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Since i heard that Google will not release a Nexus two, i though they might be heading for the NexusTab maybe?? since they said that the Nexus one is for setting the bar for other Android phones for higher specs and maybe the NexusTab or what ever its called will be released to set the bar high for Android Tablets..
What do you think?
The only android tablets I would ever consider would be the ones that Nvidia is making to launch their Tegra 2 Line. Archos is pretty good, but they use old Android versions.
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The only android tablets I would ever consider would be the ones that Nvidia is making to launch their Tegra 2 Line. Archos is pretty good, but they use old Android versions.
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yes the Tegra 2 line is the best! if its ever a reality..
johnnie93 said:
Since i heard that Google will not release a Nexus two, i though they might be heading for the NexusTab maybe?? since they said that the Nexus one is for setting the bar for other Android phones for higher specs and maybe the NexusTab or what ever its called will be released to set the bar high for Android Tablets..
What do you think?
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The OP brings up an interesting thought in a round about way. What if the next developer phone wasn't really a phone at all, but rather a tablet? It falls nicely in line with developing for the Android platform while giving developers the best hardware available for mobile development and it might make more sense for Google to get behind the tablet platform moving forward than the phone platform...
Pure speculation and just an interesting thought.
if gingerbread is the future of android devices, it suppose to support hardware capabilities that may not be on the nexus that has been around for a while.
i really wanted to buy a nexus, but it seems that when android 3.0 is out - it should be followed by high end devices by HTC and others.
i really don't know what to do here...
gingerbread is said to launch mid november - not a long time to hold off.
but hey, what do think? wait or buy nexus now?
That is Exactly what I am doing! The desire HD looks wonderful, but i think There will be a VERY nice phone coming on T mobile with new gingerbread already there around Christmas....Just my guess
It seems T mobile and Google have some sort of special deal when it comes to android, like getting stock android phones.....and there MUST be a stock gingerbread phone coming soon!
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if gingerbread is the future of android devices, it suppose to support hardware capabilities that may not be on the nexus that has been around for a while.
i really wanted to buy a nexus, but it seems that when android 3.0 is out - it should be followed by high end devices by HTC and others.
i really don't know what to do here...
gingerbread is said to launch mid november - not a long time to hold off.
but hey, what do think? wait or buy nexus now?
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First, Gingerbread will run fine on a N1. Second, no matter when you buy a phone in a couple months another one will come out that is even better. The N1 has an awesome modding scene though.
First, Gingerbread will run fine on a N1.
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nobody know that for sure...the minimal requirements may suit the N1 but it may lack the ability to perform certain tasks. we've seen it happen with other phones.
Second, no matter when you buy a phone in a couple months another one will come out that is even better
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true for most cases. to me nexus is different from others by design. that phone feels right. i really couldn't care less about all these samsungs or motorolas that are out there. and other htc devices seem too big like the desire HD that was mentioned.
basicly, the world need a NEXUS TWO!
So you think Google will develop an OS using their development phone, but not all features of the OS will work on the phone they developed it on? I highly doubt that. Google debunked the minimum requirements roomer for Gingerbread, that was nothing but a site trying to get traffic. Do a little thinking on the subject.
If I were getting a new phone soon though, I would wait till the next gen ones come out. I do love my Nexus though!
the nexus one was a success in regard of telling the world "this is what android can do right now". others did follow and it is biting the market share making other mobile OS look like code accidents.
none the less, why shouldn't gingerbread allow "facetime like" video service for capable devices? the technology for that is in the wild. that is only one example. i am sure there are more features just like that.
at this point, maybe it would be smarter to wait.
oronm said:
the nexus one was a success in regard of telling the world "this is what android can do right now". others did follow and it is biting the market share making other mobile OS look like code accidents.
none the less, why shouldn't gingerbread allow "facetime like" video service for capable devices? the technology for that is in the wild. that is only one example. i am sure there are more features just like that.
at this point, maybe it would be smarter to wait.
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Whether or not Gingerbread includes a facetime like option is irrelevant to how it will run on the N1. Obviously any phone without a front-facing camera will not be able to do something like facetime. Gingerbread itself will run just fine on the N1. Without going into any technical reasons, just think of this. Of all the Android phones out there right now, the top ones are all in the general vicinity of the N1 in performance. If Gingerbread wouldn't run on the N1, then you cut out these phones too which means only as-yet-unreleased phones would run Gingerbread. So on what basis are you questioning it?
You should probably wait though since you don't seem sure about the N1. The only guarantee you can have is that in a few months from now an even better phone will be released. And then a few months from that once again, and repeat... Dual core snapdragons will start finding their way into phones at some point soon. If you're not rushed then just wait and see what comes out.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/nexus-4-battery-shot-reveals-potential-quality-issues/
This does NOT look promising on top of the already established problems with the hard-/software Not amused.
Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
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Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
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For real I haven't seen any reviews on the lock screen widgets But yet ready to crush to sweet phone My Gnexus just died last night I even tried omap flasher no dice, And no joke I snapped that ***** right in half.. Talk about build quality, UGH!! Went back to my xperia play :crying: For Now:good: So any reviews pictures from haters, Really doesn't affect my decision on getting this device...
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Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
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That article is solely about potential hardware issues. Hardware is not likely to be changed since the phone goes on sale next week.
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I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
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yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
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eep2378 said:
That article is solely about potential hardware issues. Hardware is not likely to be changed since the phone goes on sale next week.
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haha made by LG :silly::silly:
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yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
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Maybe Samsung will document something useful by then
yahyoh said:
yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
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haha made by LG :silly::silly:
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Drool. I still can't shake thinking about this damn Nexus 4, but extremely annoyed at the negative press and issues it has not even being released it.
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Maybe Samsung will document something useful by then
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i really think nexus 10 with help a lot with exynos 5 development but i really hope sammy will do some documentation and release working platform source
like galaxy s1 and nexus s
yahyoh said:
i really think nexus 10 with help a lot with exynos 5 development but i really hope sammy will do some documentation and release working platform source
like galaxy s1 and nexus s
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Don't get your hopes up Here's some great reading about the issues CM maintainers have with Sammy https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F
He'll be updating this periodically.
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yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
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I'm not sure about that, I had high expectations concerning the GS3 and it turned out to be a huge disappointment.
(less Ram compared to the GS2, what a joke).
Until Samsung releases proper documentation Exynos devices are not an option for me anyway.
For a budget device I really don't see this as a huge issue of course they had to make some shortcuts to get such a low sell price. I'm still planning on getting the n4 on release day.
Sure is a bit concerning seeing things like this even before release, but hopefully things will be improved upon down the line with revisions and whatnot. Shame, on the outside its such a beautiful device.
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I'm not sure about that, I had high expectations concerning the GS3 and it turned out to be a huge disappointment.
(less Ram compared to the GS2, what a joke).
Until Samsung releases proper documentation Exynos devices are not an option for me anyway.
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with JB ram back to 833mb
Is that a review unit or a prerelease "With Google" version? Doesn't seem to say.
Wait for the device to come out guys. Wait for a proper teardown. Stop freaking.
AdamOutler is an awesome hacker but he is also a huge Samsung fanboy (like if it wasn't enough with the apple ones) so I take this article as a very biased opinion, I have a LG P500 since january 2011 and never had hardware issues or reception problems and of course I droped it several times.
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Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10?
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On the N4 ? That's a tablet-only feature, for now at least.
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ferris2375 said:
I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
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Is it that hard to believe?
iPhone 4s: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ne-4sios-5-battery-problem-promises-fix/15997
Galaxy S III: http://www.sammobile.com/2012/08/09/modem-update-galaxy-s-iii-fix-battery-drain//
Nokia Lumia 800: http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-lumia-800-battery-issue-fixed-audio-and-camera-next
Apple recently released a patch to curb battery drain on their Macbooks too. I remember. I got the update a few months ago.
I believe the battery problems is purely software related and I expect that because android 4.2 is not finished yet and it will be finished and pushed out by the time the nexus products go up for purchase.
Not trying to be cheeky or anything, but do you have a picture of the snapped gnex? Sounds interesting.
On topic, I'm just glad the battery isn't soldered to something.
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I'm not sure if I can blame this on the race-to-market state that the industry is in but there are a lot of
poorly performing phones being released. Manufacturers rush to release new products without doing
the necessary development tests. Product testing has been moved form the lab to the customer base.
Take the case of the Nexus 4.
I read an article where an HTC Droid DNA user was complaining how HTC is slow to release the latest
Android OS and he decided it was time to make the switch to Nexus because he can't wait for updates.
But do Nexus users really get the best experience?
Nexus devices often use inferior hardware to cut the cost and I have no complaints here - I love the fact
that the Nexus4 costs almost half as much as the Droid DNA. But what about software?
I will give it to Google and LG for releasing a phone where at least everything works, some companies
don't go that far. But the Nexus4 currently works below it's potential. The firmware is buggy and not
optimized for best performance.
- The camera uses the same sensor as the LG Optimus 2X but produces much noisier pictures.
- The autofocus doesn't work that great.
- The screen colors are dialed in to a yellowish hue
- The microphone gain is way too high a distorts easy
There are a lot more annoyances but note that I only listed items that can easily be adjusted. With the
proper equipment it should take just a few hours to calibrate the phone so it works to it's highest
potential. Which makes me wonder whether calibration was done poorly or not at all.
Some argue that Google releases source code and unlocks their devices for independent developers to
adjust to their liking. But developers don't have the type of testing equipment that the manufacturer has
and even with the source code available it could be impossible to figure out how to control hardware modules
without the corresponding documentation. Developers tend to work in the dark most of the time.
Not sure what point I'm driving to here, I'm just frustrated. I'm realizing that I want a device where everything
works great at release time so I don't have to wait for kernel fixes. I wonder when (or if) LG and Google will
address these and how that reflects on the entire phone industry.
4.2 was obviously rushed, as was illustrated by the lack of December in the calendar. That can be fixed in time.
As regards hardware, I totally get where you're coming from. In order to make a decent profit on the handhelds, it's pretty clear that LG cut some corners in everything from components (some) to quality control. Is there a blasted thing that can be done about it from our end? No. But, we have a pretty freakin' awesome phone for $300-$350 with the latest Android. It's a tradeoff. Take it or leave it.
-Mindroid- said:
I'm not sure if I can blame this on the race-to-market state that the industry is in but there are a lot of
poorly performing phones being released. Manufacturers rush to release new products without doing
the necessary development tests. Product testing has been moved form the lab to the customer base.
Take the case of the Nexus 4.
I read an article where an HTC Droid DNA user was complaining how HTC is slow to release the latest
Android OS and he decided it was time to make the switch to Nexus because he can't wait for updates.
But do Nexus users really get the best experience?
Nexus devices often use inferior hardware to cut the cost and I have no complaints here - I love the fact
that the Nexus4 costs almost half as much as the Droid DNA. But what about software?
I will give it to Google and LG for releasing a phone where at least everything works, some companies
don't go that far. But the Nexus4 currently works below it's potential. The firmware is buggy and not
optimized for best performance.
- The camera uses the same sensor as the LG Optimus 2X but produces much noisier pictures.
- The autofocus doesn't work that great.
- The screen colors are dialed in to a yellowish hue
- The microphone gain is way too high a distorts easy
There are a lot more annoyances but note that I only listed items that can easily be adjusted. With the
proper equipment it should take just a few hours to calibrate the phone so it works to it's highest
potential. Which makes me wonder whether calibration was done poorly or not at all.
Some argue that Google releases source code and unlocks their devices for independent developers to
adjust to their liking. But developers don't have the type of testing equipment that the manufacturer has
and even with the source code available it could be impossible to figure out how to control hardware modules
without the corresponding documentation. Developers tend to work in the dark most of the time.
Not sure what point I'm driving to here, I'm just frustrated. I'm realizing that I want a device where everything
works great at release time so I don't have to wait for kernel fixes. I wonder when (or if) LG and Google will
address these and how that reflects on the entire phone industry.
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Anddddddd, another whiner..... N4 is a great phone that came out just 2 months ago!!!! It will only get better!!! If you don`t like yours just sell it and head over to the FRUIT store
I don't understand .... You saying that phones like Samsung or apple are bugles?
1. ICS update for gs2. OMG battery drain was stupendous , even though Samsung released update after a month or son it took even longer on carrier based devices
2. IPhone there was an issue with WiFi or so
Fixed within few weeks
3. Nexus 4 - December bug fixed before December (I cant imagine update coming through on devices modified by network operators
It might seem that OEM devices are flawless bout you couldn't be more wrong . they have bugs but not ones that you see at first glance and trust me they take much longer to fix as less people notice them
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MattSkeet said:
I don't understand .... You saying that phones like Samsung or apple are bugles?
1. ICS update for gs2. OMG battery drain was stupendous , even though Samsung released update after a month or son it took even longer on carrier based devices
2. IPhone there was an issue with WiFi or so
Fixed within few weeks
3. Nexus 4 - December bug fixed before December (I cant imagine update coming through on devices modified by network operators
It might seem that OEM devices are flawless bout you couldn't be more wrong . they have bugs but not ones that you see at first glance and trust me they take much longer to fix as less people notice them
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This is a great point, and one of the main reasons to have a Nexus device.
Nothings perfect bro look at apple maps
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Problems like battery drain and Maps take a long time to debug and fix. It's still
unacceptable but understandable.
Offset colors on a screen should take minutes to adjust with the proper equipment.
Seriously! It should be done right the first time. I'm reading on here that small problems
with the Galaxy Nexus were never fixed.
BigDig said:
Anddddddd, another whiner..... N4 is a great phone that came out just 2 months ago!!!! It will only get better!!! If you don`t like yours just sell it and head over to the FRUIT store
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So because he has legitimate complaints about a device he purchased, he must not voice them and go buy an iPhone? Do you realize how dumb that sounds? Just wanted to point that out.
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I'm not sure if I can blame this on the race-to-market state that the industry is in but there are a lot of
poorly performing phones being released. Manufacturers rush to release new products without doing
the necessary development tests. Product testing has been moved form the lab to the customer base.
Take the case of the Nexus 4.
I read an article where an HTC Droid DNA user was complaining how HTC is slow to release the latest
Android OS and he decided it was time to make the switch to Nexus because he can't wait for updates.
But do Nexus users really get the best experience?
Nexus devices often use inferior hardware to cut the cost and I have no complaints here - I love the fact
that the Nexus4 costs almost half as much as the Droid DNA. But what about software?
I will give it to Google and LG for releasing a phone where at least everything works, some companies
don't go that far. But the Nexus4 currently works below it's potential. The firmware is buggy and not
optimized for best performance.
- The camera uses the same sensor as the LG Optimus 2X but produces much noisier pictures.
- The autofocus doesn't work that great.
- The screen colors are dialed in to a yellowish hue
- The microphone gain is way too high a distorts easy
There are a lot more annoyances but note that I only listed items that can easily be adjusted. With the
proper equipment it should take just a few hours to calibrate the phone so it works to it's highest
potential. Which makes me wonder whether calibration was done poorly or not at all.
Some argue that Google releases source code and unlocks their devices for independent developers to
adjust to their liking. But developers don't have the type of testing equipment that the manufacturer has
and even with the source code available it could be impossible to figure out how to control hardware modules
without the corresponding documentation. Developers tend to work in the dark most of the time.
Not sure what point I'm driving to here, I'm just frustrated. I'm realizing that I want a device where everything
works great at release time so I don't have to wait for kernel fixes. I wonder when (or if) LG and Google will
address these and how that reflects on the entire phone industry.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....
frustrated with what?
I turn my phone on it comes on. I dial a number it calls it. I go to a web page it loads it. I stream music is streams it.
Your issue is you seem to think your little bubble of the world applies to everyone. My Phone does not have a yellowish tint. I don't use the microphone. So I don't care about distortion with it. The camera looks fine to me. But then again I aint a photo junkie. Altho if I was I'd use my Nikkon camera, not my phone....
You see, I get a nexus, and android, so that I can tinker. I can create. I can remove, I can improve. I can have the newest and latest.
You seem to get one because? I don't know what you got on for. Cause these things seem lost on you....
Do as others say, Sell it, make an extra hundy, and go get something else.....
OK you're not happy but these threads go nowhere and you can see that already so will stop it now.
Thread closed.
iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.
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A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.
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^Sums it up, it'd be a big deal if they were major updates like 7.1.x etc. but like @speedyink said they were just security patches
phositadc said:
I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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We don't always get what we want.
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phositadc said:
iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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i dont get these android vs ios threads. if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
Google does it this way because it works for them, i honestly dont see a problem with it. whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone
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Whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone.
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Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
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I think all he was trying to say was that he wished Google was a tiny tiny little bit like Apple sometimes. If this was the IPhone 5 they would be getting murdered by the media. Not necessarily unhappy with the phone or Google's services, just patiently waiting for a fix on a few crucial things.
Updates will come when they're ready. I know I don't want an update for the sake of getting a update. Too many times I've seen stuff rushed to fix something and break many other things.
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Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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phositadc said:
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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A software update won't magically melt the extra glue in your N5. It was already determined that speaker sound required a hardware modification. There is a fix for volume on the N5 already, I think Google is aware of this and might put it in 4.4.1.
droid_<3er said:
Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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1) I didn't say custom roms don't get the bugs iron out i've been rooting/flashing for 4-5 years now and have used some amazing roms. I said they were not for the everyday user and if you don't know what you are doing it can be a hassle.
2) A lot of people argue that the Nexus 5 is a developer phone. I didn't say it was destined for XDA I almost said the exact opposite since average users are buying it.
3) Never said IOS 7 was good/bad nor have I ever used IOS. In your comparison though, lag vs. the entire camera not functioning.
4) I know how to search im just more of a lurker... and I've used that camera app before. The problem is not the quality of the image/camera and that is what that app is aiming to fix. I actually think the N5 is able to take great pictures in most situations. The problem with the camera is that while using apps that utilize the nexus's camera it will become unusable giving you a black/green screen with noise making the camera unusable until you reboot the phone.
I know the camera issue does not affect many users who do not use apps like snap-chat and a few others (or I think using face-unlock will also trigger this) but a lot of less tech savvy have been returning the phone thinking it doesn't function properly. For tech savvy users like us we know the new camera API is coming and can wait it out.
Also, they are exclusively featuring camera on the N5 in all of the commercials I have seen.
Funny story to go with this also. My GF suggested that I need to get a new phone since snap-chat doesn't work anymore... I just sort of laughed and said no way! But just thought it was an interesting perspective.
So who are these people returning their nexus 5 because of the camera? Are they in the n5 v g2 thread?
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I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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All you are saying in the op is that Apple release sh1t software that needs fixing more than Google
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The nexus series is geared towards development end of story
I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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Shoopz said:
I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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I actually get that issue quite often. Occasionally its just a black screen and gives a camera error. Doesn't fix itself until the phones restarted. Stock / Rooted.
There are FAR more iOS 7 users than there are Android 4.4 users. When 400 million iOS 7 users have an issue—92% of all iOS users out there—a lot of people are affected. When 1 million Android 4.4 users have an issue—1% of all Android users out there—this is a very tiny portion of the Android ecosystem and Google does not feel they need to resolve issues timely. You can blame Google and the entire Android ecosystem for this.
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I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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Not whining and I didn't say that i'm unhappy with the device or want to return it if that was directed towards me, just saying Google needs to fix a few things.
Advertising the Camera -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0XTJqFLIE
Camera Problems -
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1rcc1f/issue_with_camera_crashing_on_nexus_5_running/
Camera Problems Confirmed -
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=61873#c79
And like I said the issue has been confirmed most of us are just waiting on them to rollout the update.
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I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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What rom do you have flashed?
They need to get an update for the n5 quick, to fix the 'bog roll' quality speaker which somehow manages to vibrate the phone more than the actual vibrator does.
There is a 4.4.1 update rolling out shortly. No link, but easily googled.
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It should probably be mentioned that Google have decoupled several apps from the core OS that in iOS would require an OS "update".
For example, Chrome is now a separate update whereas Safari in iOS is not. If security updates to the browser are required, Google just updates Chrome in the Play store, whereas Apple would release an OS "update" which may in reality only affect the browser.
I'm not saying that is always going to be the case, but it may explain some of the timing "differences".
EDIT: Here's a good example, from the iOS 7.0.4 update:
Bug fixes and improvements, including a fix for an issue that causes FaceTime calls to fail for some users.
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The Android equivalent of a Facetime fix would likely just be a new version of Hangouts on Play.
Regards,
Dave