usb connection always charge the phone!! - HTC Desire C

can someone have solution to stop charge the phone while connect the phone to computer via usb cable

ngvhoang96 said:
can someone have solution to stop charge the phone while connect the phone to computer via usb cable
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There's a setting under storage to disable it.

Genuinely asking you.. Why do you want to stop it charging??

TeeJay!! said:
Genuinely asking you.. Why do you want to stop it charging??
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i think it will decrease the battery life

soupmagnet said:
There's a setting under storage to disable it.
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i have tried a lots, but no effect

ngvhoang96 said:
i have tried a lots, but no effect
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It wont decrease battery life.
The only way the battery could be hindered via charging is if you do it for extended periods of time.
For example more than 10 hours isnt good.

me4488 said:
It wont decrease battery life.
The only way the battery could be hindered via charging is if you do it for extended periods of time.
For example more than 10 hours isnt good.
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Thanks for clearing that. So we can charge our phone whenever we want to but be careful not to charge for too long at a stretch. Is it correct?

Yes
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aashay960 said:
Thanks for clearing that. So we can charge our phone whenever we want to but be careful not to charge for too long at a stretch. Is it correct?
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Yeah. I've read up on this stuff. More than 10 hours is called Overcharging. It's unhealthy for the battery and for the phone itself
The normal charge is just plugging it at any time and plug it out at any time.
And then there is healthy charge. You need to do this once a month or two.
Let the battery fall below 20-15 percent and then charge it up all the way to 100.
Also keeping it plugged in at 100% isn't recommended because we don't have smart charge (which basicly cuts of the power from the charger to the motherboard at 100% to prevent wear and tear like in some new high end devices)
Hope you find this interesting :3

Thank you. I will do some research on this myself too..

Maybe add it to the get started guide? ;3

so charge for a short time doesn't decrease the battery?
ex: charge from 30% to 50% is not wrong?

ngvhoang96 said:
so charge for a short time doesn't decrease the battery?
ex: charge from 30% to 50% is not wrong?
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No it is not. Only older batteries had this problem. Nowdays its cool to do that.

me4488 said:
It wont decrease battery life.
The only way the battery could be hindered via charging is if you do it for extended periods of time.
For example more than 10 hours isnt good.
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Damn, i leave my phone charging all night
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noahvt said:
Damn, i leave my phone charging all night
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If you sleep less than 10 hours than its good. I do that when I go to school.
More than 10 is not healthy.

this becomes a problem esp if u use usb tethering

Modern firmware stops charging the phone when it's full, drains it a bit, and then will not send any juice to the battery anymore- it's pretty much impossible to overcharge unless you've corrupted or hacked out that bit of the firmware or you're overamping to begin with- or the phone and its firmware are poorly designed or executed.
This is also why your phone drops from 100 to 95% so fast when you start using it- it wasn't at 100% when it stopped charging; the firmware lies to you so you don't get mad and try to overcharge and destroy your battery or call customer service because it won't go above ~98%

Well then, I've had this phone for over a year and always charge it over the night (way over 10hours :I)
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How bad is overcharging?

Exactly how much worse would my battery get if I keep it plugged in the whole night(6~8hours)?
I tried to use my phone where I'll have it fully charged when I go to sleep so I plug it out. But sometimes my battery is at about 30% so I just charge it overnight.
How bad is this? Should I stop doing this?
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the charging system WONT overcharge your battery.
it charges to 100%
turns off lets the phone use battery power to 95%
then charges again.
there is NO PHONE, NO CHARGER that would over charge its battery, that would just be self destruction.
Sweet, always wondered about that
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Trusselo said:
the charging system WONT overcharge your battery.
it charges to 100%
turns off lets the phone use battery power to 95%
then charges again.
there is NO PHONE, NO CHARGER that would over charge its battery, that would just be self destruction.
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Really? So it doesn't matter?
Anyone thanks
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While it is impossible to overcharge your batter...not even sure what that means but the battery can not hold more charge then it is made to hold.
The only downside to leaving the phone on the charger overnight is that it will over time degrade the capacity of the battery. The way most modern phone batteries function they gradually loose capacity over time. This lose of capacity is accelerated the when the battery is at a greater charge level.
crystalhand said:
While it is impossible to overcharge your batter...not even sure what that means but the battery can not hold more charge then it is made to hold.
The only downside to leaving the phone on the charger overnight is that it will over time degrade the capacity of the battery. The way most modern phone batteries function they gradually loose capacity over time. This lose of capacity is accelerated the when the battery is at a greater charge level.
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I'm sorry..
My overcharging meant that I charge it for a long time.... sorry about that
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Like Trusselo said, you can't overcharge it. There's a smart charger built in, that charges full and drops it back to extend battery life.
If you watch the supply with an ammeter, you'll see the current slowly decrease as it gets closer to full. Then when the "Battery is Full" notification appears, the current will immediately drop to 0 indicating that the charger has completed and it's running on battery. At that point it resets the stats to 100%. After it consumes about 5% (actually something like 4100mV) it will switch back to external power and only monitor the battery.
Oh strange. Nexus one does it different. When fully charged it runs off the AC current if still plugged in and battery remains charged
CuriousTech said:
Like Trusselo said, you can't overcharge it. There's a smart charger built in, that charges full and drops it back to extend battery life.
If you watch the supply with an ammeter, you'll see the current slowly decrease as it gets closer to full. Then when the "Battery is Full" notification appears, the current will immediately drop to 0 indicating that the charger has completed and it's running on battery. At that point it resets the stats to 100%. After it consumes about 5% (actually something like 4100mV) it will switch back to external power and only monitor the battery.
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So conclusion is
Charging it overnight will decrease my battery life so I shouldn't do it?
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syl0n said:
Oh strange. Nexus one does it different. When fully charged it runs off the AC current if still plugged in and battery remains charged
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Interesting since that would be bad for the battery. What are your methods for determining this?
bluemoon1221 said:
So conclusion is
Charging it overnight will decrease my battery life so I shouldn't do it?
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No. It's not charging overnight. The phone stops charging when it's full.
Sigh...
To get a better understanding of why your phone will never overcharge the battery go to youtube and type in "overcharging li-ion" or better "overcharging lipo" for some entertaining videos.
CuriousTech said:
No. It's not charging overnight. The phone stops charging when it's full.
Sigh...
To get a better understanding of why your phone will never overcharge the battery go to youtube and type in "overcharging li-ion" or better "overcharging lipo" for some entertaining videos.
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That's what I meant.... I'm saying will keeping it plugged in for 7 hours decrease my battery performance? .......
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Okay then. I know these are lead, mercury and cadmium free but it might be too late.
You should do what gives you peace of mind, and be sure to read and follow all safety precautions for the products you own.
bluemoon1221 said:
That's what I meant.... I'm saying will keeping it plugged in for 7 hours decrease my battery performance? .......
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
everyone is trying to tell you NO!!
keeping it charging over night will do NO dammage and will not hurt performance.
I've always wondered about this.. thanks!
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Trusselo said:
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
everyone is trying to tell you NO!!
keeping it charging over night will do NO dammage and will not hurt performance.
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Up in one of the reply by crystalhand
He said that it will degrade the capacity of the battery.??
Am I interpreting this the wrong way? Or is he wrong?
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Battery life

I bought an Incredible S a while ago and have been exploring ROMs and installing them. I am now on IceColdSandwich and currently satisfied with it. The only problem is the battery life, I fully charge it, take it out of charge, roam through home screens and I have 95% battery. I tried updating the radio to .24 one (built for Ice Cream Sandwich). So I was wondering if there was something I was missing or if there was a fix for this. Any help in this regard would be highly appretiated.
Thanks.
is it 2nd hand incredible s?
when you fully charged, did you leave it connected to the charger for a while?
one thing you might want to try is to turn off the inc s when it finishes charging... and plug it to charger again.
it will start charging again in case it's actually not full...
otherwise: do a battery calibration
lagu805 said:
is it 2nd hand incredible s?
when you fully charged, did you leave it connected to the charger for a while?
one thing you might want to try is to turn off the inc s when it finishes charging... and plug it to charger again.
it will start charging again in case it's actually not full...
otherwise: do a battery calibration
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- Yes.
- Yes.
Battery calibration, what's that?
sCell_ said:
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Battery calibration, what's that?
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There's an app for that in the Play Store. Search for it and use it.
Does calibration really work?
sirpellinor said:
Does calibration really work?
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depends what you mean by calibration. deleting the battery stats file does nothing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443108
GoldenSands said:
I have not used one before, but my brother-in-low is using MS Voice Command and he is very happy with it.
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And that's probably what all those apps will do.
And the reason for why your battery drops from 100% really quickly is because HTC made it that way. When you charge it'll charge to 100%, then stop charging until it has dropped to x% and start charging to 100% again. Repeat that until you remove the charger.
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[Q] Charging limit.

I have not seen anyone posted about this so I'm raising one. Is there any kernel/app that has charging limit feature? What I meant about charging limit is when the battery reach a certain % i.e 60%, it will stop charging the battery and will only supply current to keep the phone going. There are quite a few laptops came with this feature like Sony and Lenovo. The purpose of this? To prolong the battery's life. You can read more about this here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
um i dont think so
idk abt any such kernels but definitely no such apps. But sammy says a full charge cycle from around 5 to 100% would help a lot.
70pride said:
I have not seen anyone posted about this so I'm raising one. Is there any kernel/app that has charging limit feature? What I meant about charging limit is when the battery reach a certain % i.e 60%, it will stop charging the battery and will only supply current to keep the phone going. There are quite a few laptops came with this feature like Sony and Lenovo. The purpose of this? To prolong the battery's life. You can read more about this here http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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I know its not really a solution, but I do have an idea for you.
Get a digital outlet timer... figure out how long it takes to charge your note...(i.e., lets say 4 hours full charge)
set a pre-programed time cycle. when you plug the phone in, run the time cycle, and it will shut off when done...
Just an idea... maybe not a good one, but it just popped into my head
asf58967 said:
I know its not really a solution, but I do have an idea for you.
Get a digital outlet timer... figure out how long it takes to charge your note...(i.e., lets say 4 hours full charge)
set a pre-programed time cycle. when you plug the phone in, run the time cycle, and it will shut off when done...
Just an idea... maybe not a good one, but it just popped into my head
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Didn't thought of that. Not really innovative , but still gets the job done.
70pride said:
Didn't thought of that. Not really innovative , but still gets the job done.
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I didn't realize I claimed it to be some amazingly innovative idea... How about just saying thanks for the input instead of insulting me
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The only solution i've found to this is to simply connect your phone to an usb charger... then run: shutdown -s -f -t 3600

Charging battery

I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Yes, you will be fine. I cant even run my phone out anymore.
Charge away!
mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.
The first 2 days after I got my phone my battery was dying pretty fast but now that I've had it for a week it's lasting much much longer now.
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sauprankul said:
Au contraire, mon frere. Keep your phone as charged as possible. IF YOU LET YOUR PHONE DIE, IT WILL LOSE CAPACITY. That's all there is to it. Charge it as much as possible, except if the battery is hot. If so, reboot, and let it cool for 5 mins, then charge it.
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Not entirely true. Try to avoid the high end of the charge scale if you can, because then you're banking entirely on the assumption that the onboard controller will correctly charge-cycle the battery from the 95%-100% states. I just don't trust the onbaord that much.
mlese92 said:
I've been wondering this for a while but can't find much on the web. I was wondering if charging my battery when it's not completely dead will ruin battery efficiency? If for instance my phone is 30% and I'm going to need it for the night is it fine to charge it without the worry of damaging the battery. I'd assume our phones are advanced enough it wouldnt matter but figured I'd ask
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No. That used to be a problem with older batteries (where it was known as the memory effect), but current-generation Lithium-ion batteries only suffer from this to an essentially unnoticeable extent. If you drop the battery below 10% or so too often (a deep discharge), you can prematurely erode your capacity. It's a good idea to do this once a month or so to keep things running smoothly, but other than that there's no problem with charging/discharging whenever (outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).
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(outside of force of habit and pride-- you can't boast about long battery life if you're charging often, after all).
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I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.
sauprankul said:
I STILL don't get it. How one earth does anybody get decent battery life on this phone, let alone those RIDICULOUS 5 hour screen times? I'm assuming there's no way without rooting, though. I can barely get 2 hours of screen time. And my power saver is always enabled!
Appx 35% of my battery is consumed by kernel. About 20% by the OS.
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I can just speak for myself. I root my phones before I use them so I have no idea how much better it is.
These guys who make the roms do some amazing stuff and take out a lot of crap to make our phones run better and faster. In that process, the battery life really improves.

Note 8 battery discharges insanely fast on every other charge

I have been want to replace my Note 8 for a while, but decided not to because it would work well every other charge cycle. On days when it's working well, it's decharging at around .8% per hour on idle. But every other time I fully charge it, it'll do this weird thing where it drains at 3%+ per hour on idle. I don't know what to do or what the problem is. There isn't a difference in app usage. Does the fact that I completely discharged the battery on the first day have an affect on how it is now?
I use mine heavily at work, music, messaging, browsing, calls and I get around 12-14hrs out of a charge.
me_ashman said:
I use mine heavily at work, music, messaging, browsing, calls and I get around 12-14hrs out of a charge.
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That's not my problem. My problem is that it will work really well, but after I charge it, it'll go to complete crap. I'm not sure what triggers this.
Have you tried factory resetting the phone?
me_ashman said:
Have you tried factory resetting the phone?
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Yes, I've done this like three times. It will work well sometimes until I charge it. Then it will randomly have completely terrible idle time. I think the battery drain outside of idle is actually not bad either, but something makes it drain a lot for some reason. I've noticed it usually happens after I charge my phone.
CalvinL said:
Yes, I've done this like three times. It will work well sometimes until I charge it. Then it will randomly have completely terrible idle time. I think the battery drain outside of idle is actually not bad either, but something makes it drain a lot for some reason. I've noticed it usually happens after I charge my phone.
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There isn't a tip someone can give you to fix your obviously defective phone other than to start the warranty process.
This phone costs too much money for me to **** with. If it so much as hiccups, it's going back.
douger1957 said:
There isn't a tip someone can give you to fix your obviously defective phone other than to start the warranty process.
This phone costs too much money for me to **** with. If it so much as hiccups, it's going back.
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I was just wondering if there was something I was missing that was causing this. It was draining really fast on idle last night, but the fast discharge stopped around the time 60-70%. I charged it this morning and it hasn't even dropped 1% in the last 1 and a half.
OP try not using the fast charge options and see what happens.
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OP try not using the fast charge options and see what happens.
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I did try both, but it didn't seem to make a difference. I can't seem to figure out what's making it drain so fast. Right now, it's back to normal. But even when it's draining fast on idle, it's battery life will still be good in actual use.
CalvinL said:
I did try both, but it didn't seem to make a difference. I can't seem to figure out what's making it drain so fast. Right now, it's back to normal. But even when it's draining fast on idle, it's battery life will still be good in actual use.
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Try slow charging all the time and also remove SD card if you have one. Also, when slow charging , when it hits 100% power off device, then pull charger out and then back in with device still off, it might read 98% then let it charge to 100% again.
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Limeybastard said:
Try slow charging all the time and also remove SD card if you have one. Also, when slow charging , when it hits 100% power off device, then pull charger out and then back in with device still off, it might read 98% then let it charge to 100% again.
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I'll try that. I usually let it charge to 100% and then wait another 30 minutes.
But why remove the SD card?
I am also facing this problem of the battery draining too fast, especially when compared to my previous phone, the S8 Plus (and similar usage on both phones).
Battery usage data does not show any rogue app gobbling up the battery. So not sure what is going on here. Perhaps I have got a faulty device...
CalvinL said:
I'll try that. I usually let it charge to 100% and then wait another 30 minutes.
But why remove the SD card?
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Just an idea. Using method of elimination [emoji4]
When it reaches 100% remove charging cable and power off device then re insert power cord with device off.
I personally never use fast charging.
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Limeybastard said:
Just an idea. Using method of elimination [emoji4]
When it reaches 100% remove charging cable and power off device then re insert power cord with device off.
I personally never use fast charging.
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I try not to use fast charging as much, but it seems the problems is still here and really random.
Going to Samsung area of Best Buy tomorrow. If they can't fix it, then I'm going to Costco for an exchange.
Got a new phone. It's draining fast too. Is there a way to identify what app is making it drain so fast?
I want to specify that the battery life when actually using it is great. I was watching netflix for over 2 hours and it drained like 15%.

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