[Q] too much ram usage even when no app is open - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi everyone! i hav been using galaxy note 1 fr about a yr now.earlier on ics i had tsf shell as my launcher n d fone worked pretty smooth even widout
rooting. but since i hav updated to GB d phone is wrkin lyk total garbage. i m using d tw launcher now basically cause i got bored wid tsf shell but d phone just so laggy dat its irritating. even small apps take eternity to open eg camera gallery contacts etc.
the worst is d free ram. even after just restartin i get a ram usage of 600 to 650 mb ram out f 800. i tried to disable most f d samsung useless apps to decrease cached processes but to no avail. m really confused ..pls help me.

DOCQSH said:
hi everyone! i hav been using galaxy note 1 fr about a yr now.earlier on ics i had tsf shell as my launcher n d fone worked pretty smooth even widout
rooting. but since i hav updated to GB d phone is wrkin lyk total garbage. i m using d tw launcher now basically cause i got bored wid tsf shell but d phone just so laggy dat its irritating. even small apps take eternity to open eg camera gallery contacts etc.
the worst is d free ram. even after just restartin i get a ram usage of 600 to 650 mb ram out f 800. i tried to disable most f d samsung useless apps to decrease cached processes but to no avail. m really confused ..pls help me.
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Its perfectly normal operation. Remember, the note was designed for gb, so 2 iterations up its a lot more processor and memory intensive and the note just can't handle it.
If you want to, root and freeze unwanted apps or try a cm based or deodexed rom, but the note is passed it's prime.
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can u tel me if i want to root wat l b d disadvantages n risks? n wat files will i need(latest versions)? thanks..

i've always had this problem and it **** bothers me , you can fix it by removing all unwanted applications , using greenify app and after trying loads of tweaks and roms , i've found out that TW ICS roms have the best ram managing , cm10.1 are great too

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Less free RAM after v20 GB upgrade

Anyone encounter the same issue? Used to have around 180mb before upgrade. Now most times less than
100Mb
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Not less than 100MB but also less than with Froyo.
cheeese said:
Anyone encounter the same issue? Used to have around 180mb before upgrade. Now most times less than
100Mb
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Get a task manager and kill some tasks then, after killing tasks and only excluding stuff i need, eg. messenger app, music ect i get 205mb free ram and never go below 100mb.
I did still?at most 120 only.
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OMG guys, why don't people get this:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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kiljacken said:
OMG guys, why don't people get this:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Because your phone slows down when it gets below 100mb, don't bother arguing that because i know from experience that my o2x slows down and becomes choppy when the free ram goes below 100mb, because there is so much crap stored in memory.
If i need something to run ill run it and leave it there and exclude it from task manager but other wise its no use.
Its also a huge battery drain to have so many apps running that you are not using so that's a pretty stupid statement...."free ram is waste ram" lol wtf...., your battery life must be really long.
As for OP, i suggest you install a better rom, i use topigigis 1.7 rom and after killing a bunch of tasks i get up to 205mb free, altho this gets less the longer it goes without a reboot, so try rebooting and hen killing some useless tasks and see what your ram level is at.
eraldo said:
Because your phone slows down when it gets below 100mb, don't bother arguing that because i know from experience that my o2x slows down and becomes choppy when the free ram goes below 100mb, because there is so much crap stored in memory.
If i need something to run ill run it and leave it there and exclude it from task manager but other wise its no use.
Its also a huge battery drain to have so many apps running that you are not using so that's a pretty stupid statement...."free ram is waste ram" lol wtf...., your battery life must be really long.
As for OP, i suggest you install a better rom, i use topigigis 1.7 rom and after killing a bunch of tasks i get up to 205mb free, altho this gets less the longer it goes without a reboot, so try rebooting and hen killing some useless tasks and see what your ram level is at.
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Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
yupe.. Mine is mostly below 100mb.. 70mb on average. but it's smoother than froyo with 140mb.. list of applications and files are faster to load and smoother.. so i have no complain at all.
I'm also experiencing the lower free memory in the default configuration with GB compared to Froyo. Although I'm not trying to get as much free RAM as possible (because I support the reasons given above for usage of the RAM, having apps in there doesn't mean that they're running) I'm still curious where the missing amount of memory went... Does anybody have any clue what was introduced or changed with GB that could use up about 70MB?
kiljacken said:
Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
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Oh really and what is your logic for thinking having no unused apps running will use more battery than having lads running.....you make no sense an have no logic or fact to back up such a ridiculas assumption.
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kiljacken said:
Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
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Clearly you've been on cm7 so long you forgot how bad stock is..
Stock firmware for my phone was horrible and backgrounding was working for only seconds due to lack of ram, Opera would never background, always a new boot.
Cm7 > stock
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I m on stock v20 ROM. Sometime my fone will b sluggish and it seems like e low RAM is causing it. Also wondering where e RAM went After upgrading.
use supercharger
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
And there's a bug in original stock kernel about memory management, horse power kernels are better for that.
Its not just about the rom your choosing its about the kernel, flash a good kernel and it will improve memory usage.
So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
Thanks
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cheeese said:
So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
Thanks
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Yes most of the time and Yes. Some providers accept phone customization in warranty, ask yours.
If you have v20L you only have Horse Power kernel (Neoblaze seems bootloop) + Power pack 7 (mandatory, orbootloop, see dedicated threads).
If I reflash my phone using one of the original images availabe and reset it, is there any chance for the provider to detect previous flash operations?
Striatum_bdr said:
Yes most of the time and Yes. Some providers accept phone customization in warranty, ask yours.
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cheeese said:
So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
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Befor i flashed hp sr2 i had 70 to 90 mb free ram now i had 130 to 150 free ram and my baterry seems better.
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I'd tend to relate the better battery life to the new kernel than the increased free ram. I'm on RC9 (w. PP7, no init.d-scripts) and my LGOS reaches almost two days of battery standby with ~50-60MB free RAM.
luka2858 said:
Befor i flashed hp sr2 i had 70 to 90 mb free ram now i had 130 to 150 free ram and my baterry seems better.
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Please help me, I'm confused

MY LG 4x HD have some lags in the game, not in hard core games , than poor games. It is for such a powerful phone very strange, and he has 1 GB of RAM , but for me is free just 300MB ... this is normal or what?
AW: Please help me, I'm confused
Go back to ICS.
On ICS I was having 400-600 Mb free.
But all games in this time consumed maximum 170Mb (Shadowgun THD)
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Nemeziz 56th said:
Go back to ICS.
On ICS I was having 400-600 Mb free.
But all games in this time consumed maximum 170Mb (Shadowgun THD)
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I understand you.. When I bin on ICS , I have about 400MB ram...But I have lags on poor games and on ICS and know on JB...This are not big lags, bus every 2-3 min playing , lags me on secund, and further is all ok..sorry on my bed english...im from cro
someone told " free RAM is wasted RAM " and this is true ....
games lags because bad LG SW, thats all...
mmm273 said:
someone told " free RAM is wasted RAM " and this is true ....
games lags because bad LG SW, thats all...
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Yep, you are correct, free ram means nothing on linux based OS such as android. Best gaming roms currently are ICS v10d and JB v20b, they run games the best because the overheat protection is not as aggressive, but don't worry your phone won't cook
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i ran all games on v10H without problems of lag.what can make the issue appear or worse is running so many apps in the background,not all apps are made with good capabilitlys of being low on resources while in the background,remember launchers ect are still running while your gaming,they are still taking up resources even though its not on your screen
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i ran all games on v10H without problems of lag.what can make the issue appear or worse is running so many apps in the background,not all apps are made with good capabilitlys of being low on resources while in the background,remember launchers ect are still running while your gaming,they are still taking up resources even though its not on your screen
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Which games? Only certain ones were affected
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[Q] facebook using too much ram

Facebook.apk using too much ram.
When i start facebook it uses appox 40 mb ram but aftr few minutes it reches on 90 mb ram. an older version was using 20 mb ram but latest facebook browser using high amount of ram. I dont like opera mini for facebook.
Is there any way to reduce ram usage of facebook and many other game too. Because our ace has only 278 mb ram.
Should i flash difrent kernal or rom for reducing ram usage of applications.
From galaxy ace stock gb rooted.
arshad522 said:
Facebook.apk using too much ram.
When i start facebook it uses appox 40 mb ram but aftr few minutes it reches on 90 mb ram. an older version was using 20 mb ram but latest facebook browser using high amount of ram. I dont like opera mini for facebook.
Is there any way to reduce ram usage of facebook and many other game too. Because our ace has only 278 mb ram.
Should i flash difrent kernal or rom for reducing ram usage of applications.
From galaxy ace stock gb rooted.
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No, one day apps will use 2Gb to send a simple text message xDDD
It's ridiculous but true, new updates eat our RAM and there is no solution because old app versions doesn't work in several cases as What'sapp
PD: New tecnologies and software force you to buy a new device
Viper The Ripper said:
No, one day apps will use 2Gb to send a simple text message xDDD
It's ridiculous but true, new updates eat our RAM and there is no solution because old app versions doesn't work in several cases as What'sapp
PD: New tecnologies and software force you to buy a new device
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okk u r right
but if i flash a new latest kernal or rom will this help me a little bit. becoz im using an old gb rom.
Install an older version of facebook if you're not comfortable with so much high usage of ram. No matter wich rom or kernel you run on, depends only on the app so is useless change them.
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MeltingSnowman said:
Install an older version of facebook if you're not comfortable with so much high usage of ram. No matter wich rom or kernel you run on, depends only on the app so is useless change them.
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okk
old version of facebook had less function but latest one is better thats why i cant change it.
seems no solution for me
anyway thnks
arshad522 said:
okk
old version of facebook had less function but latest one is better thats why i cant change it.
seems no solution for me
anyway thnks
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see my max ram uses

Ram ?

Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.
moneyvirus said:
why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.
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Because it's frustrating to close apps\clean ram all the time. it would be nice to have about 50-100mb for extra free ram.
yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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that's it
moneyvirus told you right...
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Free RAM is wasted RAM... RAM is way faster that the usual storage. That's why the system preloads as many apps as possible, to start up directly, without loading too long. So, the more used RAM you have, the better. Linux is not Windows. Windows is known for its bad RAM management.
Also, 300Mb is quite a lot BTW regarding 1GB total RAM. Killing apps to "safe" memory is the worst thing you can do. Let the system decide what's needed and what's not.
Also, Questions belong into the Q&A section. Thread moved.
my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.
kessaras said:
my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.
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You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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jasin91 said:
You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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where do u see speedboost when you clean ram in android ? Really ?
the only case this can happen is only if u play for example one of my favorites : dungeon hunter 4 and forget to close the app. At least for some time until the os decides that ok u just forgot it there and close it , u have a decrease of fps at your phone ... eh ok if u forget to push the little button to close an app that needs a big amount of resources, then the task manager is usefull. The apps are apps. There are also 10 different apps to sync google contacs but why use them if google contacts are syncing by default if u dont close the sync ?
lol thanks now i understand
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this is normal with 4.1.2, I checked a Iconia tab with 4.1.1 and used less ram, V4.1.2 doesnt manage right the ram... try to rollback to 4.0.3 v10f or search a CM10.1 or custom rom which uses less ram :laugh:
no need more ram if you want more use swapp

[Q] how to increase s advance ram by swap partion?

Hi iam new here
I have s advance with android 4.1.2 stock rom and with cocore e 6.2 kernal
The problem is I like playing games on my phone like asphalt 8 but sometimes it lags and
Crash because of low free ram , the used ram is about 515 . So I heard about a method to increase
Ram capacity by swap partion . So I was wondring if this method works on my phone ? and will it
Make Games run faster and wont make any problems to the phone ?
Please respond
Thanx
AFAIK those things are for phones with only 512 MB (or less) RAM.. I also heard that using your external SD card as ram for long time can damage it. But I don't know if that's true...
Like many other latest games, Asphalt 8 is a very "heavy" game.. so it requires newer and better hardware.. our phone's GPU can't handle this game with ease so that's why it lags... so its not only because of RAM, its also because of the GPU and CPU.. so I don't think it will make any drastic increase in performance or fps..
Take a look at CoCore's thread.. I think Cocafe mentioned how to use zRam and Swap using init.d scripts..
PS: Use a good Custom ROM with the latest version of CoCore kernel.. version 6.2 is quite old.. or use CM ROMs...
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Sami Kabir said:
AFAIK those things are for phones with only 512 MB (or less) RAM.. I also heard that using your external SD card as ram for long time can damage it. But I don't know if that's true...
Like many other latest games, Asphalt 8 is a very "heavy" game.. so it requires newer and better hardware.. our phone's GPU can't handle this game with ease so that's why it lags... so its not only because of RAM, its also because of the GPU and CPU.. so I don't think it will make any drastic increase in performance or fps..
Take a look at CoCore's thread.. I think Cocafe mentioned how to use zRam and Swap using init.d scripts..
PS: Use a good Custom ROM with the latest version of CoCore kernel.. version 6.2 is quite old.. or use CM ROMs...
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Thanks for replaying . not only asphalt 8 lags but also some other games like sonic dash and temple run ..etc
And I downloaded and installed cocore e 8 it made my battry runs out fast so installed cocore 6.2 which saves battry .
And idont know alot about custom roms but you may tell me the best one and has no bugs .
CM 10.2 latest build is very good. Extremely stable. Battery is decent, still less than satisfactory. No bugs AFAIK . No random reboots. No force closes. Games that work very smoothly - temple run (all versions),subway surfers, dead trigger 1 & 2 ,GTA vice city.
Asphalt 8 lags when started but settles down afterwards and works decently.
P.S. - Don't judge your phone performance on basis of used RAM. Jelly bean is supposed to use more RAM.
Hope I helped.
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