should i get the Z or Z1? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

im upgrading from the S3 to a Z1 this holiday season, mainly because of the water proofing. Before my S3 i had a SE Xperia Arc S and i miss the quality of Sony. My wife on the other hand has an Xperia U and she wants a bigger phone, her favourite colour is purple and the only phones Sony has in purple are the Z and Z1.
the Xperia Z is at a reasonable price right now and has just about all the great features as the Z1, but is there anything that im missing that are different with the two phones? I really dont want her to be disappointed with the Z when she see's my Z1 is better, she's not a very tech person, will she notice any differences compared to my soon to be Z1?

The Z1 is about 20% faster then the Z.
There is no flap to cover the headphone jack on the Z1, so if you like to listen a lot of music with headphones I would suggest you go for the Z1.
The water proofiness is also a tad better on the Z1

midego said:
The Z1 is about 20% faster then the Z.
There is no flap to cover the headphone jack on the Z1, so if you like to listen a lot of music with headphones I would suggest you go for the Z1.
The water proofiness is also a tad better on the Z1
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how annoying is the flap on the Z to remove every time to plug in a headphones?

Avantiel said:
how annoying is the flap on the Z to remove every time to plug in a headphones?
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I found it pretty annoying, that is why I bought the Z1 when it came out and did my Z away.
And I love the magnetic charger, I never have to open any flap anymore

I had the Z, had to get it repaired twice and finally returned it because the back glass kept coming unglued. I may have been unfortunate and gotten a bad device (and then bad repairs I guess) but it is a widespread issue with that device (see here) so keep that in mind if you decide to get that one.
The Xperia Z1 feels much more sturdy than the Z and it features longer battery life even though it's faster.
The purple on the Xperia Z looks nicer than the purple on the Xperia Z1 though

well , the Z1 has much faster CPU , better Camera , louder speaker , better display , and the most important thing that u'll really miss it even if u compare with the S3 is the 3000mAh battery !
the Z has got a bad battery , however , its thinner and lighter .

Libyan Man said:
well , the Z1 has much faster CPU , better Camera , louder speaker , better display , and the most point that u'll really miss it even if u compare with the S3 is the 3000mAh battery !
the Z has got a bad battery , however , its thinner and lighter .
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I wouldn't necessarily say the Xperia Z has a bad battery, but the Xperia Z1 has certainly got a better one. The Xperia Z is fast enough for 90% of people, and while I notice the difference, it's not like I perceive it as some ridiculous speed boost. Same with the display, the Xperia Z is pretty much on par with the Xperia Z1 I think, perhaps the colours are a little clearer in the Z1, but the Xperia Z is by no means a bad device.
Loudspeaker and camera are much better on the Z1.
Both are good choices, providing you don't get any trouble with the back glass on the Xperia Z that is.

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I wouldn't necessarily say the Xperia Z has a bad battery, but the Xperia Z1 has certainly got a better one. The Xperia Z is fast enough for 90% of people, and while I notice the difference, it's not like I perceive it as some ridiculous speed boost. Same with the display, the Xperia Z is pretty much on par with the Xperia Z1 I think, perhaps the colours are a little clearer in the Z1, but the Xperia Z is by no means a bad device.
Loudspeaker and camera are much better on the Z1.
Both are good choices, providing you don't get any trouble with the back glass on the Xperia Z that is.
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everyone has got his own opinion , i've had the 2 devices and i really recognize these things , i think you are an Xperia Z owner or u still love it actually
u said 90% of people how or where did got that percentage bro ? are comparing SD S4 with SD 800!! are you serious ? for that i'll say just full up ur Z with apps , games and other media files , lose RAM , then watch it !

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everyone has got his own opinion , i've had the 2 devices and i really recognize these things , i think you are an Xperia Z owner
u said 90% of people how or where did got that percentage bro ? are comparing SD S4 with SD 800!! are you serious ? for that i'll say just full up ur Z with apps , games and other media files , lose RAM , then watch it !
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I was an Xperia Z owner yes, now I have the Xperia Z1, and I'm telling you that for the price difference currently between the two devices (presuming you get a good Z where the back glass doesn't fall off) it is a tough call if you're not a mobile phone enthusiast.
The Snapdragon S4 (APQ8064: Krait 200) is still a very good processor which is why they based the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974: Krait 400) on the same platform. They actually are very similar, the 800 is just clocked faster, has better power management, better WLAN, better graphics, USB3 and better image processing. Honestly both provide fluid UIs and a very good user experience.

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I was an Xperia Z owner yes, now I have the Xperia Z1, and I'm telling you that for the price difference currently between the two devices (presuming you get a good Z where the back glass doesn't fall off) it is a tough call if you're not a mobile phone enthusiast.
The Snapdragon S4 (APQ8064: Krait 200) is still a very good processor which is why they based the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974: Krait 400) on the same platform. They actually are very similar, the 800 is just clocked faster, has better power management, better WLAN, better graphics, USB3 and better image processing. Honestly both provide fluid UIs and a very good user experience.
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hmm the only thing that i can agree with you is the price , the SD S4 CPU is an end of generation , the architecture are different bro ! you comparison is not fair because the S4 Pro cant even rich the Snapdragon 600 ! it only beat the Snapdragon 200 .

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hmm the only thing that i can agree with you is the price , the SD S4 CPU is an end of generation , the architecture are different bro ! you comparison is not fair because the S4 Pro cant even rich the Snapdragon 600 ! it only beat the Snapdragon 200 .
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The S4 Pro (Cortex-A9 with Adreno 320) is better than 200 and 400 (as those are Cortex-A7 based and feature at best Adreno 305 graphics), not 600 or 800.
But that isn't my point. My point is that S4 Pro is good enough. We don't need anything faster.
Also the Snapdragon 600 and 800 do not feature true Cortex-A15 processors if that is what you were referring to when you said they are different architectures. They borrow some power saving innovations (by increasing efficiency) from A15 sure, but they are mostly A9's, not true A15.
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[Q] Xperia T, TX or V?

I've been using the Xperia Ray for almost a year now, and before that I had a Mini Pro. I upgraded to the Ray because the Mini Pro's screen was too small and too low-res, and now I'm looking to upgrade from the Ray because I find I need more internal storage and more power. I don't play games or anything, but I frequently use apps like Instagram, Flickr, Flipboard, Dolphin Browser etc., and often my Ray breaks down when there's more data incoming that it can handle. Also, the internal memory is a joke. I do however love the high-ppi screen and the form factor.
Originally I didn't want to go larger than 4" with my next handset, but it seems you'll only get a decent screen when going 4.3" or bigger. Also, I'd like to stay with Sony as I just love their design and am so used to their UI (despite using Go Launcher on top of it.)
So, I narrowed it down to the late 2012 models T, TX and V. The Z is definitely too large for me, and the other current Xperia models don't do it specs-wise. Each of the three has something going for it, and for the life of me I can't decide which one to get. So if you can help me by pushing me in one or another direction, I'd greatly appreciate it
So here's my list of pros and cons for each handset. They all have 720 HD displays, which is great. I don't want to go with less resolution (qHD doesn't do it, it's not a significant step up from the Ray's 854x480 display.) They all feature the gorgeous Arc design which I love. However, there are some differences.
Xperia T
Pros:
- Moderate price, especially when bought used. (I live in Germany, btw.) Can be had from ~ € 250.
- By far the largest battery of the bunch, @ 1850 mAh. (I am used to charging once a day, though, and typically my phone will last well beyond the end of the day.)
Cons:
- No exchangeable battery.
- Side flap that covers microSIM and microSD slots could eventually break and get lost.
- 4.55" is a bit large for my taste. I held it and found it tough to operate with one hand.
- Screen reportedly not very good (as compared to other models).
- Awkward button layout.
Xperia TX
Pros:
- Slightly silmmer profile than the T, which makes it look a lot nicer.
- Better button layout.
- Reportedly the best screen of the bunch.
- Placement of the screen makes it look more balanced (T has it more to the top).
- Xperia logo lights up (okay, this is a gimmick, but I love it )
- Exchangeable battery.
- Back cover offers better protection for microSIM and microSD.
Cons:
- Only 1750 mAh battery, but the difference to the T isn't that big.
- Higher price as it cannot be bought used over here. ~ € 350 upwards.
- Slightly wider and larger than the T, plus the 4.55" screen which I find just a tad too large.
Xperia V
Pros:
- Smaller than both the T and TX due to the 4.3" screen, so this could be closer to my preferred size.
- IP55/57 water and dust proof. This phone could last years.
- Offers LTE, should I ever upgrade my carrier or my contract.
Cons:
- Don't like the design of the front as much as that of the TX, especially the lack of Xperia logo at the bottom.
- Pretty steep price at least at the moment. Lowest online price somewhere around € 400. May drop once used units get on the market.
- Only 8 GB of internal memory, although that would probably suffice as I'll be using it with a 32 GB SD card anyway.
So there ya have it. All three have their pros and cons. Currently, my favourite is the TX, but that's mainly because I think it looks the best, and because it is said to have the best screen. The V however is a serious option due to its water- and dustproofing and the fact that it offers LTE. Doesn't look as nice as the TX though. The T ranks last on my list, mainly because the battery cannot be replaced, and because I think it looks bulky and unbalanced. The price however is ideal.
You see my dilemma? If I had money in spades, I'd probably get both the TX and V, try each for a while and then decide which one to keep. But as it is, I have to really justify shelling out that much money (even € 250 I consider a lot to spend for a phone.) While I am absolutely in love with the TX's looks, I'm debating whether the T may not be the more rational choice, or if I shouldn't get the V which has LTE and is water- and dust-proof when I'm spending that much money.
What would you do in my place? Which one should I get? Also, those of you who own any of the three, what are your experiences? Do you love yours, or would you rather have one of the other two models?
Thanks a bunch in advance for your help!
P.S.: Root-ability is also important. Are there any differences between the three devices in that regard?
Same dilemma that I had for about 2 weeks. Previous phones included arc s and Xperia s. I was stuck between V and Tx, t was definitely out of the picture, weird design and button layout. Look is very important to me.
Knocked down to v or tx, went with tx because it supported bands for us, if v had supported bands in the US, would have gotten that instead. Love the size of the v, just perfect.
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Lusterboi said:
Same dilemma that I had for about 2 weeks. Previous phones included arc s and Xperia s. I was stuck between V and Tx, t was definitely out of the picture, weird design and button layout. Look is very important to me.
Knocked down to v or tx, went with tx because it supported bands for us, if v had supported bands in the US, would have gotten that instead. Love the size of the v, just perfect.
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Thanks for your reply!
I just handled the T once more, and 4.6" is definitely too large for me to operate comfortably with one hand.
So, since TX and V are the same price for me, and V is 4.3" plus better specs, it's probably going to be that one.
ive been agonizing over the same dilemma for 2 days. i live in USA, so none are available for me (besides for TL - yech!!)
V looks the best but is impossible to get hold of for good price. i ended up buying the T (import from ireland!) then read about the crappy screen and bought the TX also. waiting for both to arrive so i can make my own decision. will update with my opinion when i test them both out.
i stock between v & tx....i want better camera & better display?which one is good for me?
TX has better front camera and bigger screen display..
I bought a Xperia V a couple days ago- really like it. Mugen Power makes a 3600 mah battery for the V, shipping at the end of march- I plan to pick one up!
Eason85 said:
I bought a Xperia V a couple days ago- really like it. Mugen Power makes a 3600 mah battery for the V, shipping at the end of march- I plan to pick one up!
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That's terrific! Thanks for the info!
I handled a V yesterday, albeit only a dummy. But the size is perfect for me, and I really like its look and feel.
I'd still like to handle a working unit first, but I'm pretty much sold already.
Uh-oh. Now the new Xperia SP got me thinking ... Same price, no sealing but better hardware and considerably larger battery. What do you guys think about V vs. SP?
tx
vonotny said:
Uh-oh. Now the new Xperia SP got me thinking ... Same price, no sealing but better hardware and considerably larger battery. What do you guys think about V vs. SP?
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for me i`d keep insisting on getting TX! =D this phone in terms of design and screen i dunno its for me the best phone in 1 or 2 years totaly in love with it <3
Tinup93 said:
for me i`d keep insisting on getting TX! =D this phone in terms of design and screen i dunno its for me the best phone in 1 or 2 years totaly in love with it <3
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I agree, the TX is definitely the best looking of the bunch.
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I agree, the TX is definitely the best looking of the bunch.
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Maybe.. but there is a small price you have to pay: delayed firmware updates.
I think the SP would be a better choice. Its a much newer device with many more features. (although lacking a few things)
I am also considering Xperia V or Xperia SP, but also Acro S is still in the pipe, for a much better price. Currently specs are best on V for me (size matters a lot), as it has a good screen, dimensions, fast processor, replacable battery...just missing camera button and bigger internal memory...besides a lot of SoD with V are making me nervous...
Unfortunately there is no device that has all those nice Sony features all together:
size of V (width of 65mm is also not very small!)
IP57 - water/dust proof
glove mode
wet finger tracking
sensor-on-lens & Bravia Engine
nice LED stripe (like in SP!)
>2300mAh replacable battery
Dual Core Krait (like V/SP, better SP)
8MP Exmor RS image sensor
dedicated camera button and current power button
I am just wondering when the first real outdoor device will come (real powerfull battery, transflective display, barometer etc)
tobsnyder said:
I am also considering Xperia V or Xperia SP, but also Acro S is still in the pipe, for a much better price. Currently specs are best on V for me (size matters a lot), as it has a good screen, dimensions, fast processor, replacable battery...just missing camera button and bigger internal memory...besides a lot of SoD with V are making me nervous...
Unfortunately there is no device that has all those nice Sony features all together:
size of V (width of 65mm is also not very small!)
IP57 - water/dust proof
glove mode
wet finger tracking
sensor-on-lens & Bravia Engine
nice LED stripe (like in SP!)
>2300mAh replacable battery
Dual Core Krait (like V/SP, better SP)
8MP Exmor RS image sensor
dedicated camera button and current power button
I am just wondering when the first real outdoor device will come (real powerfull battery, transflective display, barometer etc)
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Don't go for the Acro S. It's an old device. Never go for an old device no matter how worth the money it is because you will be frustrated with updates. I am pretty sure the Acro S received its last/one-before-the-last update. (because Sony support period is a little short). Go for the V then.
As for a real outdoor device, I doubt Sony would come up with something like that because the general public would not really care for such features.
I guess my decision will depend on which device will be cheaper once the SP is available.
I prefer the V for styling, screen size and sealing, but the SP for hardware and battery.
Oh, and that LED strip ... so damn sexy ...
Just got my T. for all the complaints about TX being nicer...... the T is a gorgeous phone, i actually like its slighter thicker build, gives it a better feel in the hand. the screen sucks though. very washed out. I guess you cant have everything.......
Ha! Good thing I waited a little longer and didn't pull the trigger on the V so quickly! Found a practically unused one with almost full 24 months German warranty on the bay, for the same price as the lowest online price for a new one with 12 months UK warranty. So happy! Can't wait for it to arrive. Also, since it was bought in Germany, chances are it will have the good display. Will report back once I received it.
tobsnyder said:
I am also considering Xperia V or Xperia SP, but also Acro S is still in the pipe, for a much better price. Currently specs are best on V for me (size matters a lot), as it has a good screen, dimensions, fast processor, replacable battery...just missing camera button and bigger internal memory...besides a lot of SoD with V are making me nervous...
Unfortunately there is no device that has all those nice Sony features all together:
size of V (width of 65mm is also not very small!)
IP57 - water/dust proof
glove mode
wet finger tracking
sensor-on-lens & Bravia Engine
nice LED stripe (like in SP!)
>2300mAh replacable battery
Dual Core Krait (like V/SP, better SP)
8MP Exmor RS image sensor
dedicated camera button and current power button
I am just wondering when the first real outdoor device will come (real powerfull battery, transflective display, barometer etc)
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Here's what my suggestion is. Go for the Z to get waterproof. The flaps on the V don't last long. Go for the Xperia V for waterproof and size. However keep in mind that the V flaps aren't as strong as Z. Xperia SP is definitely the best to go if you're looking for good performance + better portability. Overall, all these devices are great. It depends on what you are using it for. Also don't get the Acro S. Never buy a phone that is old. You'll miss out many updates.
The XperiaT is a good choice to buy? If you wouldnt have that phone now would you buy it again? Are you happy with it?
Just go for Xperia T and that's it.

[Q] Xperia SP vs Galaxy S3 Real Life comparisson

Basically this thread is specifically towards previous owners of Galaxy S3, that are now owners of Xperia SP, or people who have both and can have a "real" comparisson rather than a bunch of review sites that give too much into details, that dont affect you most of the time.
Battery life is completely subject to how you use your device, if it is unlocked with a custom kernel etc etc, so this doesn't really matter since both are around the same battery stats.
Benchmarks etc. This is again useless since one has 4 cores that are older than the 2 cores of the SP. Again these are dependant on how the HW is used and in what way.
Photos. I am not a instagram user, and I dont think i ever had more than 100 pics on any of my phones.
So... The questions that really bug me.
Are the soft keys on the Xperia SP (home, back, menu) an annoyance when playing games, texting, browsing etc.? I found myself pressing all of those on my Xperia Active several times and it pissed me off. I expect this to be less of a hassle on the S3 given the fact that its only got 2 soft keys and they are all beyond the screen.
Is sunlight legibility on both up to par? If not, which one is better? I could go with a matte screen protector but that screws up the colors a bit.
The reason im leaning more to the S3 is the already huge development scene on it, and the immense number of accessories for it, whereas for most Sony devices the Cases etc are very limited. P.S. im very clumsy, even the Active fell lots of times but never actually broke.
So, for the owners or long time users of BOTH devices, which one is better for you? Would you go back to the S3? Or are you more than happy with the SP?
I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
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I am currently using Xperia SP and my Big Bro is using galaxy s3 and we usually compare both the device in everything.
I can say that Xperia SP is a fairly good device but S3 is also a very good device for the price at which it is offered in the country today. S3 scores above Xperia SP in following things:
>Fairly better screen and viewing angles than X SP (super AmOled)
>Marginally Better battery backup
>16gb internal memory for apps and games (X SP has Half)
>much better camera, both front and back (has video call too)
In real life, i consider SGS3 can be a good option if budget can go for that.
Looks of X SP is also not that good but imo better than sgs3
Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.
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Thanks for both of your inputs.
I went for the SP in the end. Battery Backup is very very very subjective to if you have it rooted, how you use it etc. I couldn't give a flying about the FFC, since I never do video calls
So, depending on some key factors regarding on what is what when you unlock the bootloader, you might be seeing the (SP)artan Rom soon enough...
Mods, you can close the thread. My questions have been answered.
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SO finally u bought Xperia SP..
For how much did u get?
Got it sorta pricey, but I due to my recent problems with the Xperia Active, I decided to get it from here. It cost 360 Euros. I could find it in the UK for around 300, but then if something went wrong, I would have to pay 30 euros every time it had to go and come back to me from Greece to the UK.
First impressions are nice, I really like the floating touch. But i need to get used to it And yes, the soft keys do not get in the way, because the fingers kind of arch over them when you have it on landscape.
I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...
I think your question is in the wrong section completely Try looking in the S3 phone section.
rajeevxperia said:
I am going to return back my SP to the dealer ( My Friend ) and going for S3. I dont know y but i love S3. After using SP for three days i decided to buy S3... I am a big gamer.. Can i really go for S3.? And 4.2.2 update for S3 is on d way i think.. Any advice From Any Old S3 user ? Pls ...
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If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend
IE-coRe said:
If you care about gaming xperia sp is a better choice becouse the adreno 320 is way better than mali 400. Current gamesrun well on both but think about the future my friend
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Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..
rajeevxperia said:
Thanks for the reply my friend. I wil go for S3 ( Some budget problem dude ) ..
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Most games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.
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Must games require only 2 cores, and the rumour about Key Lime Pie requiring quad core is just BS, as that will leave out the dual core Galaxy S3, all but 3 Xperias and the Nexus 10.
Nexus 10 owners will then be pissed that the nexus 7 guys who paid less will get KLP. Impossible on Google's part.
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U r correct. Me also heared that rumor. But i dont really care about future updates.. I will not keep any mobile more than a Year...
Which I want to choose: GS3 or XSP??
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???
jasonwsc said:
I personally played around with both for quite some time, and they are both good phones.
The s3 has a slightly better sound quality and camera, although the build quality is atrocious. It has a smaller but removable battery, and a larger internal storage.
The xperia sp has a larger battery and much better build quality, although the camera is not great. I really like the light strip.
Both devices have similar performance, although the galaxy s3 has a laggy gallery.
I would say go for whichever is cheaper. The xperia sp is however released later so maybe longer support from Sony?
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Both phones have very reflective screens, which means you can't really see anything on both on a sunny day.
Never had a problem with soft keys, neither typing nor gaming is affected. I play nfs, asphalt and modern combat.
Sent from my Xperia SP using xda premium
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According to Quadrant, 3D-mark and Antutu, and general percieved performance, the Adreno 320 is Faster than the Mali400 in the S3 and the Adreno 225 in the US S3,
Linpack shows approximately the Dual core Krait CPU with Double the CPU MFLOPs, compared to the slower Quad core Cortex A9 Exynos CPU in the S3.
but don't get me wrong, the S3 is still fast enpough to run any game out there at the moment.
Gone of Samsung, due to their Super Amoled screens and build quality.
as fo Not being able to see anything on the SP, dunno what your talking about, the screen is clearly much brighter than the Super Amoled screens and easily visible during Sunny days.
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asman.kr said:
Guys, I love gaming and also watching movies.. I like to run apps.. But I confused in these 2 smartphones..
I have budget for these 2 phones..
But I hear that Xperia SP have a display defect..nd also in battry backup..
So i turnd to GS3. But I also here a news that the glass of GS3 will broken when it falls down..
Guys, here I'm a ltl bit confused..
Can u plz suggst me a gud phone frm these 2 smartfones???
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Both are good performing phones,
as for the defects you mention, never experienced any of them.
the SP lasts longer on standby, due to stamina mode and a bigger battery,
can't comment on the S3, but judging by the Superamoled screen it probably has a longer screen on time,
the Glass screen on any phone CAN break if it falls down from a height or onto a sharp or hard surface etc,
Manufacturers are yet to give us a Indestructable screen, :silly:
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I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?
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I could either get the Xperia Sp for 0$ or get the S3 for 140$ through my carrier. I game a lot and the Adreno 320 is better than the Mali but, the support behind the S3 is much larger than the Sp. Which one should I get?
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Depends on what you want! i had to choose between these two phones as well i chose the xperia sp because of the build quality: metal vs plastic and performance wich is better then S3 I think the support behind this phone is reasonable with a soon upcoming 4.3 build
S3 without a second thought
S3 is a very high end phone which was released with an introductory price of above $600.
Samsung packed the best of its features into it.
It has won numerous awards and it was once the most bought android phone in the world.
The body of xperia sp is very tempting, but trust me, it is the internals that matter wayy more.
The back camera on the Xperia SP is very bad. The photos have noise, red-blue-greenish dots all around when zoomed. I clicked many photos myself on the mobile store. The 0.3 mp front camera is so horrible, that I'd rather not comment on it.
On the other hand, the back camera on the S3 is spectacular with no weak points to it. Superb clarity and there's no noise. The 1.9 MP front camera clicked some really beautiful shots.
The music quality on Xperia SP is good but not if you use walkman. The walkman's clearbass option increases the bass, however the volume of the sound is weirdly lowered at different points of the songs. This happens on all sony phones only. It's weird sony hasn't fixed it.
Use poweramp however, and you'll love all your songs.
The S3's sound quality is superb and it is an ideal phone for audiophiles. You can check the audio lab test results in this genuine GSMarena review -
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300_galaxy_s_iii-review-761p8.php
The battery on my S3 is amazing. I dont know about xperia sp, but after hearing from my friends, it is equally good.
Gaming on the S3 is superb as well. I have never seen any of my games lag on the s3. Xperia SP's snapdragon cpu is also very much ideal for gaming.
So the decision is yours
Ram wise the S3 is better but then If Were you guys just sell your SP save up some cash and buy the Nexus 5 because it is clearly the better one here
but nonetheless SP is better than that older S3...don't get so tempted by that bigger SUPER LCD2 screen it runs on older ARM hardware compared to the newer krait architecture our devices have
GPU wise the SP is still better and besides sound could easily be improved by installing Viper4Android so its no big deal

[Q] Xperia SP Users, please I need your suggestion on buying SP

Hello everybody,
Actually I was planning to purchase new xperia device... according to my budget, I thought of going for Xperia SP.
The reason for this thread is .. Can I go for SP as I am getting it in 19000 INR from ebay.in.. It is worth to buy or should i go for ZR which is 8000 INR more than SP price..
Will SP be future proof for atleast a year and will it Honami style 4.3 update. or just a common 4.3 update.
What do you think guys please.. suggest me!!!
and about considering the problems SP users are facing.
I don't Know how much is this in €. But SP is a really good choice! Buy the SP!
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Test the Camera before by XSP. Picture size and quality is no more up to date. Not poor, but other devices (XS or HTC one) make better pictures. All other works great.
Value for money phone
Since I own a Xperia SP for more than 2 months now, following are my impressions. Since I am being critical I'll list negatives first.
Negatives:
Xperia SP's biggest weakness is its camera. Pictures in low light are very bad for its price... pictures in day light are ok, but nothing too good. Pictures taken by SP have more noise in them. So over all SP's camera is very much worse as compared to, say, Galaxy S3's.
The screen is not as good as Super Amoled screens of Samsung's Galaxy series or HTC's & LG's IPS LCD. However, while indoors you will not have any issue. While outdoors, the screen is a bit reflective but is still manageable. I haven't faced any other display issue till now.
Wi-fi reception is truly a bit weaker than other phones, but the internet speed is not affected. Only range is lesser.
Some people have encountered the touch issue when the phone is kept on a table & not in your palm. Some people have also faced a bit of trouble while the phone is plugged in for charging via AC adapter. However, I haven't faced any of these issues.
Positives:
The best part about SP is its performance. Snapdragon S4 Pro is simply a beast and Adreno 320 GPU blows the competition out of water. Current flagships of various brands like Xperia Z, ZL, ZR, HTC One and LG Optimus G Pro all have the same GPU.
SP has 1 GB RAM, which although is not equivalent to these flagships, is enough even for the heaviest of games/apps available in market. However, real racing 3 has some issues. Other games run very well.
Another plus point of SP is its build quality & design. It doesn't look cheap like Samsung GS3 or GS4. The illumination bar at the bottom is a very nice aspect of the design.
The battery performance of SP is one of the better ones.
When used with Bravia Engine 2, the display is awesome while indoors. It is sufficiently bright.
PRICE!!! A total value for money.
So, keeping all these in mind I would suggest:
If you are too much in cell phone photography, explore other mobiles. Galaxy S3 could be good choice in that case. Glaxy S4 mini and Nexus 4 are also there. However, all these cost slightly more than SP.
If 20K is your budget, then go for SP. You won't find a better phone at that price.
If you don't want even slightest of performance issue, surety of many more updates & have the extra budget then you can also give Xperia ZR a serious thought. It has a faster processor, more RAM & better camera in addition to being dust & waterproof. Battery life of ZR is even better than SP's.
Pretty much agree with the post from the_helix.
I think Sony have been clever with this device, they have taken away the things that average/practical users don't really care about.
Do you really need 400+ PPI, 1080p screen, a big internal memory if there's space for a memory card, more RAM etc? They have instead made sure that the processor is top notch, given it 4G and NFC - so you get almost flagship performance at half the price.
Yes some things could be better (there is always something to complain about - the S4 and HTC One are not immune from this either), but with a bigger screen and more robust build than the competition in this price range (the mini S4 and mini HTC One) I think this is the best mid-range phone on the market.
I think it's future proof - but within reason, some games developers always push the boundaries and make software that will only run really well on top devices. I think/hope it will see the next iteration of Android - is it really going to be called kit-kat?
hi,
purchased today my xperia sp in ebay.in. waiting for delivery. so now i being here for have a glance. iam biggest fan of sony till now i used four mobiles from sony, ( J230i, w810, x8, mini pro). and this is my fifth from sony. hope this mobile will meet my expectations. will join u later guys after getting my sp in hands. cheers!
Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....
session20 said:
Well guys, I finally ordered Xperia ZL. Thank you everybody for replies.....
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why bro? not satisfied with sp?
rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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nope....Actually, I got some extra money, so thought to go for ZL... for 27000 INR
rajkumar85 said:
why bro? not satisfied with sp?
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Good choice, the sp is just ****ed up!

small advice from Z users !!

i have Samsung S3 4G Lte and i want to convert to Xperia Z !! my S3 is very nice, fast and battery friendly.
i like the Z because of its water proof and 13 mp camera.
so can any one please tell me is it worth to change my phone or the z isn't that good ??
i mean is the z deserve to have or it is not that cool as the specs says??
thanks for advice every one
yahyanael said:
i have Samsung S3 4G Lte and i want to convert to Xperia Z !! my S3 is very nice, fast and battery friendly.
i like the Z because of its water proof and 13 mp camera.
so can any one please tell me is it worth to change my phone or the z isn't that good ??
i mean is the z deserve to have or it is not that cool as the specs says??
thanks for advice every one
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How much do you want to spent? The XZ is a good phone, but if you're happy with your S3 there's no need to upgrade...
Also the XZ has become old.... if you're able to spend more, take the XZ2
The benchmarks say that Z is definetely faster and it is.
I had both
And personally i would say i like the XperiaZ a lot better than the SGS3.
The overall-look and feel is just amazing, the SGS3 in comparence felt cheap, and i really really hated the blue-ish screen of the SGS3,
although overall it had better viewing angles than the XperiaZ.
Camera: In dark conditions be it in video or picture-mode, the SGS3 surpasses the XperiaZ, in daylight the Camera of the Xperia-Z is better, except for Macro-Shots, those are better on the SGS3 too.
Sound: The sound that the microphone of the XperiaZ records (videos, telephone) is really crystal-clear compared to the SGS3 one.
The Headset/In-Ears are better on the Sony as usual, but even with other/better (Sennheiser/Audiotechnica/AKG)-Headphones the sound out of the Headphone-Jack of the XperiaZ is better than that of the SGS3
The Buildin-Speakers therefore are better/louder on the SGS3.
If you should purchase the XperiaZ is really up to you, in my location they are actually really cheap to get, so probably yea.
Although the Xperia Z1 Compact might be a better upgrade.
The Z1-Compact has a lot better Battery-Life a better processor and would be overall (in my opinion) the best upgrade, its not as expensive as the Z1/Z2 but on the other hand has superior hardware and battery-life compared to the XperiaZ.
But its really your decision, i can't make a decision for you
Hope it helped.
as a almost two month user of xperia z I can say one think: Buy it if you gonna use it as a nice looking phone(call, sms, social). For anything else forget about z, why? because of battery. so what if its fast? so what if it can run any game or app, battery on z is just most hilarious joke i've seen for past few years of my phones.
I love my xperia z, its look amazing, its durable, screen is very good and its fast but when you unplug it from charger at 7:00 you gonna need it after... 5h of typical use(LTE internet, NFC, camera). Better buy z1 compact or z2... sad but true, and looking at android 4.4 and how it thread batteries on others phones(not only sony) I think that 4.4 update for z gonna be major flop for battery...
Try Xperia z and other varians. Its best smartphone in the world (of course for me)
sorry for bad english. i hope you understand what i mean..

[Q] Xperia Z or LG G2

Hi, I am thinking about buying a new phone and I can't decide between Xperia Z and LG G2. They are roughly the same price in my country. I don't care much about the software, since I am going to flash AOSP or CM anyway. Also I don't care about camera too much. I care about display and durability. I like Xperia Z, but the battery life is a huge dealbreaker for me. So I'd like to ask how is the performance and battery life on Lollipop..
Xperia Z
Pros
SD Card Slot
Waterproof
Great looks
Better manufacturer support IMO
LG G2
Pros
Battery life
Better performance
tadeas482 said:
Hi, I am thinking about buying a new phone and I can't decide between Xperia Z and LG G2. They are roughly the same price in my country. I don't care much about the software, since I am going to flash AOSP or CM anyway. Also I don't care about camera too much. I care about display and durability. I like Xperia Z, but the battery life is a huge dealbreaker for me. So I'd like to ask how is the performance and battery life on Lollipop..
Xperia Z
Pros
SD Card Slot
Waterproof
Great looks
Better manufacturer support IMO
LG G2
Pros
Battery life
Better performance
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It's like choosing between apples and oranges. Both taste good, it depends on preferences.
Waterproof feature yes it's great, but if you listen to music on the phone you might want to look for Z1/Z2/Z3. Xperia Z has the headphone jack covered and it's very unconfortable listening to music on it. Also the cover caps are not exactly ment for intense usage, inserting and pulling the caps frequently might result in loss of waterproof. They have a tiny rubber on the cap that might come off. It happened to me once after 8 months.
Battery life isnt great but it lasts through the day with intense activity and bluetooth music.
It does look F***ing great and the SD card slot is a huge plus. I have 64 gb on it. Phone memory is for huge games and SD is for music, movies and pictures.
While regarding performance you can't really tell the difference. Xperia Z is also snappy and i didn't encounter any lag in menues or such. It's heavily moded so i expected to see poor performance but no.
Conclusion, buy the Z1 or Z2 or if your wallet is feeling fat, Z3. You'll get better battery life, brighter screen, better camera, and ease of acces to the headphone jack
it's z1 and LG G2 not XZ and G2
Sebi673 said:
It's like choosing between apples and oranges. Both taste good, it depends on preferences.
Waterproof feature yes it's great, but if you listen to music on the phone you might want to look for Z1/Z2/Z3. Xperia Z has the headphone jack covered and it's very unconfortable listening to music on it. Also the cover caps are not exactly ment for intense usage, inserting and pulling the caps frequently might result in loss of waterproof. They have a tiny rubber on the cap that might come off. It happened to me once after 8 months.
Battery life isnt great but it lasts through the day with intense activity and bluetooth music.
It does look F***ing great and the SD card slot is a huge plus. I have 64 gb on it. Phone memory is for huge games and SD is for music, movies and pictures.
While regarding performance you can't really tell the difference. Xperia Z is also snappy and i didn't encounter any lag in menues or such. It's heavily moded so i expected to see poor performance but no.
Conclusion, buy the Z1 or Z2 or if your wallet is feeling fat, Z3. You'll get better battery life, brighter screen, better camera, and ease of acces to the headphone jack
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I second his opinion, XZ was more of a concept phone. Rather buy the Xperia Z1 or Xperia Z2.
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If i had to decide, whether to buy a Z or G2, i would have chosen the G2! The only flaw i see is the lack of the possibility to expand the storage.
A few words to concerning your list:
- The offered waterressistance of the Z is a mere wish, so this part should not count!
- Design is so individually.....
- Battery as well as screen should be a clear pro for the g2
If you can afford a z3 compact - i would choose this!
But you asked for oppinions whether to buy a "Z" or a "G2".
Rein haun,
David
tadeas482 said:
Hi, I am thinking about buying a new phone and I can't decide between Xperia Z and LG G2. They are roughly the same price in my country. I don't care much about the software, since I am going to flash AOSP or CM anyway. Also I don't care about camera too much. I care about display and durability. I like Xperia Z, but the battery life is a huge dealbreaker for me. So I'd like to ask how is the performance and battery life on Lollipop..
Xperia Z
Pros
SD Card Slot
Waterproof
Great looks
Better manufacturer support IMO
LG G2
Pros
Battery life
Better performance
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I seriously have no idea why are you even comparing these two phones. you can blindly go for. LG g2. not that i am underestimating xperia z. they dont have anything in common to compare
LG g2
Snapdragon 800, 1080p 60 fps video recorder, optical image stabilisation, amazing display, IR port. though its limited by storage space, you can go for 32gb variant. which i would say more than enough.
Xperia z
water proof, almost outdated processor. camera is good but its not upto lg g2. ya thats it. if you are comparing as to money. i would rather suggest you to buy Xperia ZL which is exact xperia z without water proof and lesser price and IR port is a plus in Xperia ZL.
Thanks for your opinions.....I may get Z1
well being the xperia fanboy i love xperia phones
but on the logical side, my cousin has been though 3 LG G2's all returned because of horrible battery life. as soon as it updated to KK the battery performance dropped.
besides the issue of the battery's was not charging because of 3rd party charges.
moral of story LG does not play nice with 3rd party chargers..

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