Chromecast on public wifi networks? - Google Chromecast

I bought a Chromecast yesterday, and I'm going to be headed off to college in a few weeks, and I am really hoping Chromecast has some protection against random intruders. Because I'm bringing a small HDTV with me, and I'll be using my school's public wifi network. Anyone else have any thoughts?

alex94kumar said:
I bought a Chromecast yesterday, and I'm going to be headed off to college in a few weeks, and I am really hoping Chromecast has some protection against random intruders. Because I'm bringing a small HDTV with me, and I'll be using my school's public wifi network. Anyone else have any thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does your dorm/apartment room have a wired ethernet connection as well? You could probably buy a cheap router and set a small private wireless lan.
I never lived in the dorms when I went to school but my ex girlfriend did and this is what I did for her.

brooksyx said:
Does your dorm/apartment room have a wired ethernet connection as well? You could probably buy a cheap router and set a small private wireless lan.
I never lived in the dorms when I went to school but my ex girlfriend did and this is what I did for her.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah! I never thought of this! While this will definitely work for me, I worry about other consumers who buy Chromecast who won't have access to ethernet/a router

alex94kumar said:
Ah! I never thought of this! While this will definitely work for me, I worry about other consumers who buy Chromecast who won't have access to ethernet/a router
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no protection or security unfortunately - this is something that Google really needs to address.

Yeah, even if it's just a 3 or 4 digit pin, i'd be perfectly fine with that

J33per said:
There is no protection or security unfortunately - this is something that Google really needs to address.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What security risks do you guys expect?

Echodawg said:
What security risks do you guys expect?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will have this device in a dorm room at college, on the school's wifi network
Anyone with the Chromecast app and is near me could hijack my TV

alex94kumar said:
I will have this device in a dorm room at college, on the school's wifi network
Anyone with the Chromecast app and is near me could hijack my TV
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahh, I see.
I thought you were worried about hacking through the GCast to your phone or comp.
I haven't gotten mine yet but I would assume it works through google services and you would sign in with your google account or a pin would pop up on the TV to link the two.

I really hope that Google does an update soon that adds some kind of basic security. As others have said, a simple four digit code that is displayed on the TV that you need to type into your device would be fine.

Mr. Steve said:
I really hope that Google does an update soon that adds some kind of basic security. As others have said, a simple four digit code that is displayed on the TV that you need to type into your device would be fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wholeheartedly agree

It would work as long as
1. The network admin of your school didn't shutdown the port its running on (which is most likely)
2. Your college doesn't have a sign in page after you log in

Echodawg said:
Ahh, I see.
I thought you were worried about hacking through the GCast to your phone or comp.
I haven't gotten mine yet but I would assume it works through google services and you would sign in with your google account or a pin would pop up on the TV to link the two.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no security, no login, nothing. If you are on the same network as a Chromecast, it will show up in the extension or apps and you would be able to take over the screen.

typ_ex said:
It would work as long as
1. The network admin of your school didn't shutdown the port its running on (which is most likely)
2. Your college doesn't have a sign in page after you log in
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.

xnatex21 said:
Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can try to hide the SSID from being broadcasted by the router

xnatex21 said:
Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My daughter lived in the dorms at San Jose State. The first thing we did every fall was add a wifi router to the LAN in her room. There was never an issue.
Another daughter went to Loyola Marymount. Same thing there.

xnatex21 said:
Not to mention, the school probably has a policy against unauthorized wireless networks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would a school have a policy against additional wifi networks in living quarters and also how would they police that??
I went to a state college of 20,000 students, no way they can stop that. Not that they would.
-----
Also I doubt that if you link up to the schools wifi and try to connect to your chromecast it won't work. Wifi networks like that have many ports and features blocked to prevent you from connecting to other peoples computers/etc who don't have any security settings enabled. Sadly this will most likey stop you from being able to do not shady network stuff yourself. Best bet is set up your own local lan.

My college would find the wireless routers sending signals and search that building for them. It was a pain to deal with. Good luck.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

set up a wireless network from your laptop;
www.connectify.me
and use your laptop as a router

Chromecast may not work on Public Wifi
alex94kumar said:
I bought a Chromecast yesterday, and I'm going to be headed off to college in a few weeks, and I am really hoping Chromecast has some protection against random intruders. Because I'm bringing a small HDTV with me, and I'll be using my school's public wifi network. Anyone else have any thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You may not be able to use it on the schools public wifi network without setting up your own access point.
It's a bit tricky to explain, and this is something could be addressed in a future update, but....
Many public wifi networks allow you to connect without a password to the network - and then they limit your access until you click a button to agree to a terms of service. Currently the Chromecast will connect to the network but it appears there is no way for it to 'click the accept button'.
A similar thing happens at many commercial places, like starbucks or macdonalds, where they offer free wifi.
Google tech support says the Chromecast was not designed to be used on public networks.
I do hope it does work out for you, and if it does not, that Google offers an update to resolve this sometime.

brooksyx said:
Why would a school have a policy against additional wifi networks in living quarters and also how would they police that??
I went to a state college of 20,000 students, no way they can stop that. Not that they would.
-----
Also I doubt that if you link up to the schools wifi and try to connect to your chromecast it won't work. Wifi networks like that have many ports and features blocked to prevent you from connecting to other peoples computers/etc who don't have any security settings enabled. Sadly this will most likey stop you from being able to do not shady network stuff yourself. Best bet is set up your own local lan.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's quite simple actually. There are only 3 non-overlapping 2.4GHz channels and in order to cover a whole college dorm, they need all 3 channels. Any additional APs will DESTROY coverage for the surrounding rooms. If students knew how much their neighbors were killing their wifi, they would hate each other.
I work at a university of about 8,000 students and we have an intern go through the logs on our wireless controllers about once a week, make his rounds with nice little notes that explain the school's policy about personal APs and inform students of the $100 fines for not removing it. Sound pretty controlling? Absolutely! But I've done extensive tests, as have our sister schoolers, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that having individual APs wrecks the wireless for everyone that isn't in the same room as the Ap.
And to the OP: Chromecast will not work on your school's wifi. Did some testing this morning, and it requires P2P over wireless, which no sane network admin would have enabled.

Related

some smug jerk with an iphone is leaching off my wireless tether

So I'm sitting at a cafe right now and since they do not have wifi, I am tethering via Barnicle wifi tether. all is well and peachy until this smug fatty walked in with his iphone and connected onto my wifi. so being uncharacteristically selfish i stopped the connection. only to find that I cannot boot him solely if i reconnect. Is there an option in another app to do this? I am not paying for a data plan so that some freeloading iphone toting jag can download his twitter feeds
Why don't you just setup wep security?
youngalumni said:
So I'm sitting at a cafe right now and since they do not have wifi, I am tethering via Barnicle wifi tether. all is well and peachy until this smug fatty walked in with his iphone and connected onto my wifi. so being uncharacteristically selfish i stopped the connection. only to find that I cannot boot him solely if i reconnect. Is there an option in another app to do this? I am not paying for a data plan so that some freeloading iphone toting jag can download his twitter feeds
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Wireless Tether for Root users" (which is built into many of the aftermarket ROMs) implements mac address filtering as a form of access control. That would do the trick... just connect your laptop, and then turn on access control and bless your laptops mac address. Once you do that only devices with that mac address (which is supposed to be unique... mac addresses are spoofable but the person would have to know your mac address to do it) can connect.
excellent I will set that up then. I tried placing wpa security on the connection but the keys i tried were not accepted i think it may be an issue with the app considering it was within the boundaries of what was required
youngalumni said:
excellent I will set that up then. I tried placing wpa security on the connection but the keys i tried were not accepted i think it may be an issue with the app considering it was within the boundaries of what was required
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wireless tether for root users must have a 13 character long password.
bjtheone said:
"Wireless Tether for Root users" (which is built into many of the aftermarket ROMs) implements mac address filtering as a form of access control. That would do the trick... just connect your laptop, and then turn on access control and bless your laptops mac address. Once you do that only devices with that mac address (which is supposed to be unique... mac addresses are spoofable but the person would have to know your mac address to do it) can connect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I 2nd this app...awesome app. I went to Vegas, wanted to use my own network instead of a hotel's wifi..turned on mac filtering with only my own laptop allowed.
Easy to add/block devices too, when a device tries to connect, the app will let you know.
This is the perfect app for tethering on google phones, imo.
Haha pwned by an iPhone. You shame us all sir. J/k
I turn on WEP password and MAC filtering with android-wifi-tether. My ssid is "iphonessuck".
Mac filtering is pointless. Heaps of iPhone apps will tell you macs of devices connecting to a network. Jailbroken iPhones can spoof mac at a tap of an icon.
-------------------------------------
Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App
BrandonG777 said:
Haha pwned by an iPhone. You shame us all sir. J/k
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im not kidding
omg that really sux
what an a-hole
prolly doesn't know any better
I have an idea that in my own opinion is better than any of the previously mentioned replies.
Simply use a wired tether connection.
Instead of using a wireless tether connection with wifi or bluetooth which will quickly drain the battery of your phone, a wired tether will simultaneously charge your phone while allowing a constant internet connection that is completely secure. I don't see how anyone would be able to hack a usb connection. Just a thought. Of course you would have to carry a usb cable in your bag too... but I think that most of us already do for quick and convenient sdcard mounting. But maybe that's just me.
alpine
If the guy has a JB iPhone you can connect via ssh with the user "mobile" and usually "alpine" pass.
you could always do some illegal stuff on you rphone while this person is connected and tell them they he spoofed your mac address to make it look like you lol make them take his pretty iphone lol
djduxx said:
If the guy has a JB iPhone you can connect via ssh with the user "mobile" and usually "alpine" pass.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, awesome suggestion, considering you delete the /Applications directory which would remove all system apps and springboard

Using Chromecast in a hotel

I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I travel for a living and live about 1/2 of the year in a Marriott.. Here are a few options that I use.
1. Bring a small travel router - this really isn't as bad as it sounds. Is really easy and they make very small ones. Here is what I use: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-MR3020
2. Connect your laptop via ethernet and use windows to share it via wifi. - This works, but it can be a pain. Some VPN clients really don't like this however.
3. Use a MiFi or Cell Phone in Hotspot mode.
I will either do #1 or 3 depending on the hotel and if I am in the US or not.
Hope this helps...
Worse comes to worse you could always use a phone or tablet as a hotspot!
pentafive said:
I travel for a living and live about 1/2 of the year in a Marriott.. Here are a few options that I use.
1. Bring a small travel router - this really isn't as bad as it sounds. Is really easy and they make very small ones. Here is what I use:
Link omitted.
2. Connect your laptop via ethernet and use windows to share it via wifi. - This works, but it can be a pain. Some VPN clients really don't like this however.
3. Use a MiFi or Cell Phone in Hotspot mode.
I will either do #1 or 3 depending on the hotel and if I am in the US or not.
Hope this helps...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the help! I have Pdanet installed on my gs3, but I haven't been able to set up the Chromecast without a third device in the mix. Using my work laptop is out of the question since I can't install the Chromecast app on it. I don't like to bring my personal laptop along with me on business trips since it's kind of bulky and heavy for a 2 night trip. I have an old Android tablet I can bring along with me to set everything up and control the Chromecast from but it would be awesome if I can get it working with ONLY the gs3 and Chromecast. Is there some way to make that happen? Or will I need a third device in the mix because the gs3 cant be a hotspot and controller at the same time?
I have this same question. I read on the developer site that wireless isolation must be disabled in order to use the chromecast. This could be a problem since most public WiFi has this feature enabled (and if they don't they should!). I have a chromecast, a tablet, and an android phone so if the hotel WiFi doesn't work I can always hotspot with phone and control with tablet. However, this is not ideal since I don't have unlimited data plan. It will be interesting to see how much data the various apps' use. I have 3 trips planned the next 3 weeks and will see how it goes!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
thenoname said:
Thanks for the help! I have Pdanet installed on my gs3, but I haven't been able to set up the Chromecast without a third device in the mix. Using my work laptop is out of the question since I can't install the Chromecast app on it. I don't like to bring my personal laptop along with me on business trips since it's kind of bulky and heavy for a 2 night trip. I have an old Android tablet I can bring along with me to set everything up and control the Chromecast from but it would be awesome if I can get it working with ONLY the gs3 and Chromecast. Is there some way to make that happen? Or will I need a third device in the mix because the gs3 cant be a hotspot and controller at the same time?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A computer with wifi (a computer just jacked into a router in wont work) is a necessary part of setting up chromecast to a new network.
edit: actually i might be wrong on that, testing something now
---------- Post added at 10:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 PM ----------
Okay, this is what I just did.
I turned Wireless Tether on my phone on. This means wifi can't be on at all and thus your phone can't be on the same network as the chromecast, and won't be able to control chomecast.
BUT
I downloaded the Chromecast app from the playstore to my Nook HD+. It found the Chromecast on my home network and I tapped on it, and saw my Chromecast on my home network (which the nook was also on). I was able to change it from my home network to my phone. This changed the network both my Nook and Chromecast were connected to from my home network to my phone network. I just chromecasted netflix from my Nook to my TV via chromecast fine. So basically I was able to set it up on a new network with no need for a computer.
So if you are traveling, I believe you are going to need to set up your Chromecast to know your phone's wifi network/password before you go. Why? Because my Nook (or your tablet) can't change the network of the Chromecast without already being on the same network. But at this point, I could now take the three devices anywhere now, plugging chromecast into a TV, setting up my phone to tether, and using my tablet to control it.
Annoyingly, once I turned off tethering, the chromecast borked and I had to re-run setup to get it back on my home wireless network. So, it doesn't seem to save multiple networks, unless I did something wrong.
thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HERE IS HOW WITHOUT ANY APPLICATION;
do this first:
http://4sysops.com/archives/how-to-share-wi-fi-in-windows-8-with-internet-connection-sharing-ics/
or this:
http://virtualrouterplus.com/
and for enabling Universal Plug and Play:
http://mywindows8.org/how-to-use-dlna-server-in-windows-8/
cabbieBot said:
So if you are traveling, I believe you are going to need to set up your Chromecast to know your phone's wifi network/password before you go. Why? Because my Nook (or your tablet) can't change the network of the Chromecast without already being on the same network. But at this point, I could now take the three devices anywhere now, plugging chromecast into a TV, setting up my phone to tether, and using my tablet to control it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If needed you could always factory reset your Chromecast by holding down the button for 25 seconds. If you do that, you can set it up from the Chromecast app on your nook and set it to your phone's hotspot.
legendnexus said:
HERE IS HOW WITHOUT ANY APPLICATION;
do this first:
Link omitted.
or this:
Link omitted.
and for enabling Universal Plug and Play:
Link omitted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the suggestions! The only issue is that I can't install anything on my work laptop. I appreciate the help though =)
You wouldn't want to connect a chrome cast to public wifi anyways. Then the guy in the room next door could mess with your playback. Travel Router/Hotspot are your best bets (plus being on your own network is a better idea for privacy and security anyways).
thenoname said:
I plan to bring my Chromecast with me when I travel, but I imagine the Chromecast will have trouble connecting to the hotel Wifi since most hotels have that gateway page you have to go through before you are actually connected to the internet. Is there an easy way around this without bringing my own router with me?
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I work for a WiFi company and we manage the WiFi for dozens of hotel chains throughout the nation. If you contact the technical support number provided by the hotel they can "Bypass" your Chromecast. All they would need is the IP address or MAC address of your Chromecast, we'll locate it in the DHCP pool and then whitelist it. This will cause it to bypass the login page.
Vandam500 said:
I work for a WiFi company and we manage the WiFi for dozens of hotel chains throughout the nation. If you contact the technical support number provided by the hotel they can "Bypass" your Chromecast. All they would need is the IP address or MAC address of your Chromecast, we'll locate it in the DHCP pool and then whitelist it. This will cause it to bypass the login page.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am pleasantly surprised that they would be willing to do that. I figured anything that could possibly take away from the built in pay for viewing content would not be allowed. The other problem though is Wireless Isolation; it disables wireless clients from being to able to see/talk to each other on the wireless network. This is a problem for chromecast since the "casting" device must be able to talk to the chromecast in order to cast content to it. Do you know how widely used the wireless isolation feature is in the hotel biz? Also if it is enabled is there a way to whitelist the chromecast and casting device so that they would see each other on the hotel's wireless network?
crc301 said:
I am pleasantly surprised that they would be willing to do that. I figured anything that could possibly take away from the built in pay for viewing content would not be allowed. The other problem though is Wireless Isolation; it disables wireless clients from being to able to see/talk to each other on the wireless network. This is a problem for chromecast since the "casting" device must be able to talk to the chromecast in order to cast content to it. Do you know how widely used the wireless isolation feature is in the hotel biz? Also if it is enabled is there a way to whitelist the chromecast and casting device so that they would see each other on the hotel's wireless network?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah yeah, forgot about the isolation. Most of our configs are set to not allow wireless devices to allow any type of communication with other devices (Allow traffic between wireless clients)
---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:52 PM ----------
Vandam500 said:
Ah yeah, forgot about the isolation. Most of our configs are set to not allow wireless devices to allow any type of communication with other devices (Allow traffic between wireless clients)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd say ask to speak with a Tier2 and explain the whole situation. They may very well disable the isolation for at least that one night if you get lucky. This is all if you visit one of the locations that we manage. Not sure about other companies.
I suppose you could plug a computer into the hotel's hardwire Internet and enable wireless Internet Connection Sharing rather than bringing a router, if you will already be bringing a computer anyway.
thenoname said:
Thanks for the suggestions! The only issue is that I can't install anything on my work laptop. I appreciate the help though =)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
actually there is no need of program on the first linkk
on the second link someone pretty much write a code for the steps on the first link
MAC spoofing
I was wondering if this would work.
If I were to spoof the MAC of the chromecast on my cell phone, connect to the hotel wireless, sign in through the gateway, then un-spoof my MAC and connect again with my real MAC. Wouldn't the gateway whitelist both MACs?
Depends if it is whitelisting off MAC or off IP. Either way, you still have wireless isolation problem. There would need to be some type of cloud based controller built-in to chromecast that could forward commands between chromecast and client(s).
Google...if your listening please develop chromecast cloud controller. That would be awesome
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Just to update the thread with what I ended up doing. I bought the following travel router off of amazon and it seems to work great! Just in case anyone is looking for one, this one is pretty good. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-SharePort-Companion-DIR-505L/dp/B009LENJ90/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Here is another thread with a similar discussion
thenoname said:
Just to update the thread with what I ended up doing. I bought the following travel router off of amazon and it seems to work great! Just in case anyone is looking for one, this one is pretty good. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-SharePort-Companion-DIR-505L/dp/B009LENJ90/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do these things need a wired connection? Those are becoming rare in hotels. Is there a product that creates a personal wifi network, while getting internet from public wifi?

802.1x

Why Google you no like college students?
Hmmm this probably raises a good point, it's a bit hard to implement something like 802.1x though on a streamer device (where authentication is required per login of network prior to you having the ability to control the device).
I don't see this coming for awhile to be honest unless someone manages to hack it in - I just can't see Google releasing the ability to cache 802.1x network credential sets unfortunately due to the security implications.
Friend of mine had to buy his own router to plug in to the colleges ethernet ports in the dorm. Solved a variety of issues they were having.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
fchowd0696 said:
Why Google you no like college students?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Beyond the lack of keyboard/interface, large networks in general fear multicast and UPnP because they have potential to easily clog the network.
Also remember that Chromecast in its current state has little security - it's designed for use within a trusted environment.
You probably don't want to be in the middle of Twilight with your girlfriend and suddenly your Chromecast switches over to SpongeBob SquarePants because someone else in the dorm decided BobsChromecast obviously wants to show SpongeBob...
Having your own router and local network will isolate your Chromecast to just your little piece of the campus network, though double-NAT might be an issue, and you should check with campus policy on use of personal WiFi router/AP hardware.
I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
ninepoint said:
I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First question is whether you can use a different DNS at all (or whether your ISP is blocking somehow).
Try doing a DNS lookup from another server on your phone/tablet via Ping & DNS or another app that lets you do that.
If that's successful, then it might work - go to the Eureka-ROM web panel at http://Chromecast_IP_addresss/ and turn off DHCP-supplied DNS, Apply, then select another DNS.
You will also need to force your phone/tablet to use the same DNS - otherwise your phone/tablet may be making requests from Mars, while Chromecast tries to retrieve stuff from Venus.

Issues with new TWC modem/router

Hi all, while thinking that faster internet would be a good thing, it seems that I have managed to break chromecast compatibility with my network. Previously I had a Netgear router that worked perfectly, but when we got an upgrade to TWC's new "Extreme Internet" they installed a new WiFi router/modem hybrid that I cannot seem to connect to. I get the message that it is connected to the network but not the internet. Ap isolation. Is disabled, but I cannot find the plug and play feature anywhere in the network settings. Has anyone found a work around?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
jmikeb92 said:
Hi all, while thinking that faster internet would be a good thing, it seems that I have managed to break chromecast compatibility with my network. Previously I had a Netgear router that worked perfectly, but when we got an upgrade to TWC's new "Extreme Internet" they installed a new WiFi router/modem hybrid that I cannot seem to connect to. I get the message that it is connected to the network but not the internet. Ap isolation. Is disabled, but I cannot find the plug and play feature anywhere in the network settings. Has anyone found a work around?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you can give us the exact make and model we might be able to help more.
BTW, TWC changed their policy a few years back and now allow approved customer-owned modems which will save you the modem rental. They used to not charge for the modem rental but also not let you use your own. Installed a Motorola SB6141 for my relative and it's been working great with the Netgear WNDR3700 I put there.
No Chromecast yet because I haven't been by to visit...
You could always use your own modem with twc, just that most people did not know that. Like previously mentioned, more details are needed in order to further assist you. Make and model(tg862g, ddw3611, dvw32011b???). More than likely you just need to call and talk with level 3 tech support. I personally used my own router behind the modem because I do a bit more than normal with my router.
jmikeb92 said:
Hi all, while thinking that faster internet would be a good thing, it seems that I have managed to break chromecast compatibility with my network. Previously I had a Netgear router that worked perfectly, but when we got an upgrade to TWC's new "Extreme Internet" they installed a new WiFi router/modem hybrid that I cannot seem to connect to. I get the message that it is connected to the network but not the internet. Ap isolation. Is disabled, but I cannot find the plug and play feature anywhere in the network settings. Has anyone found a work around?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I went through Hell on Christmas Eve with Time Warner....
They have a new Modem/Router they are using....When connected to a personal Router it does a double Nat translation which really doesn't work at all.
Your lucky if you even get Internet access on a Computer with it.
Check your router and see what IP address it has under internet connection. It should not be 192.168.0.x
If it is not an outside IP you need to call support and tell them you need your Router to breach the Modem and have them shut off all ROUTER capability on their Device so that all it does is pass a public IP to whatever is connected to it.
If you get your phone service from Time Warner as well better call on a Cell Phone because they will drop the phone call the second they mess with their Modem/Router and you will suffer through Groundhog day explaining it to the next guy from scratch!
Well guys I solved my own problem in a way. I disabled the wireless broadcast from the TWC Arris router and just connected my old NetGear ( old as in 2 months old) and it seems to work perfectly now. And the installer said, " You won't need to use your old one because this box is like commercial grade bro."
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
Glad to hear. The wireless modem you have is indeed a great modem and you could use that alone but it is easier to just use your own. The installer more than likely wasn't on the up and up about the more technical aspects of the modem. You can't knock him for that part as the techs are not trained on a lot of the extra features of the modem. I only know this because I may or may not work for the company(need to keep work out of forums).
shelby04861 said:
I only know this because I may or may not work for the company(need to keep work out of forums).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I usually go with "I have a lot of experience with these products"

[Q] isp issues

So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Jared
theatomizer90 said:
So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do they know what device has what MAC? The only thing I can think of is they're doing some blanket blocking by vendor ID (which is part of the MAC)
Chromecast's vendor is Azurewave, so if they're blanket blocking devices that use Azurewave hardware, that's a LOT of devices.
More likely they're tracking and blocking unknown MAC addresses.
They could also be blocking streaming traffic, but Chromecast should at least be able to reach the Internet.
Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.
Can I ask whats your location what country??
Asphyx said:
Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?
bhiga said:
@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
Truth is I would tell the ISP to GFT and stop blocking things I pay them to provide.
I bet there is not a single mention of blocked media devices in the contract which means they are essentially in breach for not providing Internet access.
Asphyx said:
I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the PC is wired, it wouldn't connect to the building wireless...
but that brings up a good point - @theatomizer90 is there a wired Internet connection in your flat/whatever?
If so, you could just connect your own router and connect all your devices to that... The building's network wouldn't know about any of your individual devices unless it's very high end. It's the same as I do in hotels.
It wouldn't help if they're doing packet/traffic filtering though... again, same as hotels...
No hard line... such a bummer. I went and complained to the manager but I doubt anything will come of it.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk
Krisshp said:
Can I ask whats your location what country??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
theatomizer90 said:
Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I get to play with enterprise-class routers from time to time and even they have limits. It depends on both the AP hardware (usually there is a maximum number of associated stations before things start going round-robin) and the router hardware itself as the overall traffic load increases.
Some folks in your situation (not specifically with Chromecast, but general connectivity challenges) have success using cantennas to use more-distant wireless, rather than their limited local infrastructure, but it really depends on the individual situation.
theatomizer90 said:
Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well one solution that would work is to get yourself a travel router...
(An example not a recommendation as I have not used it do some research before you pick one) http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-WL-330N3G-Wireless-N-Mobile-Router/dp/B004OT05LC
The easiest thing to do would be to spoof a wireless access point, there is all kinds of free software to do it. Connect tablet to Wi-Fi. Spoof a wireless ap. Connect cc to spoofed Wi-Fi.
Sent from my LG-LS980 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2

Categories

Resources