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Nokia N73 or Sony Ericsson K810i?

Hey everyone, i'm upgrading now and am torn between getting the N73 or the K810 (which is coming out next month).
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pip1&zone=pp&pid=10804
http://www.nokia.co.uk/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_119601
I am downgrading to a non-Windows phone because the Wizard I have isn't very practical and isn't a hero in all situations...of course I intend to continue developing it as there really is nothing like Windows CE.
The N73 has better video but it's very common. It's a Nokia, and I think they're quite boring to use. The camera is brilliant, but I hear the shutter speed is slow compared to Ericssons.
The K810 looks awesome but has stone age video (176x144). I like Ericssons, they're fun, and very usable.
Please anyone with any knowledge atall leave any comments or thoughts.

I just got myself a K800i from eBay to go with my array of Windows Mobile phones. One of the first thing I did was flash the K810i firmware to it (although that did nothing to help with the big lump on the back of the phone, which the K810i will not suffer from!)
I was just after a cheap phone with the best camera available, purely to use on a stag-do I'm going on soon. As my limit was £100 (in case I lose/break the thing) my choice was between the Sony and the Nokia too.
I went for the Sony, largely because it has a *proper* flash which will come in handy in low-lit bars and clubs, but I also have an irrational dislike of Nokia's, and I've owned Symbian S60 devices in the past which, looking back, I wasn't thrilled with (Although I loved my old Siemens SX1 at the time).
A good friend of mine has an N73, and in the interest of balance, I will say (grudgingly) that having had a play around with it, it's one of the nicest Nokia's I've seen for a long time. Very good quality pictures, and the latest S60 is better than it ever has been. Only the N95 is better, but that costs a fortune at the moment!
Having used my K800i for just over a week (to get used to it before my drunken trip) I'm seriously considering keeping it as my main phone, at least for the forseeable future. The camera is truly brilliant, even in the absolute pitch black, it has an RSS reader which I use heavily, a capable media player and FM radio, a QVGA web-browser which is at least as good as Mobile IE on a Windows Smartphone, and a massive range of QVGA Java games available. The main thing though, is how insanely usable I'm finding it. Even the N73 doesn't beat the K800i for ease of use.
I have never used video recording on a mobile for anything except MMS, so although Qcif is a bit off-putting at first, it really makes no difference to me. If you're going to be using it for viewing on your PC, then I would say that the general video quality on the K800i comes out about as well as my Universal or my Hermes, despite the lower resolution, mainly because the framerate is more consistent, and the colours/image is sharper to begin with. The N73 is obviously superior for video though.
The main limitation of the K800i for me, is the rather basic e-mail. On my main e-mail account, "push" IMAP4 actually delivers my e-mails to my K800i before "push" Exchange does to my WM5 device (which I'm baffled by). However, you can't view .doc .xls .ppt .pdf attachments on the Sony. You can download and forward them on, but you can't open them.
Also, my music collection is in .ogg format, which the Sony can't handle. It's a shame, because I'm now having to rip things to mp3 for the plane trip.
So basically, if you need flexibility then the N73 is the one to go for. It has better video, and a better e-mail client, plus you can add on extra software features as you go along 'cause it's a Symbian phone.
Have a play around with a K800i - the K810i really is virtually identical, so you'll get a very good idea for yourself of what it will and wont be able to do, but I'd say if you want a more stylish, and extremely usable phone for daily use - with a slightly better camera - then you should go for the Sony.

hi, dont talk about SE or nokias even in off topic, they r low class,
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hey, thanks sub69, that post was very helpful! i decided upon the K810 and i haven't looked back. i had a play with an N73 and i found it very slow and quite clumsy.
thanks again

Saaduk said:
hi, dont talk about SE or nokias even in off topic, they r low class,
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Not low class atall. I'm talking about Nokia and Sony Ericsson's flagship mobiles, not a Motorola V3 or Nokia 3310.

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Poll: HD7 and WP7 Pros and Cons. Share your thoughts and vote.

About HD7 and WP7, quick review.
Positive HTC HD7:
. The device is awesome, fast, slim, the 4.3” high resolution screen is really epic and it feels really good when holding it in your hands. It makes you wanna have sex with it.
. The device materials quality is over my expectations
. Auto focus and dual LED flash working great
. Gsensor, proximity, and ambient light Sensor fast and reliable
Negative HTC HD7:
. Internal storage: 8 GB (Europe), I just hope we can upgrate it soon
. Battery drains a lot. it seems that battery manufacters are not keeping the pace. I recommend to disable all automatic updates and dont use 3G.
Positive Microsoft WP7:
. Really a clean OS fast and very responsive.
. The Hubs and animated tiles layout is very simple and fun to use.
. Social integration is a awesome feature and well worked by Microsoft (but it may be a little confusing for newbs.
. The boot sequence is the faster I ever seen.
Negative Microsoft WP7:
. Marketplace and Zune not available for all regions (you need to create a windows live account in a Region like UK for example).
. Lack of Customization
Bottom line:
WP7 is a kind of fresh air in the mobile world, a different approach with easy-to-use interface focused in integration of features and social network. Its fast, clean, intuitive, full of people-centric features with memory management like no other OS. Overall is has unbeatable perfomance.
Metro UI it is not just a app launcher, it has live tiles and not that sea of the same old and boring icons. The touch responsiveness is awesome and the short transitions between applications is the best experience I ever had.
The WP7 keyboard is clean , the mail experience is solid, IE9 is fast, the Office integration make WP7 impossible to ignore for serious business users, terrific Zune and Xbox Live integration with beautiful and useful user interface. All of these features are as simple and clean as the rest of the OS.
A kid can use it, a grown up can use it, a elderly can use it.
WP7 its still a work in progress and yes there is a lot of features missing but since it is just one year old, you can wait and live without it. The most important is that what we have now does not break, crash or lag. It works perfectly and smooth. Bottom line, you love it or you hate it.
In my case, I Love Windows Phone.
EDIT:
My Rate so far: 8.5/10
Thats all.
dot

Hm, have not had any issue with the hubs. Agree on battery life, it is pretty weak so far. I've done multiple drains as well.
I'm pretty torn on the HD7 myself. On the one hand it's probably the best-looking handheld device I've ever owned. Hardware is just excellent and feels great in the hand. But the more I look at the screen the more I realize how poor it is. Colors are very washed out. My 1st gen iPod touch has better brightness, contrast and saturation than this screen. HTC could have done better here.

Would you say the battery last longer same or shorter then HD2?

I find the HD7 to be the best looking of all the WP7 phones yet released. I love the black chrome surround and the silver mesh inserts at each end of the front face. I also found ou t those mesh inserts conduct sound from the rear speaker. That is a plus, rather than just being there for looks.I love the high quality kickstand also. The HD7 combines all the best elements of the HD2 and Evo in a much prettier package.
My HD7 works flawlessly...signal and fit and finish as well. The screen is unblemished and the display is colorful and bright. I love the chrome buttons and I especially love the dual level camera button.
WP7 is, to me, the best mobile OS ever released. It is superbly smooth, uncluttered and efficient. It lacks features right now but, similar to the iPhone's lack of features, WP7 will evolve into the most successful mobile OS ever produced...my opinion.
Taking into consideration the nature of the system and how it will evolve, I give WP7 a 9 out of 10. I have experienced some minor bugs. Otherwise I would give it a 10/10

I love my hd7 to , real good build quality and O2 German version has 16 GB in it

I hate sound quality in HD7. There is absolute no bass if you use the included headphones or buildin speaker. As far as I know there is also no other headphones that have compatible control. Also the mic should be at the level of mouth or a little lower, but not at the chest level.

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I hate sound quality in HD7. There is absolute no bass if you use the included headphones or buildin speaker. As far as I know there is also no other headphones that have compatible control. Also the mic should be at the level of mouth or a little lower, but not at the chest level.
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Yeah, the HD2 included head set also has the mouth piece way low, like they designed it for the indigenous people who stretch out their necks, never made sense to me on that one.

Nice thread, I will wait for more comments before I buy mine.

My HD7
Me and MY HD7 it's a love hate relationship I guess.
A bit of history:
I've owned the HD1 (****ing loved it), The HD2 (was an okay device) Now the HD7 (still testing it). I'm a smartphone FANATIC! I have devices ranging from the Nexus One, to the Blue Angel (favorite phone of all time), to the EVO, G1, MOTO Backflip, Touch Pro1 and 2, even the XDA Flame, and Palm Pre, you name it. So I don't really have a biased to any particular device.
The HD7:
The physical design is AMAZING (though I think it could use more metal on the back, but it still feels way better than the plastic clad EVO). The screen appears to be floating as it's not touching the upper and lower bezel. The kickstand is sturdy.
The camera button is hard to press on the second stage (not the focus stage), if you attempt to use one hand it will probably shake enough of ruin your shot (and I have big hands, I can palm a basket ball). two hand use should be fine
The camera flash is great. It does a good job with adjusting the brightness of the light.
The battery life is absolutely pathetic, worse than than any device I ever owned.
The Audio from the built in speaker is CRAP! Even with HTC sound enhancer. I'ts actually the worst sounding phone I every owned, but it's bearable.
The Audio pushed out through the headphones is AMAZING!
The vibrator. I know who ever's reading this is like WTF? But I've always hated the way the vibrator feels on HTC device. I think it's an important feature on devices nowadays especially with tactile feedback emulations. With that said: On my EVO it's horrible it makes an annoying noise and it only vibrates the lower portion of the phone. But the vibrator on this device is awesome. It feels really natural and vibrates the whole phone. Almost better than the one on the Samsung devices.
The LCD display is actually decent. I don't know what everyone complains about, the device would have cost nearly twice as much with a 4.3 inch SAMOLED like everyone wants, no one has a 4.3 inch AMOLED or SAMOLED so give it a rest people! The display could be brighter in my opinion though.
The sound quality for phone call is the best I had so far, but put it on speaker phone and it's the worst I've heard.
Pocket IE is very fast faster than the Android 2.2 default browser. But the render is kind of weird as they seem to not have have anti aliasing on text when completely zoomed out so it looks horrible sometimes. Over all the browser is good.
Windows 7 in a nutshell
I love it and hate it.
I love: the messaging app, the overall interface, the idea for hubs, the xbox live integration, the live tiles, the lock screen, the Email Hub (beautifu and extremely functional), the picture and video Hub (beautiful and functional) the entire OS is extremely responsive and cohesive.
I hate: Some hubs won't load (and requires a soft reset) less than 5% of the time, Some apps have the tendency to crash (more time than I'm comfortable with) bot 3rd party and built in apps, I hate that the video recorder will not retain settings.
And I ABSOLUTELY HATE when searching for apps you get music result as well; example: if you search in Market Place for "Notes" you'll get some applications like "Voice Notes" and "Light Notes" but you'll also have albums and play lists mixed in like "Notes from the Past" and "Best of the 70s - Play list" WTF!! at the very least they could have grouped them by type "Albums" "Applications" "Play List". Instead they mix them all up randomly so you'll have to search an entire list of music albums so you won't potentially miss a very good app all the way at the bottom. W T F !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I give the device a 7/10
-Frankie

MHO.
HD7 -> compared to other HTC devices -> significant de-evolution.
HD7 -> compared to other devices same class -> not possible.
WM7, "satisfactory" start with possibility to improve fast.
HD7, terrible hardware choice and cant improve anything.
4/10
K

Thanks Dotcomp for the poll ,now thread is sticky....guys be nice,i'll check this thread and i won't see any flame around and in case post and quotes with flame will be deleted.
Thanks all for cooperation.

I rate it a 4/10. Pretty much subpar. I think there is a distinct difference between a fresh new look and quality.
For someone who is new to and Microsoft mobile OS dating back to the Offline pocket Pc's like me then this OS looks half baked.
For someone new to the MS OS then this OS is great with it's flashy graphics and smooth transitions. However there are just too many things that the girst Pocket Pc phone Edition had out the door that this OS lacks. Yes! I'm sure they'll be rectified down the line.
Now I need to make it clear before all the flaming kicks in; I definitely believe in the OS and it's future. There's a lot to come down the line. Heck! Great apps are coming out all the time. i just found FIM in the marketplace this morning.
However; as the saying goes. Call a spade a spade. Windows Phone 7 compared to Windows Mobile 3 or 2 or just plain PPC is subpar.

PROS:
Solid design on the hardware side.
Like the classy look of the hardware
The OS is very polished
Software keyboard works well and the screen size helps.
OS is snappy for anything native.
touch sensitivity is best I have ever seen. Most responsive OS i have ever used.
ZUNE /media capabilities and netflix are all a welcome +
CONS:
Very slow 3rd party apps.
Have to be reloaded every time they launch and takes for ever to just
check simple information like facebook or twitter or local movie times
no multi-tasking is sometimes bothersome as well as the omission of cut/copy/paste
Horrible browser who's acid test is only 5/100
no flash ( not really a deal breaker but just thought i would throw it out their)
no many apps available yet and when they are i think they dont work as optimized/or efficient as they should. (yes i know its early still)
on the hardware side the camera has a pink hue when i use the flash rendering the flash useless basically
cheap shiny metal material which was already chipping and i had only used the handset a week.
All in all I think MS did a great job redirecting the failing division they had
now i believe its time they bring the browser up to speed while adding a lot of industry standard features they need to catch up on. Great inial release and starting point for their revolution. I didnt think they had it in them. By next fall I expect them to be on par with most on the industry in terms of missing features and I think WP& is a great alternative to anything out their while bringing a totally different experience to the market with its unique minimal look. I am a die hard android fanboy but would not mind sticking it out with a WP7 device when 3rd party apps function properly. with that being said I give MS an A-

I like the phone and Microsoft.... but it needs to work just as good if not better than the iPhone 3GS that I had. I like that I can change the battery that is definately better than iPhone. And the microSD card is better too but it needs to be accessible as well. Not behind a cover and 10 screws. I know that is really for system memory, but then there should be a seperate slot for another SD card. I still like to take pictures or create/save documents and take the card and transfer to another computer or phone. Where is that SIM Manager too?? You had it before but now it's not a feature. And please please make the volume much much higher. Even the "speaker phone" volume is way too low.
All in all this phone and OS has lot's of potential. I like the "cloud" concept but as it stands today, my previous iPhone beats this handset. Please HTC and Microsoft... don't make me go back to Apple.... please !

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Hi all, I tell them that I decided to change my htc htc hd2 and then my desire for the new hd7, I love the speed with which I access the most important things in fast, but I feel some omissions such as: When you dial keypad Phone numerical prediction can not find the contacts, I have no possibility of a browser like igo gps, garmin, etc. And as already mentioned missing file browser. If anyone knows how to put the prediction of contacts or a good gps software please send an email to this fledgling community in windows phone 7.

poor battery life.
poor screen.
poor camera.
great OS just needs a few more features. And I know they are coming.
Come on HTC I know you have better cameras and screens,What were you thinking?
Why not have a higher capacity battery as well?

After two weeks Im going to return my phone. I cant really pinpoint one thing why I dont like it, but I miss using Android. I know Ive gotten beat up about this before but If you have a cell phone number listed in the home field of the contact, they arent searchable in "Messaging" . I understand how everyone feels about that but my argument is the person is listed in the contacts so the information is there, but it wont even display the persons name when searched. Fixable but "to me" annoying. I also dont like that the tiles on the home screen are basically all the same color. For me It makes glancing at the screen difficult to quickly search the tile Im looking for.
Battery life is terrible and makes the phone unusable for media if you are also relying on it all day long for other stuff.
Volume is way to low.
Not having LED notifications for SMS and Email is just insane. All day long I have to turn the phone on and off to see if I missed something. Just stupid.
Its beautiful and runs great but there just isnt a reason to switch to it if you have used any other modern smartphone.
Just my two cents.

The Marketplace really needs a dedicated app search area. As it is, you put in a search term for an app and it brings up music results as well. Sort of annoying searching for the Twitter app and having a bunch of mixtapes and singles mixed in with the apps.
Maybe it's there and I'm missing it?

manlisten said:
The Marketplace really needs a dedicated app search area. As it is, you put in a search term for an app and it brings up music results as well. Sort of annoying searching for the Twitter app and having a bunch of mixtapes and singles mixed in with the apps.
Maybe it's there and I'm missing it?
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I find this EXTREMELY ANNOYING too!!!!!

One good thing I would like to add to the positives is the maps app. To me its the best Ive ever used.

[Q] Should I Upgrade?

hello guys,
I have been using Nokia Lumia 800 almost a yr now.
but now thinking to switch on to Lumia 920.
here are some things I noticed about Lumia 800.
Loved it from the time i switched on to it.
Updated my firmware to 7.8,using it for more than a month or so, Love the Live Tile Resizing.
Things I Loved-
-Timeless Design and Feel for the phone,its been a yr now using lumia 800 but i dont feel for a second that the phone is a YR OLD.
-Nokia Support for LUMIA range has been incredible,Love the bluetooth sharing,ringtonemaker,camera extras,nokia maps,nokia city lens etc AWESOME APPs.
-Screen has been a Pleasure to view anywhere,be it Bright Sunny Day or in office.
-Build to last,this thing is as good as a TANK,has touched ground many a times from a noticeable height n still it is good as NEW.
Things Should be Better-
-Dont like the switching between apps,the app opens all over again,also not much apps work in the background.
-Whats App was awesome when i initially installed it and over a few updates it is not as good as it was before,i.e. theirs a Audio Bug which runs always,hope they fix this issue soon
-The Bluetooth Sharing app does not support video sending.
-Camera although is good but can get better with sharpness and detailing.
-Battery is ok,but drains alot wen i use whats app most of the time. Can improve,may be due to whats app audio bug.
-App catalog should be filled with the big guns soon,the thing i hate the most is Temple Run is their on all devices except windows phones
-Not able to tag friends in Check in or Status updates, Cant like a picture in too
The things I do on my 800 will also be doing the same on 920-
1.Pictures and Videos- I click alot of pictures and Videos, also have ticked the option to automatically link my camera uploads to SKYDRIVE.
2.Whats App-always connected to whats app mostly 12hrs out of 24 hrs
3.Use Nokia Lens and Nokia Drive a few times a week.
4.Facebooking around 30mins in a day ( not continuously )
5.Amazing Weather updates twice a day.
6.Manually checking mails 4times a day
7.1hr calling and heavy texting.
8.Playing Some Games once a week.
As of now I am Happy with Lumia 800 completes every task.
but as 920 is better in all aspects thought of upgrading.....
My doubt is should i go for 920 or should i wait for the 920 successor which mite be unvield in MWC.
It was Quoted some days ago that PureView has more to come,n i am fond of clicking pics my main focus is on camera also.

Windows Phone 8 has some new features that I like vs WP7.x but there is also not much off a diffrence in some areas for exsample you still can't use custom MMS\SMS or email alert tones. If you happen to have a WP7.x phone that is an unlocked or ROM OS, just stick with it because you can't load any custom software on it and it the same with pre-installed color tiles and the boring black and white background options.

Well, I just upgraded my titan to the 8x. Was planning to stick with the titan for another year but was offered the 8x on 12 month contract with unlimited everything for 38 quid pm. Should be arriving in 3 days. Will till be taking the titan with me because love the big screen. Hopefully w8 dont disappoint me.

If you are happy with the 800 then don't upgrade just yet, I impatiently upgraded to a Lumia 820 then sold it as it was not much better than my Titan or wifes Lumia 900, There isn't a great deal of difference within the OS for what you are using it for,
Hopefully a bit further down the line things will get better with Wp8 and you will have a few more options with handsets and have the newer pureview Aluminium Lumias to ogle over

[Q] Windows Phone for the first time.Need help!

Ok,so I am thinking about getting a WP8 device,and I mean on htc 8s.It looks like a nice device,for a nice price,but I need to know something about WP8.Yeah forgot to mention that I am currently an Android user,owning a Sony Xperia S,but honestly not impressed,not impressed at all.So I need someone who maybe knows how is it to transfer from Android to WP,what are main advantages and disadvantages od WP,maybe someone,who could compare it with Android,could be useful.Anyway,please give me your opinions,thanks in advance

Android does have a larger app base, and is a little more customizable. With android you can run a custom ROM, not so on WP. But I think that WP owns Android in all other areas, and this is coming from an Android ROM developer. Windows Phone 8 is amazing, has some awesome features in Messaging, and live tiles ROCK! The app base will come, and with that I honestly believe that WP has a chance to take over the marketplace.
What are some specifics you're looking for?
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Board Express

I would suggest to avoid HTC 8s in any case. The reason is only 4 gigs of phone memory. Yeah, it has an SD card, but the management of it in WP is not so good. U can use it only to storage pics and videos from the camera. When WP installed, u have around 1.5 GB free on the phone, which isn't wnough 4 anything.
If u need navigation, wan't to have a decent music collection on ur phone, and want to have some apps and games, u need a phone with at least 16 GB.

You can store Music on the SD Card as well if it's in the form of regular Music files. All App data (and that includes Music downloaded through Spotify, etc.) will reside in the internal Memory.
That being said: I still believe the others are correct in that the 4GB of Memory are a big Problem with the 8S. There is a reason why even the cheapest Nokia Lumia device (the just anounce Lumia 520) has 8GB of storage.

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You can store Music on the SD Card as well if it's in the form of regular Music files. All App data (and that includes Music downloaded through Spotify, etc.) will reside in the internal Memory.
That being said: I still believe the others are correct in that the 4GB of Memory are a big Problem with the 8S. There is a reason why even the cheapest Nokia Lumia device (the just anounce Lumia 520) has 8GB of storage.
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So you guys are saying that i can't store music on sd Card?If so i don't want htc I want something with a memory,I mean I already have the 16 gb sd Card if that can't help than nothing from htc....

As I said already: it depends on the source of the Music. If it's Spotify or something similar the SD-Card won't help you. If it's MP3s you're copying from your PC you can use the SD Card for that.

Also worth mentioning is that the 8S has only 512 MB of RAM which limit`s running some games like Asphalt 7.Too bad for such a new phone.

I would avoid any HTC Windows phone, Nokia is the only company investing time and money into the WP8 ecosystem and you will really not enjoy your experience without their exclusives.
If you use your phone for work I would stick to an android phone, my lumia 920 is basically pointless for me to use for anything work related. PDF management is poor and often times sending a pdf is impossible. Also, if you need to digitally sign emails or use VPN's those features don't exist in Windows phone.
On a personal use level there are pros and cons to Windows phone, the OS is beautiful, people like it and when I hand my phone to friends or family they really are impressed with the overall look and feel of the home screen. The camera on my 920 is great, people had some complaints initially but it truly is the best camera available in a modern smartphone. The video recording is amazing as well and really lets the OIS shine.
This is all great except there are some huge flaws in the OS as well, with the greatest camera comes the omission of the worlds largest image based social network (yeah instagram). People will tell you that it's fine because you can apply filters with creative studio (which works fine) but instagram is no about filters, it's about users.
There is also no native or third party way to edit videos, which again seems to be a big shortcoming on a device with such an amazing camera.
There are other things in the OS that are bothersome, you can't set a custom toe for notifications (only the ringer). A lot of people want separate volume controls for media ringer and calls but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
There is just a lot to be desired out of the OS functionally and I think the biggest issue is that the API's available to devs are restrictive and MS isn't really concerned with improving the experience. If i had it to do again I would have bought a note 2 instead of my lumia simply because the camera isn't good enough to justify the shortcomings of the OS and how great is a primo camera when nobody sees your photos.

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I would avoid any HTC Windows phone, Nokia is the only company investing time and money into the WP8 ecosystem and you will really not enjoy your experience without their exclusives.
If you use your phone for work I would stick to an android phone, my lumia 920 is basically pointless for me to use for anything work related. PDF management is poor and often times sending a pdf is impossible. Also, if you need to digitally sign emails or use VPN's those features don't exist in Windows phone.
On a personal use level there are pros and cons to Windows phone, the OS is beautiful, people like it and when I hand my phone to friends or family they really are impressed with the overall look and feel of the home screen. The camera on my 920 is great, people had some complaints initially but it truly is the best camera available in a modern smartphone. The video recording is amazing as well and really lets the OIS shine.
This is all great except there are some huge flaws in the OS as well, with the greatest camera comes the omission of the worlds largest image based social network (yeah instagram). People will tell you that it's fine because you can apply filters with creative studio (which works fine) but instagram is no about filters, it's about users.
There is also no native or third party way to edit videos, which again seems to be a big shortcoming on a device with such an amazing camera.
There are other things in the OS that are bothersome, you can't set a custom toe for notifications (only the ringer). A lot of people want separate volume controls for media ringer and calls but this doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
There is just a lot to be desired out of the OS functionally and I think the biggest issue is that the API's available to devs are restrictive and MS isn't really concerned with improving the experience. If i had it to do again I would have bought a note 2 instead of my lumia simply because the camera isn't good enough to justify the shortcomings of the OS and how great is a primo camera when nobody sees your photos.
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Same here got the L920 and i hate it. Can´t use it for the work and the OS is nothing special like i thought. So i recommend you to swap to BB or stick by android.
If u are living in Germany, i am selling my Lumia 920 .

[Q] I have a dilema, the 930 or 1020

I can't seem to be able to choose between the Nokia 930 & 1020.
Music is important to me, as is web browsing, YouTube etc but I also want it to have a good camera.
I currently own the Samsung Note 3 so it has to be an upgrade (camera wise) to what I already have. There isn't much point if I am not going to notice the difference. All my photo's go onto my 27" mac screen, 48" TV screen and my PC so quality and clarity in photo's is a must.
Can you in the know help please? I haven't had a Windows phone before.
Grateful thanks Simon

Both are good
simonfoy said:
I can't seem to be able to choose between the Nokia 930 & 1020.
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Well, if you own a Note 3, then I would suggest a Lumia 1520 because of the large screen, and also because the camera features are the same of 930 and closely to what you would get with 1020. Of course that 1020 has some few greater features about its camera, the resolution is the first and most important of them. But I think that 20Mpx offered by 930 or 1520 is enough for ordinary use. The greatest thing about Lumia cameras is the possibility to adjust the shutter, which would give you excelent image results during night or low light. Yeah, a little bit boring and difficult to keep the camera static in hands when you are in a hurry, but 1 second or 2.5 seconds is enough to do the job and it's not that much time. Anyway, if you don't want to work with the shutter, you have other options like ISO or Brightness, which helps a lot too.
I have a 1520, and I'm incredibly satisfied with it. It is the last high end Windows Phone under Nokia trademark, and will be the best for a long time. Even knowing that right now there are phones with better hardwares (like G3, Z3, Note 4 or S6), the 1520 (like 930 or 1020) has more than enough for its Windows OS, which is light, fluid and stable. Above all, it is a very smart system that disables what you are not using and keeps only the necessary alive, so the battery life is very satisfying and the memory keeps most of it free for the apps you are actually using at the moment.
I love Android, but Windows were a big surprise for me and I had no problems migrating from one to another. But the biggest problem is the app store. It is still very bad. No way to compare the quality of Instagram or Facebook apps between Android and Windows. Windows versions seems like preview or test versions, and a lot of apps that are famous between Android or iOS users you will not find at Windows Store. For playing games, it is great... and the experience can be better if you have an XBox like for those ones who have Z3 and Playstation.
I'm not an app eater anymore, so... apps don't make a huge difference for me. If you feel the same, then a Windows Phone is an excelent choice. If I had to choose between 930 and 1020, then 1020 would be. I don't like the design of the 930, its aluminum construction makes it thicker and heavier than others. But I recomend 1520, also because after Lumia Camera update, it can now make 4k movies at 30fps.

thanks so much for the detailed reply. Greatly appreciated x

if web browsing is important to you, the 930 has a better cpu so you'll get faster web rendering

There is also audio quality, which is FANTASTIC , i truly didn't believed my ears when i watched some video from a concert, the audio was absolutely stunning, from highs to lows all was there, no more filtering and all that what others do, believe me, you'll be shocked when you'll hear it.
Here the main differences are that 1020 records audio in mono( but the quality is also great), but if you want a really good experience i'd take the 930 or 1520 as they record in stereo with directional microphones.
Also you'll get the latest features, such as fast camera start and fast 4k video capture if you buy the 930/1520, due to much improved hardware.
So to say if to compare 1020 with 930/1520, then the win of 1020 is only at raw camera photo capabilities, as video, photo to photo time, and all other features are better on the other 2 phones, oh...there is also possible to shoot in RAW so that's also some unique feature not available elsewhere.
Also due to better specs the OS is much quicker and load times of heavy apps/games are a lot better.

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There is also audio quality, which is FANTASTIC...
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Yes. Truly fantastic. It's amazing how great is its audio recording. Even when you send voice messages thru Whatsapp the quality difference is noticed when compared to other voice messages sent by friends who have different phones. It records whispers whitout being necessary to short the distance between the phone and your mouth. Its recording device is impressive.
The bad thing is that you can't say the same thing about it's speakers. 1520 has a mono speaker which users can easily cover it with their hand or fingers and if they do that the sound almost disappear. It's powerful anyway when nothing blocks it, but could be better if Windows provided a better sound application with more detailed features than just an equalizer. That is something I miss with Android and its Viper4Android, which is awesome.