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i've paired a few things (bt headset, parrot car hands free, computer) but it won't automatically connect to anything. i have to manually tell it to connect. is there a setting that i'm overlooking, or a tweak to allow this?
thanks.
Yeah I noticed the same thing in the car today. Maybe because of whether it is discoverable or not? When you turn that on it only does 120secs. I haven't played with it, but i sure hope it can auto connect, or at least with froyo.
It auto-connects to my car, but not to my home phone. I think that's because the car itself initializes the connection... Would be nice to figure out how to fix this, so I wouldn't have to connect manually every time I come home.
wgarrido said:
Yeah I noticed the same thing in the car today. Maybe because of whether it is discoverable or not? When you turn that on it only does 120secs. I haven't played with it, but i sure hope it can auto connect, or at least with froyo.
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In my 10' BMW, I had to check mark to always allow the car to access my contacts. Once I did that, it would automatically connect to my car upon startup of the car.
Hope that helps.
rajsharma714 said:
In my 10' BMW, I had to check mark to always allow the car to access my contacts. Once I did that, it would automatically connect to my car upon startup of the car.
Hope that helps.
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in my '10 Genesis Coupe, I cannot get it to auto connect, even though i reset it two times and checked "always allow." This is the first phone this has ever happened with, every other one auto connected (HTC Touch Pro2 with winmo 6.5 AND a hacked android 2.0, htc hero w/ 2.0 and 2.1, n1 w/ 2.1 and 2.2, and a feature samsung phone) so I know its not the car.
Any more ideas?
What I figured out is that auto-connect on this phone just doesn't seem to work at all. The only time it auto-connects is to my 06 Acura when I start it and only if it's not already connected to anything else. But that's because when I start my car, it's the car that initiates a connection, not the phone. If I'm connected to something else (like my home phone, for example), when I start my car, and drive off, Bluetooth connection to my home phone will get dropped after I get away for more than 100 feet, but it will never connect to my car after that. And it never connects to my home phone on it's own. Very painful!:-(
My Captivate will automatically connect to my Parrot hands free device when I get into the car. I don't know which device is pushing the connection. However, I also have a Miccus BluBridge Receiver in my car plugged into the Aux jack. This device doesn't auto connect.
To get things working I have to go to the home screen, settings, wireless, blue tooth, then click on the device. A friend of mine was talking about Tasker as a possible app to use, but I don't really want to spend the money on it until I know it will do what I want. The other annoyance I have is that speaker, headset, and bluetooth volume are all the same. It looked like Tasker would solve my second problem, but perhaps not my first. Has anyone else investigated this?
Bluetooth auto connect
I too thought I had an issue with this. Mine is now working OK most of the time. One thing I discovered is that if there is more than one BT device available the phone sometimes will not connect automatically.
I wonder if this has to do with the fact that it will not connect to more than one device at a time. This is big downside for me that I hope get corrected (but please GPS first)
It won't conect correctly because there is no setting for always visible. The handsfree device searches for your phone to initiate the conection and if it can't see it it won't try to conect.
jbl7979 said:
in my '10 Genesis Coupe, I cannot get it to auto connect, even though i reset it two times and checked "always allow." This is the first phone this has ever happened with, every other one auto connected (HTC Touch Pro2 with winmo 6.5 AND a hacked android 2.0, htc hero w/ 2.0 and 2.1, n1 w/ 2.1 and 2.2, and a feature samsung phone) so I know its not the car.
Any more ideas?
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I also have a Genesis Coupe 2010 (3.8 in case you care) and my vibrant connects just as well as my TouchPro2 and my Nexus One running Foyo.
The Nexus One stock 2.1 never worked, reconnecting every couple of minutes.
My first Vibrant (same as captivate) did not work well either. I expected it was because the BT stack in Eclair did not support car profile, but after I exchanged my Vibrant due to a rattling volume key, it has worked very reliably with the GC'10. It autoconnects ad soon as I turn on the engine, without having to do anythong, followed by "transfer complete".
I leave BT on all the time. My phone is not rooted or modifief in any way, running stock software for everything.
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It won't conect correctly because there is no setting for always visible. The handsfree device searches for your phone to initiate the conection and if it can't see it it won't try to conect.
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That is not true and it is not necessary, not even during pairing, ad the connection is initiated by the phone. Once passkeys are echanged, visibility is not required.
Please verify your answers prior to posting to prevent other people from getting confused.
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in my '10 Genesis Coupe, I cannot get it to auto connect, even though i reset it two times and checked "always allow." This is the first phone this has ever happened with, every other one auto connected (HTC Touch Pro2 with winmo 6.5 AND a hacked android 2.0, htc hero w/ 2.0 and 2.1, n1 w/ 2.1 and 2.2, and a feature samsung phone) so I know its not the car.
Any more ideas?
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What firmware do you have on your GC? Have you deleted all phones?
Things to try:
Delete all phones from the car (setup/delete all phones)
Restore the phone to factory settings.
Upgrade the car's radio/BT firmware (see dealership for details or try gencoupe.com)
Call ATT support (?)
Wait for froyo
Get used to
Return/sell the phone
Hope this helps
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I have the same issue with my Plantronics Voyager Pro . Can't get it to auto-connect! Anyone have an idea what the problem is?
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I am a tech for mercedes and we have to set the phone to always visible or it wont auto connect. It is the same way with pioneer bt radios. I am just speaking from what mercedes told us and personal experience with pairing phones. I have had the problem probobly 100 plus times at work where phones wont auto connect evan though they are paired corectly and when you change the phone to always visible it fixes it every time. I know the phone can initiate the conection, i just know they don't all do it automatically.
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I am a tech for mercedes and we have to set the phone to always visible or it wont auto connect. It is the same way with pioneer bt radios. I am just speaking from what mercedes told us and personal experience with pairing phones. I have had the problem probobly 100 plus times at work where phones wont auto connect evan though they are paired corectly and when you change the phone to always visible it fixes it every time. I know the phone can initiate the conection, i just know they don't all do it automatically.
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Never had the problem with any of the Pioneer radios we've had, and my Eclipse doesn't have that problem either. To be fair, I've no experience with MB cars, but that shouldn't be the case.
I know with my Eclipse HU, I had to initiate the connection while in the phone menu otherwise it would connect for BT audio but not for the phone. After setting up the phone it will connect as its supposed to regardless of what input I'm using.
just as an update to my initial problem... my parrot system in my car auto pairs all the time now (it just takes ~30-45 sec to do so), but the phone still will not auto pair to bt headset or computer...
I don't think its supposed to auto connect to the computer. I think its a need based connection.
And on that note, when i send a file my phone does connect. I don't use a dedicated bt headset so i can't talk about that unfortunately.
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Lucke said:
just as an update to my initial problem... my parrot system in my car auto pairs all the time now (it just takes ~30-45 sec to do so), but the phone still will not auto pair to bt headset or computer...
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When you say 30~45 sec, does it mean from powering the car up until BT is usable through the car system? That's is normal and the duration depends on how many contacts you have in your phone book and how many phones per contact. Mine take about the same.
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I don't think its supposed to auto connect to the computer. I think its a need based connection.
And on that note, when i send a file my phone does connect. I don't use a dedicated bt headset so i can't talk about that unfortunately.
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I agree. It is only supposed to autoconnect to devices that support the handfree profiles, if the handfree profile is set as default.
I tired turning visible on right before i started the car and it connected no problem. Really annoying. I have a pioneer as well. Too bad you can't set it to visible always. Other than that it works much better than it did with the Fuze/Any WinMo phone. Never had a phone that worked right in the car, except for my GF IPhone, works great.
I hope it works better in Froyo.
Here is what I see:
1. 1st time pairing - Both phone and media audio work fine.
2. Next time whenever I would get in the car: Nothing connects automatically. I try to connect manually from the phone, and it takes a while, and media audio connects. Phone audio fails.
3. Now if I go to advanced options and uncheck and re-check phone audio, it seems to connect most of the time.
4. If I unpair and delete the phone from the car's memory, and do it all over, it works for the first time, same as above.
Phone is running stock HTC stuff, no root etc.
Car is Subaru Impreza 2011.
My HTC Aria used to connect both phone and media automatically each time flawlessly. (Running CM6 and 7, <never got a chance to try with stock )
Any pointers would be great!
Thanks
Might be a car problem. My last 2010 VW GTI had a finicky bluetooth. You could stream audio and take calls, but if you walk out of range of the BT while the car is on and walk back in range it won't connect until I reset the head unit. However in my 2011 BMW, I can walk out of range and it instantly connects to my phone when I'm back in range. Connects every time without a flaw (even though I did have some occasionally difficulty with my iphone and bluetooth in the BMW)
I have exactly the same problem as described by the op. Not sure what to do but I don't talk much on the phone so it's not that big of a problem for me. If it was the other way around it would be much bigger problem. Anyone has suggestions? I woud like to make it work as it should.
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Might be a car problem. My last 2010 VW GTI had a finicky bluetooth. You could stream audio and take calls, but if you walk out of range of the BT while the car is on and walk back in range it won't connect until I reset the head unit. However in my 2011 BMW, I can walk out of range and it instantly connects to my phone when I'm back in range. Connects every time without a flaw (even though I did have some occasionally difficulty with my iphone and bluetooth in the BMW)
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I'd have thought that but the aria worked fine!!
dacho said:
I have exactly the same problem as described by the op. Not sure what to do but I don't talk much on the phone so it's not that big of a problem for me. If it was the other way around it would be much bigger problem. Anyone has suggestions? I woud like to make it work as it should.
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For you also, does nothing connect by itself? I'd be somewhat happy if atleast media connected automatically
Once we have a good permanent root solution I'll play with tasker to see if I can create a workaround...but this sucks!
Raider
I have a Rogers Raider and it works really well with my Kia Sorento. I think it is the vehicle or both. Both meaning compatibility issue. I had a Samsung Vibrant (i-9000) and it worked but sometimes it doesn't connect and always seems to upload my address book which takes a long time. With this Raider, it works like a charm. The Raider works before and after root.
Did you check your vehicle Bluetooth vehicle compatibility chart? They might have one.
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I have a Rogers Raider and it works really well with my Kia Sorento. I think it is the vehicle or both. Both meaning compatibility issue. I had a Samsung Vibrant (i-9000) and it worked but sometimes it doesn't connect and always seems to upload my address book which takes a long time. With this Raider, it works like a charm. The Raider works before and after root.
Did you check your vehicle Bluetooth vehicle compatibility chart? They might have one.
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I have a 2010 Hyundai Sante Fe (similar to the Sorento). After initially pairing my Vivid to the car's bluetooth, the two have always connected, reagrdless of whether I turn on BT before or after I get in the car. I also had no problem with the old HTC HD2 (WM6x) and the Santa Fe's bluetooth.
Have you tried un-pairing the phone and car and re-pairing?
Everything works fine with mine too. I have a Toyota with BlueLogic. I used to have this problem with my old device, Motorola Atrix, didn't connect most of the times. I checked many forums and I found out it is a Gingerbread problem, with Froyo everything worked flawlessly.
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I have a Subaru impreza 2011 which has Bluetooth in it, and I just bought an htc rezound. I run all my music via Bluetooth so this is a pressing issue... It pairs and connects just fine the first time but I have to erase the Bluetooth memory on my phone and my stereo and re pair everytime I get in my car. I used go have an iphone and it worked fine. I checked my phone with a Bluetooth headset and it acts just like its supposed to. Any suggestions?
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I have a Subaru impreza 2011 which has Bluetooth in it, and I just bought an htc rezound. I run all my music via Bluetooth so this is a pressing issue... It pairs and connects just fine the first time but I have to erase the Bluetooth memory on my phone and my stereo and re pair everytime I get in my car. I used go have an iphone and it worked fine. I checked my phone with a Bluetooth headset and it acts just like its supposed to. Any suggestions?
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Same symptopm..
My only hope is that the BT libs of CM9 will do some magic
What's CM9?
Mine seems to automatically connect just fine. However from time to time, very few times, the sound won't work right off the bat. If I press the volume rocket it will play a sound. Sometimes I have to press it twice then the sound will come through the speakers and music will play just fine. It's strange and quirky, but eh. Lol so if you're suck without sound, try to adjust your ringer volume to stimulate the sounds before repairing. See if that works.
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What's CM9?
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Cyanogenmod 9, based on AOSP 4, Ice Cream Sandwich. Www.Cyanogenmod.com.
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My car has built in bluetooth connectivity with 2 modes, telephone and media.
Both modes cannot be connected at the same time.
The telephone mode works fine, but the media player mode always fails to connect.
I've had no problems in the past with my SGS1.
I've tried resetting the profiles. I'm on the .350 stock rom but I've added root.
Not sure what I can do now to fix this.
I guess I could upgrade but I'm not sure if it would actually fix the problem.
Does anyone have any ideas?
BTW the car is a Toyota Prius.
All Day On XDA said:
My car has built in bluetooth connectivity with 2 modes, telephone and media.
Both modes cannot be connected at the same time.
The telephone mode works fine, but the media player mode always fails to connect.
I've had no problems in the past with my SGS1.
I've tried resetting the profiles. I'm on the .350 stock rom but I've added root.
Not sure what I can do now to fix this.
I guess I could upgrade but I'm not sure if it would actually fix the problem.
Does anyone have any ideas?
BTW the car is a Toyota Prius.
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Try repairing it with Sony's PC Companion or Sony's Update Service first.
Remember to backup your stuff before proceeding.
Do full wipes.
Update. The Bluetooth pairing with my car is still very buggy.
A quick google search reveals others are having issues too.
I hope Sony address this issue soon.
I'm not having problems with my Bluetooth unit in the car. It connects to both Phone and Media Server. (I have a Kenwood DNX unit)
So I'm still having problems.
The update to 4.2.2 did not help.
So I tried switching to CyanogenMod but the problem persists.
My other phone also running CM has no problems connecting to the telephone and media mode (Samsung Galaxy i9000) so it has to be something going wrong in this phone.
I'm out of ideas. Toyota say it's not a car fault as other phones connect fine.
New Toyotas have a system that's called Touch'n'Go and I managed to test this phone on that and both modes worked fine.
I guess there is an incompatibility between this phone and a perhaps slightly older Bluetooth module in the car. The car is from 2010.
Would be grateful for any ideas.
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I am rooted but still using the stock ROM. I have two Bluetooth-enabled Pioneer head units and a Bluetooth adapter for my home stereo system with this issue, so I know it's not the other Bluetooth device that's the problem.
When I pair the other Bluetooth device, everything works fine until the Bluetooth device disconnects. I either leave the area with my One, or turn the car off. When I come back home or turn the car on, the One will not reconnect unless I manually turn Bluetooth off and turn it back on again. I don't have to redo the pairing, just cycle Bluetooth off and on. This gets really, really annoying with the car stereos because I have to do it every time I make a stop.
The weird thing is, I had the problem before and it went away when the KitKat update was released. Unfortunately it only worked for a few weeks because I sent my One in for the pink camera issue. I did a hard reset before sending it off and rooted it got back, and now the Bluetooth problem has returned even though it's still on 4.4.2.
Anyone know how to make this go away?
No one is having a similar problem or knows how to fix this?
Hey All,
I've done a quick and dirty search for this problem, but I haven't found anything that's exactly the same.
I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
I have done the unpair/re-pair thing a couple of times, but nothing changes.
I had an HTC phone before this, and it'd reconnect automagically to my cars BT server, so I suspect it's nothing to do with the car's BT radio. I really miss that...
Thanks for any suggestions anyone might have in how to remedy this. Fwiw, I'm willing to go through a diagnostic procedure if someone would clue me in to just how to do that.
cheers,
john
I've had issues with the bluetooth and pairing. When I was on 4.2.2 (I think..) it wouldn't connect automatically at all, and I used an app to connect for me. I have a Chevrolet Cobalt and it wouldn't connect to my built in bluetooth for calls or a small bluetooth dongle that I use for playing music through the AUX input on the stock radio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect&hl=en
Once I was on 4.4.2 it seemed to work much better. I have no real issues now on 4.4.4. The only time I notice it not really working right is when I try to connect to the bluetooth speaker in our bathroom at home. If I turn the speaker on, it almost always connects to my girlfriends phone nearly instantly, even though I open the bluetooth menu and tap the paired device to manually initiate right when I turn on the speaker. It usually takes me a few tries to get mine to connect before hers, or I ask her to shut her bluetooth off for a moment while I connect. She uses the speaker every day because she leaves for work after me, so it only happens to me 1-2 times per month on the off chance that I want to listen to music or a baseball game in the shower, so it never really bothered me much.
I think the bluetooth radio in this phone could be better.. I never had any similar issues with my Droid X or Moto Razr Maxx so I'm not sure what the deal is...
Edit: forgot to mention I also have an XT1060, but not dev edition. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted, but using the official 4.4.4 VZW rom with Xposed.
I have never had any issues pairing Bluetooth - on either my car or moto 360 watch (even simultaneously).
However, I have noticed that the Bluetooth connects much quicker on custom ROMs when compared to stock.
I think tour connection issue may be a setting or rogue app related.
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Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
jrredho said:
Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
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You may need to delete the profile for the Bluetooth pairing in your car. Could be a conflict there.
Otherwise, try looking at your Bluetooth settings on the phone.
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I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Guys, thanks for staying with me on this. One thing I've definitely learned is that the bluetooth thing is something I'm pretty ignorant on. I can see that I'm going to have to study it a bit before too long. Gad, that HTC spoiled me rotten---at least in that way.
I haven't tried the phone with any other BT devices. This is mostly because I don't own but two, the car and a travel speaker, and I haven't had the speaker out of its case since I scored the phone six or eight weeks ago. Also, I did some housecleaning, so I have only a small fraction, maybe 20%, of the same apps on the MotoX that I had on the HTC. I have no apps on the MotoX that I didn't have on the latter.
As for some of the car-related suggestions, it's a 2015 Subaru Forester Premium 2.5i, which is really only level up from the base model of that line. I can't find that there is a bluetooth profile setting in the car that I can change; I think that it's too basic. The relevant user manual simply states the following:
Media format
Bluetooth audio devices cannot be
connected if they are not compatible with
the following Bluetooth® profiles.
. A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution
Profile)
. AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control
Profile)
I don't even know what either of those mean!
Anyway, what I did do is go to the phone settings, and uncheck the Media box that shows up once the car's BT server is detected. Then I try to connect with the Phone box checked. It'll still fail to connect several times, but (a) it doesn't take as long to fail to connect, (b) it doesn't take as many tries (it seems) to make the connection, and (c) when it fails, it fails totally, so I don't have to disconnect from 'Media-only Connected (No Phone)' connection. That makes it easier I suppose. Then once the connection is established, it's a simple matter to go back to settings, and check the Media box. That add-on connection happens pretty quickly, but the process is still a little overwrought, imo.
Of course, KidJoe, up until you mentioned a Headset Profile, I didn't know one existed. But when I try to play music on my phone using PowerAmp, well, the app doesn't hook up to the BT anyway. That's a key difference between the HTC and the MotoX. In PowerAmp, I have "Play over Bluetooth on Detection" selected. The headset isn't being detected at all. So maybe that goes some distance to explaining what I'm encountering.
Again thanks to both of guys for hanging in there with me! I'll keep trudging "onward through the fog," as it were...
cheers,
john
A2DP and AVRC are used for Bluetooth Stereo audio streaming (like playing Pandora on your phone via your car stereo). Not phone calls.
For phone calls, usually a Headset or Handsfree profiles are used, and sometimes BT Phone Book Access (so you can see your phone's contact names/numbers on the car's screen).
I've run into compatibility issues between some phones and some Headset/Handfree devices (mostly cars, but a few bluetooth headsets too). Often times when this happens, you're stuck. Each side will blame the other (i.e. Moto will blame the Subaru car stereo, and Subaru will blame the phone).
I have had issues re-connecting to my car (a 2011 Saab 9-4x with Bose/Nav), IF I had my Moto S11 Flex HD headset connected to my Moto X before I got in the car (even if the S11 was powered off/disconnected from the X before I started the car). Usually toggling the X's bluetooth off/on, and sometimes worst case rebooting the phone, has always fixed it.. Another time I had troubles connecting to my Saab's car kit was when my wife was using her phone to stream audio. The next time I got in the car, I had to manually connect my phone. The car always tries to connect to the the last phone used, so it was looking for my wifes and it took a while before it timed out. When it did time out, it didn't look for mine.
Since you have a 2015 Subaru, I would consider visiting your car dealer, ask them to help with pairing the phone properly, and making sure its working right. See what they have to say.
My bluetooth in my car stopped pairing the other day, and it turns out it was an app that updated and requested permissions related to bluetooth. I didn't notice them because it's an app I trust so I accepted the new permissions without really looking at it.
I used App Settings (Xposed module) to disable the permissions and my bluetooth works fine again.
I could still pair with things if I went to the bluetooth paired device list and manually tapped on the device I wanted to connect with, but it would not pair automatically (like when I got in my car). Once I disabled that permission, it started working again without issue.
May be worth a look through your installed apps to see if anything has access to bluetooth and may be interfering.
Hey All,
Thanks again for the continued help!
It's true, I didn't do any research on app interference before I posted this thread topic, but since a couple of you have brought it up, I decided to do a little research. I installed a permissions app, and took a look at the permissions that allows an app to automatically seek out, and pair with, Bluetooth servers. I have to admit, I got some surprises there. (Who would've thought that Beautiful Widgets needed that permission; it is now gone.)
Anyway, most of the remaining apps are either system/Moto-related, or ones I would really like to keep. I'll report back on what I learn. If there are other permissions that I need to reference besides the two pairing-connecting to Bluetooth ones please let me know...
cheers,
john