thing keeping me on the fence with the Z1s is the lack of root and despite the bounty on it, progress looks to be slowing. Can anyone make an argument for this phone on stock over an equivalently spec'd phone that can be rooted?
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Do you care about it being waterproof? Do you care about a horrible screen? (Yes, the screen is terrible). Sony's software is good enough to use without any rooting, but what other phones were you looking at?

Well, I'm moving up from a Galaxy Nexus who's screen has horrible burnin so I guess calling the Z1s screen terrible is a relative statement. I'm mainly looking to buy through tmobile. Their phone offering is kind of weak, atleast until they stock the S5 but I'm sort of weary of AMOLED screens after the galaxy nexus. The only other phone I was seriously considering was the 2013 HTC One which i know has root but obviously its a bit dated by comparison. Could you recommend any other competitor? Maybe even through AT&T?

Come on buddy. Let's positive thinking here. It's not able yet, beside think about quad core, 2 GB ram, 16 GB internal memory, plus 20 mp camera. You'll be proud of it.
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To each his own, but personally i wouldn't ever be interested in a phone where i can't unlock the bootloader. So a phone without root and without bootloader unlocking? No way for me. I love my Z1 though, but have the unlocked international version
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donciclon said:
Well, I'm moving up from a Galaxy Nexus who's screen has horrible burnin so I guess calling the Z1s screen terrible is a relative statement. I'm mainly looking to buy through tmobile. Their phone offering is kind of weak, atleast until they stock the S5 but I'm sort of weary of AMOLED screens after the galaxy nexus. The only other phone I was seriously considering was the 2013 HTC One which i know has root but obviously its a bit dated by comparison. Could you recommend any other competitor? Maybe even through AT&T?
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If you really don't care about the screen, it's a good phone. I forgot to mention that the tmobile version of this phone is HUGE. It's bigger than the Z1. What about the Nexus 5? The HTC one 2013 is still a really great phone. They ported Sense 6 to it now with everything working.
The camera on this phone is about equal to the HTC one's camera. More MP though.

omegahanggara said:
Come on buddy. Let's positive thinking here. It's not able yet, beside think about quad core, 2 GB ram, 16 GB internal memory, plus 20 mp camera. You'll be proud of it.
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The phone has a huge list of Pros and while no root is the only con I can give it, it's a pretty big one. I have a broken galaxy nexus and disposable income burning a hol through my pocket. I'm going to have a new phone by the end of the day. I'm just trying to weigh which hurts less either a bit of an outdated phone with root or the Z1s without root.

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The phone has a huge list of Pros and while no root is the only con I can give it, it's a pretty big one. I have a broken galaxy nexus and disposable income burning a hol through my pocket. I'm going to have a new phone by the end of the day. I'm just trying to weigh which hurts less either a bit of an outdated phone with root or the Z1s without root.
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Root will eventually come in August when jcase said he would release it. Another question is do you care about slow updates? The Z1 just got KK, but the tmobile version will likely have to wait a few more months. HTC seems to be doing well updating their phones. I would get the HTC One if I were you. Maybe even the new HTC one that's being release tomorrow.

aooga said:
Root will eventually come in August when jcase said he would release it. Another question is do you care about slow updates? The Z1 just got KK, but the tmobile version will likely have to wait a few more months. HTC seems to be doing well updating their phones. I would get the HTC One if I were you. Maybe even the new HTC one that's being release tomorrow.
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The slow updates was a bit of a bummer but I could live with it. I asked whether Tmobile would offer the HTC one tomorrow but the rep sounded doubtful. I could simply go with the HTC One and then jump to the 2014 model after a few months when tmobile has them stocked. The other reason I'm considering the HTC one is for it's build quality. I'd be taking a bit of a hit on horsepower though but still an absolute upgrade from the galaxy nexus.
You may have convinced me to take the HTC one actually lol.

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The slow updates was a bit of a bummer but I could live with it. I asked whether Tmobile would offer the HTC one tomorrow but the rep sounded doubtful. I could simply go with the HTC One and then jump to the 2014 model after a few months when tmobile has them stocked. The other reason I'm considering the HTC one is for it's build quality. I'd be taking a bit of a hit on horsepower though but still an absolute upgrade from the galaxy nexus.
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Yeah no one knows about that. There are some rumors that Verizon will have it for 2 weeks before everyone else, but some rumors say all carriers get it tomorrow. The 2013 one is still pretty fast though.

@aooga
The htc one camera is definitively one of the worst camera ever seen in the last years
Check gsmarena comparisons if you don't trust me
And this only would made me skip this phone
Anyway, I would skip the S5 due to its crappy ui
And the z1s for his closeness
Couldn't you buy an unlocked phone maybe? I know US mentality is quite different.. but cmon is there really this saving?
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mirhl said:
@aooga
The htc one camera is definitively one of the worst camera ever seen in the last years
Check gsmarena comparisons if you don't trust me
And this only would made me skip this phone
Anyway, I would skip the S5 due to its crappy ui
And the z1s for his closeness
Couldn't you buy an unlocked phone maybe? I know US mentality is quite different.. but cmon is there really this saving?
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Hmm. I didn't see that when I had it. The camera was really good both in low light and outside. The Z1 camera takes a lot of fiddling to get shots, but when you get it right, they're pretty good.

Oooohhh, the camera..... yea that just bummed me out of the HTC One. Ugh. I guess it's back to square one. I gave the nexus 5 a thought and the only real reason I dismissed it was because my brother has it.

donciclon said:
Oooohhh, the camera..... yea that just bummed me out of the HTC One. Ugh. I guess it's back to square one. I gave the nexus 5 a thought and the only real reason I dismissed it was because my brother has it.
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What's so bad about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50736218&postcount=3317

Just to be clear: you can root your device with locked bootloader. You just can't install custom roms. It's just a bit of work to get a rooted Kitkat.
I love the device. Sonys firmware is really good I didn't have any reason to use custom roms yet. It's closer to pure Android than the other 3 brands.
The camera is good (with a bit practice). I've bought the device mainly because of the huge battery
Sent from Xperia Z1

aooga said:
What's so bad about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50736218&postcount=3317
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The problem is exactly there. When I open photos load they are good. Then I say: "oh, let's take a look at those people up there" or "let's check that bird on the seaside "
And I zoom in.. and you realize photos suck (a ****ty galaxy ace can even beat the one! holy jesus..)
anyway, I wouldn't boycott the ****ing close contract system if I were you... but if you aren't so prudish, well, z1s would be a good deal
Otherwise, go unlocked nexus 5/xperia z/xperia z1

xXFlippyXx said:
Just to be clear: you can root your device with locked bootloader. You just can't install custom roms. It's just a bit of work to get a rooted Kitkat.
I love the device. Sonys firmware is really good I didn't have any reason to use custom roms yet. It's closer to pure Android than the other 3 brands.
The camera is good (with a bit practice). I've bought the device mainly because of the huge battery
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No you can't on the Z1s. That's why there's a $600+ bounty.

Why not just go for Z1?? it is totally rootable
Seriously, if u look for the T-mobile Z1s just becoz of the "nice deal"
Go to ebay instead bro

KWOKSFUNG said:
Why not just go for Z1?? it is totally rootable
Seriously, if u look for the T-mobile Z1s just becoz of the "nice deal"
Go to ebay instead bro
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If you live in the US, buying phones from the carrier is actual beneficial. Tmobile has something called JUMP that lets you get a phone every 6 months if you buy the phone from them. And you pay nothing up front.

aooga said:
If you live in the US, buying phones from the carrier is actual beneficial. Tmobile has something called JUMP that lets you get a phone every 6 months if you buy the phone from them. And you pay nothing up front.
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Up to u then
but did anyone tell u that u cannot write the external SD card with a 3rd party app on non-rooted stock 4.4??