Wife and 4G - Moto X Q&A

When I turn my wife the 4g icon is still there but the connection arrows are missing. Any reason why it's still there? Also it doesn't seem to pick up wifi signal as strong as other devices. Thoughts?
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Tell us more about your "wife". Lol. What exactly is 4g code for?
Anyway, I think the signal cluster is an att Verizon thing. The icon never disappears. I think it's all about marketing. 'Look at me I've got 4g.'
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Dammit I thought I fixed both of those. Haha. Thanks though. That's kinda what I thought it was.
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Revo is the first!

I dunno of u guys have heard this but the mg revolution well be the first vzw phone to have 4g voice and text!
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droidgenius said:
I dunno of u guys have heard this but the mg revolution well be the first vzw phone to have 4g voice and text!
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Haven't heard that but that's awesome! Can you post a link to the source?
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I am unsure as to what this means?
that was one of the things that drew me to this phone over the charge and thunderbolt, it supported VoLTE out of the box
here's a link to engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/20/verizons-reportedly-trials-volte-services-in-two-cities-eyes-n/
recognize that phone in the picture?
here's one from last Feb: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/verizon-successfully-completes-first-volte-call-in-the-world-pl/
Hot dang. I have no clue what that all means, but I am glad it's on meh phone.
Edit: So does this mean that we can soon use tablets to call with bluetooth? That we don't need a radio to call? Hmm? That would seem interesting, and would make Verizon the leader of LTE indeed.
I heard it from my Verizon store.... anyone know when its sposed to happen
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all verizon has said is that it's supposed to launch nationwide in 2013, was supposed to launch this year. they've been testing it with the Revolution since last February.
It is the first phone you can actually Talk and surf the web at the same time.
VoLTE (Voice over LTE). You have to have 4G and you have to wait till next year. I love Verizon...
Like Kane it was one of the features that drew me to this phone but since Verizon has yet to put 4G in my area, I forgot about this feature. I bought this 4G phone because Verizon said it would be available in my area in October 2011... Here we are almost February 2012... No 4G. Now I am just shooting for before the end of the world in December...
That can't be true because... the revolution is current using 3g voice and text
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It is the first phone you can actually Talk and surf the web at the same time.
VoLTE (Voice over LTE). You have to have 4G and you have to wait till next year. I love Verizon...
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This is available already if you are in a 4g area. I talk and surf when I'm on the phone with people a lot
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Oh yea that's a good point
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Yeah, I've been talking and surfing for a while now here in St. Lou...
In 4G areas voice uses cdma, data lte. Works great.
indyred99 said:
This is available already if you are in a 4g area. I talk and surf when I'm on the phone with people a lot
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All the 4g phones on Verizon are able to talk and text. I believe they are talking about making it so your phone calls and text messages will be carried over 4g compared to how Verizon transfers your calls and texts currently. It'll probably lead to your phone calls being much clearer in the future since it will be carried over a better network than it is currently.
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Ahh ok thought that was Volte. Learn something new everyday.
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indyred99 said:
This is available already if you are in a 4g area. I talk and surf when I'm on the phone with people a lot
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Not everyone lives in a 4G area... I live just north of LA and there is no 4G here which is odd as I can toss a rock and hit LA.
I can talk on the phone and tether at the same time, also text and all. For those of you that think VoLTE will be coming to the Revo, remember this phone has reached it's END OF LIFE. Whoever posted those articles the 2nd one was from last February. There are no more updates coming to this phone, there is no ICS until we get cm9. Someone would have to come up with a hack most likely to enable VoLTE on the Revo.
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I can talk on the phone and tether at the same time, also text and all. For those of you that think VoLTE will be coming to the Revo, remember this phone has reached it's END OF LIFE. Whoever posted those articles the 2nd one was from last February. There are no more updates coming to this phone, there is no ICS until we get cm9. Someone would have to come up with a hack most likely to enable VoLTE on the Revo.
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we don't need an update, VoLTE is already built into the revo.
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ufkal said:
Yeah, I've been talking and surfing for a while now here in St. Lou...
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My brother from another mother. Where you at here in the Lou? I am at Westport.
heres the weird thing, my mom has an old blackberry 9900 and shes always been able to talk and surf.... dang blackberries

Weak lte signal

Does anyone else notice a weak lte antenna? Been stuck on 3G where I had full 4G with the EVO LTE. Otherwise I love this phone. I can just stare at the screen, it's a thing of beauty.
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I've actually noticed this as well. Do u use a case? I'm wondering if it maybe has something to do with that. Gonna test when I get home from work.
aaron130 said:
I've actually noticed this as well. Do u use a case? I'm wondering if it maybe has something to do with that. Gonna test when I get home from work.
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No case at all.
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No case at all.
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I dont know if it has anything to do with it but i shut off The Sleep Mode in settings/power and it seems like my 4G is alot better. It could be my imagination but it sure as hell seems better! Lol
I'll give it a try
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Found what I believe is a solution. When I changed my network mode from cdma/lte to automatic, my signal changed from 1x to 4g. Strange but true, makes a huge difference
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Didn't work. My phone roams more than ever
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Im really starting to notice as i drive all over Florida(im a driver) that it its not holding 4G as well as my Note II...In sensorly it gives you a good idea where LTE is available,hell i logged a bunch of what is seen in Florida and im noticing in light purple areas where I had 4G before i have to now be pretty stationary for the One to lock in to 4G..But the real kick in the sack that has been driving me crazy these passed 2 days is seeing 4G on the phone and start doing something which transmits data it drops 4G and goes back to 3G..Happened at least 7 times today
Quite honestly, I had this issue pretty much with all my Sprint LTE phones, and I had pretty much all of them. Of course some held LTE more than others, but I was still getting frequent drops. Until Sprint moves into the 800 frequency, Holding LTE is going to be a consistent problem.
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BrianBaker said:
Im really starting to notice as i drive all over Florida(im a driver) that it its not holding 4G as well as my Note II...In sensorly it gives you a good idea where LTE is available,hell i logged a bunch of what is seen in Florida and im noticing in light purple areas where I had 4G before i have to now be pretty stationary for the One to lock in to 4G..But the real kick in the sack that has been driving me crazy these passed 2 days is seeing 4G on the phone and start doing something which transmits data it drops 4G and goes back to 3G..Happened at least 7 times today
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Same here in Texas I drive also and have been testing the usual spots.
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Ryno_666 said:
Same here in Texas I drive also and have been testing the usual spots.
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At 1st I was ready to return the phone because of it but decided it's really not worth it..Central Florida is only at 28% so things should improve once LTE is a little more dense and not so much distance between each tower that has been upgraded..And if i get my panties in a twist I can always go back to the Note II untill more towers are lit up.
Sprint LTE is the Swiss Cheese of 4G...
Yea same here my signal doesn't stay connected switches frequently as compared to my S3 which held 4g constantly Im in Lawrence KS we got good lte signal here
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Same here in Charlotte, NC.. Only complaint I have..
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Today I Watched My Nexus 4 Get Genuinely Confused

So I'm on a road trip, and I brought my N4 (on T-Mobile USA) along for the ride. I decided to stay the night in Savannah, GA. After checking into my hotel, I took my phone out of my pocket and saw something I've never seen before. It was showing a data connection as "3G" rather than the usual "H" for HSPA or "E" for EDGE. I had to do a double take. Curious, I went to Settings-About Phone-Status and checked the network type. It was "UMTS:3". Obviously that means T-Mobile's network refarming has happened here and 1900 MHz UMTS is live.
Here's the thing, though. The radio keeps switching between "3G" and "H" every few seconds, seemingly unable to figure out which one it wants to hold onto. The phone is still usable but I still find it annoying. Of course, the vast majority of T-Mobile phones would never experience this since they hardly ever have support for 1900 MHz, but I'm curious if other N4 owners living in areas where T-Mobile has lit up 1900 MHz UMTS are having this issue as well? In the end, the phone may be usable, but the constant switching is playing hell on my OCD!!
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At least the refarming is done where you're at, I'm still impatiently waiting.
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At least the refarming is done where you're at, I'm still impatiently waiting.
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Yeah but at this rate I'm hoping they either fix this in a Nexus 4 radio update (maybe make it prefer HSPA over UMTS, but I don't know if that would cause problems outside the US), or never light it up in my home market. haha
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I just came from Verizon of 12 years and a gs3. I'm on umts at my home in rural Atlanta ga. It does the same switching as you say. I just thought that was normal gsm behavior .... phone is idle then 3g is active. Phone queries the net (open browser etc...) and H kicks in.
On another note the H speeds here are almost equal to vzw lte, I'm impressed
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Yeah but at this rate I'm hoping they either fix this in a Nexus 4 radio update (maybe make it prefer HSPA over UMTS, but I don't know if that would cause problems outside the US), or never light it up in my home market. haha
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I just noticed you're in Durham, I'm in Winston.
Has the refarm taken effect by you?
My phone does this then pulls the h on demand I am in Detroit metro area. I still pull high download speeds and don't have a problem with the change over. Honestly until I read this post I thought this was normal. Do do a speed test see if it is slower or faster then your use to.
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I just noticed you're in Durham, I'm in Winston.
Has the refarm taken effect by you?
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No it hasn't, and hopefully it won't before there's a radio update to fix it (if they'd even bother fixing it)!
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I have had my N4 for only a couple months, but it has been doing that ever since I got it. I am in the Farmington, MO area too though. I thought it was just normal, as this is the first time I have had a decent phone and be on a plan rather than prepay.
Mine has always behaved like that. My nexus one and gnex too.
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Weird. mine had never done this except here in Savannah. Is anyone else here running stock?
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I'm on all stock and I've never seen the 3G label. I'm out here in Portland, OR, and SLC, UT. I just figured our phones were only capable of G, E, and H labels.
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I find it wierd that you've never seen the 3G label. Normally you camp on 3G (UMTS) and it'll flip to "H" for HSPA+ when data's transferring either up, down, or both. This has been normal over the years, until there were modifications on T-Mobile's side to display 4G all the time for devices that were HSPA+ capable.
I'm stock unrooted
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Mi|enko said:
I find it wierd that you've never seen the 3G label. Normally you camp on 3G (UMTS) and it'll flip to "H" for HSPA+ when data's transferring either up, down, or both. This has been normal over the years, until there were modifications on T-Mobile's side to display 4G all the time for devices that were HSPA+ capable.
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This never happened on my G2 nor my Nexus S. The only way that happened on the Nexus S was when running a custom ROM.
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oldblue910 said:
This never happened on my G2 nor my Nexus S. The only way that happened on the Nexus S was when running a custom ROM.
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GS2, Samsung edited to reflect 4G. Most customers would be perplexed by the constant camping on 3G, then flipping to H (HSPA+ which is branded as T-Mobile 4G), so the just modified their network bits in their OS to reflect 4G all the time. As far as the Nexus S, that's just a 3G device not capable of the HSPA+ bandwidth (it topped out at 7mbps).
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I always have a H when idle and H+ when using the Internet. Never seen 3G label on my N4 till date
Mi|enko said:
GS2, Samsung edited to reflect 4G. Most customers would be perplexed by the constant camping on 3G, then flipping to H (HSPA+ which is branded as T-Mobile 4G), so the just modified their network bits in their OS to reflect 4G all the time. As far as the Nexus S, that's just a 3G device not capable of the HSPA+ bandwidth (it topped out at 7mbps).
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Yeah on the G2, the Froyo ROM showed H all the time, never 3G. For the Gingerbread ROM, though, it was changed to show 2G and 4G.
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I have a note 2 and you probably don't care, but my phone goes from H to 3G then to 4G for some reason in the DMV area. Tmobile too
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sandy-achar said:
I always have a H when idle and H+ when using the Internet. Never seen 3G label on my N4 till date
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Could redact differently based on the carrier and/or cell tower. Here's a conversation from the Galaxy Nexus forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2138601
All in all though, this is pretty well known and documented.
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I have a note 2 and you probably don't care, but my phone goes from H to 3G then to 4G for some reason in the DMV area. Tmobile too
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Sounds like you're running an AOSP rom on your N2. 3G for UMTS, H for HSPA+, and 4G for the LTE. If you were on a stock TMo ROM, it'd be 4G for UMTS and HSPA+, then 4G LTE for LTE.
Important to note is that the status bar icons ate just that. . .icons. You could actually modify these to display whatever you wanted. If I wanted it to say 8G when on LTE, I'd just have to make a custom icon and bake it in. Doesn't mean I actually have an 8G network.
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thats normal behavior, it changes to H when there is data flow. it just depends on the area and the signal/coverage in the area. on a custom rom, i see it change from a H to a H+ all the time(when data is flowing). rarely, i see a 3G.

Reasons for switching to a different device

I just wanted to point out the HTC one lte antenna isn't the best. Just today I've traded the htc one for S4 I now have LTE signal at home.
I traded my S4 for the One and get way better speeds on LTE and 3g on the one
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mxl180 said:
I just wanted to point out the HTC one lte antenna isn't the best. Just today I've traded the htc one for S4 I now have LTE signal at home.
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it all depends on your area
this isnt necessary
I get 31 up and 9 down in Boston ma
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I get 31 up and 9 down in Boston ma
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31 up and 9 down eh? Damn that's a fast upload speed.
This pretty much mirrors my own observations. I don't think it's just the antenna either - if you toggle data, you can get 4G in a lot of places with marginal signal on the One. Once that drops down to 3G however, it will never go back to 4G in that area unless you toggle data again.
Enjoy your S4. I'm sticking it out with the One in the hopes that Sprint/HTC fix the radio so it holds on to 4G better.
HTC phones are notorious for having not so great radios. Not saying it's necessarily true, but each of you can be the judge of that.
The newest radio works perfect for me. Signal is strong and switch off between 3g wifi and lte are quick
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Sprint network doesn't seem to be all that good. On the sprint network it always seemed to drop 3g all together.
I also use my phone sprint HTC one in Kuwait with a different carrier and have had no problems with signal.
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flex360 said:
it all depends on your area
this isnt necessary
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I don't think thats true. To an extent, sure, but this phone is a lot like the EVO LTE. It has a hard time holding onto 4G and getting it to actually switch to 4G sometimes requires toggling airplane mode on and off.
Too bad the S4 sucks as a phone and has touchwhiz.
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First, the HTC One is made from aluminum which can disrupt signal. However, on my HTC One I have always gotten LTE when I was suppose to. Signal strength compared to my family's phones HTC Evo 3d, iPhone 5, Samsung Galaxy S3, and a HTC Evo 4g lte.
I went from htc one to note2. I seem to keep a better consistancy, but it isnt like a night and day
I tweaked my one setting to scan more so I was able to hold it more than stock. But it has improved. I do miss my htc one but still love my note2
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the radios. Just that HTC uses different values on the LTE settings. I was comparing my EVO LTE and Note 2 LTE values and I believe the EVOs values were higher. I'm sure that plays a role..
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I consistently have LTE where my GF's Note 2 is on 3g. She has yet to have LTE, where I'm stuck in 3g.
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Wait, srsly? Where in Boston are you getting this, if you don't mind my asking? I live about 14mi north and I get crappy speeds
I get this all day long. Always full bars and sometimes drops one or two but always gets back to full. Rarely see 3g.
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At my work we have a very weak lte signal. Three of us have Sprint HTC ones, the rest has the s3, s4, and the Note II. The ones suck on weak lte signals. Constant drops, slower speeds, and according to the Signalcheck pro app, it's about ten dBm weaker. The note II is a beast on lte, and the s3 and s4 and much better as well.
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I went from an original Evo 4G to the 4G LTE. This was weeks before the LTE rollout and it sucked. However, after roll-out, it still sucked. My wife got an S3 and her speeds were great, but more importantly, she could get (and keep) the LTE signal everywhere, whereas my EvoLTE could NOT. I went to the S3, then the Note 2 and had great speed and signal everywhere. However Samsung decided it did not want to support Outlook 10 anymore so I am back to HTC. My first day (yesterday) I was back to the HTC radios which cannot get and hold LTE signals as well as Sumsung.
It just is what it is.
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HTC phones are notorious for having not so great radios. Not saying it's necessarily true, but each of you can be the judge of that.
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Samsung has a slightly worse track record.

Two Motos, one shows 4G icon, one doesn't when on WiFi

False Alarm. False Alarm.
Mine shows 4g on wifi. I'm on kitkat
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herzzreh said:
I have two Moto Xs, both running the same build. One shows 4G when connected to WiFi and another one has it hidden (as it's supposed to). What the hell Motorola?!
Any ideas guys?
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Are they both running the same firmware?
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Are they both running the same firmware?
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Yes. Only explanation is that it's somehow controlled by the SIM card. One that's acting normal is on TMobile and the other is on AT&T. Also, both are XT1053, but one shows 4G and another shows 4G LTE. Has to be SIM-controlled... I hate AT&T!
EDIT: nope... not it.
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Are they both running the same firmware?
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Yes. This is what's driving me nuts. Although one is completely virgin and another one I've been using.
So if you swap the sims between the two phones the odd behavior doesn't also change? I know certain providers like to specify what the phone should indicate, this really sounds like of those cases.
I haven't swapped but saw the other phone show same 4g LTE icon. I guess AT&T is forcing it to always on.
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Swapped cards... it is the damn AT&T that's forcing it!
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Swapped cards... it is the damn AT&T that's forcing it!
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If you want the somewhat technical reason, inside the SystemUI.apk, Motorola has modified it and added a bools.xml which basically turns on and off many carrier related stuff.
For example, Sprint sim cards change the signal icons to 6 bars, verizon 5 bars, and if you had an AT&T phone, the AT&T icons.
Just thought I would add this.:good:
That's what I figured. I also thought that the TMobile version would be immune from silly AT&T crap like this, but guess not.
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That's what I figured. I also thought that the TMobile version would be immune from silly AT&T crap like this, but guess not.
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Well, you do get an unlockable bootloader and no AT&T logo on the back.

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