Hotspot not so unlimited with root. - T-Mobile USA LTE - Nexus 4 General

Got cut off today while finishing the Dragon Ball series. I have LTE enabled and was streaming with it. I still love t-mo though, coming from Sprint their speeds are to die for.
Didn't see a thread about this.
Edit: not to say they ever implied it was unlimited in the first place, but it would seem so with root.
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which plan are you on?

PhantomGamers said:
which plan are you on?
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Unlimited 4G with 500MB hotspot. Took Sprint 2.5 years to catch me tethering without paying with hot spot hack on sph-d700 (epic 4g)
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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
Edit: beat me to it
They probably noticed quickly because it was so much data in a short period of time. If you spread out the tethering more (maybe less video), they probably wouldn't notice. I'm on the $30 prepaid plan and tether around 5gb a month but I spread it out over a couple days (maybe 500-2gb a day) and haven't been caught yet.

lazer155 said:
Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
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Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem

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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem
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Smasung series 3 Chromebook? If not it's cool. Guess I gotta wait till I can wait to get a PC and patience for anime episodes lol
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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Yeah you can spoof it by changing your browser setting. Depending on your browser you can look it up: http://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how...user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/
It's a feature built into basically all browsers.
It decreases your chances of being detected but it really depends on how tmobile detects tethering. The user agent way is the simpliest and quickest but they can also do it by TTL (time to live) of the packets your computer requests as you for example watch videos or browse. They can also detect it other ways but those are 2 of the more common ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734138 Post 8 explains the TTL method a bit more
Basically changing your user agent is the quickest method that my help a bit (depending on if they favor that detection method). Using a vpn on your computer might further and better prevent detection. (I've never tried this myself but in theory it might help more than a simple user agent change. You can find guides of other methods people use to try and get around it. I haven't heavily investigated any other methods aside from the vpn and user agent since I've never been cut off so I don't really know of of any specific ones.
I personally think the thing that really tips them off is a huge spike in usage for a short time period.
If you tether over bluetooth or USB, you basically never get caught in my experience as well as several others I know who do the same. So I would try that. It's a bit slower but not bad.
I'd suggest bluetooth or usb tethering next time and see if that prolongs your hotspot usage. But as I mentioned, I really think it is the massive usage spike in a short time that tips them off so you may still get caught. When I use bluetooth and usb tethering, I still try not to go to heavy on usage over short periods.
I suspect that the TTL method may be more commonly used since it's not easily avoidable so you are best off slowing your usage when you are tethered. It would be very easy for them to see a spike in usage and check the TTL of your packets, realize you're tethering, then cut it off. It's more reliable than user agents.

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It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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Lol no problem, glad it works for you now. :highfive: Yeah that is the downside I forgot to mention. You can try to fix that problem by experimenting with making your browser look like other desktop browsers (for example maybe tmobile doesn't block some of the more obscure desktop browsers like opera etc.) or copying your phone's desktop style user agent in chrome. That might result in desktop style pages but tmobile will think you are a phone requesting desktop. (the user agent actually shows your operating system too so if you spoof that part to android you should be able to get desktop style while still staying hidden) You'd have to look up the android chrome desktop user agent though. I don't know what it is.
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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Yeah they do seem to figure out the user agent trick eventually if you use it several times. That's happened to other people I know. I think if you keep using a lot of data when tethering eventually they review your usage more carefully with their other methods like the TTL check.

Absolutely no less than 90% of this has been used while connected via native wifi tethering, and this usage is over the course of only 2 weeks. I have unlimited 4g (prepaid) and no tethering plan at all.
I've gotten a page that says I'm either not authorized to tether or over my limit two or three times in the last 3 days, but I just disable/re-enable tethering and reload the page....that's solved it every time.
just in case anyone is wondering, I'm using native wifi/usb tether on official PA (always the latest build) and franco M3 kernel....I've also got the chrome user agent switcher installed on my phone and set to desktop. I'm sure that doesn't matter, but I thought I should mention it. I'm also using chrome on my ubuntu PC with no user agent switcher installed.
I'm curious how much data everyone else who has had a problem tethering have used. I'm pretty sure my usage is way heavier than probably 99% of their customers...even those of us here

You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?

CrashTestDroid said:
You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?
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I stay on LTE, no serious difference in battery lifeand I'm usually plugged in while I tether, so battery life doesn't matter much there. Perfectly stable until T-Mo discovers you're over the limit.
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I wonder if whether or not T-mobile can measure how much data you've used for tethering without using their hotspot app (what they use on T-mobile branded phones to meter tethering usage) depends on the APN you're connected through?
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Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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Phone, I don't see much point in paying two different companies for the same service lol
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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No, I know it's not the Chromecast at fault, just stating I was using that to stream though. I'm surprised at how well its working and I've never streamed 1080p before so the jump in data usage caught me off guard a bit.

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Rate limiting in the Revolution??

My 4G hits 20 Mbps constantly. I would hate to tether to my PC and hit my data limit in 20 minutes.
Does anyone know if the LG Revolution can be configured to rate limit the download or upload connections? This way I can make sure that I'm not over using it?
If nobody is doing this I will see if I can program it, my skills are a bit rusty though.
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My 4G hits 20 Mbps constantly. I would hate to tether to my PC and hit my data limit in 20 minutes.
Does anyone know if the LG Revolution can be configured to rate limit the download or upload connections? This way I can make sure that I'm not over using it?
If nobody is doing this I will see if I can program it, my skills are a bit rusty though.
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I'm not sure what you are saying, but just because speedtest shows 20mb/s doesn't mean you are actually doing that while tethered to a computer. The only way is if you are streaming high def movies our downloading heavy files. To keep an eye on data usage you can use the My Verizon app.
For example, I turn on the tether and let a friend and his laptop connect. If he had bittorrent running he could easily max out my usage in less than 1 hour under ideal circumstances.
Currently I don't know of a way to prevent this, trusting my friend may be a mistake. If I had controls on bandwidth and even firewall out some ports/protocols like bittorrent then I wouldn't have to worry at all.
Tell your friend to get his own Internet.... Just sayin... Lol problem solved!
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Bittorrent and a limited data plan don't go together. And yes, your friend could eat up your usage real fast and cause you overage charges.
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Doing this very easily could require Kernel support. Linux obviously supports this ability but is it built into the linux Kernel for Android?
this makes no sense, why would you use a limited data plan and plan on letting people use your phone like this? Wifi tether has a built in log that shows data usage while using tether.

Coming from Android with a few questions...

I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
Looking forward to WM8 & thanks all for any help!
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On WP8 only way to tether (I could be wrong) is to pay carrier extra fee. I am waiting on another option as well, and as far as mass text you can do that in the groups setting I send out text to 16 people at a time for basketball games and such. And the room feature seems to be nice but I haven't used it yet. There is also http://xyo.net/lumia/ which will tell you what apps are somewhat equivalent.
WP8 -- in settings has an option for internet sharing (no app needed) that provides up to 5 other devices (at least on my 920 with AT&T). I assume that this is a general option in WP8 ...
I have the shared data plan that allows tethering, so I am not sure if networks need to have it allowed in order to use it ...
But, the option is there without the need of an app ...
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I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
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wi-fi tethering is a built-in feature in WP8 (since WP7.5) - it's called "internet sharing". i have no problem with at&t, using my nokia 920 as a wi-fi AP for my notebook and my ms surface rt. i can even go remotely to my work computer through VPN.
you can create a group, adding anybody from your contacts. after that you can send email or text sms to all the contacts from this group - just by one click.
and yes, you don't need any additional applications for these features.
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On WP8 only way to tether (I could be wrong) is to pay carrier extra fee. I am waiting on another option as well, and as far as mass text you can do that in the groups setting I send out text to 16 people at a time for basketball games and such. And the room feature seems to be nice but I haven't used it yet. There is also http://xyo.net/lumia/ which will tell you what apps are somewhat equivalent.
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i've been a t-mobile customer, and now i'm an at&t client. i didn't pay anything additional for using my phone as a modem (through bluetooth or wi-fi, whatever) and i'm not paying now. the only payment you should be aware of - for the data, you use. i subscribed to a data shared mobile plan in at&t - $90/mo for 6Gb shared data (plus unlimited voice and text) for up to 10 (i believe) lines (i use 4) plus $35/mo per device. i pay $225/mo for 3 smartphones and 1 simple phone. we've never overlimited our 6Gb plan. though if you do, it costs $15/1Gb.
the room is a cool feature, but it works only for WP-phones. but as i said you can group your contacts to be able to email or text all of them by one click.
I think on Verizon unless I am on the Share all plan I am not allowed to use the wifi/bluetooth tethering. At least without an app like FoxFi. Speaking of contacts... how are they managed on WP8? I will go out on a limb and say iCloud is definitely out and probably so is Gmail... hope its that easy.
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the only payment you should be aware of - for the data, you use. i subscribed to a data shared mobile plan in at&t - $90/mo for 6Gb shared data
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The 6Gb data share plan (for families, or 5Gb for individual) is needed to enable tethering with AT&T ...
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... how are they managed on WP8? I will go out on a limb and say iCloud is definitely out and probably so is Gmail... hope its that easy.
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Gmail is seamless, and so are your contacts if they're synced with Google.
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eth3rton said:
I just ordered a HTC 8x (keeping my 32gb SIII for now) from Verizon and had a few questions. I have not used a Windows phone since my HTC TP2 - which I loved until the HTC Incredible came out. Is there an app that allows WiFi tethering - like FoxFi? I don't use it all that much but when I travel it is nice. I am grandfathered in to unlimited so the tiered plans are not an option. I also use mass txt messages several times (13 team members) a week and I am currently using GoSMS to do it. I am hoping there is a similar app that allows mass txting on Windows Phone OS - stock would be great. Does the wireless charging system use more power than the traditional hard wired cables?
Looking forward to WM8 & thanks all for any help!
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I'm sorry man...but why the hell would you ever leave the gsIII for any other phone period? All the things you need are on Android and the gsIII.
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While the SIII is a great device it is NOT the end all of phones. There are still plenty of force closes and lock ups on the device. I am just wanting to try something different and I have been looking forward to WM8 for a long time. Here's hoping.
^ you might want to read the WPcentral forums, and the iPhone forums, as they do the same lock ups and force closes.
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eth3rton said:
While the SIII is a great device it is NOT the end all of phones. There are still plenty of force closes and lock ups on the device. I am just wanting to try something different and I have been looking forward to WM8 for a long time. Here's hoping.
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the only way to avoid lockups is turning off these phones.
I don't think I've had a lock up or app crash on Windows Phone. They were all too common on iOS though.
But can we leave all the playground arguments over best platform to some other forum? they're only phones at the end of the day.
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I don't think I've had a lock up or app crash on Windows Phone. They were all too common on iOS though.
But can we leave all the playground arguments over best platform to some other forum? they're only phones at the end of the day.
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You're the first person in this thread to mention best platform, no one is arguing.
Crashes are present in Windows Phone as well, but are less obvious as the system simply closes down the app without saying a word.
In most cases, crashes are due to the poorly written app and not the system.
Although I have a killer wifi and university that restarts my phone lol.
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^ you might want to read the WPcentral forums, and the iPhone forums, as they do the same lock ups and force closes.
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After reading several of your posts, I still can't figure out if you are a WP8 supporter or not.
Either way, I have been on Android for my entire cell phone career for several years and most recently had the GS3. I can't even tell you how many force closes I have had from apps, lag and slowdown because of horrible resource management of the OS, dalvik cache slowdown, etc. I rooted all of my devices and was heavily into the technical side of things.
I never had an iPhone but have played with many. Never was my cup of tea, but I won't talk bad about it since I simply don't know enough.
I finally grew tired of it all and purchased a HTC 8X last week. I can tell you that WP8 OS is such a breath of fresh air coming from Android. There is absolutely no lag or slowdown whatsoever....ever. I can pop in and out of apps, do whatever I want and it constantly stays smooth. No ram dumps or reboots required. I also have not had a single force closed app or random reboot like some people have reported. It has been an absolute flawless experience so far.
Just thought I would post some positive energy after a lot of negative. Is WP8 a lot more simple than Android? Yes. Is it a bad thing? No. It's such a seamless and smooth experience that I'm not sure I can' go back to Android at this point. At least not for a while. YMMV.
You quote me why? Who was negative? Just stated a fact, dont be so defensive.
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vetvito said:
You quote me why? Who was negative? Just stated a fact, dont be so defensive.
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I'm not being defensive at all. Just stating my opinion based on your quote. The other reason why I quoted you is that I've seen you all throughout this WP8 forum sort of talking down on WP8. Just curious as to why and which side you are on. Not saying you have to pick a side or you can't talk down on WP8, but just curious.
What have I said down? That it lock ups? Is that a lie? App crashes? Is that a lie?How about random reboots? I could go and mention a host of other things but there is no point.
So don't quote me with baseless rhetoric.
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What have I said down? That it lock ups? Is that a lie? App crashes? Is that a lie?How about random reboots? I could go and mention a host of other things but there is no point.
So don't quote me with baseless rhetoric.
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You know, apologies are in order. I think I completely got you confused with someone else.
Anyhow, my bad. At the same time, my experience with WP8 that I posted doesn't change. I'm loving this OS so far! :good:
A ton of folks are, enjoy it. Don't take this stuff seriously, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
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Insane data use

Hello, I'm having problems with the amount of data used on the one. For me normal is around 20mb a day on 3g use. Now I have this..
How is this possible? Is there something wrong? I only have 1gb data and from the first of June to the fifth I have used 250mb..
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Only thing I can think of is blinkfeed. Do you have autosync on?
Youtube and streaming music takes up a lot as well.
Only on wifi..
Is it possible to have so much data use just by checking software update? I did that a couple times..
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Have you got any auto photo backup services switched on system, dropbox, googke+ etc? If you take Zoes on this device you get all the jpegs and the videoclip uploaded which can be a huge amount of data
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No, I haven't.
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Just today it used 87 mb.. Could it be weather related? My htc clock refreshes every 6 hours, but for the blinkfeed weather you have to turn on sonrthing in location settings. Turned that of now. But it seems very strange to me. Is it not possible that I did it myself because I checked the software updates a couple times? Then I at least now where the problem's coming from.
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Anyone that can help me?
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Anyone that can help me?
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Get 3G watchdog so you can see what each individual app uses.
check with your provider to see if it matches. the phone could be reporting inaccurately.
Watchdog can't help me on this one.
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the first night I had my phone i streamed a 2 minute song and data usage said it was 20mb..i knew that was wrong and it didn't match what at&t said i used. check with your provider...
So Vodafone site says I used 148 MB. Like wth?
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I am having a heavy data usage problem as well. I use my phone to listen to music on my motorcycle, streaming GMusic.
My buddy has a Note II, I have the one. We both streamed music from Gmusic all day, same amount of time. Both of us have "high quality" turned off (unchecked).
At the end of the day he had used 100MB, I had used 873MB!! (reported as being used just by Gmusic). Both phones are on the same account so I login to AT&T to check data usage thinking it had to be a flaw. Nope I've used .9gb his phone says .1gb. WTF?
I still haven't figured it out and have used most of my 3GB in one weekend. Suckage.
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I am having a heavy data usage problem as well. I use my phone to listen to music on my motorcycle, streaming GMusic.
My buddy has a Note II, I have the one. We both streamed music from Gmusic all day, same amount of time. Both of us have "high quality" turned off (unchecked).
At the end of the day he had used 100MB, I had used 873MB!! (reported as being used just by Gmusic). Both phones are on the same account so I login to AT&T to check data usage thinking it had to be a flaw. Nope I've used .9gb his phone says .1gb. WTF?
I still haven't figured it out and have used most of my 3GB in one weekend. Suckage.
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I know how you feel.. I'm quite confused.
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Why don't you take a look at Settings>Usage to see which apps are actually using your data?
As I said, Android OS is using this. No further details in there
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I've had similar things happen with a couple of HTC's, not Ones. I only worked out how to stop through trail and error and I still don't understand why it happened. What I discovered was that the Mail accounts were constantly eating into my data (140Mb + one day but only 3 short emails actually received into the mailbox). The way I resolved it was to delete the Mail accounts (POP or IMAP, whatever) and then add it as new. This seemed to solve the problem. Never worked out why it was doing it in the first place mind.
The OP says its Android OS, which it could be. But there would be no harm in trying to disable/change apps and accounts to see if makes a difference. And if not methodically you should be any to ID the problem. Fingers crossed.

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I'm calling it. Google is not ever going to open Chromecast to development and it will never be more than a limited dongle to stream a few (mostly) paid services. They may finish an SDK but they will never remove the white list. Google has moved on to luxury barges and product tie ins with candy bars. Chromecast is an even bigger failure than Nexus Q. Google may have sold lots of Chromecasts but they have gone out of their way to make the device of only very limited utility and the 3rd party apps they have added have been so few and so limited.
I don't think I'm going to be buying any more Google multimedia devices. I feel like a real sucker for buying this one.
Dude it's $35. Want some cheese with that?
I think you are wrong on this, browse on phone play on TV is great.
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I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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Woah, calm down. It's not even half a year old yet.
Google is slowly but surely allowing apps to have Chromecast support.
Hulu now has Chromecast support and just recently Pandora.
While I don't really see the whole logic behind them approving apps it's really not that big of a deal.
I can see Chromecast having a good life in the future. It's definitely not a Nexus Q failure.
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I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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If you want your mfg to control what apps you can use and who gets to develop for them, then go swap to apple.
It would be one thing if there was even an approval process, but there isn't, just backroom deals between big companies.
When I buy google it's because I want the freedom to do what I want with my device.
That said I'm giving them til the end of the year before I declare their "SDK" dead, but I am starting to agree with the OP.
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If you want your mfg to control what apps you can use and who gets to develop for them, then go swap to apple.
It would be one thing if there was even an approval process, but there isn't, just backroom deals between big companies.
When I buy google it's because I want the freedom to do what I want with my device.
That said I'm giving them til the end of the year before I declare their "SDK" dead, but I am starting to agree with the OP.
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Google never promised you any thing with the Chromecast. You just let your imagination get the better if you. Like others said. What did you expect for $35.
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Cuzz1369 said:
Google never promised you any thing with the Chromecast. You just let your imagination get the better if you. Like others said. What did you expect for $35.
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I expect that when they publish a "Beta" SDK, that states "You're CC needs to be Whitelisted while in Beta", that within a reasonable period of time, the whitelist requirement will be lifted and the SDK will come out of Beta and they will publish a "here's the process to publish your app"
When Google(or really anyone) releases a Beta SDK Developers are going begin spending their valuable time coding solutions for that platform, expecting someday they will be able to release their product.
So far they're just wasting developers time.
This has nothing to do with how much my chromecast cost, it's about misleading developers.
You buy a product for what it does. Not what you think it could/should/will do. Its called "Chromecast" and that's exactly what it does, casts chrome to my TV, beautify.
I understand your frustration, but I knew when I bought it what it was and did, and even though I wanted more, didn't expect it for the price
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inthepit said:
I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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I agree with you that it would be nice to have apps that Google has tested for quality, but that does not require a white list. The could offer a tested & certified classification. But locking out everyone else is just rude. The market is pretty good at self regulating. And I'd be glad to see 100 apps that do the same thing. Chances are better I can find one I like. The more competition, the better the quality of the standouts in the long run. Locking the device down is both lazy and greedy.
Galaxy S4, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7
I would have to agree. This thing is DOA! Had potential but by the time Google gets off their butts something else better will be out to take its place. Too bad. Thank goodness it was only $35.
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I'm disappointed too, and I agree that we will probably NEVER see any 3rd party independent apps for the chromecast. We'll just get the few services that Google throws to us. I imagine they'll still add things in the future from time to time though.
For $35 I am still happy with the device. I was tired of using my Blu-Ray player's clunky UI to watch Netflix or Youtube videos. Being able to initiate and perform everything via smartphone is amazing. I do think the Play Music could be better implemented...I don't expect most people to understand that you have to upload your music to Play and then download it onto your phone through the app, rather than sideloading. But I guess that's just a product of the DIAL standard.
We all expected 'freedom' but Google never actually said this thing would be open source.
They are a business, not a charity. They probably have their reasons for being so restrictive.
Still it's early to tell what will happen. Allowing plex would solve most of my problems, personally.
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For me Chromecast has been awesome. With Pandora it just got tons better. Because I use Amazon prime as my tv source, if they release prime app I'll buy another one for my bedroom asap. If Netflix or hulu was what I use I would have already bought another.
You can use splashtop to cast browser tabs on your computer from your phone and use hulu for free.
Best $35 I've spent I'm a long time.
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Best $35 I've spent I'm a long time.
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That makes 2 of us lol Matter of fact I spent more last night on margaritas and all I got out of that was a little hangover this morning.
I've found that my CC streams Hulu better than either my blu-ray player or my LG 'smart' TV. I also use Netflix, Pandora and Google Music and am happy with them all on the CC; Plex would be icing on the cake. Plus the kids like being able to select their shows from the tablet vs the remote.
I can understand the devs not being happy though.
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Woah, calm down. It's not even half a year old yet.
Google is slowly but surely allowing apps to have Chromecast support.
Hulu now has Chromecast support and just recently Pandora.
While I don't really see the whole logic behind them approving apps it's really not that big of a deal.
I can see Chromecast having a good life in the future. It's definitely not a Nexus Q failure.
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That's what I was told about Google TV. I'm still waiting.
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rbeavers said:
That's what I was told about Google TV. I'm still waiting.
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Yeah me too, but at least as a developer I can write and distribute code for GTV, as pathetic as it is.
I use my Chromecast every day, most times about 3-4hrs a day on multiple TV's
I have 4 Apple loving friends who own one and prefer it for Hulu, Netflix and YouTube over their Apple TV boxes.
People who won't touch Google or Android or are still using IE use it. Google has become a name in the living room by selling a "foot in the door" device at a bargain/loss.... and they are succeeding
Some failure........
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Yeah me too, but at least as a developer I can write and distribute code for GTV, as pathetic as it is.
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Yea, I can't do a thing with out root on the GTV.
It's nice we can at least cast a chrome tab.
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It's only been a little over 4 months, so it's not quite dead yet, but it's beginning to look like Google's second failure in the TV market. So far the biggest news has been Google crushing attempts to make it more useful.
I think Google's problem is that they have no clue what they want to do in the TV market. They're dabbling because they think they should, but they don't want to commit to anything.
Personally I already replaced mine with a Roku, which cost only a few dollars more and is way better. I think the Chromecast will be going to somebody else for Christmas.

Can someone explain why you would want to ROOT a CC?

Can someone explain to me why I would want to ROOT my Chromecast units? I have two of them that I just bought today. I'm about to get the Moto Nexus 6 too when AT&T figures there crap out. Just wondering if ROOT'ing my CC's will be of any benifit?
Really all I'm going to do it cast Youtube and Plex from my phone so maybe this doesn't apply to me. I've already put both of my two new CC's online but for $35.00 dollars IF it offers me anything, I can buy more.
Thanks!
Because the only way to use an app on it is by registering with Google. Until you give Google money, you cannot develop or test anything.
Fun fact.
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The majority of users will never need root.....
Custom Whitelisting - You might be able to get some features before Google officially supports them (Screen Casting is one example of something you could get while rooted before Google officially supported it) By the same token because Rooted users are for a short time behind Google on the latest version (as they get released) you might have to wait for some new features until Team Eureka makes their version of the update.
Custom DNS But the most notable reason for wanting Root is the ability to set custom DNS so you can get around regional restrictions on content.
ie Living in the UK but wanting to watch content from USA Netflix.
But if all you plan to do is Netflix and Plex there probably is no compelling reason to be rooted....
At least this week...Who knows what Next week brings! LOL
Thanks for the explanation guys! Sounds like I do not need ROOT at this point then.
I honestly would have probably not bought these Chromecasts but we ordered something like 450 of them at work and put them into all of our classrooms and since I'll be supporting them officially, I thought I should buy one. This thing is so bad ass, I went back for a second CC unit the same day. They work SO well. Much nicer than the Apple TV's we had in our classrooms. I like how these are not limited to what is on them so much and basically there is a way to cast anything to them in one or another.
Wish had gotten these earlier! Between these using Netflix and Plex Media Server with my collection of movies from the past 10 years, I might just shut off the Cable TV. The ONLY thing I ever use the Cable TV for is watching Pawn Stars on Demand. I have 130Mbps internet cable link, what do I need Cable TV for honestly!
Thanks again!
right ive only get about 60Mbps hmm hmm only about 60Mbps wow anyone else fell old when u know what 56kbps modem looks like still anyway yeah fast net Netflix other sites chromecast cable who?
For all new Chromecast owners....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=goko.gcs
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right ive only get about 60Mbps hmm hmm only about 60Mbps wow anyone else fell old when u know what 56kbps modem looks like still anyway yeah fast net Netflix other sites chromecast cable who?
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I got sent a video on Facebook recently, talking about how our children will never know what real panic is. As you wait for the "WELCOME, YOUVE GOT MAIL!" on your AOL connection
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techdeisel said:
right ive only get about 60Mbps hmm hmm only about 60Mbps wow anyone else fell old when u know what 56kbps modem looks like still anyway yeah fast net Netflix other sites chromecast cable who?
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NexusGazer said:
I got sent a video on Facebook recently, talking about how our children will never know what real panic is. As you wait for the "WELCOME, YOUVE GOT MAIL!" on your AOL connection
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You two Younguns....
I remember when Modem speed was measured in BAUD and you had to use an Acoustic Coupler!!!!! LOL
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You two Younguns....
I remember when Modem speed was measured in BAUD and you had to use an Acoustic Coupler!!!!! LOL
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How old are you? 75? Never knew that until now..
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How old are you? 75? Never knew that until now..
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extrem0 said:
How old are you? 75? Never knew that until now..
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We're OT, but Wargames. The one with Matthew Broderick, not the sequel (though I did enjoy that as well). Watch it. Acoustic coupler. Covox Speech Thing. No fancy graphics. No Matrix tap-tap-tap-I'm in! Yup, that was life.
Back OT... Wargames, that's why you want root. Why? Because you're curious. Because you can. Because it's way cheaper than destroying a $400 piece of equipment because you wanted to see if you could ____. Because you want to cast Wargames to your TV that has nearly 3 times the resolution of our old tube TVs...
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You two Younguns....
I remember when Modem speed was measured in BAUD and you had to use an Acoustic Coupler!!!!! LOL
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Yeah, I had to go look that one up too. Holy crap.
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You two Younguns....
I remember when Modem speed was measured in BAUD and you had to use an Acoustic Coupler!!!!! LOL
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I remember some of those stories when I was younger, when I would ***** about the 56K modem, and making sure my dad was off the phone before Doom deathmatches.... Why his network engineering degree and Linux involvement didn't turn into a fascination with all things Android, I'll never know.
We had a dedicated line for dialup internet. No inbound calls on it. The computer was set to a 1 minute delay for when the provider booted our connection. Each month was billed at a minimum of 400 connected hours. I managed to hit 700 connected hours once.
I am also curious if I should root or not... everything revolving around my phones need root to do everything I prefer and would just root this.... except I don't have the hardware needed to root it..... so would have to buy the hardware and have no other use for the hardware except to root this.... I live in the US so don't need to try and get around region locks... As far goes functionality and apps... do I gain anything except a custom white list and a little more control over my device? Specifically I wonder about apps... I know in the rooted world some apps are just not possible without it.... so don't want to get stuck missing out on great apps. I know there have been threads about this in the past but I am interested in an updated answer since the environment is constantly changing.

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