Live TV on XBOX via RPI? - Raspberry Pi Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I've been searching around for a while and can't find much of an answer... Everything points me towards running xbmc which isn't really what I want.
I want to run something like TVersity or mythTV on the RPI as a TV / PVR / Media server and probably a number of other things.
I can connect to it and watch / pause / record live TV wirelessly from my netbook / PC / tablet... but the XBOX 360 won't. It has the capability to do it with a Windows Media Centre PC but it doesn't even know the pi is there.
XBMC came from hacking XBOX so I was surprised I couldn't get this functionality even when I did run XBMC.
I know it'd be easier to just run XBMC and connect it to the main TV but it takes uses WAY more resources on the pi than just the servers alone.
Is there a program out there that will fool the XBOX into thinking the RPI is a Windows Media Centre so I can watch TV with it?
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Use Windows Media center
Twisted_Daemon said:
Hey guys,
I've been searching around for a while and can't find much of an answer... Everything points me towards running xbmc which isn't really what I want.
I want to run something like TVersity or mythTV on the RPI as a TV / PVR / Media server and probably a number of other things.
I can connect to it and watch / pause / record live TV wirelessly from my netbook / PC / tablet... but the XBOX 360 won't. It has the capability to do it with a Windows Media Centre PC but it doesn't even know the pi is there.
XBMC came from hacking XBOX so I was surprised I couldn't get this functionality even when I did run XBMC.
I know it'd be easier to just run XBMC and connect it to the main TV but it takes uses WAY more resources on the pi than just the servers alone.
Is there a program out there that will fool the XBOX into thinking the RPI is a Windows Media Centre so I can watch TV with it?
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First to clarify XB360 or Original XBOX?
By far the best solution is to use Windows Media Center on a PC to stream live TV to the XB360. I am a Unix guy through and through and have been so professionally for 15 years, but Windows Media Center is a fantastic product. The windows guys at work turned me onto it years ago, and its the only piece of windows software I have in my house. I use XB360 for gaming, and adding Windows Media center gave me a 6 tuner, multi-room DVR with 1TB of storage and streaming to any device such browsers, ipad etc to boot. It is also a fantastic replacement for XBMC via the Media Browser plugin.
I run Media Center inside a Windows7 VM running on a Linux KVM server and it records/live stream TV tune signals from a couple of HD Homerun network tuners to the XBOX360's we have in the house. You could use an extra PC or a VM too like me to run Media Center.
I would really suggest you look at that solution. It works fantastic.

It's the 360 I have.
My main PC could be set up as the server instead fairly easily but then I'd have to leave the big beasty computer on all the time... I wanted to use the pi because it's low power, silent and I like the idea of running all my servers from such a tiny device.
I doubt it's going to be able to run Windows in a VM solely for Windows Media Centre though.
I was hoping there'd be a way to trick the 360 into thinking that the TV streams coming from TVHeadend are coming from Windows Media Centre.

Twisted_Daemon said:
It's the 360 I have.
My main PC could be set up as the server instead fairly easily but then I'd have to leave the big beasty computer on all the time... I wanted to use the pi because it's low power, silent and I like the idea of running all my servers from such a tiny device.
I doubt it's going to be able to run Windows in a VM solely for Windows Media Centre though.
I was hoping there'd be a way to trick the 360 into thinking that the TV streams coming from TVHeadend are coming from Windows Media Centre.
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I don't think there is anyway to do this.
The way that Windows Media Center works on an XBOX360 is not actually media streaming at all, its a special kind of remote desktop session to the windows media center computer, and there really are not any other programs that can do this same thing.

Wow... That's a weird way of streaming TV... Or even just running the interface...
Maybe I'll just get another pi. Run a TVHeadend server on one and then just use an XBMC client on the other. I've tried running both on one and the performance isn't really great.
Cheers dude
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Webcam or WMP app

I'm looking for a way to monitor my webcam from my phone. This webcam is USB connected to my PC. Currently I have Windows Media Encoder running and it works perfectly. From work I can open windows media player and point it to http://"IP ADDY":"port" and it works. Now how am I going to get this on my phone?
I do have the port forwarded in my router. Not that much of a newb.
good question ive been wanting to know this for a while myslef.
I don't believe the G1 will stream a Windows Media stream (heck it won't play a WMV file). You'll have to stream using a different format. If I remember correctly (and I might not), Orb offers webcam streaming that can be used with the Android Orb app.
try IP cam viewer, it might be compatible with your camera
Fingerlickin said:
I'm looking for a way to monitor my webcam from my phone. This webcam is USB connected to my PC. Currently I have Windows Media Encoder running and it works perfectly. From work I can open windows media player and point it to http://"IP ADDY":"port" and it works. Now how am I going to get this on my phone?
I do have the port forwarded in my router. Not that much of a newb.
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goto market and search 'webcam' - you'll see 'IP cam viewer' by Robert Chou. It works with many many commercial webcams and the dev is the best at responding to questions and requests.

Streaming video app from NAS drive

Well I did Google search my next question and got a bunch of crap. I'm trying to find an alternative video player besides the default player that streams from my home network like "connected media " in the default video app. I'm NOT looking for something that needs me to fire something up on my PC and "sync ". I already have an Iomega NAS drive that streams to my ps3 and thunderbolt even when my Mac is off. It has a 1 TB drive on it. I'm simply looking for a better video player that will also scan for connected wifi media drives. Scouring the market I can't seem to find any that do that in the description. Downloaded a few and they didn't. Some will sync wit iTunes but that's not what I'm looking for. Thx in advance for any ideas ...
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No one.....nothing.....
Nada?
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What kind of shares does your NAS use to share its data? Saamba? Other? Find this out and then we can help you more.
I suspect you'll need something (an app on you're phone) to connect to these shares and then sync the media to your phone, after which you can play. The process of streaming requires intelligent software on both ends. I use DLNA (my NAS supports this) and this works beautifully for me and my streaming needs. This even allows me to stream from my phone to my tv.
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I use dlna. My server uses twonky software. The stock video player on my thunderbolt streams through dlna.. but it sux. Looking 4 a better Dlna streaming alternative ... Thx
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I would just set up a lightweight web server with decent file indexing to stream stuff that way or if you want to go all out, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythTV.
If you want to go the non diy route, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...rives+-+External-_-Western+Digital-_-22136831
yareally said:
I would just set up a lightweight web server with decent file indexing to stream stuff that way or if you want to go all out, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythTV.
If you want to go the non diy route, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...rives+-+External-_-Western+Digital-_-22136831
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Wow... What about the $200 I blew on my iomega nas drive.... ={
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gokudre said:
Wow... What about the $200 I blew on my iomega nas drive.... ={
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Sell it on ebay? Lol
yareally said:
Sell it on ebay? Lol
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OK looked at that. That will stream. I already got something that will stream. My question is on the receiving end. I'm simply looking for an alternative video app for android that supports dnla streaming. Unless u think my streaming issues are on the pushing end?
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Jaxidian said:
What kind of shares does your NAS use to share its data? Saamba? Other? Find this out and then we can help you more.
I suspect you'll need something (an app on you're phone) to connect to these shares and then sync the media to your phone, after which you can play. The process of streaming requires intelligent software on both ends. I use DLNA (my NAS supports this) and this works beautifully for me and my streaming needs. This even allows me to stream from my phone to my tv.
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Yes ..... The stock video player app does this.. but poorly. Looking for an alternative.
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Twonky?
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Twonky?
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http://www.twonky.com/products/
Yes. Its twonky media server software that comes preflashed onto my Nas drive. Hate it. Bad performance steaming to anything
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I use PlayOn to stream video from my home theater PC to my Thunderbolt and Acer Iconia.
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This might be what you want. FFMPEG streaming server on android. I could compile it for you later this week sometime if you feel it's what you want and will use it. I compiled the ffmpeg libraries already just to see if i could do it on the cross compiler, but I didnt compile the actual binary application. It's just a command line app, but you can set it to run in the background and forget it. Adding that with the libraries, you should be able to stream audio and video (including x264 and such) on your phone to whatever output device you wish to watch it on. For those that don't know what FFMPEG is, it's one of the most stable media libraries/app on linux and players such as rockplayer on android use it.
http://rxwen.blogspot.com/2010/05/use-ffmpeg-to-setup-streaming-server-on.html
There are a ton of apps for this, I recently set up a home theater with DLNA support. I downloaded a DMS for the PC like XMBC or Serviio or Twonky. Next, get something like iMediaShare, or ArkMC is beast at this, on your phone. I have both installed. When you connect to your wifi at home they can pick everything up. They both pick up my windows shares, XMBC shares, Serviio, and Nero shares. I had them all set up at once because I was testing, but I think I'm going to pick XMBC.
just search the market for DLNA or NAS is what I did and you get several. Those 2 I mentioned are really good and free. Also, music and pictures are easy, but video is harder because even though it's streaming from a DMP, your phone isn't a very good DMR.
Digital Media Server (DMS): These devices store content and make it available to networked digital media players (DMP) and digital media renderers (DMR). Examples include PCs and network-attached storage (NAS) devices.
Digital Media Player (DMP): These devices find content on digital media servers (DMS) and provide playback and rendering capabilities. Examples include TVs, stereos and home theaters, wireless monitors and game consoles.
Digital Media Renderer (DMR): These devices play content received from a digital media controller (DMC), which will find content from a digital media server (DMS). Examples include TVs, audio/video receivers, video displays and remote speakers for music.
Wiki c/p from DLNA wiki, I found it interesting.
These and several others comprise a streaming solution, and some combine some into one program, like Windows Media Center is a DMP, DMS, while your screen is the DMR.
mjones1052 said:
There are a ton of apps for this, I recently set up a home theater with DLNA support. I downloaded a DMS for the PC like XMBC or Serviio or Twonky. Next, get something like iMediaShare, or ArkMC is beast at this, on your phone. I have both installed. When you connect to your wifi at home they can pick everything up. They both pick up my windows shares, XMBC shares, Serviio, and Nero shares. I had them all set up at once because I was testing, but I think I'm going to pick XMBC.
just search the market for DLNA or NAS is what I did and you get several. Those 2 I mentioned are really good and free. Also, music and pictures are easy, but video is harder because even though it's streaming from a DMP, your phone isn't a very good DMR.
Digital Media Server (DMS): These devices store content and make it available to networked digital media players (DMP) and digital media renderers (DMR). Examples include PCs and network-attached storage (NAS) devices.
Digital Media Player (DMP): These devices find content on digital media servers (DMS) and provide playback and rendering capabilities. Examples include TVs, stereos and home theaters, wireless monitors and game consoles.
Digital Media Renderer (DMR): These devices play content received from a digital media controller (DMC), which will find content from a digital media server (DMS). Examples include TVs, audio/video receivers, video displays and remote speakers for music.
Wiki c/p from DLNA wiki, I found it interesting.
These and several others comprise a streaming solution, and some combine some into one program, like Windows Media Center is a DMP, DMS, while your screen is the DMR.
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Thx! Ill try asap when I get home.. sounds like what I'm looking for
*UPDATE *
ArkMc works exactly as I want. Without any dropped videos. Still. Some I can't fast forward through but I can when viewing with vlc on my Mac. I wish I knew how to edit a video to force it to be fast forwardable... (I know that ain't a word. Lol) but I'm gonna have to try the paid version of arkmc to see what it unlocks. Thx
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You can try to use 3rd party players available at ArkMC, probaly this lets you to fast worward your video.

How can I transfer music/Video etc..To xbox 360?

So Im doing some research and not really coming up with anything but some old froums.. And Though maybe by now lol.. So title pretty much says it. Looking to transfer music to an Xbox 360 and I have tried to plug in and it goes to disk mode but nothing else I see others post some threads like this but it died off with no real answer but I did come across this user saying.. You can use ORB or ZUNE software on your PC but that was it lol so anyone have an idea how else I could do this. I know you can just us a usb flash and transfer it that way.. What about wireless..
O and Im using an Htc Inspire.. thanks
I too am looking for this
To do it using dlna, you need both the xbox360 and your phone on the same network.
You also need a computer running windows media center.
Set the xbox360 up as a media center extender.
Once the xbox360 is actually running in MCE mode, you should then be able to detect it on your phone:
For movies/pictures open the file you want using Gallery, tap menu then select player and you should see the MCE in the list
For music open Music and go to the song you want, again tap menu and select play, then the MCE.
You must have the MC computer turned on and the xbox in MCE mode for it to work. With W7, the xbox will log in in the background as the MCE service and start MC running, not sure about XP or Vista.
There's no reason why MS can't release a xbox update that allows dlna to work without needing MC running on a seperate computer, but it depends on how helpful they want to be.
WOw just to get music from your phone to your xbox that does seem like a bit much lol but thanks for that bit of info..
I don't know if the xbox web browser will be capable of working with this, but it should...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065985

Who else has setup your own server for streaming your video files?

I was wondering what everyone's personal setup for their tablets/phones or their new nexus 7 is streaming wise. Like do you use XMBC, Plex, Etc.
I personally have my own cheap dedi running just lighttpd (SSL secured and password protected) with the files in a directory served to me - I tap on the file on my kindle fire and it starts playing in mx player. What are your streaming solutions?
I use plex but I'm getting a synology 2 bay and and I'm thinking about doing just standard upnp. Plex is nice and all but I'm looking to keep it simple.
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I have an Ubuntu desktop downstairs in my basement acting as server. It's doing a whole array of tasks.... file/print/web/backup/disaster-recovery/owncloud/motion (video surveillance), etc. I'm running Samba on it and always have, as it's really convenient to be on a laptop and just pull a video file off the server accordingly. I also have a HTPC box running Ubuntu with XBMC (autostart). Due to hard drive space limitations, I keep all movies on the HTPC, and all important data/personal data (music, pictures, documents) on my server, so I could easily utilize both systems (server and HTPC) via Samba with the use of AndSMB so I can stream over the network. I'm hoping I can successfully stream as I expect, but we'll see how it goes. I thought I remember another using telling me it works fine.
I just started ripping DVD's and sharing them over a Windows network, and I'm using ES file explorer to view them.
Wireless G + 1080p = not fun.
Eagle1337 said:
Wireless G + 1080p = not fun.
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Streaming 1080p on wireless G worked on my old router. Is it possible you have a bottleneck elsewhere? I've since upgraded to wireless N and I didn't notice a wireless difference in regard to 1080 playback...
I use Serviio upnp server. Works with all my file formats and organises your tv into season/episode a bit like XBMC. App wise BubbleUPNP is pretty good for connecting to your server; you can also do remote streaming if you get the paid version (otherwise you're limited to half hour usage)
Plex is a more attractive solution and has the advantage of being able to stream outside your local network - but i've found the quality of streaming remotely to be quite poor; that's possibly cause i've got a max upload speed of 1mb. Connecting to the server and navigating through the screens is pretty slow/laggy - so for now Serviio's my choice.
I use Emit (http://emitapp.com). It works great most of the time and does on-the-fly encoding of videos, and is very easy to setup and use. For those familiar it's nearly identical to AirVideo for iOS.
I use PS3 Media Server to transcode and stream content to my xbox over my network, and it works well. Anything that would help an android device pick up on that service on the local network?
I'm planning on streaming stuff off my debian box, just waiting for my nexus 7 to turn up so I can work out the best way of doing it.
JaSauders said:
Streaming 1080p on wireless G worked on my old router. Is it possible you have a bottleneck elsewhere? I've since upgraded to wireless N and I didn't notice a wireless difference in regard to 1080 playback...
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I had all kinds of problems on wireless G as well, upgraded to N+ and even with a ~150mb connection high bitrate 1080p videos give me problems still.
Matto.stark said:
I had all kinds of problems on wireless G as well, upgraded to N+ and even with a ~150mb connection high bitrate 1080p videos give me problems still.
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where do you get the 150mb number from? If that's from the network status shown in windows then that's really not accurate. That only shows the max possible link speed at the time, it's a raw number. You can only find out the real speed by copy files across your network and measure the time it take for its size.
If your wifi connection speed is not consistent due to interference or other reason your might experience slow downs. Also, did you enable WMM in the router to prioritize for video?
PlayOn media server.
It will stream tons of stuff available on your desktop to your mobile. Hulu (desktop version), Netflix (really on useful before the Android app was released), CBS.com, any media files in folders you choose, and dozens of other channels. I purchased a lifetime license a couple years ago, it was a great move, I've used it a ton.
Thegreatheed said:
PlayOn media server.
It will stream tons of stuff available on your desktop to your mobile. Hulu (desktop version), Netflix (really on useful before the Android app was released), CBS.com, any media files in folders you choose, and dozens of other channels. I purchased a lifetime license a couple years ago, it was a great move, I've used it a ton.
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What did the lifetime license set you back?
I refuse to buy a piece of software which still require my subscription to other service as a service it self and expires. Which is why I use the free PS3 Media Server.
I use Qloud Media to stream from my laptop to my Gnex. Works great and plays everything.
One more vote for Plex! Its awesome and probably one of the most simple systems I've setup. Has support for local and remote streaming which makes it even more better! www.plexapp.com
Personally I use tvserity. I have not used a FTP server on my home network because Android fails to connect to it at all.. Normally I would use cerberus but ehh.
I just have a plain server running CentOS 6.3 with an NFS share. I prefer raw access anyway
I run an HP Proliant Microserver N36 with 4x 1TB HDs + Windows Home Server 2011 + Plex Media Server. The server streams to HTPCs in the lounge and family rooms + Plex for Android on my Galaxy Note.
Plex for Android works well now that I have ICS on the Note - ICS (or higher) is required for DirectPlay support in Plex - the Microserver is a little underpowered for transcoding.
Connectivity is via switched 1GbE for the HTPCs and 802.11n for the SGN.

Not sure of best way to stream from computer

Well I have had a Chromecast for some time now. I have been lurking for some time now but can't quite figure out what is the best solution for me.
Here is what I am looking to do.. I have quite a few workout dvd's that the Wife and I use, Yoga and the such. I want to eliminate the need to use the dvd player... my goal is to have everything ripped to my desktop, then use my phone to control what is displayed on the chromecast? especially since i have multiple chromecasts.....I just can't figure out what combination of apps I need to accomplish it... I have used ALLCast but the video will mess up during streaming... (Galaxy S3)
I am assuming I need some sort of media server service running on my desktop..(Plex?)
Any thoughts or suggestions would be great!
cdrshm
Rip the DVDs to MP4 files on your computer using some video tool like Handbrake. Enable the DLNA server function in Windows if you haven't already, and add your video folder as one of the shared media folders. Install BubbleUPnP on your Android phone. Select your computer as the source, Chromecast as the destination. Select your desired video and cast it to the Chromecast, controlling it with BubbleUPnP.
Plex is certainly an alternative, but you would have to install and set up Plex Media Server on your computer, and currently you have to pay $4/month for Plex Pass to use Plex with the Chromecast. For what you want to do the above combination is simpler and free.
@DJames1 hit it on the head.
Since I have multiple players, I'm waiting for My Movies to release Chromecast support, but I suspect it might be a while...
DJames1 said:
Rip the DVDs to MP4 files on your computer using some video tool like Handbrake. Enable the DLNA server function in Windows if you haven't already, and add your video folder as one of the shared media folders. Install BubbleUPnP on your Android phone. Select your computer as the source, Chromecast as the destination. Select your desired video and cast it to the Chromecast, controlling it with BubbleUPnP.
Plex is certainly an alternative, but you would have to install and set up Plex Media Server on your computer, and currently you have to pay $4/month for Plex Pass to use Plex with the Chromecast. For what you want to do the above combination is simpler and free.
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WOW! This works perfect! Thanks for helping me out! It works better than expected!!
Thanks Again!!
cdrshm
+1 to DJ!
Only thing I would quibble with is I'm not sure the Windows Media DLNA is a very good option but it is free and requires no installation.
Bubble requires SOME DLNA server since it does not have this function built in yet and instead aggregates media from other sources.
Something I suspect Bubble will soon add to it's arsenal!
You can also browse files in the chrome browser, such as your movie folder. And simply cast from that. Works instantly, easily, casts in the same quality the file is in, and requires no additional software or set up.
For instance, my data drive is F, I just browse to file:///F:/ on chrome, select my movies folder and start the video then cast from the browser.
^^ That's tab-casting. While it works as long as your computer is fast enough, it has several issues compared to the recommended solution:
1. It puts a heavier workload on your PC due to Google's rather inefficient tab-casting code.
2. Even with a high-performance PC, the video tends to stutter a little when tab-casting.
3. It has to be controlled from the PC. The OP said that he has an Android phone he wants to use as the controller.
If the OP were interested in trying streaming from Chrome, he would be better off to use the newly-renamed Videostream extension for Chrome mentioned in another thread here. It offers much smoother performance than tab-casting.
I use serviio on my computer and Avia on my devices. Works great.
I use Logitech Media Server with avia and it works perfectly...
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^^ Also good solutions, but Avia isn't quite free, and they would require the OP to install a new media server on his PC.
Any good solution for mac os?
2fastkuztoms said:
Any good solution for mac os?
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Plex is probably the easiest option but it currently requires PlexPass subscription as it's still getting the kinks worked out.
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You could use any DLNA server that runs on Mac along with BubbleUPnP as the controller on Android. I would probably choose Serviio.
Asphyx said:
+1 to DJ!
Only thing I would quibble with is I'm not sure the Windows Media DLNA is a very good option but it is free and requires no installation.
Bubble requires SOME DLNA server since it does not have this function built in yet and instead aggregates media from other sources.
Something I suspect Bubble will soon add to it's arsenal!
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Agreed Windows Media Server sucks. Install the free BubbleUPnP Server side app on your PC. Pay for the pro license of BubbleUPnP on Android and not only can you stream your PC media to Chromecast but you can stream through your PS3 and you can remotely watch all of your videos on your Android device or anyone else's media server in the world
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