Why are people hating on this phone? - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

I've had it for two weeks now and I just don't get the hate. I mean it's no Galaxy S3 but the phone does it job, and well. People have complimented me a lot on how beautiful the phone looks, and especially the screen. Gaming is very good on this device, I can play games that I couldn't play on the Xperia Play (which was marketed as a gaming device) and it has a lot of great features. It has a inbuilt task manager which works really well, so I can't understand people complaining about the phone lagging. It hasn't lagged for me once and I'm using A LOT of heavy apps like Facebook, FB messenger, Whatsapp, Twitter, Viber, Instagram and Skype. And if the phone would lag you can just use the task manager and it kills the apps which a lot of other phones can't do well. When I read this forum section y'all scared me to dead and I honestly think some of you are a bit overdramatic about this phones performance. For a $200 phone, this is a great device. The only flaws are the battery life and the speaker. Multitasking is great, gaming is great, Browsing is smooth, camera is excellent and it's just does it job...
Is there something else I'm missing? How is this such a bad phone as some are claiming it to be?
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Kevinkdc said:
I've had it for two weeks now and I just don't get the hate. I mean it's no Galaxy S3 but the phone does it job, and well. People have complimented me a lot on how beautiful the phone looks, and especially the screen. Gaming is very good on this device, I can play games that I couldn't play on the Xperia Play (which was marketed as a gaming device) and it has a lot of great features. It has a inbuilt task manager which works really well, so I can't understand people complaining about the phone lagging. It hasn't lagged for me once and I'm using A LOT of heavy apps like Facebook, FB messenger, Whatsapp, Twitter, Viber, Instagram and Skype. And if the phone would lag you can just use the task manager and it kills the apps which a lot of other phones can't do well. When I read this forum section y'all scared me to dead and I honestly think some of you are a bit overdramatic about this phones performance. For a $200 phone, this is a great device. The only flaws are the battery life and the speaker. Multitasking is great, gaming is great, Browsing is smooth, camera is excellent and it's just does it job...
Is there something else I'm missing? How is this such a bad phone as some are claiming it to be?
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It has to do with development and htc's complete lack of structure while building the OS...
And all the interdependence on the HTC framework...
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rignfool said:
It has to do with development and htc's complete lack of structure while building the OS...
And all the interdependence on the HTC framework...
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Please.... earth language. lol

Kevinkdc said:
Please.... earth language. lol
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Probably the biggest gripe with the phone is how hard HTC made it to dev for. The guys that can get stuff to work on JB ROMs are amazing. Getting sound to work is a real pain, data and WiFi are difficult to get working. It is totally cool if you leave it stock, although there is a lot of bloat (typical of all phones) and the "android is upgrading 4 of 120" gets very tedious. But I agree with you, the phone itself looks good, it has lots of nice features. I was happy with stock for the longest time, but ran into some really weird problems that have never happened to anyone else. Now I am S-Off and running a 4.2.2 (Jellybean) ROM and loving it.

Also this phones build quality is terrible. My power button is already broken and the volume buttons are losing their chrome

I'll say this about the phone - with a custom JB 4.2 ROM (like the unofficial AoCP ROM floating around) this thing is a beast. I mean that in a good way. It's fast ... 4G LTE speeds are phenomenal ... no lag that I can detect, no soft reboots (or hard reboots like with CM 10.2 on the Samsung Captivate, one of which I also have), the rear camera is adequate, and so far on mine all of the buttons still work. (It used to be my daughter's, then it sat in a drawer for more than six months because 4.0.4 ICS and Sense 3.6 didn't really seem to get along, but hey, it was cheap :silly.
AoCP's 6.2 (JB 4.3) for the Cappy is quite nice, and I wish it could be ported over to the Vivid. I like the animations for the information windows and menus, but on the Cappy it really began dragging. No such problems with the Vivid. Although it's an older phone, for me it represents an upgrade. Will I wind up getting another, newer phone in the future? Possibly. For now, though, I like the Vivid.

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Are you addicted to Android?

Just curious as to peoples addiction to android?
Myself now have owned 7 different androids phones. I have the inc2 and wife has commando. We each have tablets. Me the Asus slide and she has the prime. Sunday we bought the Sony Blueray Google TV.
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Not yet. This Galaxy S2 is my first android phone coming from iPhone. Must say I love it though even convinced the wife to switch to the same phone from her iPhone
Maybe I would be addicted to android if I wasn't addicted to cocaine.
I use it more than my laptop once I got miui running on my G2X
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Maybe i would be addicted to android if jaszek wouldnt be addicted to cocaine.
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Yup, agree. Maybe we should make an intervention thread.
Someone say cocain?
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Rolling another green android as we speak.
I am definitely addicted to Android since discovering MIUI.us 2.2.3. Take the best features of IOS, add to it the best features of Android, throw in a liberal dose of nuance, style and flair and you have the perfect ROM.
I never thought i'd be saying this but it really is an order of magnitude better than Cyanogenmod. The infamous Android lag is all but gone! The N1 touchscreen wonks..gone! It's like i died and woke up in smartphone heaven. Most of the apps i used to use i don't need any more. Decent File Browser? Check. Decent Browser? Check. Decent SMS/Dialer/Alarm? Check!
What i don't need in a ROM are a hundred features that i have to turn off because i don't use them. What i do need in a ROM are core features that just work well. Consider me converted!
I seriously wouldn't trade my two year old phone for anything on the market right now, not even if it were free. Not a chance!
Wich phone you own?
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Agree, and this is why MIUI has to port it to the Galaxy Note. I used MIUI on my Desire HD, and this is the one thing i miss the most. TouchPizz is a bloated resource hog that must die.
TouchPiss. YU NO LIKE???
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It's too "heavy". I like them light, fast and stable.
Android is my passion, I should get help lol
LordManhattan said:
Agree, and this is why MIUI has to port it to the Galaxy Note. I used MIUI on my Desire HD, and this is the one thing i miss the most. TouchPizz is a bloated resource hog that must die.
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It depend on which touchwiz. Touchwiz 4 is actually optimized for the phone it is on. That's why it never lags. But touchwiz 3 is a complete different story.
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Yeah you're right, but i just don't like it in the same way i don't like Sense. It's just too much
I'm hooked on IceCremeSandwich's with no-sense!
pure curiosity
first, i have the android phone, then switch to iOS then at now, android again feeling to be more comfy with android (though iOS still rocks on perf and display)
but guess, loving now android coz to put my dev-inside
MIUI.us is working out so well for me. I have apps that never worked well on CM7 that are working perfectly now. The famous N1 touchscreen wonk has disappeared completely, (which is a miracle in itself), and not only are the stock apps better than AOSP, (Gallery, you know i'm talking about you), but they're better than the usual replacements. (Sorry, Quickpic).
A big plus is a beautiful U.I that is consistent throughout the software and on par with IOS. It's like somebody read my mind and made a bespoke ROM for me! It's all the little touches too. The nice animations, the way the music fades out when you pause it, (not to mention Lyrics support and a pretty visualisation), options for re-ordering Bookmarks in the Browser, a good Notes app, in built backup for apps, system and theme. It's incredibly fast and smooth too. Without the OC i had in CM7 it actually performs better!
Pics for the uninitiated:
How about a stock Data usage app, or a Firewall:
How good is that?
I love my android phone...
Still my first (galaxy mini), but i hope my next one will be better...

[Q] Why does android's standby time suck?

I've used around 5 Android phones (starting from 2.1 now up to 4.3) and for some reason, they all have a pathetic standby time. When I say standby, I mean when you press the power button and it turns the screen off and you don't touch it. Why is android the only OS that has this problem? WP, fine. IOS, probably the best one (only good thing about it).
I've tried different kernels, using no apps from the play store at all, turning off Google's location service, using greenify, and a bunch more. My battery still drops to ~70% at 4:00 starting at 100 at 7:00. When I briefly had an iphone and windows phone, I always was amazed at how my battery was around ~90-95% at 4:00. I know most people actually USE their phone during the day, so its probably not as noticeable.
Does anyone know the real reason for this? By real, I mean the deep down reason for this. Is java just a hog?
I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.
celelivada said:
I think the main reason is the backround apps that are running. I used my old sensation just as a phone and so I deleted all the apps from it (Facebook, Viber etc.) and the phone lasted 5-6 days on standby with a 1 year old batery. Before I removed those apps I couldnt get 2 days on standby. I think backgrounfd apps in Android are allowed more "freedom" so they use up the CPU while on standby. That is my experience and opinion.
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Yeah I thought that, but I said I tried it with no apps installed. Same thing.
Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.
i disagree
My battery drains 1% every six hours
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ingenious247 said:
Weird, I don't experience that kind of massive stand by drain.
If I turn my screen off or let it time out, my phone can sit for a almost a couple of days before it shuts down - sometimes two full days. This was true with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, and now the One.
So I have no clue what you're talking about, generalizing Android like that.
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I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.
Mine also has great standby time...
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aooga said:
I'm generalizing Android because I was talking about "Stock" android. Not what we do here. I really have to find a fix for this. I dont know what I'm doing wrong here.
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I am talking about stock Android as well. I have had great battery life with my last three phones.
I've had no such problems with "android" in general. Some roms / apps yes. But after fixing those issues it was pretty much what would have been expected / what reviewers/other people get.
I would recommend getting something like gsam battery monitor and let it run at least a day and then post some screenshots. Maybe we can give some concrete advice then.
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Speed up your rooted mate 7

Afternoon all now firstly this is not an add Ian in no way affiliated.
I tried out a program call L Speed found on the play store and after applying some settings my phone feels new again very snappy, antutus 3d section has never worked for me but after using this program it now works, don't know why but it does. Give it a try and see what you think.
Cheers
John
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One of the kernel modifiers that works by altering setting in RAM. You can get improvements for sure but be careful.
I used to run a kernel modding app in KitKat ROM but now on Lollipop the phone runs nice without it so I don't use a kernel tuning app anymore.
I have Xposed but even then, only a minimal number of modules. You can create an unstable device by these types of mods.
Can you tell us which settings exactly you have in L Speed? A screenshot would be enough because when I tried it I didn't see any improvement
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I'm probably as big of a skeptic as you get when it comes to these miracle "speed up your phone now!" kind of apps, but hear me out:
I installed this after it popped up whilst lazily scrolling through the Play Store. I remembered reading a post title about it somewhere and figured I might as well laugh at the massive scam when it starts asking for IAPs or something.
But wow, it really helps. I mean it has only been running for about 30 minutes, so I can't say much for the battery life improvements etc, but here's what has noticeably improved thus far:
- "Smoothness": Enabling the UI tweaks rewarded me with buttery smooth scrolling, window switching, even SwiftKey (which, whilst being a great keyboard for a multi-lingual, has always fallen behind others in terms of smoothness) is now on IOS levels of responsive, for now. I'm running 5.1.1 (B324), which is already a massive improvement over the choppy mess that was 4.4.4, but this made animation smoothness on-par with the latest flagships.
- App loading times: Vastly improved. The HAM7 isn't bad at this, but not exactly great either. I'm assuming it's the IO tweaks that 'fixes' this, as app loading times are way quicker. Even the app switching window, which is notoriously slow to load up on the HAM7, opens up very hastily (not instantly, but MUCH faster than usual), even when you have 3-5 pages of apps open. Hell, even the camera doesn't waste time opening.
And perhaps the most impressive improvement: Faster streaming. I know, this sounds like snake-oil, right? Wrong. I live in East Africa, our internet here is horrifically slow compared to European countries (my company has a 7mb/s line, which is one of the fastest lines available in our area). Streaming a video in 1080p is something one can only dream of. I took a quick look at YouTube, ramping the quality up to 1080p, and it plays! I mean I still have to leave it for around ten seconds to buffer a little, but after that I'm golden. I'm baffled, I honestly don't want to believe it, but yet it's happening right before my eyes. I will test this on other streaming services (Netflix and ShowBox) later and update this post with my findings.
So there you go. A totally skeptical non-believer converted in 30 minutes. I can't tell you how this works, all I can say is that it does, at least in my case. The HAM7 running 5.1.1 really isn't bad in terms of every day performance, but this makes it a lot more bearable (I hate EMUI).
I'll update this post with further findings tomorrow.
My divice is unrooted and Benchmark result i better!?
ronnie72 said:
My divice is unrooted and Benchmark result i better!?
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Impossible. This application uses modifications that are impossible to make or you're unrooted.
I think what he is saying he hasn't used L Speed and gets a better score?
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I think what he is saying he hasn't used L Speed and gets a better score?
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Yes, not used L Speed and the phone never been rooted.
Well I don't know about your phone but this has given new life
To mine,very snappy.
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Lots of factors affect it. Rooting and modding can slow it down, for instance I can assure you installing ViPER4Android will slow it down, but sounds oh so good.
Don't use viper. But yes depending on the amount of apps etc does affect it. Using always on display now and love it and not really much of a battery hog, I love coming back to my phone and don't even touch it just glance to see if I have missed anything.
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That looks great, where do you get it from?
http://www.androidsage.com/2016/04/...and-samsung-galaxy-s7-on-your-android-device/
That's the link is not on play store.
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Should I get one?

Hello dear XDA friends, Although I don't post a lot I still love you all .
Anyway, I am really tempted to get a Mate S ($/€319) after my LG G3's screen basically broke in half, the battery exploded and the touchscreen only working 10%, it's basically useless right now and I need a phone to replace it for a while until I decide what's going to be my ''real'' phone (I hate Apple but the 7+ Camera is amazing but then again maybe note 7 refurbs will be cheap.) So yeah I need to bridge the gap and I want to gift it to a relative when I'm done with it.
So is it worth it for 300 bucks?
Hi,
I have the phone since 3 months now (rooted and latest rom version) and it is in overall very good but the battery. Screen is very great but although there are a good device manager, it doesn't stand a full day without reloading.
Also you can see from the different posts that this phone is not very popular among Android's cooks. So not a lot of answers and not a lot of tricks and tweaks. I regret the time I had a Nexus 4 where community was very active. Anyway, as I am really focused on battery life, this is the real flaw of this phone for me. But I guess there are not many phones that could do better.
dai75 said:
Hi,
I have the phone since 3 months now (rooted and latest rom version) and it is in overall very good but the battery. Screen is very great but although there are a good device manager, it doesn't stand a full day without reloading.
Also you can see from the different posts that this phone is not very popular among Android's cooks. So not a lot of answers and not a lot of tricks and tweaks. I regret the time I had a Nexus 4 where community was very active. Anyway, as I am really focused on battery life, this is the real flaw of this phone for me. But I guess there are not many phones that could do better.
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What's the longest screen on time you got?
It actually depends what you gonna do with this phone.
I own it for last 8 months never really felt need for better battery during normal usage.
My typical usage with all the time brightness at auto and slider at max ( which on huawei even when inside usually means 80-90% brightness ) and outside always even when is dim day is 100% or boosted screen mode ends up with average 4:30-5h SOT with around 18-20hrs on battery. This is with about 60% wifi 40% 3g.
This includes bunch of social apps, youtube , music, calls, sms, light gaming of around 1hr per day.
The great thing about this phone is its soc and screen, the to S-amoled it never gets hot thus for it doesn't drain battery life fast like snapdragon devices.
Biggest fall of this soc is its GPU it isn't as good for heavy games like s810 devices for example.
If you're not a gamer I highly suggest this phone. If you have more money I suggest p9+, its a beast in all regards.
Here my current battery life stats
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What's the longest screen on time you got?
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As you can see, I charged my phone and unplugged at 00.14. Wi-Fi off and no mobile data, no screen on. No apps running apart from home launcher and myProfile. All others are greenified. So in around 8h sleep it decreased by 20%.
I tried many tricks and I consider myself skilful for this (my LG G2 could last 3 days) but cannot do better with this one. The ROM is not good enough yet and update frequency is not good.
Got the LG G4 so this one can be closed

P9 coming tomorrow

Hey
My fiance got a P9 lite a few weeks ago.
Loving vanilla Android, I actually liked the P9 lite. Especially the 3 battery mode settings.
Her battery life seems to be pretty good, better than my Nexus 5x. So I ordered one.
Any tips for when I receive it?
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Well, it not really is vanilla android what you find on the P9. For me it is more a iOS themed android. Which is not bad, esthetics are really nice if you'd ask me. However, as a first thing I installed a launcher which I use for many years now (around 5) because I kinda need an app drawer.
Besides, you should get familiar with so called "protected apps". The selection makes sure a nice balance between push notifications and battery life.
Third, have a look at the accessories threads. I dont know if you usually use cases but I highly recommend the barely there case. It doesnt destroy the design of the phone.
Lastly, have a play with the camera. Especially the bokeh mode is astonishing.
Have fun with the phone, mate.
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Well, it not really is vanilla android what you find on the P9. For me it is more a iOS themed android. Which is not bad, esthetics are really nice if you'd ask me. However, as a first thing I installed a launcher which I use for many years now (around 5) because I kinda need an app drawer.
Besides, you should get familiar with so called "protected apps". The selection makes sure a nice balance between push notifications and battery life.
Third, have a look at the accessories threads. I dont know if you usually use cases but I highly recommend the barely there case. It doesnt destroy the design of the phone.
Lastly, have a play with the camera. Especially the bokeh mode is astonishing.
Have fun with the phone, mate.
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I meant that I normally like pure Android, but I actually liked the P9, despite not being pure Android.
Thanks for the tips
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oTToToTenTanz said:
Well, it not really is vanilla android what you find on the P9. For me it is more a iOS themed android. Which is not bad, esthetics are really nice if you'd ask me. However, as a first thing I installed a launcher which I use for many years now (around 5) because I kinda need an app drawer.
Besides, you should get familiar with so called "protected apps". The selection makes sure a nice balance between push notifications and battery life.
Third, have a look at the accessories threads. I dont know if you usually use cases but I highly recommend the barely there case. It doesnt destroy the design of the phone.
Lastly, have a play with the camera. Especially the bokeh mode is astonishing.
Have fun with the phone, mate.
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Is there any harm setting the protected apps to all off?
Depends what app it is,
I just have these protected, I also use nova launcher so I have an app drawer and can resize icons.
Other than the lack of app drawer, I think the os is fantastic, really quick, I prefer it to vanilla android.
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Depends what app it is,
I just have these protected, I also use nova launcher so I have an app drawer and can resize icons.
Other than the lack of app drawer, I think the os is fantastic, really quick, I prefer it to vanilla android.
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Hey
Ok, I'm still getting what's app messages even with these off,
I agree, this OS is pretty good, way more geeky options than the vanilla Android
oxfordmark said:
Hey
My fiance got a P9 lite a few weeks ago.
Loving vanilla Android, I actually liked the P9 lite. Especially the 3 battery mode settings.
Her battery life seems to be pretty good, better than my Nexus 5x. So I ordered one.
Any tips for when I receive it?
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You should definitely try out some of the themes on here.

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