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So i went out and bought an iphone 4s...
here is a quick comparison between this phone and my android galaxy s2
first of all, camera on the ip4s is lightyears beyond the sgs2... samsungs are simply cheap in my opinion. but thats just me.
phone has way more apps than android, and better quality too. that was a nice upgrade
The touch screen (although incredibly small) is way more responsive, and has way better color, and a lot sharper. This was noticeable. The difference was night and day. All android phones seems to has this problem though.. not good color. :/
And siri is amazing. I can’t believe how smart this application is…. Cutting edge. I wish my sgs2 had something similar built in.
The speaker quality on the ear piece and the loud speaker were also superior quality.
The radios also are better than any android phone I have ever used. No LOS!
My final verdict is android needs to step up their game. Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag! It irritates me that I have been missing out for so long on all the freedom and variety of apps available with iOS!!
anybody else have a similar experience?
don’t turn this into a flame thread either.
Cool story
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Cool story
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if you aren't going to be serious then don't reply
If you are looking for a similar experience how about you check out 1 of the other 50 threads on the topic. You obviously don't know much with your title (compare to my droid). Droid is a branding used by verizon. Android is an operating system. Great story though.
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What's the "experience"? That one phone is better than another for you?
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Did he just use the words freedom and iphone in the same sentence? lolol
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If you don't want to make this into a flame thread that is next to impossible. Firstly almost the entire populace here hates the iPhone, or just apple. Secondly, whilst i will belive some of your points and they are valid, the others are downright trollish. e.g. "Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag!", have you ever used a galaxy nexus? Have you ever used ICS? If not, then why the heck do you have such an idea of which you have no basis of experience from?
I doubt it will lag seeing as i own a sgs 2 and this thing can't lagg on me. So why should a galaxy nexus with "better" firmware and practically equivalent hardware lagg?
Point being, all i see this thread as is a way to start a flame war.
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anybody else have a similar experience?
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Why would we? It looks like you're already trying so hard!
Lots of your points just don't make any sense. Especially things like saying the colours look better on an iPhone than on Super AMOLED Plus. Isn't that the main selling feature of the Amoled displays?
Anways, glad you're happy with your purchase. Not too glad that you cannot compare phones at all. But hey, you win some you lose some.
Agreed. I too have an SGS II and to say it's laggy is silly. The SGS II is the fastest phone to date. It was rated #1 device on Consumer Reports and Editor's Choice on a well known web site. This guy's post made me laugh so hard I spilled my coffee. Seeing the words freedom and IOS in the same sentence is histerical.
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I got confused at the part where he said it had more freedom than Android ? Lmao ,
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
Gotta love the noobs.
Have YOU hugged a noob today? <3
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Gotta love the noobs.
Have YOU hugged a noob today? <3
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Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
well thats just my experience.
the music player on the iphone seemed to be a little better too. but again, just my observation. people get so defensive it's kinda funny seriously, haha.
does anybody know any good roms for the ip4s?
EDIT*** trollololol
i'm kidding you guys... i hate iphones. just wanted to mix up the pot a little. i have an evo, and will never own an iOS product. lawl
i think the troll post was a little too obvious... it was the part about the display color wasn't it? llooool
screw apple.
hottubtimemachine said:
well thats just my experience.
the music player on the iphone seemed to be a little better too. but again, just my observation. people get so defensive it's kinda funny seriously, haha.
does anybody know any good roms for the ip4s?
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FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i think the troll post was a little too obvious... it was the part about the display color wasn't it?
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No mate. It was this bit...
hottubtimemachine said:
So i went out and bought an iphone 4s...
here is a quick comparison between this phone and my android galaxy s2
first of all, camera on the ip4s is lightyears beyond the sgs2... samsungs are simply cheap in my opinion. but thats just me.
phone has way more apps than android, and better quality too. that was a nice upgrade
The touch screen (although incredibly small) is way more responsive, and has way better color, and a lot sharper. This was noticeable. The difference was night and day. All android phones seems to has this problem though.. not good color. :/
And siri is amazing. I can’t believe how smart this application is…. Cutting edge. I wish my sgs2 had something similar built in.
The speaker quality on the ear piece and the loud speaker were also superior quality.
The radios also are better than any android phone I have ever used. No LOS!
My final verdict is android needs to step up their game. Sure the new ICS phone is coming out, but it will still lag! It irritates me that I have been missing out for so long on all the freedom and variety of apps available with iOS!!
anybody else have a similar experience?
don’t turn this into a flame thread either.
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Lmao
No hug for you then
Max. (From my Galaxy 2)
What a fail at trolling lol
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Cool story bro, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
yzf750 said:
Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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I don't really get where people find the time and energy to post like this. Get a refund and move on with your life, already.
The galaxy gear is awesome (and so is the pebble, the sony smartwatch, etc. Can't wait to see what Google and Apple do)
Samsung has really knocked this out of the park and showed us the potential of wearables - probably better than anyone - and how they're so obviously going to be the future.
Samsung has been innovating incredibly well lately. I really hope Microsoft/Google/Apple up their game and keep up!
Well...it is indeed lacking a lot of features that should be there right out of the box but I am sure you have done your research before you bought the watch. I did do my research and I am quite happy with the watch. I wouldn't buy it at $300 but at $210 with tmobile discount 30% off, this is not a bad buy at all.
I never once had a problem with installing apps from Samsung app store. Their selection is really small and apps are not that great but it never hang or fail to install for me. You can also sideload apps as long as they don't require access to internet if you don't mind some extra steps of installing.
Reading email would be a nice thing but I don't see myself using the tiny screen to read email. I would rather want to do it on the phone.
Facebook update sure would be nice.
Never lock up 4 times a day but then I don't use watch styler app or custom face.
Also please try the ATN app. It helps with all the notifications that I need the watch to show such as whatsapp and whatever others app you might need.
Could it be better ? Sure. Will it get better? Of coarse it will !
There's nothing BETA about it, its simply a new consumer product which hasn't boomed yet.. once the developers gain interest you can bet your ass your going to see some amazing stuff from the gear.
Anything Samsung related on the watch works extremely well, could they have included additional features sure. But why would they ? Its a Samsung device providing support with Samsung products/applications straight out of the box.
All the things listed can be easily resolved via software updates, or third party software. Eg. ATN.
Any complaint you have about the gear will have the same complaubt about the new sony smart watch. Its new. Do your homework before you buy something.
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Eh, I love mine (got the 30% off deal) but I agree with the OP and am disappointed with the small amount of apps in the Samsung store... and at least half of it is junk. A big reason for that is because Samsung is being weird about releasing the SDK to the public, I wish they'd get on with that soon. Though I think (I hope) the situation will get a lot better soon when they release official updates for S3, S4, Note2 to make them compatible with the Gear.
I have to disagree with the OP. The gear is amazing. I don't have problems installing apps and I think some of them are pretty good like watch styler. The only thing I don't like about the gear is that it doesn't show notifications for third party apps and I hope Samsung releases an update enabling notifications for all apps.
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The Galaxy Gear is ready for Prime Time.
I love my Gear.
Has all the Apps I want.
Anybody that takes the time to find this forum should know,
You do not have to get all the Apps from the Samsung Store.
A member of XDA has a solution for notifications, many people use it and like it.
Do not know about facebook, could care less about facebook.
Sounds like the OP thinks the device replaces a smartphone,
A smartwatch tells you at a glance if the message you get is worth pulling your smartphone out.
Who other than the OP, has every had any problems with the Gear Locking up?
Who other than the OP can not find a way to tell time with the Gear?
AstroDigital said:
The Galaxy Gear is ready for Prime Time.
I love my Gear.
Has all the Apps I want.
I agree
Anybody that takes the time to find this forum should know,
You do not have to get all the Apps from the Samsung Store.
I agree
A member of XDA has a solution for notifications, many people use it and like it.
Do not know about facebook, could care less about facebook.
That app doesn't work for me, but I really don't care.
Sounds like the OP thinks the device replaces a smartphone,
A smartwatch tells you at a glance if the message you get is worth pulling your smartphone out.
I agree
Who other than the OP, has every had any problems with the Gear Locking up?
Who other than the OP can not find a way to tell time with the Gear?
I had locking up problems until I stopped using the buggy lockstyler app
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I LOVE my gear watch
For me SVoice/Phone integration/Camera is what makes this watch, and also of course the notifications. Really don't care about apps (Although Tripit, Evernote and MyFitnessPal are nice).
It's like google glass on your wrist!
eing able to reply to messages by voice from my wrist in the car is awesome. I never hear anyone talk about these great features when they are griping about the watch.
Hi . that's a shame you are disappointed.What colour did you get.
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yzf750 said:
Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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I think we can see from this earlier post this persons position
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Well lets see....
Cant even hear a call unless your in a quiet room
Cant reply to a txt with s voice unless its dead silent or s voice gets it wrong
Facebook app turns your phone settings so it speaks every stupid thing its doing
watch making app STILL locks up daily your clock
every other day updates to gear manager trying to fix something without a update list to give you a clue
installing apps hang alot
some dont work or give you just a blank watch face when you try to open them
Guess all the posts in the gear forum are made up
I quit flashing roms and tinkering since my HTC MDA days, I just want a product that works out of the box I guess
Every review is the same.. so so on it. Return rate is high also. The few that love them, great, tinker away with yours. When I can read my 3rd party apps emails, pick from 100s and 100s of apps maybe Ill dig it. Till then its a beta toy as far as im concerned. i knew it when i got it just didnt expect it to be this crappy I guess.
I'd like to know how many of the returned watches are due to either people not usually wearing a watch or because it wasn't compatible with their device
I've not had any of the problems mentioned here (mind, I didn't use watchstyler). Mic and speaker seem fine to me
Hardly any apps these days mention what has changed between versions so can't see that being a negative. Having to reset every time there is an update sucks though (however, the restore thing seems to go ok for the most part)
I just want my notifications to give more detail - mms to show pic, email to display html, sms/facebook/etc not be limited by character limit. It's all very possible going on the evidence
Couldn't care less about apps. Good to be able to sideload though
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Hi . that's a shame you are disappointed.What colour did you get.
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I think we can see from this earlier post this persons position
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Even thinking all that you still went out and bought one.
I love mine.
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yzf750 said:
Well lets see....
Cant even hear a call unless your in a quiet room
your watch must be faulty mines loud enough
Cant reply to a txt with s voice unless its dead silent or s voice gets it wrong
I use tablet talk and Google keyboard to reply
Facebook app turns your phone settings so it speaks every stupid thing its doing
this will be sorted with an update I use dolphin browser and no problem with talk
watch making app STILL locks up daily your clock
no lock ups here
every other day updates to gear manager trying to fix something without a update list to give you a clue
at least they are fixing things and not ignoring us
installing apps hang alot
some dont work or give you just a blank watch face when you try to open them
you must have faulty watch. . return it
the 30% who returned will buy again when new software comes out , Samsung will do lots of new things once it's compatible with all device . It's a clever divide I love it
if you have no friends and no one calls or text you and don't like taking quick pics is probly not for you
Guess all the posts in the gear forum are made up
I quit flashing roms and tinkering since my HTC MDA days, I just want a product that works out of the box I guess
Every review is the same.. so so on it. Return rate is high also. The few that love them, great, tinker away with yours. When I can read my 3rd party apps emails, pick from 100s and 100s of apps maybe Ill dig it. Till then its a beta toy as far as im concerned. i knew it when i got it just didnt expect it to be this crappy I guess.
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For me SVoice/Phone integration/Camera is what makes this watch, and also of course the notifications. Really don't care about apps (Although Tripit, Evernote and MyFitnessPal are nice).
It's like google glass on your wrist!
eing able to reply to messages by voice from my wrist in the car is awesome. I never hear anyone talk about these great features when they are griping about the watch.
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Nailed it!
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I'm loving my gear but can also appreciate where the OP is coming from. In the main I think the gear lives up to its expectations ax far as I am concerned.
The biggest issue I have is the lack of water resistance, and how it handles facebook notifications. I am hoping though that this thing gets better as time moves along. It does worry me however that work on the Gear 2 will already have started and we will end up with a non supported device quite quickly.
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I'm loving my gear but can also appreciate where the OP is coming from. In the main I think the gear lives up to its expectations ax far as I am concerned.
The biggest issue I have is the lack of water resistance, and how it handles facebook notifications. I am hoping though that this thing gets better as time moves along. It does worry me however that work on the Gear 2 will already have started and we will end up with a non supported device quite quickly.
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The op in my opinion just wants to rubbish the gear in anyway possible whether it's true or not
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you have to be blind to call Gear a decent product. they had a great idea, but the execution is terrible and you may disagree with that, but you are lying to yourself. this needs so much work to become a decent product.
yzf750 said:
Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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After reading your post, I had to REGISTER to reply.. :fingers-crossed:
Seems like you got a beef with the apps. Not the phone. You keep talking about bad apps, or not enough apps. Well they were selling out in my area, and I got mine on discount. Found out they were selling fast on Ebay. Purchased a couple more at discount, sold them for a profit. It seems like a lot of people think differently than you. We all understand this is a FIRST, you didn't expect this to first run to be PERFECT did you...
BTW, I am a layman, don't know JACK-CHIT, to be honest. I got the Note 3 on a humble, and since I was way over my head with the Note 3, I might as well go all the way..Got the Gear at $209.. Happy Camper...
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you have to be blind to call Gear a decent product. they had a great idea, but the execution is terrible and you may disagree with that, but you are lying to yourself. this needs so much work to become a decent product.
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There must be a lot of BLIND PEOPLE out there. They were selling like hot cakes at BB, and other stores..:laugh:
I know it's a little too soon, but what do you think it's after the pebble steel? Will it be the Pebble 3? When do you think will it be announced?
This is one of my first time posting on this forum , please be nice.
Whatever it is, orders will be accepted at least three months before it is released....
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Pebble Wear?
Pebble aluminium with boom sound
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I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.
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I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.
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Yes that will be great! Maybe also include wireless charging like the Qualcomm Toq.
I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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Agreed on point 1. I'm testing the Neo and it is the single most annoying thing with this watch. Any watch that can't reliably activate the screen to the point I have to reach over with my other hand is a fail. It is no longer convenient - I need the info to be immediately visible when I glance down for it to be useful like on my Pebble and Metawatch. Even the Gear 2 Neo is a half second slow to wake up, so it doesn't feel as nice to use as as the Pebble. I am not one to be impressed by the color touch screen of the Gears. It's form over function.
On point 2 - I really feel for you that it is not a reliable way to interact for you. As an English speaker, I cannot do justice on describing how convenient the always on voice commands are when they work - and we're coming upon an age where more often than not, it is reliable and accurate. To extend that to the watch so that the watch on your wrist is the control mechanism in scenarios where your hands are busy otherwise, it's a breakthrough! I hope the voice control is made better for your use someday very soon so you can also experience the convenience I've been enjoying.
I don't care for the round shape of the Moto 360, though. I would like a "screen shape" so I can achieve the density of information I require on certain watchfaces - I don't know if I'll be able to get that out of a round screen.
Like I said, I LOVE the way my Pebble has been able to give me such real features and uses, but due to what I expect a major shift in how I want to use a smartwatch after testing one with the mic and speaker, those are absolute requirements going forward for me. If they don't add that voice control capability, I'll have to eliminate their offerings from my future selections.
I see your point, and would probably love it too, if voice recognition was more useful to me. But as long as it isn't, voice recognition isn't a priority for me.
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My guess is that a future Pebble would have the following:
1) Once again the charging port/cable will be drastically altered from the previous versions. (making it not backwards compatible)
2) The overall shell of the unit is bulkier.
3) If the technology exists, they might have a color screen (e-ink/paper of course).
4) The stock software will allow users more open slots to install/remove watch faces/apps/games.
Adding anything else would drastically lower the battery's performance and be very unnecessary. Adding Android as the base software would really make this watch a nightmare to use. The battery wouldn't last as long, the watch would be heavier, and it would get uncomfortably warm. Adding stuff like a speaker wouldn't give this watch its waterproof ability.
The way Pebble is, its perfect in every aspect. Granted you're still stuck with some watch faces, but physically, its perfect. Waterproof, dust-proof, drop-proof, long-lasting, light, watch-bands are replaceable, and its relatively thin.
I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...
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I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...
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try pebblebits
Yes, pebblebits working just fine, no more squares...
I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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Maybe they can use Qualcomm's Mirasol display.
Yes, higher res, always-on screen is my biggest desire for a new pebble. Ideally color, and I think mirasol would be a great option.
Keep the buttons; I absolutely do not want a touch screen. And better built in apps would be nice: timer / stop watch / single shot alarms, "nag" notifications that buzz every 5 minutes until dismissed.
Voice input to Google now would be nice but not that important to me. My phone does that already.
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I would be curious to know if it is possible for them to come out with an Android Wear watch running on the E-Ink display. Kinda taking the best of both worlds. I think that the development community has been great for Pebble so far but I am pretty sure Android Wear will be catching up really quick to surpass it. But one of the features that I love about my Pebble is that the battery life is great and always on. So if there is a way it would be a neat idea to kinda bridge the gap instead of trying to compete. They would also be offering something that any of the Android Wear devices we have seen so far. Just a thought.
The lack of apps and not being able to sideload is irritating right now but I believe when development progresses we will get these things. I refuse to pay a dollar for a calculator app or 2048. I would like to have them on my watch but think they are taking advantage. I just gave samsung 200 dollars, they should provide more free useful apps.
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So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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Legacy2385 said:
So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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Some... yes. A calculator should be stock. What's with the attitudes on here today? If they are going to compete with android, they are going to want to develop a lot more apps.
P.s. And over the years, I have given them a couple of thousand. I've been very loyal to samsung.
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azpatterson3 said:
Some... yes. A calculator should be stock.
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I agree, man. I love some of the stock apps, for example, the remote app, but a calc app should be default too. I would consider paying for the calc app if it at least had a percentage option.
You can sideload apps, it's just that there are no apps to sideload. I'm sure samsung will provide us with a a calculator just as they provided a sleep app which wasn't available before the weekend
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azpatterson3 said:
Some... yes. A calculator should be stock. What's with the attitudes on here today? If they are going to compete with android, they are going to want to develop a lot more apps. P.s. And over the years, I have given them a couple of thousand. I've been very loyal to samsung. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527
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polish_pat said:
You can sideload apps, it's just that there are no apps to sideload. I'm sure samsung will provide us with a a calculator just as they provided a sleep app which wasn't available before the weekend Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
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Completely agree with azpatterson3, the calculator is the symbol for the problem! It's not the dollar for the an app. I like many always try to buy the dev's paid apps and I have hundreds of apps stuck on play to prove it! However, for Tizen we have (almost) only that one app (not counting the nascent watch face efforts, and Glympse). Morover, a basic calculator app is the type of app that every single beginning developer publishes for free just to get started! Samsung marketing this in their new Tizen store is . . . .puzzling! The irony is thick!
I do accept polish_pat's point too. There will be a free calculator, more watch faces and more. . . everything. Hopefully many created by outside devs that we can side load. But waiting is really, really frustrating.
Reminds me of when I bought a Motorola Atrix some years back (don't even remember which model right now!) I and many others were waiting and waiting for development on roms --it was painfully slow and limited. I felt like I won the lotto when I switched to samsung and found the rich, and fast development that hit all their galaxy (and note) phones.
However, with our Neo we're back in Matrix territory again. . .waiting for the developers to cross the river and setup shop. It won't be as fast since the population of users is much smaller, probably won't be as rich either. Fortunately, this is only a watch
As for Samsung leading any development surge, well, that would be great. but I suspect they will focus on ensuring the NEo has everything that is out there for other smart watches health bands and that's about it.
Moreover, if the way mucked up the S-Health/ Fitness for Gear approach is any model for how they will go forward, then we truly are going to be stuck in a mediocre app environment. I really hope they get better than that!
Still, I am enjoying what the Neo has now -- the (limited) sleep app, the telephony (great!), text messages and even S voice is pretty good for some searches and messaging for me (so far). Although more than once I have had to nervously say "cancel message" in a panic after looking at what my watch and S voice interpreted my words to be! )
markbc01 said:
I do accept polish_pat's point too. There will be a free calculator, more watch faces and more. . . everything. Hopefully many created by outside devs that we can side load. But waiting is really, really frustrating.
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An OS is nothing without a community behind it. You can have the best, most efficient, smooth and gorgeous OS but its simply sucks if there is no one to code for it (aka windows mobile) This watch is Tizen's first serious market entry, so of course it sucks, for now, but remember that the king of mobile gadgets is behind it and it will eventually be something great. We are the pioneers of Tizen, we are paving the way for the future. Tizen is a good opportunity for any dev to have a fresh, new and especially easy revenue stream. I mean a guy coded a freakin simple calculator app and sold it for 1$. I'm sure that by the end of May, he will make at least a couple grand on something that any dev can code in under 1h. Same goes for any other app. If i were a dev, I'd jump on this opportunity of knowing this is a new emerging market that has a very serious bunch of backers (Open handset alliance) and within a year, there will be at least a couple hundreds of thousands of devices just screaming for 3rd party apps. And although a calculator might not be something that someone would spend a dollar on, there are many, many other simple apps that people would pay for. As an example, porting a T1 wrinting input that would allow us to write something directly on the watch
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I'm developing a simple calculator app I'm going to release for free... I find it crazy people are charging for extremely simple apps! I can see charging $1-5 for an app that actually takes some work to develop, but comon, a watch face for $2?!
Its all about opportunity. I'm not ever going to spend 2$ on a watchface, but suply x - demand xxxxxxxxxxx and as long as it stays like that, there will be more and more basic apps for a premium price
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Its all about opportunity. I'm not ever going to spend 2$ on a watchface, but suply x - demand xxxxxxxxxxx and as long as it stays like that, there will be more and more basic apps for a premium price
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Yeah, makes sense... they have had a lot of people buy them already. So hey if you can succeed at it, I guess touche.
But I submitted my calculator! Hopefully it gets approved... first app I have ever submitted. See if it goes through...
Out of curiosity, whats your coding experience? I might get motivated enough to take a crack at tizen. I know the basic stuff on Eclipse and have a few good ideas i would like to try for the gear. Is it easier or harder than for Android?
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polish_pat said:
Out of curiosity, whats your coding experience? I might get motivated enough to take a crack at tizen. I know the basic stuff on Eclipse and have a few good ideas i would like to try for the gear. Is it easier or harder than for Android?
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I consider myself a .NET developer first and Java a lid becoming a close second although I still have a lot to learn. Tizen widgets use HTML and Javascript for the backend. So if you know HTML5 and J Query I would say it's easier than android. Hard part is limited auto complete and knowing the SDK. For the most part I avoided the sdk.
Thanks for app!
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I also submitted a calculator but I avoided their SDK completely
I don't know how Samsung responds they will probably not be happy
Helga Pataki said:
I also submitted a calculator but I avoided their SDK completely
I don't know how Samsung responds they will probably not be happy
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Nice.. I bet they are processing like 59 calculator apps because people had the same idea! But yeah the sdk is just weird when it's javascript... seems too weird to me.
Why don't you guys post your apps here for us to use
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Why don't you guys post your apps here for us to use
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Yes, all you need to do is zip up the wgt file and post that. We can side load w/ sdb install.
Make it into a fun competition. Best calculator wins. ;-]
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Yes, all you need to do is zip up the wgt file and post that. We can side load w/ sdb install.
Make it into a fun competition. Best calculator wins. ;-]
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I'll see if I can post mine later tonight. Found a small bug with mine where you can stack functions... also going to be implementing advanced functions here soon.
I just zip the wgt file with any normal zip program?
So you don't need the sdk to make app for this watch? I am not a programmer but I read that sdk is closed sources. I know closed source is restricted.
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Legacy2385 said:
So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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my sentiments exactly...:laugh:
Other than the obvious, Gear/Gear 2 run Tizen. How are they different?
Can you make calls from the watch/accept/decline calls from the watch like you can on the Gear/Gear 2?
Also, how does it handle notifications? For example you receive a text or get Tweeted at, can you respond?
Thanks for any/all info!
Might go to Best Buy sometime this week and buy one, so would like all info possible!
It is quite different. Mind you, I'm also using custom null on gear 1
There is a mic, but no speaker
Vibrate seems very weak
All notifications get sent to watch. Haven't tested replying yet
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Kind of disappointing that you cannot take a phone call on the Gear Live as you can on the Galaxy Gear and Gear 2.
Surprised I am typing this, but it is a backwards progress vs the Gear 2 as of right now. I dont have any confidence in Samsung long term for developing a capable platform and have all confidence in Google so I will ditch my Neo for it but Android Wear has a way to go.
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Surprised I am typing this, but it is a backwards progress vs the Gear 2 as of right now. I don't have any confidence in Samsung long term for developing a capable platform and have all confidence in Google so I will ditch my Neo for it but Android Wear has a way to go.
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I know everyone have an opinion, but from where I am sitting, this a great leap forward, There are many things that can be improve and with time software will get a lot better, however on my eyes Lives have improved considerable over the Gears 2.