Hi,
I'm looking to root my HTC One. I know the easy way is to unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash su, done, but there is that part about "may void your warranty". I read that HTC will still repair hardware issues even if the bootloader is unlocked, but still I'm curious about different ways to root.
So... as far as I can tell by looking at the htcdev kernel source the kernel is vulnerable to the sw_perf_event exploit (http://packetstormsecurity.com/files/121616/semtex.c), and than there is this project https://github.com/android-rooting-tools/libperf_event_exploit.
I was wondering if anyone made that exploit work on the M7 (aka found the right offset) and also if you think it would be worth rooting with that. I guess I won't be able to flash new ROMs as the bootloader would still be locked, right? Or will I be able to flash the recovery partition withoud needing to unlock the bootloader (I guess not)?
Thanks
sciepy said:
Hi,
I'm looking to root my HTC One. I know the easy way is to unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash su, done, but there is that part about "may void your warranty". I read that HTC will still repair hardware issues even if the bootloader is unlocked, but still I'm curious about different ways to root.
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this is false. you will have to pay for any repairs performed on the device.
Blanket statements like this are troublesome. The warranty coverage varies by country. I've had warranty replaced phones that were rooted with no problem here in the US
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Hello all,
I just come from the HTC hero and I bought the nexus one. My hero was rooted and it was nice, I ve seen tutorials to explain how to root the nexus one, but it seems it breaks the warranty. Is there a way to unroot the nexus one as we could for the htc hero?
If not, will there be a way soon guys?
Thanks for helping me, as I d lke to root the nexus one, but loosing the warranty is a big problem....do you have feedback on rooted nexus one sent to warranty?
I may be wrong, but i don't think that rooting breaks the warranty. It's unlocking the bootloader that breaks the warranty. That's two different things.
And as far as i know, it's quite easy to unroot, but it's almost impossible to relock an unlocked bootloader.
Please post in right section thanks.
mmm; ok, but can we install custom roms without unlocking the bootloader?
Nope, don't think so
You cannot install custom roms without unlocking the bootloader, and u cant unlock the bootloader without breaking the warranty. There are quite a few threads on this already, try search next time
Confused
So it is possible to root the nexus one without unlocking the bootloader? If so how..?
To root the phone or install a custom ROM, u need to unlock ur bootloader... which also means goodbye warranty
in order to root your phone you must unlock your boot loader first. so when you unlock your boot loader to root you lost your warranty.
You guys all say "goodbye warranty" as if HTC isn't replacing/repairing rooted Nexus's... This alone has been steering many people away from rooting the N1. I know 2 people that had rooted N1's and they both got their devices replaced by HTC and that doesn't count all the people posting here that have also been successful even though they have rooted phones.
I have rooted/unlocked my bootloader. Then I found that I had the dust under the screen issue. Contacted HTC they sent a replacement. I sent the phone in, restore to stock besides the bootloader being unlocked. They received it, inspected it, and that was that. My case was closed with no questions asked.
I am an Android Developer, but so far I've avoided rooting my phone or trying custom kernels, but lately I get the feeling I could learn so much more by really getting behind the curtain so to speak. I keep reading that if you root the phone you may void your warranty and no longer get over the air updates.
I'm on AT&T an paid full price for my Nexus One. I also got the phone engraved so I'm wondering what value if any the warranty actually has. Is it worth mucking around with custom kernels on the Nexus one, or should I get a cheaper dev phone like the G1 ?
Looking forward to hearing advice from other developers and what you've learned versus the risks involved.
Oh, Do you still get OTA updates as well?
I'm interested in hearing from people who decided the warranty was or was not work the risk. Looks pretty easy from what I can see.
Thanks all.
Just root it without unlocking the bootloader and you're good to go
J.L.C. said:
Just root it without unlocking the bootloader and you're good to go
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^this
root is fun and even better you can keep your warranty
Does using the technique of not unlocking the bootloader also mean you can run custom ROMs and/or recoveries? Or just gain root access to the stock ROM?
flybyme said:
^this
root is fun and even better you can keep your warranty
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You CAN root your Nexus One without losing your warrenty.
I had my bootloader Unlocked, then i got a issue with mounting SD cards.
I sent the phone to HTC Repair center and just got it back today with the issues gone and Bootloader locked
Unlocking your Nexus One bootloader does void your warrenty with HTC, but if you experience hardware issues, they dont care if you unlocked your bootloader !!
By unlocking your Bootloader you can put whatever ROM on your phone you like, doesn't have to be stock
About the OTA's.
Yes you will get them if you run Stock ROM's.
You will not be able to install them however since you are not using a stock recovery image.
Wow, didn't know they didn't care about unlocked bootloader as long as your problem is in hardware. My GPS doesn't work at all and I'd like to send in my phone for repairs but the bootloader is unlocked.How long did it take for you to get your phone back?
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WebghostDK said:
You CAN root your Nexus One without losing your warrenty.
I had my bootloader Unlocked, then i got a issue with mounting SD cards.
I sent the phone to HTC Repair center and just got it back today with the issues gone and Bootloader locked
Unlocking your Nexus One bootloader does void your warrenty with HTC, but if you experience hardware issues, they dont care if you unlocked your bootloader !!
By unlocking your Bootloader you can put whatever ROM on your phone you like, doesn't have to be stock
About the OTA's.
Yes you will get them if you run Stock ROM's.
You will not be able to install them however since you are not using a stock recovery image.
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718141
they arent always so nice haha
cmcm said:
Wow, didn't know they didn't care about unlocked bootloader as long as your problem is in hardware. My GPS doesn't work at all and I'd like to send in my phone for repairs but the bootloader is unlocked.How long did it take for you to get your phone back?
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I sent my phone from Denmark to UK, it took 1½ week quite fast
Can you point me to a link with instructions on how to do this?
I've found a few videos and articles that say this can be done, but reading to the end they all say seem to be closed or say not to do it.
Is it still possible to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader? I've searched google, but keep coming up with dead ends.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
shad0wboss said:
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
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get S Off then use " Guru bootloader reset tool" remove Tempered and Lock bootloader warranty will come back HTC won't ask you if phone show locked
If relocked is there means no warranty
shad0wboss said:
I don't understand one thing. Even if it's possible to completely lock back the bootloader, what is the point, since htc would know that you have already unlocked the bootloader using their bin file. Wouldn't it still void the warranty even if you relock the bootloader.
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It would seem that it would, but their disclaimer states "may or may not" void the warranty. If it is "Locked" with no "Tampered" there is always the possibility that they may not look or search to see if you unlocked the bootloader. I would rather have it look as if it was never unlocked than leave it unlocked and remove all doubt!
majmoz said:
It would seem that it would, but their disclaimer states "may or may not" void the warranty. If it is "Locked" with no "Tampered" there is always the possibility that they may not look or search to see if you unlocked the bootloader. I would rather have it look as if it was never unlocked than leave it unlocked and remove all doubt!
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Also, is it worth flashing or custom roms here are as good as stock. I just don't like sense, specially the lockscreen on 6
shad0wboss said:
Also, is it worth flashing or custom roms here are as good as stock. I just don't like sense, specially the lockscreen on 6
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flashing custom rom worth it if the stock rom doesn't fit your needs. You'll have to read some custom rom threads and try a few to get an idea of what rom you prefer as "which rom is better" discussions are not allowed in this forum.
For your bootloader question, If you send back the phone for warranty repair, and the bootload is LOCKED (not relocked) and everything else is stock, there is 99% chances HTC will honor the warranty without any question. And even if they know that you have requested an unlock_code.bin from HTCdev.com , how are they supposed to known if you have used it or not? Maybe you have requested a code, and you have changed your mind.... HTC said that unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, not that requesting an unlock code void the warranty
alray said:
flashing custom rom worth it if the stock rom doesn't fit your needs. You'll have to read some custom rom threads and try a few to get an idea of what rom you prefer as "which rom is better" discussions are not allowed in this forum.
For your bootloader question, If you send back the phone for warranty repair, and the bootload is LOCKED (not relocked) and everything else is stock, there is 99% chances HTC will honor the warranty without any question. And even if they know that you have requested an unlock_code.bin from HTCdev.com , how are they supposed to known if you have used it or not? Maybe you have requested a code, and you have changed your mind.... HTC said that unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, not that requesting an unlock code void the warranty
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I see. On a side note, can i unlock-root then flash a rom (4.2.2) and then s-off? even though i'm on 4.4.2 at the moment.
shad0wboss said:
I see. On a side note, can i unlock-root then flash a rom (4.2.2) and then s-off? even though i'm on 4.4.2 at the moment.
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yes you can unlock, root and flash a rom. if you want to s-off you might be able to do it using firewater s-off. If firewater fails, then sunshine should works, but sunshine is a paid exploit, don't remember the exact price, I think its around 20-25$. S-off can also be achieved with a java card (fonefunshop.com)
alray said:
yes you can unlock, root and flash a rom. if you want to s-off you might be able to do it using firewater s-off. If firewater fails, then sunshine should works, but sunshine is a paid exploit, don't remember the exact price, I think its around 20-25$
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I was wondering because my hboot is 1.57 and many are having trouble so if i unlock and then find out that it doesn't work then i'll have warranty issues...
shad0wboss said:
I was wondering because my hboot is 1.57 and many are having trouble so if i unlock and then find out that it doesn't work then i'll have warranty issues...
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exactly....
firewater may not works (50-50) but afaik, sunshine should work (not tested it myself, better to check the official thread). In last resort, the java card method from fonefunshop.com will work. firewater is free, sunshine cost 25$ iirc and fonefunshop.com cost £14.99 + shipping to UK
Sunshine works on all m7 phones. You may need a stock Rom or at least stock kernel but it will work. Try Firewater first but most people don't have any luck with it these days
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Sunshine works on all m7 phones. You may need a stock Rom or at least stock kernel but it will work. Try Firewater first but most people don't have any luck with it these days
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Yeah well i ain't paying for an exploit
Guess i'll stay stock until a hero emerges and updates firewater.
What are the benefits of s-off over just unlocked boot loader
by unlocking bootloader u can root ur device, can flash custom recovery & custom roms on ur android device....
shad0wboss said:
What are the benefits of s-off over just unlocked boot loader
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I don't have this particular device but I will tell you the general information and you can work with that.
About Bootloader(Unlocked Bootloader):
The bootloader is like a BIOS of your PC. It is the thing that is powered on and verifies all hardware and is responsible for making connection with the hardware. This can either be unlocked or locked. When you have a locked bootloader you can still root (if an exploit is available). You can even install a recovery or custom rom if an exploit is available (like BUMP was). What was it doing? Signing the images for your so the locked bootloader will think it is the OEM image. In most of the cases this is not so happy. Usually you can't flash a recovery or a custom rom or stuff like that with a locked bootloader. Some OEM's provide websites to unlock the bootloader (with the cost of losing warranty; well not really). This is the case of Sony, HTC. Some Oem's don't provide this.
About S-off:
What does S-off mean? Security off. Your device will come with S-ON always unless it's a Dev edition (correct me if I am wrong). What this does is it doesn't leave you to do very advanced operations related to the EMMC (the Nand chip). You can't flash a bootloader you wish or stuff like that. Update radio partition. In some cases system partition is also secured so you can't flash a custom ROM. By S-off you get full control of your device but if a mistakes occurs you will end up with a hard-bricked device.
Peace. Hope you understood.
neutrondev said:
I don't have this particular device but I will tell you the general information and you can work with that.
About Bootloader(Unlocked Bootloader):
The bootloader is like a BIOS of your PC. It is the thing that is powered on and verifies all hardware and is responsible for making connection with the hardware. This can either be unlocked or locked. When you have a locked bootloader you can still root (if an exploit is available). You can even install a recovery or custom rom if an exploit is available (like BUMP was). What was it doing? Signing the images for your so the locked bootloader will think it is the OEM image. In most of the cases this is not so happy. Usually you can't flash a recovery or a custom rom or stuff like that with a locked bootloader. Some OEM's provide websites to unlock the bootloader (with the cost of losing warranty; well not really). This is the case of Sony, HTC. Some Oem's don't provide this.
About S-off:
What does S-off mean? Security off. Your device will come with S-ON always unless it's a Dev edition (correct me if I am wrong). What this does is it doesn't leave you to do very advanced operations related to the EMMC (the Nand chip). You can't flash a bootloader you wish or stuff like that. Update radio partition. In some cases system partition is also secured so you can't flash a custom ROM. By S-off you get full control of your device but if a mistakes occurs you will end up with a hard-bricked device.
Peace. Hope you understood.
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Thanks!
Things is, i was more concerned about the practical info about this device specifically because I have read that with just bootloader unlocked, the roms that i'll be able to flash will only change the visual and not so much with the kernel etc. I don't understand why people would choose to S-OFF for this device for other than just relocking the bootloader.
shad0wboss said:
Thanks!
Things is, i was more concerned about the practical info about this device specifically because I have read that with just bootloader unlocked, the roms that i'll be able to flash will only change the visual and not so much with the kernel etc. I don't understand why people would choose to S-OFF for this device for other than just relocking the bootloader.
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Sorry I can't really help you with that information I don't know if you can flash a Custom kernel with S-on. Never had a sony. Someone will help you out soon.I hope.
i'l bump this question up then :/
I think S-off is a term unique to HTC devices. Its the equivalent of an unlocked bootloader
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I think S-off is a term unique to HTC devices. Its the equivalent of an unlocked bootloader
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yes but nth to lose on HTC except warranty (still subject to which svc ctr tho) while on Sony, losing DRM keys (w/o backup) are like downgrading ur phone full capabilities.
monx® said:
yes but nth to lose on HTC except warranty (still subject to which svc ctr tho) while on Sony, losing DRM keys (w/o backup) are like downgrading ur phone full capabilities.
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Is there a way to root without losing keys? I have Z3 LTE D6603 atm.
Sorry if it's a dumb question, I'm new here. And also new to sony rooting, which seems much more complex than my old Nexus 5 lol
tonysunshine said:
I think S-off is a term unique to HTC devices. Its the equivalent of an unlocked bootloader
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Not really, you can flash kernels, roms ( aosp roms etc ) with unlocked bootloader, S-off gives you other stuff like changing mid, cid, sim unlock, downgrading/upgrading bootloader, converting to full GPE or dev edition, unlocking bootloader without need of HTC, flashing splash image, custom bootloaders, even converting to Windows ( if available of course ) locking it instead of re-locking it, restoring it to full stock state ( which is not possible without S-off ), simply put your device has no limits with S-off on HTC.
Anyway S-off isn't really needed unless you care for the things above ( if Sony even has S-off ), Sony has poor development so S-off isn't even needed or unlocking bootloader since basically all you get is aosp roms, stock alike roms are flashable with locked bootloader as far as I remember.
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Hello, i have a retail xt1097, its already updated to marshmallow, dont really need to be root forever but i need at least temporal root to do some one-time minor changes, such as install my desired launcher as system, led for battery, hostfile and such.
The problem is i dont want to unlock the bootloader untill warranty expires (still 7 months of warranty) so the question is if any app/exploit, can temp root this device, under MM.
*Tryed searching and i found kingoroot does the trick but im not sure if it will work on MM, i cant mess up bricking phones now because im not be able to repair them since weather its hot, people overload powerlines and electricity drops all the time and makes my pc suddently power off.
Any advice? Thanks guys
As far as I know root isn't possible with locked bootloader.
There has been quite a bit of discussion (I think most of what I read was on other forums) about Motorola's warranty policy for unlocked bootloaders: it seems that from what people have experienced they will still honor the warranty if it is strictly a hardware problem. I bought my phone used but with over a year of Moto Care remaining, which the original owner transferred to me. He (the original owner) had already unlocked the bootloader, but the Moto Care is still shown as active and valid on my account, even though I don't even have stock rom anymore. Just to be safe I would definitely (if possible) re-flash stock rom prior to making any warranty claim.
Hmm makes sense, then can i unlock BL, root, do my things, then unroot, flash stock recovery and relock? is that posible? does it need a custom kernel too? im ok with the stock rom just need few one-time tweaks...
Unless you really use Moto Voice a lot I would just install the newly released CM14.1, and if you ever need warranty work try to reflash stock beforehand. Otherwise, flash twrp, root, etc.... That is covered in the general section, probably linked to some of the stickies at the top of the page. I'm not sure if it will work for you to make system modifications and then try to relock bootloader. I think part of relocking the bootloader includes flashing the stock rom, which would undo any changes you have made.