Currently taking an order for the Moto X on ebay? - Moto X Q&A

Not quite sure what to think about this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
Crazy hype on this phone!

You could have bought one of the prototypes. Search eBay for item 251319928224. Sold for $1,044.00!

zoltecrules said:
You could have bought one of the prototypes. Search eBay for item 251319928224. Sold for $1,044.00!
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Whoa. The media blitz is working. I hope it's a good phone.

26kick said:
Whoa. The media blitz is working. I hope it's a good phone.
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Except the camera.

Yakuzahi said:
Except the camera.
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Why does everyone keep hating on the camera? Look through Guy Kawasaki's G+ photos and tell me if those all those unedited photos and videos he took with the MotoX are bad. It may not be the absolute best camera out there and yes, every camera will have some weak spots. But in most real world situations, this camera is still a huge step up for most people and gets the job done, especially for me knowing how crappy the camera is on the Nexus 4. If you want perfect photos, use a DSLR.

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LG announces Optimus 4X HD Smartphone

LG Electronics has officially announced its first quad-core smartphone dubbed as Optimus 4X HD. Optimus 4X HD will be showcased at Mobile World Congress ( MWC ) in Barcelona...............
http://mirolta.com/2012/02/23/lg-announces-its-first-quad-core-smartphone-dubbed-as-optimus-4x-hd/
Another nice phone from LG..... good news. I wonder if they are going to announce if it is coming to the U.S. at the MWC.
soomuch said:
Another nice phone from LG..... good news. I wonder if they are going to announce if it is coming to the U.S. at the MWC.
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Another nice phone? You obviously never dealt with the G2X and the pile of garbage it was.
A vid of it.
codito said:
Another nice phone? You obviously never dealt with the G2X and the pile of garbage it was.
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Actually i did and i generally agree with you as most LG phones were released the past 2 years or even more are not that great. I was thinking more compared to their new releases such as the LG Parada 3.0 which i personally think its a pretty cool looking phone. I just hope that they improve their software so it would truly utilize the nice specs. Looks is not the only deciding factor here
All sounds good, but when are phones going to get past the 8MP camera hurdle? The Nokia n8 had 12mp what 2 years ago now?
DigitalSkyline said:
All sounds good, but when are phones going to get past the 8MP camera hurdle? The Nokia n8 had 12mp what 2 years ago now?
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Megapixels are completely meaningless, how have you not grasped this by 2012?
DigitalSkyline said:
All sounds good, but when are phones going to get past the 8MP camera hurdle? The Nokia n8 had 12mp what 2 years ago now?
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codito said:
Megapixels are completely meaningless, how have you not grasped this by 2012?
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That's right, but in case anyone is interested Sony Xperia S (and Xperia Ion too I think) has a 12MP camera with Exmor (CMOS) sensor.
I work with LG in Korea and they are very worried about their mobile business at the moment. Samsung are destroying them in the domestic market.
codito said:
Megapixels are completely meaningless, how have you not grasped this by 2012?
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Hi oh mighty flippant one... the n8 also has the Carl Zeiss lens and Xenon flash ... are these meaningless too?
Decimatio said:
I work with LG in Korea and they are very worried about their mobile business at the moment. Samsung are destroying them in the domestic market.
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Well I think LG should know why they are losing to Samsung... They make great hardware, but scrappy software(relatively good in p880 though) and horrible customer support(In other countries I don't know about Korea). They don't improve much despite much complains. How would you expect them to not lose to Samsung, which is well received by many?
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DigitalSkyline said:
Hi oh mighty flippant one... the n8 also has the Carl Zeiss lens and Xenon flash ... are these meaningless too?
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Nope, but they weren't the topic. When it comes to Fotography in these tiny devices with their tiny lenses, he's right: more than 8 MBits are indeed completely useless. Even much large sensor chips in say a Canon G10, which had 14 Mpixels, had to many ... which is why Canon went back to LESS Mpixels. In fact, more MPixels in such a tiny thing are contraproductive, you get more electrical interference and no gain. The most important thing here is the sensors size, which is tiny in all phones. But: Since they all got completely crappy lenses, it's true, that the better one in the N8 can improve qiality, even with the tiny sensor. If you want anything more decent, the senor has to grow and there needs to be much better (foldable?) optics. The N8 is about the best you can do with such a tiny setup.
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flickyamom said:
Well I think LG should know why they are losing to Samsung... They make great hardware, but scrappy software(relatively good in p880 though) and horrible customer support(In other countries I don't know about Korea). They don't improve much despite much complains. How would you expect them to not lose to Samsung, which is well received by many?
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Seems so ... although, I had two updates on the 4X after I bought it .. that's not bad. And the phone runs pretty well stock. Maybe they did learn a bit. I'd find it sad, if they get into problems, because no big player like Samsung should be allowed to dominate everything ... pseudo monopolies are crap. Samsungs support is also quite far from perfect. The Update App from them on my Samsung Notebook fails often, can't connect, their server structure for it is extremely slow and you can't even manually download the drivers instead, because they don't maintain their download area properly. Asus is far better for instance in that respect (and still not perfect). Samsung also got too big to care about customers much anymore, but their software has a better developer team than LG. (I also find LGs update software for the PC unspeakably terrible).

Are you looking forward to the 32GB Nexus 7?

Are you excited about the 32GB version coming out? I'm ready to get my hands on one. I was going to buy one (16GB nexus 7) earlier but I'm glad I waited lol. Anyway another question, do you think they'll add a rear camera too? Or another question would be how long do you think it'd take them to release an updated one with a rear camera.
I know taking photos and video with a rear facing camera on a tablet is stupid but if I'm using my tablet and something happens it'd be nice to take a quick photo of it
What is the point of this thread? This isn't a chat room..
McMichael96 said:
So are throwing your piece of crap Nexus 7 for a beautiful iPad mini? Just kidding lol.
What I meant to say are you excited about the 32GB version coming out? I'm ready to get my hands on one. I was going to buy one earlier but I'm glad I waited lol. Anyway another question, do you think they'll add a rear camera too? Or another question would be how long do you think it'd take them to release an updated one with a rear camera.
I know taking photos and video with a rear facing camera on a tablet is stupid but if I'm using my tablet and something happens it'd be nice to take a quick photo of it
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A rear camera for me would only be necessary if the tablet came with 3g. Ya know? For easy sharing on Facebook, instagram, Google drive, etc.. A 32gb model with a rear facing camera and 3g would make this a very stellar device
afrojoc said:
A rear camera for me would only be necessary if the tablet came with 3g. Ya know? For easy sharing on Facebook, instagram, Google drive, etc.. A 32gb model with a rear facing camera and 3g would make this a very stellar device
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that's what tethering is for plus I'd almost always be around WiFi with this tablet.
never mind
Please continue this discussion in one of the already existing 32GB threads.
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Nexus 6 camera?

Isn't nexus 6 pre order goes in few days? Still nobody has a full review of how camera is? Only thing i could find was the verge shots which didn't look great. Do you guys think will there be a review on camera before it's released? Thanks
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Camera will be at worst good, and mods/aps will make it amazing, the hardware is there, do not worry about it.
I was wondering the same thing. Seems strange that there is not any camera samples or reviews since the first set of leaked samples...
dazed1 said:
Camera will be at worst good, and mods/aps will make it amazing, the hardware is there, do not worry about it.
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Its the same sensor as the G3 SK I expect it to be very good, and if the software is bad its no big deal because this is XDA.
Pilz said:
Its the same sensor as the G3 SK I expect it to be very good, and if the software is bad its no big deal because this is XDA.
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Nope, its better sensor then the one in the G3
dazed1 said:
Nope, its better sensor then the one in the G3
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That's even better then, I could do a comparison when I get my N6 because I'm keeping one of my G3's.
Pilz said:
That's even better then, I could do a comparison when I get my N6 because I'm keeping one of my G3's.
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LG make the camera app very good, don't know what magic they are using but with IMX 135, F2.4 they are beating phones with IMX214 F1.8/2.0 (Mi4, Oneplusone) and so on, so it will be tough for the N6 without mods/tweaks.
dazed1 said:
LG make the camera app very good, don't know what magic they are using but with IMX 135, F2.4 they are beating phones with IMX214 F1.8/2.0 (Mi4, Oneplusone) and so on, so it will be tough for the N6 without mods/tweaks.
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Its called laser auto focus .....much better

[Q] Where's the 60 FPS recording?

Is a way for me to get 60 FPS video recording capability on my Nexus 6? I am rooted...
EDIT: I'm an idiot. It's been a long day at work. I should learn to search.
EDIT 2: Nope... L Camera only lets me do 30 FPS... hmm.
It is right next to the burst mode on your camera [emoji23]
Great hardware crappy software
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DebianDog said:
It is right next to the burst mode on your camera [emoji23]
Great hardware crappy software
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Everything ending in x60 is greyed out.
Yes these are the biggest complaints about the phone. I had more options on my Galaxy S3 or my Motorola Xoom than I do this phone when it comes to camera and video tools.
Does the camera take a decent picture one at a time? Sure. But compared to an iPhone 6 the software supplied is laughable
oh the other thing that is going to drive you crazy is the focus hunting that the camera will do while in video mode .
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DebianDog said:
Yes these are the biggest complaints about the phone. I had more options on my Galaxy S3 or my Motorola Xoom than I do this phone when it comes to camera and video tools.
Does the camera take a decent picture one at a time? Sure. But compared to an iPhone 6 the software supplied is laughable
oh the other thing that is going to drive you crazy is the focus hunting that the camera will do while in video mode .
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you better be careful around here, people don't like honesty. they would rather hear/read something pretty instead, even of its not the truth
Try open camera
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DebianDog said:
Yes these are the biggest complaints about the phone. I had more options on my Galaxy S3 or my Motorola Xoom than I do this phone when it comes to camera and video tools.
Does the camera take a decent picture one at a time? Sure. But compared to an iPhone 6 the software supplied is laughable
oh the other thing that is going to drive you crazy is the focus hunting that the camera will do while in video mode .
Sent from my Benzo'd Google N6 on VZ
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Takes a great picture. I love HDR + too. The time lapse and slow motion on iPhone 6 is really impressive though. And I agree with the focus hunting or even sometimes, lack of...
I was at a gig last week. Focused in on the band then decided to get some crowd shots... Then I couldn't focus on the band again. Ruined the vid.
Yes it is very agitating. my boss has an iPhone 6+ and I was shooting video with it and I have to admit, I was kind of jealous.
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DebianDog said:
Yes it is very agitating. my boss has an iPhone 6+ and I was shooting video with it and I have to admit, I was kind of jealous.
Sent from my Benzo'd Google N6 on VZ
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Swings and roundabouts. We put them both together playing the same 4k video, and the iPhone user definitely preferred the sharpness and saturation of the nexus.
rootSU said:
Takes a great picture. I love HDR + too. The time lapse and slow motion on iPhone 6 is really impressive though. And I agree with the focus hunting or even sometimes, lack of...
I was at a gig last week. Focused in on the band then decided to get some crowd shots... Then I couldn't focus on the band again. Ruined the vid.
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Built-in iOS8 time lapse mode is indeed interesting, though most iPeople I know like Hyperlapse by the Instagram folks
I like Gallus for Android, though YMMV.
- ooofest
I tried all the cameras to fix the focus issues. None don't work best bet is to keep hdr+ on for still pictures and don't move when recording. Or do what i did sold my nexus and bought a note 4. I really wanted to like the n6 but way to many issuses for me. Maybe things changed since it came out but i got mine when it came out and sold it about a month later, i couldn't fix the issues it had nor the time to wait for it to get fixed.
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I tried all the cameras to fix the focus issues. None don't work best bet is to keep hdr+ on for still pictures and don't move when recording. Or do what i did sold my nexus and bought a note 4. I really wanted to like the n6 but way to many issuses for me. Maybe things changed since it came out but i got mine when it came out and sold it about a month later, i couldn't fix the issues it had nor the time to wait for it to get fixed.
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Have fun. My roommate's Note 4 has the same focus issue when he records video.
L Camera can lock the focus and record. There's even a few recordings floating around the Nexus 6 subreddit of a guy taking an excellent video of a low light concert with no focus hunting at all.

Is the N6 still worth it ? vs 5X ?

Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
biascoblix said:
Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
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You can find it on places like swappa for alot less.
The size does take a bit to get used to. Not to much though.
zelendel said:
You can find it on places like swappa for alot less.
The size does take a bit to get used to. Not to much though.
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Yea, It's a lot cheaper there...
XT1103 vs XT1100 !? Is there any difference beside the Bands ? They run the same rom/kernel, right ?
biascoblix said:
...The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker....
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I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
biascoblix said:
Yea, It's a lot cheaper there...
XT1103 vs XT1100 !? Is there any difference beside the Bands ? They run the same rom/kernel, right ?
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That depends on where you live. One is for the US and North America and the others is for the rest of the world. That depends on if you can connecto to 4g/3g where you are.
I got my not to long ago for 300. Not new but from a trusted source and cant be happier with it.
triguyrn said:
I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
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Mostly because too many people that are making them are using subpar parts. The tech will take a few years to take hold. I am in the same boat. I am in no rush to change. Right now I have one cable for all my devices. I dont want to have to carry another cable around.
triguyrn said:
I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
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Well, currently for me... An Old USB port is much better... I won't have to buy and carry adapters with me wherever I go... Maybe in 2 or 3 years when USB C become more mainstream, I'd sure buy a phone with a USB C. But now, NO !
And the fact that some of the adapters being sold on Amazon can be considered deadly for your device and can cause problems is another downside...
zelendel said:
That depends on where you live. One is for the US and North America and the others is for the rest of the world. That depends on if you can connecto to 4g/3g where you are.
I got my not to long ago for 300. Not new but from a trusted source and cant be happier with it.
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So, the only difference is the bands... Okay, I'm looking into swappa right now... If I can't find a good one.. I'll just buy a new one from local retailer here... 350$ with a 1 year warranty...
biascoblix said:
Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
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Your brain and hands are used to the Nexus 6 size quite fast and after that there is no going back to a 5-5,5 inch screen imo. Besides the camera and fingerprint scanner the N6 is superior to the 5X , especialy the speakers are much better and i think the screen is very good.
gee2012 said:
Your brain and hands are used to the Nexus 6 size quite fast and after that there is no going back to a 5-5,5 inch screen imo. Besides the camera and fingerprint scanner the N6 is superior to the 5X , especialy the speakers are much better and i think the screen is very good.
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Is the camera that bad ?
biascoblix said:
Is the camera that bad ?
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With sufficient lighting the pics by the N6 are oke to good, the 5X`s camera is a bit better with low light conditions but not dramaticaly afaik.
OK, Thanks for your help guys..
biascoblix said:
Is the camera that bad ?
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Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
triguyrn said:
Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
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I'm not a huge camera guy anyway. I'm more of heavy user though and somehow a gamer... I think the camera in general is more than decent, right ?
and the face that It has OIS is a huge plus for me, both 6P and 5X cameras are horrible in videos in term of shackiness
biascoblix said:
I'm not a huge camera guy anyway. I'm more of heavy user though and somehow a gamer... I think the camera in general is more than decent, right ?
and the face that It has OIS is a huge plus for me, both 6P and 5X cameras are horrible in videos in term of shackiness
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yeah, it's acceptable. The issue that I have is the camera simply not letting enough light in in those dark situations. It's workable though, and in adequate lighting with HDR and OIS it makes it a good shooter. I absolutely love this phone and actually just ordered a replacement.It is going to have update support for a while and is a beastly device.
triguyrn said:
yeah, it's acceptable. The issue that I have is the camera simply not letting enough light in in those dark situations. It's workable though, and in adequate lighting with HDR and OIS it makes it a good shooter. I absolutely love this phone and actually just ordered a replacement.It is going to have update support for a while and is a beastly device.
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Yea, I'm already getting ready to order it....
Can't wait to get my hands on it
triguyrn said:
Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
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lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
simms22 said:
lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
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Your photos do look great....
I've seen enough already... The Nexus 6 Camera with a Manual Camera app does take amazing photos...
coming from nexus 5, the N6 went for as little as 250 USD on amazon during the week after black Friday. I got it for 289$. Camera is good for a smartphone camera. the new camera app is much faster on everything. timely updates from Google or XDA. I would choose 5x because its a plastic LG anyway. if night pics and fingerprint are a must, you have other choices better then 5x at that base price.
the only con of N6 is dimensions, and that only your hands will complain. but your eyes will thank you. Also, as mentioned, there is no going back from 6 inch screen.
I haven't had my hands on the 5x or the 6p. I did come from the HTC One Max (after being my dd, the LCD died suddenly and so did the charge port). Bought a HTC One M7 as a replacement. Took time readjusting to a more common screen size. Then upgraded to the N6. I couldn't be happier. Plus, I've always been a Motorola fanboy. I came from an iPhone 4 and switched to a Droid 4. I like the feel of N6 and the ease of unlocking the BL and rooting. I actually have mine underclocked to 2.2ghz with custom hotplugging that uses only 2 cores most of time unless under heavy load. Camera is nice. It's not the best out there, but you can't argue with 13mp shooter. I installed the M9 camera apk and it works nicely as well. Only thing that will draw me away from the N6 in future years will be something of higher caliber that INCLUDES Expandable SD.
Did I mention the incredible battery life I get?
simms22 said:
lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
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Well, the majority of my photography takes place on Snapchat which has no manual mode and fairly poor Android support so, my experience has been different then yours. You have proved to me though if you use manual settings and put a little effort in, the nexus 6 can take pretty nice outdoor shots that are not horrendous. I'm sorry.

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