Welcome to the open discussion of BetterBatteryStats.​
I would like everyone to give a big hug(and thanks) to aashay960 for finding this app:
BetterBatteryStats​
What does it do?
Well it records the power usage of every single thing that drains battery from your phone.
And when I say everything I mean everything. Wakelocks, apps, alarms, you name it.
Why the fudge would I download it?
Spontaneously this great dude in the second post had the idea to tackle the not-so-great battery life on our device when it runs an overclocked kernel and/or in general.
You will be helping us find the heavy draining apps and stuff, which would lead to their fix.
And you will increase your own battery life if you provide us with good feedback.
Woah thats great, how can I help?
Check the second post for tips tricks and instructions on how to operate this app.
I hate this app, and I hate you.
*hugs* Have a great day :3
Don't forget to hit the thanks button in the original thread for buy it from the app store if you really enjoyed working with it. :3
Note:Since i got bored i will be updating the layout from my 10.1" screen laptop. Lets see how it goes.
Guys, if we want to pull this off we will need all of you to contribute to this thread. There are a lot of factors that can affect your battery stats and I will not be surprised if everyone gets different results. But that is exactly why we need as many results as possible.
Here's what you should do..
ONE-TIME STEPS
Go to the original thread. (Link in OP)
Have a good read
Download and install the app
Open the app
Have a look around then go to Menu>Settings>Advanced> select Root features
In the main screen of the app, press "other" and select "Alarm". It will ask for superuser permission, Grant it.
STEPS WHEN REPORTING
Charge your phone fully (so that we get more data)
After you unplug your charger, go to the app and make sure the second line says "unplugged"
Then, Forget about the app (well, not completely )
Use your phone like you normally would. The more you use it, the more data we will have. Leave it overnight if you can.
IMPORTANT - DO THE NEXT STEP BEFORE YOU PLUG IN YOUR CHARGER OTHERWISE ALL WILL BE WASTED
When it is time to charge you phone again, go to the app, Select Menu>More>Raw Stats
Click on "Other" and take screen shots of the following screens
Partial wakelock (very important)
Kernel Wakelock
Alarms
Process
Network
HOW TO REPORT
Name of Rom:
Name of Kernel:
Battery drain per hour: (it is mentioned on the main screen of the app below "current")
The screen shots:
Anything else you would like to mention :laugh:
Optional - CPU Settings(max/min, governor etc)
POINTS TO REMEMBER
Your stats will depend on a LOT of factors and you will get somewhat different stats every time you charge.
Please do not post screenshots as soon as you install the app. It will be useless. The app needs time to collect data.
The more (number of hours) you use the phone, the better the stats will be.
Please visit the thread every 2 or 3 days and post your (new) results. It will hardly take time to take 5 screenshots
And dont worry, BetterbatteryStats itself will not cause any battery drain
All this might seem confusing but it is all really very simple. I have tried to make this post with extreme detail so that all the members can help.
Aww man.. I had been collecting data for almost 20 hours. Battery went from 100 to 27. Then i rebooted the phone for some other reason and now its all gone.WIll have to start again... Lesson learned
I found this guide on wakelocks that explains the most common ones. Really helpful.
OP Updated, hopefully people can get a better idea of what we are aiming for.
Also aashaay, i suggest that we elaborate on a proper etiquette and topic layout in your guide. It would be super usefull for people that are just getting started. PM me so we can find an enviorment that lets us do that.
Edit: OP maystill go under some changes, but the link will remain.
N.O.P.E.
JB MINI
7.3 pH
Hope this is right.
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wilberfish said:
N.O.P.E.
JB MINI
7.3 pH
Hope this is right.
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Thank you for posting. The 3 major battery suckers in your phone are wifi, facebook and google services. As I myself dont use wifi, I will not be able to comment on that.
As far as facebook and google services go , I would Suggest getting an app called Greenify. I have been using this app myself and so far it has proved to be really effective. And its really easy to use.
The downside is
Facebook - No more push notifications. You will have to open the app when you want to see your notifications and stuff..
Google services - You will not be able to install apps directly from your PC. You have to go to the Play Store in your phone. I dont think this should be a big problem though.
On the upside, you will see a much better battery life and maybe a increase in performance as these apps will not constantly run in the background. They will run as usual when you personally launch them. Give this a try. Hope this helps.
PS - I would personally suggest getting rid of the facebook app and using your browser to go to m.facebook.com. That will be even better. The facebook app has been known to cause a lot of wakelocks and unnecessary background processes. It is your choice though. Best of luck
Get rid of the Facebook app, it's balls lol. I've greenified play services and so I needed to do to install from PC is open play store on my phone. No big deal. If you really don't want to use m. Facebook. What I would suggest you going for either flipster or any other substitute. Just don't use the default one. Disable Wi-Fi when you are not using it and you should be good to go :3
P.S. May I suggest you put greenify in the instructions, aashay? Like " What to do after you collected data"
Thanks
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me4488 said:
Get rid of the Facebook app, it's balls lol. I've greenified play services and so I needed to do to install from PC is open play store on my phone. No big deal. If you really don't want to use m. Facebook. What I would suggest you going for either flipster or any other substitute. Just don't use the default one. Disable Wi-Fi when you are not using it and you should be good to go :3
P.S. May I suggest you put greenify in the instructions, aashay? Like " What to do after you collected data"
Thanks
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I dont think Greenify will 'always' be the solution to the problem. I would say as people post their stats we could help them out with it (only once though, I'm not answering the facebook thing again lol). So after a while we will have a database of problems and solutions that others users can just go through and use the 'search' button. What do you say?
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I dont think Greenify will 'always' be the solution to the problem. I would say as people post their stats we could help them out with it (only once though, I'm not answering the facebook thing again lol). So after a while we will have a database of problems and solutions that others users can just go through and use the 'search' button. What do you say?
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Yeah i went ahead of myself with this. I tend to get overexcited about helping, and also the sun isnt really helping my brain work clearer.
Lets wait it out and get some more data, I should have my screenshots posted tonight if i dont accidentaly charge my phone.
Yeah me too.. I always accidentally reboot or charge before taking the screenshots
I have uninstalled fb and some other rubbish and got greenify.
Will let you know the results tonight.
Thank you both for your help.
Nope kernel
Default cm10
3.7% p/h
13 hours of runtime.
[Dat candy crush]
me4488 said:
Nope kernel
Default cm10
3.7% p/h
13 hours of runtime.
[Dat candy crush]
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I think I can help you reduce the com.android.gsf wakelock (alarm)..
>Get the app called Autorun Manager
>Go to Menu - Settings - Enable system app disable (it should be checked)
>Press home and then go back to the app
>Look for 'Google Services Framework' in the list (NOT 'Google Services')
>Uncheck anything with 'gtalkservice' in it. (There should be about 5 or 6)
I think that might help you. i did that and I rarely get alarms from that anymore. And greenify facebook messenger if you want
Cyanogenmod 10
Prometheus Kernel (800max)
Per hour - 1.8% (which is amazing)
Run Time - 1 day 5 hours 48 mins 21 secs
Screenshots attached
Comments - The major suckers were whatsapp, Onavo count and E-mail (for some strange reason).
I cannot greenify or do anything else with whatsapp and onavo because they are way too important for me.
I do NOT use push notifications for Email .I have set it to sync every 30 mins (which is pretty conservative). Maybe its a one time thing and a reboot should fix it. If it happens again in the next run, I'll look into it.
Well after doing everything you suggested and greenify almost everything I am now on 42% after 20 hrs at 1.6 pH.
Amazing people, thank you.
wilberfish said:
Well after doing everything you suggested and greenify almost everything I am now on 42% after 20 hrs at 1.6 pH.
Amazing people, thank you.
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You do know that greenify means no background processes right? That means no more push messages. Make sure you know what you are doing. Have a read about that app on the official thread on xda. It'll help you understand better.
Yes I did read up on it first. I left things like whatsapp, BBS, gmail and WiFi keep alive active.
I didn't realize just how bad fbook was.
Getting a lot better now.
Can you tell me what the deleted_wake_locks are?
Never mind, searched and found out.
The search bar is so underrated!
Thanks again.
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Can you tell me what the deleted_wake_locks are?
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There is a link in post #4 of this thread which explains the common wakelocks.
Yes, sorry!
I did search when I realised how lazy just asking for solutions rather than searching was!
Related
This is a senseless rom. Works great.
You can grab it from here:
http://inc.sodpit.com/roms/ozzeh/
Just installed this rom. It seems to work pretty smooth but when I went into accounts to add gmail it doesnt list it as an option. A big part of the phone experience is having this integration but it looks like it has been taken out. If I am missing something please let me know.
Thanks for the effort!
http://roms.sodpit.com/2010/06/22/unrevolved-zip-by-ozzeh/ you need to install google apps
You can also add your gmail account to the native Mail App but, that takes away from the senseless feel though.
Nice job ozzeh, feels very fast. Very clean.
Btw setcpu doesn't work, does it? (Only questioned your screenshot)
My main question would be, do you see better battery life with the Sense-less UI? I don't really have a problem with Sense in general, other than it seems to run a lot of cr*p in the background, my assumption is this adds to the terrible battery life of the Incredible (compared to the Moto Droid, even when overclocked). Just curious on your experiences with battery life with this rom, might make it worth it.
kentoe said:
Nice job ozzeh, feels very fast. Very clean.
Btw setcpu doesn't work, does it? (Only questioned your screenshot)
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I've never used it but, from what I hear it doesn't work yet.
CaptainTaco said:
My main question would be, do you see better battery life with the Sense-less UI? I don't really have a problem with Sense in general, other than it seems to run a lot of cr*p in the background, my assumption is this adds to the terrible battery life of the Incredible (compared to the Moto Droid, even when overclocked). Just curious on your experiences with battery life with this rom, might make it worth it.
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I just installed it this morning around 6am so far the battery life is alot better but, I'm use to having over fifty apps installed. Give it a day or two, for some real results.
Can't download
When I click the link to download, it just redirects me back to the same page. When I click the apps link, get a cannot be found error.
Anybody else experiencing this??
edit...nevermind. You have to download from the roms.sodpit.com frontpage. Won't download from http://roms.sodpit.com/2010/06/22/unrevolved-zip-by-ozzeh/roms/ozzeh/apps.zip
LOVING the home screen rotation, AH finally! Might actually stick with this one for a bit after I try out jager 1.1
Silly Questions
But, I am really curious how the facebook / contact integration is without the htc sense facebook integration? Is it the same I like that all my facebook contacts link to my google contacts, but does this option go away with sense?
Also sharing photos from the gallery with HTC facebook, seems like it would go away too, and while I haven't used the regular facebook for some time, I remember it not being as easy and as convenient as the other (i.e. couldn't add the photo and create a new album at the same time, etc)
anyone care to share their experience with these 2 things?
can't get this to flash. MD5 sum is correct and everything seems fine but it hangs at the white incredible boot screen forever! Tried everything but it never works, Oh well.
Try redownloading it through your PC browser or phone browser...it works fine for everyone else so there is no reason it shouldn't work for you...other than an error on your end.
ozzeh, my nandroid backups got screwed up. Your unrevolved rom is my default rom for now, hope it'll support me
Is it possible to backup text messages? It'd be nice to have them persist after the flash
nrvn93 said:
Is it possible to backup text messages? It'd be nice to have them persist after the flash
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yes! SMS backup and restore in the market or Titanium Back up. SMS backup and restore does not need root but ii recommend it 100%!
For some reason Gmail and Google Talk have the 'unknown' android icon, and they both force close when trying to launch... what did I do wrong? Market works fine. I tried applying apps.zip downloaded (twice) from my laptop and once from inside the phone browser to no avail.
ejkeebler said:
But, I am really curious how the facebook / contact integration is without the htc sense facebook integration? Is it the same I like that all my facebook contacts link to my google contacts, but does this option go away with sense?
Also sharing photos from the gallery with HTC facebook, seems like it would go away too, and while I haven't used the regular facebook for some time, I remember it not being as easy and as convenient as the other (i.e. couldn't add the photo and create a new album at the same time, etc)
anyone care to share their experience with these 2 things?
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for me the facebook integration is still essentially the same. and i say that because you can still link all ur facebook contacts to google. also sharing is still the same, as the facebook app for android is the same for sense as well. Now, the caveat to this is I came from my sprint Hero phone with no sense and that is how it worked. Also, I have not personally used this ROM yet.
Honestly77 said:
Try redownloading it through your PC browser or phone browser...it works fine for everyone else so there is no reason it shouldn't work for you...other than an error on your end.
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Considering I am having the same problem, do tell, what error on our end would it be? I mean, yeah, the phone was wiped. The MD5s match. So whats the issue?
Its easy to say user error, its quite another to actually help someone out and explain the problem. If you don't know, then don't say it.
I've compiled my own roms for the Moto Droid, and have never had issues flashing them. I think I am qualified enough to flash a copy and paste job.
Is this what you have to do to apply the rom?
1 Download the build.
2 Rename it to "update.zip".
3 Copy it to the root of your phone's SD card.
4 Turn your phone off.
5 Start up in recovery mode by holding Home and pressing Power.
6 Press ALT+W to wipe your device. (You need to do this, or the device may hang at the flashing Android screen)
7 Press ALT+S to apply the update.
One other thing, if this is truly a sense free ROM, I wonder if JIT will play nice with it. I know JIT hated Sense, perhaps someone with the ROM installed wants to give it a try? I'll try it out later if I have time to install the rom.
I am not rooted and want to know other than using ATK, is there anyway to stop Sprint TV and Sprint V-Mail to load on start up, I know we cannot uninstall if not rooted but don't want them running in the background every time I reboot, other than ending the task on every reboot any other suggestion if possible
Not that I'm aware of.
Even though they come on at start-up, they really don't drain that much on your active memory or battery because they don't get used, so after a little while Android kinda shifts them into the background basically. So while it still looks like they're running, Android's default memory management is such that those programs/services won't really hurt your performance since they aren't being actively used.
There is no way to do that without rooting.
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I am not rooted and want to know other than using ATK, is there anyway to stop Sprint TV and Sprint V-Mail to load on start up, I know we cannot uninstall if not rooted but don't want them running in the background every time I reboot, other than ending the task on every reboot any other suggestion if possible
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No. But why would you want to? It won't slow down your phone (I promise )
Just install a task manager and if you're seeing it, add it to the ignore list.
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Just install a task manager and if you're seeing it, add it to the ignore list.
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Just know that adding a program to Ignore doesn't actually kill/end the app. It only makes it not show up in the list of running/active programs. There will also be some kind of kill/end option which does close the app. (at least that's the way it is in the couple task managers I've used)
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You are correct thus the reason I did away with the TK, and you are all right as it does not really use up much memory, as I downloaded Spare Parts and those both apps when I check the battery stats in the CPU usage they don't even show up. I promise boys one day I will Root just for the experience and I know I may never look back, the only reason why I have not yet is because ever since I did away with Sense UI and have been using Launcher Pro my lag has been much much less and the phone is working much better, and the sleep mode issue I have been having only happens once a week now, thanks all
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Just know that adding a program to Ignore doesn't actually kill/end the app. It only makes it not show up in the list of running/active programs. There will also be some kind of kill/end option which does close the app. (at least that's the way it is in the couple task managers I've used)
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DonB. said:
...I promise boys one day I will Root just for the experience and I know I may never look back, the only reason why I have not yet is because ever since I did away with Sense UI and have been using Launcher Pro my lag has been much much less and the phone is working much better, and the sleep mode issue I have been having only happens once a week now, thanks all
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Yeah dude, it's your phone...so do whatever it is that you want/need to make it good for you. That's a main reason we're here -- to help users get their phones working just the way want them to. Last time I checked we weren't running ppl off for not being rooted
Ha, I think I rooted my phone within an hour of getting it in the mail from Sprint, just to remove the bloatware.
I found a cached process called 'talk' (the little white speech bubble). I ended this this morn and my battery life seems to have lasted a lot lot longer today. And the Android process no longer takes the most of my battery usage and has reverted back to being the screen that does so!
Are these coincidences? I still can't post in the relevant dev section so I put it here...
Edit: Using Hacksungs build 8
Indeed!
o0wiz0o said:
I found a cached process called 'talk' (the little white speech bubble). I ended this this morn and my battery life seems to have lasted a lot lot longer today. And the Android process no longer takes the most of my battery usage and has reverted back to being the screen that does so!
Are these coincidences? I still can't post in the relevant dev section so I put it here...
Edit: Using Hacksungs build 8
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Probably not a coincidence.
The same thing has been reported by multiple users, all over the ICS forums.
Uninstall the default TALK app, & then reinstall TALK off the market. That's the solution.
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Probably not a coincidence.
The same thing has been reported by multiple users, all over the ICS forums.
Uninstall the default TALK app, & then reinstall TALK off the market. That's the solution.
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Thing is there is no Talk app on the market, there is Google Voice, but thats not the same thing!
Thanks. Uninstalled and will see how it goes...
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After a full charge, without even touching it, it drains the battery quite fast! Also I've been on a full Charge and not even an hour of screen time and already 65%. And I've only been using Talk and the xda premium app.
My current rom is aokp_galaxysmtd_jb_build-4
I would most appreciate it if any of you would suggest different kernels or roms or something that could help me with this situation.
Get the BetterBattery Stats app from the market. It gives a much more detailed view on what is eating your battery. I had a similar problem and helped me out with finding a bad app running in the background.
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Get the BetterBattery Stats app from the market. It gives a much more detailed view on what is eating your battery. I had a similar problem and helped me out with finding a bad app running in the background.
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Thank you very much, I'm going to try it and let you know.
EDIT: I used the app, and it doesn't seem like any apps are running in the background other then the default apps such as calander, google search,clock, etc...
Likely it's just my faulty rom (AOKP). I will consider changing it. Thanks for the help btw!
I am running DarkyROM with a semaphore kernel. Really fast and great battery life.
YeledKaki said:
Thank you very much, I'm going to try it and let you know.
EDIT: I used the app, and it doesn't seem like any apps are running in the background other then the default apps such as calander, google search,clock, etc...
Likely it's just my faulty rom (AOKP). I will consider changing it. Thanks for the help btw!
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Make sure to also check CPU states in the BetterBatteryStats app. When not doing anything your phone should go into deep sleep. If it doesnt, you can check the Kernel Wakelock en Partial Wakelocks in that app to see what is keeping your phone awake.
PS: I'm using X-Bean 3.0 rom with Semaphore kernel 2.6.1 and very happy with it.
Dear xda users,
I have quiet some time a problem getting notification message in whatsapp and hangouts (even in the previously version on Google talk).
When i clear all apps with Task Manager. Exit to home screen. meaning, Whatsapp is not running in the background, I get no pushed messages, no notifications. Nothing at all.
I then launch the app and get all my "missed" message ,then exit back to the home screen and now I see the messages and notifications.
The same thing happen when the screen is off,actually it seem it start there.
I have no limitation on the background apps,surf only with 3g and it is happen also with hangouts,it is started a few months back before google update her app,in the old Google talk also.
The most strange thing is when i launch a game,because it uses the internet when i exit from it and not clear my task manger it seems like whatsapp and hangout getting the message for day or two and there again nothing,maybe i imagine i really do not know
My phone model is i9305 with official Samsung Nordic Rom.
i used avast anti virus until couple days ago.
By the way whatsapp+ that i saw here recently could help me in any way?
I really appreciate your help. :good:
want to clear it one and for all to enjoy my phone.
Thanks in advance,
David
Hi David,
you kinda answered yourself, the problem is with the task manager. I suggest reading the following:
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Chris Hoffman can explain better than me
BTW it's also says directly on whatsapp that it will not work well with task managers.
Cheers
Dear eytan123,
Thank you for your replay,I want to clarify myself and tell you that i do not use any external task manger,but only the built in one in jellybean.
In addition even when i do not "clear" my ram it still no working,i also compare it to others galaxy 3-i9300&i9305 that use and clear the ram with the built in task manager and still not suffer from this Phenomenon.
I guess Samsung keeps this app because it lets inexperienced users(unlike you and myself, or for that matter anyone in XDA ) the feeling that they can upgrade their performance...anyhow - It's strongly suggested that you don't activate\use ANY task killer.
Why not trying the suggested method for a couple of days? I'm sure your results will be much better
Thanks again for trying to help,but i already try this couple of times before open this thread.
Unfortunately not a single method that i tried was useful to me.
like to hear if you have another idea
upp
bumping a thread more than once every 24 hours is against the rules. don't post until you read them
Just noticed you asked about the whatsapp+ - it's not supposed to make things any better, only customizations. And you said the problem persists at the new hangouts.
If you're certain that your internet connection(cellular of course) is working good, before I suggest wiping and re-flashing or trying another rom I suggestthat you use the following app(it increases battery usage in a VERY MINOR way):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbmRxbGltYXgucHVzaGZpeGVyIl0.
Try clear data
Make sure sync is on
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Hi,
Thanks eytan123 but this app that you gave me it is just for rooted phones,i do not want to root my phone in this moment,about the rom,it is the same problem that i experienced in my previous official rom.
Still glad to hear about this app for future notice
Thanks hello5629,if you mean to clear app data i already try this also
You wanna tell me that only my phone suffer this problem?
Just making sure - have you tried to uninstall and reinstall the apps ?
yep,several times..
Well I guess that leaves you with factory reset your phone.
But since your'e not rooted keep in mind you'll lose all your apps..
ya i know,i do not really want to do it,i think i will open a thread in general android forum,maybe there when it is not only i9305 community,maybe some will have the answer.
Thanks again for your effort