Nobody's really talking about the Verizon edition. Any developers out there with phone in hand yet?
More than likely whatever will work for the AT&T variety will also work on the VZW one, but since more people have the AT&T one already, it has more chance of getting it first.
linuxgator said:
More than likely whatever will work for the AT&T variety will also work on the VZW one, but since more people have the AT&T one already, it has more chance of getting it first.
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I wonder if that's true. The AT&T One is unlocked, but there is a multi-thousand dollar bounty for the Verizon version. I think the S4 is up to $4k on verizon and also unlocked on AT&T.
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I wonder if that's true. The AT&T One is unlocked, but there is a multi-thousand dollar bounty for the Verizon version. I think the S4 is up to $4k on verizon and also unlocked on AT&T.
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huh?
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huh?
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Maybe read it again, more slowly this time? :good::highfive:
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Maybe read it again, more slowly this time? :good::highfive:
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More than likely whatever will work for the AT&T variety will also work on the VZW one, but since more people have the AT&T one already, it has more chance of
How can you wonder if that's true? AT&T bootloader is not unlocked by the way, also what does the S4 have to do with the MOTO X? That's why I Huh?
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More than likely whatever will work for the AT&T variety will also work on the VZW one, but since more people have the AT&T one already, it has more chance of
How can you wonder if that's true? AT&T bootloader is not unlocked by the way, also what does the S4 have to do with the MOTO X? That's why I Huh?
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Ok, again...The AT&T version of the HTC One is unlocked and exploited, but the Verizon version is not.
The Samsung S4 is unlocked and rooted on AT&T, but the Verizon S4 is not, and the bounty on that is over $4k now...if it were so easy to unlock a Verizon model when you can unlock another carrier model, I'm sure someone would have claimed the bounty by now.
So, again, I said I'm not sure if the exploit for the AT&T X will work on the Verizon X, and the same people will not be working on both versions, more than likely, they'll be working on carrier specific models...which is why I said I wonder if that will hold true.
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Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
HwlHwl said:
Hi there!
I am looking to get a Moto X to be used with any GSM carrier in the US and Europe.
(I don't want to root it)
Do I need to buy the Developer Edition or can I also get the No-Contract T-Mobile one (customizable via motomaker)?
Thanks in advance!
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They're the exact same phone x1053, make sure the LTE bands are correct for the carriers you want to use (5 and 7 are x1058 only)
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The T-mobile is unlocked and good to go, no need to buy the developer edition.
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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Are you absolutely sure about this? Do you know it for a fact, or have you just read it somewhere?
I contacted Motorola today, to verify that the t-mobile off-contract version indeed was sim-unlocked, but they replied that it WAS sim-locked, and also was carrying the t-mobile logo on the back.
I think it's really hard to figure out who to believe, since many are reporting that it comes sim-unlocked, but wouldn't Motorola be the one to know for sure?
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I can't verify whether it's SIM locked or not but I have one in my hand and the T-Mobile XT1053 does not have any branding on it. There is no logo on it. There are no T-Mo apps on it either.
It's unlocked. Using it with prepaid at&t.
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I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
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I'm looking to get a non contract moto X but am confused by all the versions. For instance, Republic sells it for $299.
https://republicwireless.com/phones/moto-x
Is that the same moto X sold for $349 on cyber Wednesday and Saturday at
http://www.motorola.com/us/motorola-shop-all/motorola-shop-all-sale.html
If different, what's the difference?
(**I need to be able to root the phone).
Thanks
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Republic wireless phone only works with republic wireless.
Start with your carrier then go from there. If GSM and you NEED root i suggest t-mobile or dev edition so u can unlock bootloader and always guarantee root.
What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
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then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. .
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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Sorry for jacking the thread... but does the T-mo version work on AT&T LTE?
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What carrier are you on? As the other guy said, if you have a GSM carrier (AT&T, tmobile, other mvno's of those carriers), then go with the tmobile version. You CAN unlock the bootloader and root it, and it comes sim unlocked so you can use it on att/whatever other gsm carrier you want. If you have verizon, then get the CDMA dev edition.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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I want it as a non contract phone. Currently I'm on straighttalk and they have a system where you buy a sim from them. But I may go elsewhere. I'm debating between a moto X or a nexus 5.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Then get a tmobile version. Sim and bootloader unlocked, so you can use it on straigttalk or att or any of those other mvno's.
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating questions, but I'm not from the US.
So I'm not too familiar with mobile phones being locked and sim locked and things like these.
My question is, I'm thinking of bringing a Moto X into Singapore for my daily use.
Just wondering, according to all the above comments, I should bring in a T-Mobile version instead since sim and bootloader is not locked to any carrier?
And I got one more question
All these different carrier version, the radios are the same? or do they all differ slightly? I'm asking because in Singapore, I think the radios here are a little different from the US
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The radios all differ slightly. And yes, you should get the tmobile one since it's sim unlocked. I don't know the bands of your carrier, so you might have to look it up and compare it with the US bands.
Ok just checked. Seems like only 3G will work in Singapore. LTE here is band 3 and 7. whereas T-mobile seems to be just on band 4.
So, I am wanting to get the S5, but I am tired of all the AT7T bloatware that comes on these phones. Plus, being in the military, prefer unlocked phones. So, what are my choices here. Where can I get an unlocked S5 that will fully work on the AT7T network?
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So, I am wanting to get the S5, but I am tired of all the AT7T bloatware that comes on these phones. Plus, being in the military, prefer unlocked phones. So, what are my choices here. Where can I get an unlocked S5 that will fully work on the AT7T network?
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The closest you could get is a TMO branded S5 which ships BL Unlocked (at least initial shipments) a few bands may not work though depending on the TMO radio. Also you would need to sim unlock the TMO S5 and buy it outright which I believe is 660.
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The closest you could get is a TMO branded S5 which ships BL Unlocked (at least initial shipments) a few bands may not work though depending on the TMO radio. Also you would need to sim unlock the TMO S5 and buy it outright which I believe is 660.
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I was wondering about that. Heard the TMO boot loader is unlocked. Just wasn't sure all bands would work on AT&T.
Att LTE should work hspa+ not sure I haven't looked at tmo specs at length
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Just called Tmobile, and the phones do not come unlocked if I buy at full price? How would I unlock it so it would work with AT&T?
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Just called Tmobile, and the phones do not come unlocked if I buy at full price? How would I unlock it so it would work with AT&T?
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pay a third party site, I've always used cellunlocker.net
djkinetic said:
pay a third party site, I've always used cellunlocker.net
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can i just go into a tmobile store a buy a s5 at full price if i do not have service with them?
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can i just go into a tmobile store a buy a s5 at full price if i do not have service with them?
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yes just say you want to buy it out right with no plan....you might get a rep who doesnt want to sell it though since they get commission on activations...if so just goto another store.
will give it a try tomorrow. thanks.
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yes just say you want to buy it out right with no plan....you might get a rep who doesnt want to sell it though since they get commission on activations...if so just goto another store.
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looking on the site you gave me, it stated that all samsung devices would need to be activated on original carrier first or the phone would be region locked. is this correct?
dustintinsley said:
looking on the site you gave me, it stated that all samsung devices would need to be activated on original carrier first or the phone would be region locked. is this correct?
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ack im not sure, i thought that was a European specific thing, if anything find a friend that has Tmo and stick their sim in it when u get the phone. then unlock it.
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ack im not sure, i thought that was a European specific thing, if anything find a friend that has Tmo and stick their sim in it when u get the phone. then unlock it.
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Samsung has gone "full retard" with their region locking on the S5
http://bgr.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-region-locking/
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Samsung has gone "full retard" with their region locking on the S5
http://bgr.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-region-locking/
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Makes no mention of NA Regions though, and the ATT Box doesnt have the sticker on it.
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Makes no mention of NA Regions though, and the ATT Box doesnt have the sticker on it.
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Ah, yes, it's my American perspective, as I would like to import, but Samsung is trying to stop such behavior.
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Ah, yes, it's my American perspective, as I would like to import, but Samsung is trying to stop such behavior.
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The expectation is that all American models are region-locked as well. Here is an example of a N. America model with the region-lock warning on it: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s5-region-lock-367402/
FYI, I bought an AT&T S5, unlocked it and am using it now on Straight Talk and with other local SIMs as I travel. Check out my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714535
I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?
vinuneuro said:
I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?
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unless an exploit comes out in the future (but i think everybody is pessimistic about this), the locked versions can't downgrade and can't root 4.4.2.
so you need either an unlocked version, or a locked version pre-4.4.2
And no....don't downgrade. You could easily brick your phone.
Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........
virtuewill said:
Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........
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Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol
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Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol
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There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.
Wait....what exact one did you buy????
kj2112 said:
Wait....what exact one did you buy????
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Moto X for AT&T
Memory - 32 GB
Back - Woven Black
Front - black
Accent - Metallic Black
Estimated Delivery May 5, 2014
$99 for 2 year contract. **** I could've just bought a used dev moto from ebay
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There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.
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Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.
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Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.
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Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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The Moto x definitely doesn't need to be rooted, but you may regret it later if you can't.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Thanks for all the helpful replies.
I wasn't planning on rooting this phone either, but then I came across Gravity Box. Sell the phone new and get an unlocked one.
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Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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No one is really in the market for a moto x unless you sell it for dirt cheap. You don't really need to root this device it's great without but even better with root. You can disable the camera shutter sound from the camera menu. Es file explorer is a great alternative? But if you want return it and get the T-Mobile version its unlocked. This phone has been really great.
MOTO X
Why are all pessimistic that manage to get root on a closed bootloader version from AT & T?
Why do these companies do not sell at least an opportunity to get open bootloader? What do they lose?
I miss perekllyuchatelya regimes in 2G, 3G, and other other joys ...
I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?
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I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?
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Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
You can pay a small fee and get your AT&T X unlocked to use on other GSM carriers....AT&T also might provide you with the code if you meet certain criteria. Bootloader unlock is another story. AT&T forbids Motorola from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones. Currently the ONLY possibility for unlocking the bootloader on an AT&T X is through the China Middleman.
Apologizes if any (or all) of this is redundant.
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Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
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Thanks, I pretty much figured in this day and age that the SIM could be unlocked or I'd have bought the unlocked one to start with. What bothers me most is I do not use/abuse root on any of the devices I own and am only interested in doing so on my X to run the Titanium Backup app I purchased to run on my older phone. I guess I knew back then the app needed root to run but since that used to never be an issue due to the collective experience I have at my fingertips here at XDA-Developers.com. it never dawned on my that a day would come where root would be taken away from me never to be returned.
Do we have confirmation anywhere if the bootloader is unlocked on the T-Mobile Note 4?
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Do we have confirmation anywhere if the bootloader is unlocked on the T-Mobile Note 4?
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Haven't seen anything yet, but if T-Mobile's history is any consolation, it should come unlocked. Almost all their phones are.
We can confidently say "yes" according to the past records.
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Haven't seen anything yet, but if T-Mobile's history is any consolation, it should come unlocked. Almost all their phones are.
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I was thinking about buying the T-Mobile version and putting it on attor Verizon will that be doable?
swordmastr54 said:
I was thinking about buying the T-Mobile version and putting it on attor Verizon will that be doable?
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will not work on Verizon maybe after an unlock process complete you can
swordmastr54 said:
I was thinking about buying the T-Mobile version and putting it on attor Verizon will that be doable?
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AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.
Non locked bootloader
I called samsung today and spoke with a lady and she said that T-mobile has no plans of locking the bootloaders nor does samsung, and that locking bootloaders is solely on the carrier. So, I assume, we can have free reign over our bad a$$ note 4 on T-Mobile... I made the switch to them today from ATT...
I hope the BL is unlocked....I got the z1s and its been damn near depressing to see a device with so much potential be crippled by a locked BL....And its the only reason I'm making the jump to the N4...If the BL is locked on the N4 then I'm opting for the Nexus 6
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AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.
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Thanks for the information on the TMO --> AT&T. I will be using it!
now that some people have the actual note 4 in hand has it been confirmed that the boot loader is unlocked?
dkotoric said:
now that some people have the actual note 4 in hand has it been confirmed that the boot loader is unlocked?
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I would love to know the answer to this as well.
I see there is a root guide over in TMOB Android Development for root. Doesn't that mean that the boot loader mst be unlocked? I have not tried it yet myself as I was waiting for a SIM unlock and TWRP or CWM first.
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I see there is a root guide over in TMOB Android Development for root. Doesn't that mean that the boot loader mst be unlocked? I have not tried it yet myself as I was waiting for a SIM unlock and TWRP or CWM first.
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no it does not, att and verizon note 3 got root and both had locked bootloaders
We can confirm that Bootloader is unlocked. People have rooted using Chainfire's auto root. Since that method requires an unlocked bootloader, it is 100% confirmed that the bootloader is unlocked.
YAY!!!!
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We can confirm that Bootloader is unlocked. People have rooted using Chainfire's auto root. Since that method requires an unlocked bootloader, it is 100% confirmed that the bootloader is unlocked.
YAY!!!!
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Can confirm. CF-autorooted mine. Bootloader is unlocked.
See the other threads so we don't make duplicates
NOTE 4
CZ Eddie said:
AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.
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You getting lte?
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You getting lte?
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Of course, we all are. Just do a little search. There are threads in all the ATT S3, S4, S5, Note 2 forums including a 700+ post thread in the Note 3 forum.
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Of course, we all are. Just do a little search. There are threads in all the ATT S3, S4, S5, Note 2 forums including a 700+ post thread in the Note 3 forum.
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Okay good. I know it has in the past I am using a T-Mobile G3 with great lte on AT&T but wanted to know for sure
What is the model number of the T Mobile Note 4 that fits this description? Also curious if the Verizon Developer Edition fits this description despite my not being able to find one anywhere.
Does a comprehensive list exist anywhere that shows what USA Carrier branded phones, by make and model, that can and cannot be made to work on carriers which they were not originally branded?
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AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.
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