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[Q] Need advice on picking a rom

Hi there, long time lurker first time poster here.
I have an AT&T branded galaxy captivate that I rooted and unlocked. I've been happy enough with it, but I'm still running froyo here, and I have been thinking about an update to 4.x
I see many options out there in the way of roms, and I am confident enough in updating the phone, I've done other phones both android and ios for friends and customers (I'm a computer tech)
But now that I have decided to commit to an upgrade, I'm feeling a little conflicted on what rom to pick. They all have their points, but since I litterally use mine for the phone function, and a few games and barely for work reasons (my professional apps only include a wifi scanner, dell service tag lookup, and a few other little techie apps) I really just don't know what to pick.
So if you folks would be so kind as to share opinions, perhaps recommend a rom, and perhaps let me know what kind of experience you had with the particular one you installed, I would be very grateful.
Oh, and I don't know if the phone will be unlocked after the update or not, I wasn't quite clear on that, so if somoene would be kind enough to let me know on that point as well it would be nice. I have it unlocked so when I pop outside the country I can just grab a cheap pre paid sim off the shelf in whatever country I visit and use that for local calls while I'm there. Saves a ton on the bill since it seems like NO ONE in the US provides decent rates for calling while out in the world. I just drop my original sim back in when I come home, or if I need to call back home while out I just eat the charge.
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Which 4.x captivate rom do you prefer and why?

Gorbashsan said:
Hi there, long time lurker first time poster here.
I have an AT&T branded galaxy captivate that I rooted and unlocked. I've been happy enough with it, but I'm still running froyo here, and I have been thinking about an update to 4.x
I see many options out there in the way of roms, and I am confident enough in updating the phone, I've done other phones both android and ios for friends and customers (I'm a computer tech)
But now that I have decided to commit to an upgrade, I'm feeling a little conflicted on what rom to pick. They all have their points, but since I litterally use mine for the phone function, and a few games and barely for work reasons (my professional apps only include a wifi scanner, dell service tag lookup, and a few other little techie apps) I really just don't know what to pick.
So if you folks would be so kind as to share opinions, perhaps recommend a rom, and perhaps let me know what kind of experience you had with the particular one you installed, I would be very grateful.
Oh, and I don't know if the phone will be unlocked after the update or not, I wasn't quite clear on that, so if somoene would be kind enough to let me know on that point as well it would be nice. I have it unlocked so when I pop outside the country I can just grab a cheap pre paid sim off the shelf in whatever country I visit and use that for local calls while I'm there. Saves a ton on the bill since it seems like NO ONE in the US provides decent rates for calling while out in the world. I just drop my original sim back in when I come home, or if I need to call back home while out I just eat the charge.
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Which 4.x captivate rom do you prefer and why?
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I've been using CyanogenMod since version 7, and I like it pretty well. 10.1 is very clean, based on Jelly Bean 4.2, and it has few flaws. It's my daily driver. Having said that, I've also used other Gingerbread ROMs like Andromeda and other JB ROMs like Captivating. Each one has its pluses and minuses. The best thing you can do is read user reviews, do some research, and pick one that works for you. As far as unlocking, I have no expedited with that, but my guess would be that that's a function of the SIM card and the hardware, so I would guess once unlocked, always unlocked. But hopefully someone smarter than I am in that area will correct me if I'm wrong.

falcon7204 said:
I've been using CyanogenMod since version 7, and I like it pretty well. 10.1 is very clean, based on Jelly Bean 4.2, and it has few flaws. It's my daily driver. Having said that, I've also used other Gingerbread ROMs like Andromeda and other JB ROMs like Captivating. Each one has its pluses and minuses. The best thing you can do is read user reviews, do some research, and pick one that works for you. As far as unlocking, I have no expedited with that, but my guess would be that that's a function of the SIM card and the hardware, so I would guess once unlocked, always unlocked. But hopefully someone smarter than I am in that area will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for that falcon, I appreciate the reply.
I have seen reviews of pros and cons in various threads, but they are all mainly focused on the rom being discussed in that theread, what I was hoping to get was a kind of comparison of opinions between the various choices here. CyanogenMod was one I looked over, but the bugs made me hesitate, I'd prefer slightly more stability than what it currently offers, though once the next revision hits I will see how many of those bugs are fixed and wait to see if new ones crop up, and if it seems decent (no data loss or phone freeze bugs left) I will likely give it a try, but for now, I'll play with something else a bit more stable and see how it goes.
Thanks again for the input!
EDIT:
Well, while I was waiting I decided I would flash a few roms and see how they ran on the phone one after another, after getting that status 7 error on captivating, hellybean, slimbean, and cyanogen, I finally got LaNight to instal, sooooo I guess unless someone can tell me why the others are all coming up staus 7 and failing, I'm going with LaNight found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003346
Odd, I checked the md5 on all the files, followed the directions on each install, tried them all from speedmod as well, tried restoring back to stock firmware and re doing speedmod with odin and still all but LaNight fail with a status 7 and abort.
Strange indeed.
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Gorbashsan said:
Thanks for that falcon, I appreciate the reply.
I have seen reviews of pros and cons in various threads, but they are all mainly focused on the rom being discussed in that theread, what I was hoping to get was a kind of comparison of opinions between the various choices here. CyanogenMod was one I looked over, but the bugs made me hesitate, I'd prefer slightly more stability than what it currently offers, though once the next revision hits I will see how many of those bugs are fixed and wait to see if new ones crop up, and if it seems decent (no data loss or phone freeze bugs left) I will likely give it a try, but for now, I'll play with something else a bit more stable and see how it goes.
Thanks again for the input!
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Well, while I was waiting I decided I would flash a few roms and see how they ran on the phone one after another, after getting that status 7 error on captivating, hellybean, slimbean, and cyanogen, I finally got LaNight to instal, sooooo I guess unless someone can tell me why the others are all coming up staus 7 and failing, I'm going with LaNight found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003346
Odd, I checked the md5 on all the files, followed the directions on each install, tried them all from speedmod as well, tried restoring back to stock firmware and re doing speedmod with odin and still all but LaNight fail with a status 7 and abort.
Strange indeed.
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Have you tried getting corn kernel instead of speedmod? That might fix your status 7 error.
Also, when flashing a JB ROM, you'll have top flash them twice as it repartitions the first time.
And when it comes to stability, AoCP and AOKP are my fav but I heard a lot of good things about other ROMs as well (like captivating).
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BWolf56 said:
Have you tried getting corn kernel instead of speedmod? That might fix your status 7 error.
Also, when flashing a JB ROM, you'll have top flash them twice as it repartitions the first time.
And when it comes to stability, AoCP and AOKP are my fav but I heard a lot of good things about other ROMs as well (like captivating).
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I shall have to try that since it seems LaNight wont allow my phone to connect to the mobile network, it keeps telling me "error when searching for network" when I try to connect to it after popping in my new sim card. I just went down to swap back to AT&T since I'm switching to gophone now that my contract is up with verizon.

Gorbashsan said:
I shall have to try that since it seems LaNight wont allow my phone to connect to the mobile network, it keeps telling me "error when searching for network" when I try to connect to it after popping in my new sim card. I just went down to swap back to AT&T since I'm switching to gophone now that my contract is up with verizon.
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3 things can cause this, you IMEI is wrong; APN is wrong or you need another modem.

Is there really any need to flash a custom Rom on the One?

Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.

dr9722 said:
Firstly, please don't get me wrong here. Im not trolling in the slightest and I really appreciate all the work the devs do here.
With the HTC One having such high specs is there really any need to flash custom Roms? In my opinion all of them seem the same and don't look or feel any different to the stock rom on the One. The only benefit I can see is for Root access.
Im sure there is a lot of "under the hood" tweaks that are done but are these really noticeable or beneficial to the end user? Other peoples thoughts would be interesting.
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Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.

Livebyte said:
Actually yes, I wish to get CM working fully on HTC One.
It gives us an alternate experience than what HTC wanted us to.
Best of all, you don't have to wait so long for HTC to update their phones.
Especially when they abandon the One, we rely on CM.
But I'm really hoping for the success of the One, nobody could resist the look and feel of the One.
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I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?

dr9722 said:
I totally agree the updates and the benefit of getting rid on Sense if you dont like it is a real benefit. But is there a need for multiple Sense custom roms?
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That's subjective I guess. But for something like example HTC DROID DNA or Butterfly, Sense 5 gets ported before HTC did. So I guess it's also a huge benefit.

Earlier updates is the main reason why I will be rooting, these phone networks take ages to update it's unavailable!!
Also there are some very nice skinned roms out there

I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?

m00moo said:
I won't be unlocking my bootloader for a while. Not until I am at least sure that my device is working 100% and that will take a couple of weeks. I was eager to root it etc but I was reading about HTC's warranty and it seems as though it is a very long winded process. Maybe you wish to do the same?
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yep ill be in no hurry either.
when i finally get a device im happy with yea i will root and flash custom rom, but not CM - Sense 5 is great and IMO is much better than stock JB - there are a few minor things I would like added, but I have no doubt they will be added to custom sense 5 roms in due course.

to me, there is no point in being a flashaholic. flash the latest stable base, and then keep up with custom kernels for battery.
thats me, idk bout u guys

Personally something that will push me over the unlock bootloader line is when either when A) IF the HTC logo can become mapped as a button, or B) A full relock becomes available lol

For me, absolutely. I consider some features (such as long press vol key to skip tracks) essential. There are also always some visual things I like to change no matter how well it is made

I just need root to enable volume key wake, and ill want to remap the keys. Everything else looks flawless
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do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?

ChazyChaz said:
do you need root etc. to install flash on ONE ?
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No. To my knowledge, the built in browser has flash support.

What about Wi-Fi hotspot support?
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While there's obviously no NEED, a lot of people will prefer to flash ROMs for a variety of different reasons.
I'd say the main reasons are;
*The ability to have a pure AOSP look which is preferred by a lot of people (especially those who come from a Nexus device). Also, a lot of people don't like the look/feel of Sense and will therefore want to change the UI to something which is more preferable to them.
I, for example, have never tried Sense before and could quite possibly hate it once I finally test it. On the flip side of that, I may love it but at least custom ROMs will give me the ability to completely change the UI whilst giving me a ton more customizations and optimizations than a custom launcher would do.
*As mentioned at the end of the first reason, customization is a huge part of what a lot of people do with their devices. For example, when I had my SGS2 I used to love the ability to flash a simple ROM and have a ton of customization at my fingertips, so I could edit the look of my phone to my hearts content.
*Some people are simply flashaholics and have ORD (Obsessive ROM-flashing/updating Disorder). I'll normally flash every ROM in sight if the device is new and there aren't many ROMs available yet. This way it gives me a good early decision as to what type of ROM I'd prefer on said device. However, once the device starts getting more development and more ROMs start appearing in quick succession, I'll then make my mind up about which ROM to choose and generally won't change ROM for the vast majority of the devices lifetime.
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I unlocked, rooted and flashed now because in a few months time the phone will be setup perfectly; all the right apps, all the right data, all in the right place (and HTC might of discovered a way to do a Sensation on us (S-Off))
With the phone rooted I can be relatively confident of getting it back to my currently backed up state after any major updates (and, when I finally install some games, get their progress restored as well)
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Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.

Because HTC makes great hardware. I buy HTC exclusively, but I rip sense off it ASAP and put AOKP or CM or something without sense. Nexus devices are generally not top of the line hardware, they're supposed to be a benchmark for development (i.e. midrange). That said, N4 has more impressive specs than usual, but I can't imagine buying an LG phone. I have never realized LG even made smartphones, only flip phones until the N4 was released.
Still, HTC makes best hardware, I just generally don't like sense. That said, sense 5 does look interesting.
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Having options is nice!
Dharkan said:
Sense means HTC. I don't see any reason to buy HTC if I'm not gonna use sense.
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To a certain extent, yes, I agree with you on that statement. However, sometimes you just need a change and it is nice to have the option of running AOSP roms as well. I would much rather go back and forth between Sense/AOSP than TouchWiz/AOSP after having my GS3.

No. Roms are for old devices. Lol
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ROMs ?

Are people working on ROMs for this phone? I only ask because I make the plunge Friday and I recently realized how amazing this phone is. I have tiny hands.. so... I'm souped. But I'm not sure if it will get 4.2.2, or 4.3 or 5.0 or whatever next Android version comes out. And also, I love what Paranoid Android has been putting out. Just wondering if things like that are happening behind the scenes. Didn't see any other threads or posts about it.

I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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nuclear_eclipse said:
I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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Having a RUU available in case something goes haywire definitely helps too. A lot of people don't want to change the firmware dramatically just yet if they don't have the ability to roll it back to factory.

nuclear_eclipse said:
I would assume that once HTC releases the kernel source code, this phone will receive similar love as many other photos do. I will personally do my best to ensure that CyanogenMod becomes available for it if no one else steps up to take care of it. The fact that it ships with stock Android can only make that task easier.
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This is true. I'm gonna guess the RUU should be released soon? The One's RUU was just released This makes my decision a little bit more difficult but in the best way cause now I could get this phone and not be too upset since it should get upgraded at this rate. Much love guys. Thanks. Been itching for an android device with great battery that fits in my hand.

TRF-Inferno said:
Having a RUU available in case something goes haywire definitely helps too. A lot of people don't want to change the firmware dramatically just yet if they don't have the ability to roll it back to factory.
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Wouldn't a nandroid backup be more than enough to allow users to roll back to stock if they choose to? Or are you talking about something more than that?

nuclear_eclipse said:
Wouldn't a nandroid backup be more than enough to allow users to roll back to stock if they choose to? Or are you talking about something more than that?
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A RUU would completely revert everything back to stock -- bootloader, recovery, system, radio, etc.

i played with one of these when i got my One
we could probably get a sense 4+ or sense 5 port going on it
i wish i had one to screw with

Zarboz said:
i played with one of these when i got my One
we could probably get a sense 4+ or sense 5 port going on it
i wish i had one to screw with
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Lol that would be counterproductive. I think one of the reasons people like the first is because it DOES NOT have Sense!
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phositadc said:
Lol that would be counterproductive. I think one of the reasons people like the first is because it DOES NOT have Sense!
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lol yeah
idk how hard it would be to get AOSP builds going on this either
i assume easy since most the stuff is aosp already

To root or not

Right seems like a silly post at first but here me out. First off Im new to HTC but not to rooting I've had the a load of rooted phone and tablets. My concern is loosing warranty when unlocking with HTC dev this has never been a problem on my previous devices. What are your thoughts on this matter?

Root but you will lose warranty to be honest if your only rooting for better performance than theirs no point as the performance of the One is brilliant.
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I want to root to allow me to fully theme my device. I create a lot of themes most of which need root and also would like to run a non sense ROM whenever stable releases come out

aliHTCDHD said:
Root but you will lose warranty to be honest if your only rooting for better performance than theirs no point as the performance of the One is brilliant.
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Root it. I had no problem taking my rooted phone into at&t to get it replaced/fixed. However, I was turned off by rooting as my first rooted phone was the samsung galaxy. Thing sucked. Got the HTC Vivid, One X, One X+ (all unrooted, no real reason to), then got the One and rooted it. Getting rid of all of at&t's and HTC's bloatware were the main reasons.

only reason why i rooted is to get rid of all that nasty att bloat, and to have all ads removed, the phone stock is amazing.

Just do it
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snowwhite007 said:
Right seems like a silly post at first but here me out. First off Im new to HTC but not to rooting I've had the a load of rooted phone and tablets. My concern is loosing warranty when unlocking with HTC dev this has never been a problem on my previous devices. What are your thoughts on this matter?
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DON'T Root if you don't feel comfortable losing your warranty.

You don't lose your warranty with rooting!
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.nl/2013/03/unlocking-bootloader-or-flashing-custom.html?m=1
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If you really wanna do some modifications on your One, just root it and take care.

Root it, there's never been problems with me getting phones repaired when rooted, just make sure you remove the custom ROM
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Root 4 ever ...
When i get new phone i say i will not rooted but afther a while (max 2 days) the phone is rooted with custom rom

This is maybe my first device that I haven't rooted from day one of ownership. Currently running it unrooted a week since I got it and I am planning to keep it this way for quite a while.
Ads are pretty annoying in some apps but this is not a reason to root it.

I'm not rooting, at least not anytime soon. I rooted my One X+, which also required unlocking the bootloader. A couple of months later, my display stopped working consistently, but HTC refused my warranty (despite what the earlier post suggests) on the grounds of unauthorized software or something like that. On the bright side, I have the One now.

snowwhite007 said:
Right seems like a silly post at first but here me out. First off Im new to HTC but not to rooting I've had the a load of rooted phone and tablets. My concern is loosing warranty when unlocking with HTC dev this has never been a problem on my previous devices. What are your thoughts on this matter?
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I rooted to get batt% and the ability to uninstall apps i dont use wich leads to better battery life.
I've exchanged 3 one's while being unlocked thrue htc dev.
If theres a problem flash a stock ruu and recovery and see if the problem persists.
If so the device is running there software so its a fault of the device, when the device is looking like new(no scratches or dents or whatever) they will fix it:thumbup:
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I rooted to get batt% and the ability to uninstall apps i dont use wich leads to better battery life.
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Which route did you take to get the percentage? I'm thinking of removing the stock battery indicator altogether and relying on go power master

Last year I rooted my Sprint HTC LTE and lost the ability to watch live TV with the Time Warner app, does anyone know if this will still be the case with the HTC One?

gakzilla said:
Which route did you take to get the percentage? I'm thinking of removing the stock battery indicator altogether and relying on go power master
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I went to flash arhd,
Stock rom with minor changes like % batterie choosable thrue aroma installer .
Removing the images would be possible but youll keep a gapp at the batteries place unless you change smali wich is difficult
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got it, thank you

snowwhite007 said:
Right seems like a silly post at first but here me out. First off Im new to HTC but not to rooting I've had the a load of rooted phone and tablets. My concern is loosing warranty when unlocking with HTC dev this has never been a problem on my previous devices. What are your thoughts on this matter?
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Root it. For warranty stuff the reps don't even look.

gianton said:
This is maybe my first device that I haven't rooted from day one of ownership. Currently running it unrooted a week since I got it and I am planning to keep it this way for quite a while.
Ads are pretty annoying in some apps but this is not a reason to root it.
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The phone is fast I felt the same way..I rooted it because I hate the 3 dots and to get camera update.. The ability to flash latest ota was reason enough for me.I have kept my rom stock much faster imo and the battery life is good...gunna flash a new update later tonight
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Waiting for the 4.2.2 release to flash a custom ROM?

Is anybody else waiting for HTC to release the 4.2.2 base and seeing what the devs do with it before flashing a custom ROM? I've had my One for about 2 weeks now and it's still unrooted and running the stock ROM (this is the longest I've gone so far).
Just wondering if I'm alone in thinking that the devs will come up with better ROMs based on 4.2 than they currently have out for 4.1

Other than quick toggles, I didn't see many stand out features vin the preview.
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4.2 isn't a huge step forward. There really is no point in waiting to root and unlock. It's still 'JellyBean' with a few extra features so the difference will be minimal, but I'm anxious for those quick settings myself. I'd say root and S-Off now to get it over with so you can flash immediately when 4.2 comes out.

I was going to wait too. But I got my phone two days ago and ended up flashing two days ago as well...
-flashaddict
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Not to sound like a lame-o but this is the first phone I've owned where I didn't feel the need to root it. Though I had similar feelings with my Epic 4G Touch a few years ago and ended up flashing probably 50 different ROMS, give or take.

adam.kelly2 said:
Not to sound like a lame-o but this is the first phone I've owned where I didn't feel the need to root it. Though I had similar feelings with my Epic 4G Touch a few years ago and ended up flashing probably 50 different ROMS, give or take.
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I feel the same way, I've never gone this long without rooting a phone/tablet, it's usually a week at most.

This is the same boat I am in. I am not doing any of the over the air updates so it will be easier to root when it gets to that point. I am actually quite impressed with the phone (coming from the Evo 4g), I've actually thought about keeping this thing stock...then I remember that it will only get faster if I root and flash.

Yup, stock and not rooted. Waiting for the 4.2.2 and hopefully a working flashable rom of the Google Edition One with everything stable. I really want lockscreen widgets. This is the first phone where I'm not willing to sacrifice the stability of the phone, because sense 5 is pretty damn good. I'd definitely prefer an equally stable AOSP rom though.

D3luSi0n4L said:
Yup, stock and not rooted. Waiting for the 4.2.2 and hopefully a working flashable rom of the Google Edition One with everything stable. I really want lockscreen widgets. This is the first phone where I'm not willing to sacrifice the stability of the phone, because sense 5 is pretty damn good. I'd definitely prefer an equally stable AOSP rom though.
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Same here. I hope these awesome devs get the Google edition roms on here quick!
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mite be trading my s4 for the htc one real soon!! did u guys get the 4.2.2. update yet or still waiting?

P.Mobile said:
mite be trading my s4 for the htc one real soon!! did u guys get the 4.2.2. update yet or still waiting?
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Well.... if you look at some posts here from yesterday (2 posts up ) you will see the statement.... " Waiting for the 4.2.2 "

I waited a few weeks and started thinking that HTC dev unlock will wipe the device so I might as well get started. That and the process will be quicker once Sprint releases and development starts working to fix any of the unintended features on the new release.
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