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would you of paid more for better camera and battery ?

just ordered my first nexus phone. iPhone sold on amazon so there is no turning back for me. did not like the g2 being expensive and big. this phone is slightly smaller so i think ill like it more especially without that power button on the back lmao. but one think that won't let me sleep tonight is the low battery and the crappy camera shots taken and posted online already.
if they charged you 100$ more would you of liked to see a 12mp camera like on the xperia z1 and the g2's battery ? or is it fine the way it is at the moment because of the low price ?
besides this phone the only other catching my attention is the Z1s, which is a 4.3 screen so its perfect between the iPhone and a bigger phone like this but most importantly its waterproof and i work in the pool industry as well as having expandable memory via micro sd .... if i don't like the nexus 5 whats the return process like in the google play store and does anyone know any other alternatives besides the Z1s form sony xperia ?

Yes I would have been willing to pay maybe $450 for 3000mah battery. The camera shots I've seen so far seem to be pretty adequate/much improved over N4
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I agree, I'd pay more if it had a bigger battery but not 50 dollars more, maybe 30 but 50 is pushing it a bit for me just for a battery upgrade. As for the camera, as long as they improved it over the N4 I'll be happy.

The Nexus 4 battery has not been a problem for me, so maybe not.

More mehapixels does not mean better pictures, just putting that out there. That being said I wouldn't mind an extra millimeter to depth for a bigger battery, and maybe a little higher price.
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I'll wait to judge the battery when I receive the phone. Camera seems adequate to me. I would pay for a micro sim slot though. 50 bucks for a micro slim? No problem.

randpost said:
I'll wait to judge the battery when I receive the phone. Camera seems adequate to me. I would pay for a micro sim slot though. 50 bucks for a micro slim? No problem.
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It already has a micro sim, but id pay extra for a Micro SD slot

Lewythefly said:
It already has a micro sim, but id pay extra for a Micro SD slot
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LOL, that's what I was thinking of!

Yes. I'm willing to pay like $549 or even $599 if you give me a true flagship.
But knowing the N5's price, I'd say at $599 I'd better be getting 64gb of storage too, maybe a 2MP front camera would be nice too at that point. 1080p right?

Sure, I'd pay more for that. Main attraction of the Nexus range is the developer support, openness, fast updates, pure android, not the price.

Nexus will never be the best of the best. If it was top of the line in every spec, why would you go for any other phone? The nexus would kill all android competition because it would guarantee fast updates along with the best specs. For the sake of android and not screwing other manufacturers, it keeps the competition going but gives a nice price and fast software updates to make up for what it lacks.
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You don't need a better battery, did you see the battery improvements Google made yesterday? All audio processing goes go the dsp to save battery, 4G radios are much more efficient than the G2 or note 3. Things like wifi and 4G are more often in a low powered state. So I reckon battery life should be a beast.
And the camera is perfectly adequate with true HDR
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corythug said:
More mehapixels does not mean better pictures, just putting that out there. That being said I wouldn't mind an extra millimeter to depth for a bigger battery, and maybe a little higher price.
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And a larger sensor on xperia Z1 mean better picture . And it is better .

topgeardave said:
You don't need a better battery, did you see the battery improvements Google made yesterday? All audio processing goes go the dsp to save battery, 4G radios are much more efficient than the G2 or note 3. Things like wifi and 4G are more often in a low powered state. So I reckon battery life should be a beast.
And the camera is perfectly adequate with true HDR
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Where can i read that information ? Source please
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Yes I want to know the same thing.. Please provide the source of your information.. Thanks
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I was willing to pay 450 euros for a 32 gb+ 3000 mah version :crying: not more than that, hey the LG G2 costs 466 euros (the 16 gb version) so it shouldnt be more expensive than that ... I traded a 3000 mah battery (MAJOR thing for me) and a good camera for stock android (most important thing to me) a matte finish, buttons on the sides, hopeit's worth it google

I'd pay more if they offer me :
1. 3000+ mah battery
2. dual stereo front facing speaker like htc one series
3. micro sd slot
4. maybe slightly more screen size, about 5.3 inch perhaps?
if only nexus 5 have those 4, that will be the most perfect phone this year.

I'd definitely pay more for battery and storage options. I did the math and the manufacturing cost difference between G2 and N5 can't be more than 5 euro!
So yes I'd pay 100 euro on top of 32GB version for a 64 gb version with a bigger battery.
If kitkat will be better in power management, the improvement will apply to a 3,000mAh battery as well!!
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For me it's just fine.
I only don't mind to pay until 50€ more so that I could buy it directly from Play Store with no need to use tricks like proxys and forward services.

The General sections on XDA are for tips/tricks/guides/howtos/news or some sort of actual content relevant to the Nexus 5 . Hypothetical situations, opinions, etc don't really belong here.
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[Q] Is this phone still worth buying?

Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?

Descendent182 said:
Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?
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That's a pretty good price... but I wouldn't buy this phone for $150 (Way too many problems with it to fit in 1 post).
The main problems with it:
-Terrible performance in Samsung Jelly Bean (very slow, slightly laggy in scrolling, not enough RAM to keep 2 apps in memory at the same time)
-Appalling performance in AOSP firmwares (extremely fast, terribly laggy in scrolling) - that's Samsungs fault due to them not giving a rats ass about devs
-Black clipping with the screen
-A legacy phone now (No more official updates, fewer devs)
If your GF doesn't mind a small screen and probably an inferior camera to the Note's then she should get the Moto.

Descendent182 said:
Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?
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150 would be spot on for value, imho. If the N7000 is in peak condition. Is it better then a moto G? No. I would say the moto G is slightly better. But the note does have some things going for it: Bigger, Better screen (IMHO) and the stylus.
I would only recommend it with a custom rom. Stock firmware is not good.
I would not trade my N7000 for a moto G.

It is a legacy device.. still pretty good with stock jellybean.. yes a bit slow but gb firmware can always come in handy! yet I suggest you to leave a 2.5 year old device and get the moto g with stock 4.4 latest update!

Go with the Moto G. You'll get official KitKat, future updates and a fresher community here at XDA. You're basically buying a "dead" device if you choose the Note.
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Ok, I'll stick with moto g then, thanks!

Descriptions above are generally correct, however there are things not to forget (from my personal experience, I still own the Note):
1. Much larger screen
2. SD card slot (mine was effectively 48 GB)
3. Replaceable battery (2 times already replaced for ~$15 a piece)
4. Better camera
If I was forced to choose between the two it'd be real hard for me.

tatkovladko said:
Descriptions above are generally correct, however there are things not to forget (from my personal experience, I still own the Note):
1. Much larger screen
2. SD card slot (mine was effectively 48 GB)
3. Replaceable battery (2 times already replaced for ~$15 a piece)
4. Better camera
If I was forced to choose between the two it'd be real hard for me.
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I would still go for the Note 2. Not to be bias, but since the Note 2 is getting cheaper now, it's a good choice due to it's screen size, performance and the support u can get here at XDA.
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Descendent182 said:
Hi, someone is trying to sell my gf this phone for about 150 USD, Is it better than a moto g? Is it still worth buying?
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I would say it is worth buying for that price.
I haven't played with a Moto G so I don't know if it is better or not.
The Samsung Note is still a great phone is you run the right ROM.
I have had mine since it was released and can't see any great reason to upgrade as it does everything I need it to do.
I don't get my phones on contract, I tend to buy them outright and get a cheap SIM only deal.
There are lots of customised stock ROMs with the Samsung UI and apps for the S-Pen.
Or there are many awesome vanilla-esque tweaked KitKat ROMs such as Omni and Dirty Unicorns.
Watch out for a phone that won't charge.
Could be a damaged USB daughter board (about £35 in the UK at Samsung repair centre).
Or could be a knackered battery (about £30 from Samsung, good alternatives from Anser etc. for under £20)
Also...............
The camera is awesome.
You can slot anything up to 64Gb SD card into the Note, depending upon ROM/Kernel.
It is very well built.
But don't expect any further Samsung support, your support will be through Google and XDA.

Note ftw
Having tried both phones (moto g has a friend of mine and i am a proud owner of a Note), i can assure you it is great value for money for the price you said. Here in greece it is sold around 230$ for a used one. You should consider buying it if you want a bigger and better screen (AMOLED = deeper blacks and more vibrant colours), a stylus, more cases, back covers, huge batteries(3000 mAh +) and generally more accessories . Also keep in mind that with a stock rom (many crapsung apps and stuff in it...) it is a bit sluggish and you better go custom (or else it is not worth it IMHO). Since it is a rather popular phone there are many custom roms with kitkat at the moment. I choose roms compiled with linaro or sabermod toolchains since they are a lot smoother(my note is more buttery smooth compared to my cousin's stock galaxy s4) and more battery friendly than other custom roms. I use the Slimsaber rom and never thought of changing to another phone since then

Nexus 5 gen 2

The specs I can see in the second gen nexus 5 is a:
5.1 inch QHD IPS LCD screen
K1 64bit processor
3GB RAM
2800MAh battery
16GB 32GB and later on a 64GB of internal storage one
The first Nexus with a sd card slot since the Nexus One
13mp back camera and 2mp front
Android L 64bit

And they might call it.. the Nexus 6!

ChronoReverse said:
And they might call it.. the Nexus 6!
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Lol I doubt that unless it will be around 6 inches which I can't see happening unless it will have a 5.5 inch screen.

5 mp front
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raventothepowerofpi said:
The specs I can see in the second gen nexus 5 is a:
5.1 inch QHD IPS LCD screen
K1 64bit processor
3GB RAM
2800MAh battery
16GB 32GB and later on a 64GB of internal storage one
The first Nexus with a sd card slot since the Nexus One
13mp back camera and 2mp front
Android L 64bit
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I like it!
But I'd like to offer not less 3000MAh battery and 5,5 inch QHD IPS LCD screen.
Also it is nessesary not less 5mp front camera and FM tuner.

crisis_trustee said:
I like it!
But I'd like to offer not less 3000MAh battery and 5,5 inch QHD IPS LCD screen.
Also it is nessesary not less 5mp front camera and FM tuner.
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Anything could happen but truthfully I am basing this on how nobody could figure out what would happen with the Nexus 5 and had a lot less specs than most rumors yet still has amazing performance and the battery life is pretty good for it's size because of it being pure Android. An FM radio chip would be amazing but in order for that to work they would have to ship earbuds with the device which I do not see happening.

raventothepowerofpi said:
The specs I can see in the second gen nexus 5 is a:
5.1 inch QHD IPS LCD screen
K1 64bit processor
3GB RAM
2800MAh battery
16GB 32GB and later on a 64GB of internal storage one
The first Nexus with a sd card slot since the Nexus One
13mp back camera and 2mp front
Android L 64bit
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more then likely it will be a 2500MAh battery and 2GB of RAM and also not worth upgrading. google always puts ****ty batteries in their phones.

svengalis said:
more then likely it will be a 2500MAh battery and 2GB of RAM and also not worth upgrading. google always puts ****ty batteries in their phones.
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Eh, they are really good with battery optimization so they don't usually need a big battery, why I said 2800mah instead if 3000mah+ and said 3gb of ram because they wouldn't make a 3rd one with 2gb of ram I would assume, but then again Samsung did that with the S5.

crisis_trustee said:
... and FM tuner.
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No please keep it cheap to buy!

Ltdrev said:
No please keep it cheap to buy!
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It'll probably stay 350 USD unless the lowest memory version is 32gb then it will likely be 400 USD lol

raventothepowerofpi said:
It'll probably stay 350 USD unless the lowest memory version is 32gb then it will likely be 400 USD lol
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Just hope they don't start adding too much bells n whissles like Sumsumg, Soony and other LGg's products...

Ltdrev said:
Just hope they don't start adding too much bells n whissles like Sumsumg, Soony and other LGg's products...
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It doesn't matter how much they add as long as they keep the good price, the other stuff it just a plus

raventothepowerofpi said:
It doesn't matter how much they add as long as they keep the good price, the other stuff it just a plus
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Hope they include some LSD!

There's a thread on this already.
>*Google Nexus 5*>*Nexus 5 General*>*Google Nexus 6 - What do you think?

^^^ THIS.
Please use the existing thread as noted above.

Moto/Droid Turbo/Maxx vs OnePlus Two

So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
Let the Opinions roll!

sHanKzZz said:
So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
Let the Opinions roll!
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Opinion is the OnePlus is ALMOST a top tier phone.
Leaving out 1440p to go with 1080p is debatable. I can see the argument for 1080p, especially with a 3300 mAh battery, would be a comfort to some people to really go two days without charging. I prefer 1440p, but that's my opinion.
What's NOT debatable is the the strange reason no NFC, no Turbo charging (Quick Charge 2.0), no Qi wireless charging. For a an allegedly top spec Android in 2nd half of 2015, that hurts badly. Yes, everything else was done right (rear camera OIS with laser focus, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, etc). How much more would it have cost them to include those items? Another $50? The total cost would still have been less than $450.
We don't want just the cheapest phone. We want the cheapest phone with the best specs. I need Qi wireless especially. And Turbo charging has proved very valuable. And even the iPhone now finally has NFC. Android had it first. How can a top tier Android NOT have NFC?

Well, agreed, it does make a few compromises. But I am assuming that with the 1080p screen and 3300 MaH battery, the OnePlus Two should last enough to be able to be plugged in at night, when it really doesn't matter if you have QuickCharge or not. I won't be surprised if the OnePlus Two's real life battery performance turns out to be better than the Turbo's, actually.
So after that, given the list of pros (Better Camera, Better Performance, Extreme Value) and cons (Slightly big for one hand use, No NFC and No Qi charging, not a deal breaker for many I am assuming), is it still ok to go buy the Turbo at it's current price?

sHanKzZz said:
So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
Let the Opinions roll!
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Well, agreed, it does make a few compromises. But I am assuming that with the 1080p screen and 3300 MaH battery, the OnePlus Two should last enough to be able to be plugged in at night, when it really doesn't matter if you have QuickCharge or not. I won't be surprised if the OnePlus Two's real life battery performance turns out to be better than the Turbo's, actually.
So after that, given the list of pros (Better Camera, Better Performance, Extreme Value) and cons (Slightly big for one hand use, No NFC and No Qi charging, not a deal breaker for many I am assuming), is it still ok to go buy the Turbo at it's current price?
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I would recommend the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo for you instead of the XT1254 Droid Turbo. Unless you specifically need LTE band 13 or CDMA bands.
See this post for why...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...nt-shipped-t3158954/post62076085#post62076085

sHanKzZz said:
So now we have the new OnePlus Two with a bigger battery, better processor, more RAM, probably a better camera too, and all that at a much cheaper price. Is the Turbo still worth it?
650$ for the Turbo vs 400$ for the OnePlus Two where I am.
Let the Opinions roll!
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ChazzMatt said:
I would recommend the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo for you instead of the XT1254 Droid Turbo. Unless you specifically need LTE band 13 or CDMA bands.
See this post for why...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...nt-shipped-t3158954/post62076085#post62076085
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The Moto Maxx/Turbo is the way to go, I think is the "all in one" phone that you would ever need.
The only negative point for me is the lack of OIS on camera, but besides that, there is no other phone currently that can give you all the features that this phone has.

OnePlus is all hype.
Here's their strategy...
1- talk about bleeding edge specs
2- make 10 phones that supposedly hit that spec for photo purposes
3- tweet and post like mad about how great their beautiful new phone is and how much everyone wants it.
4- after 6 months of hype and the cost of the device comes in line with mainstream specs, make and release a few thousand phones that include ridiculous contests.
5- when the specs are no longer anything more than ok and production costs have dropped significantly so the once-hyped phone can be manufactured inexpensively but still retains the image of a high end device... release to the general public for market comparable price and reap the rewards.
6- repeat...

No argument there. One+ marketing sucks. By the time you can actually get the phone, it isn't cutting edge (if it ever was), and I've completely lost interest.

My oneplus one had better battery than my droid turbo/moto maxx, and i had no problem getting a one, also
i live in mexico,im not even a US citizen and i managed to get one, i dont know what hate de you guys have with the invite sistem, just put your mail and eventually youll get an invite.
i know im getting a oneplus two

Well, good for you. MANY people wanted a OnePlus last year that could not easily get one for to their stupid invitation system. The Two will likely be the same.
Enjoy your OnePlus.

It's 2017 - is the Moto X (2014) still recommended?

I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?

Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.

Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus

Thanks for your feedback , a few questions to keep this going if you dont mind ...
huatz84 said:
prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
huatz84 said:
The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?

I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.

I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!