So Should I Get the Moto X? - Moto X Q&A

I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.

If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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lowvolt1 said:
If its been updated your S.O.L! If it hasn't its super easy.
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****. That's what I was afraid of.

It a great device either way
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Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition

thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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Even without root this phone is amazing! This is coming from someone who used to flash a new rom daily. Now like you, I still prefer root for certain apps but this phone is so good it would be just as enjoyable without root. You might get lucky and get one that's been in the cabinet for a couple of weeks then you could root it. If not I'd still get it. I would bet we will have a way to root the newer software before long anyway.
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There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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theraffman said:
There is an alternative root method, it is not going to get released before 4.4 though... If it get released now, then the exploit will undoubtedly get patch with 4.4... So the creator is waiting for the big update to release, then release his root method.
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Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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A while back he said he had another way to root but would hold it back until 4.3+ update. That's cool he's pushing it out sooner... Hopefully the exploit doesn't get patched in the next update though, I understand the reason for waiting on these things, it's like playing chess.
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droe411 said:
Jcase is working on pwnmymoto2, which he stated on twitter may be released today. This is to root the update.
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Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?

4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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thekendog said:
Is the latest update the one with the camera improvements?
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Yes.
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1ManWolfePack said:
4.4 is a completely different ballgame when it comes to root and security exploits. His method was patched, that's why he's releasing it. Won't matter when 4.4 comes...
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I was just going off of what jcase had previously said... But he was probably thinking the next big update was 4.3 which was still jb, he probably decide to release since we're now going straight to kk.
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SymbioticGenius said:
Not sure if it is but there is always the Dev edition
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I would be very careful of the Dev edition. With carriers you get good support and exchanges. With Moto, the support is horrible and no chance for an exchange.

thekendog said:
I'm contemplating getting a Moto X on Verizon. I want root. Don't care about ROMs or anything just want to be able to do a couple things mainly. I've read some threads and what not and am a little confused about how easy it is to root the thing with the latest update. Is it possible or did they patch it up? I'd be getting the phone from Verizon so I'm guessing it'd be up to date. Thanks in advance.
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there is an exploit for the comera ota update now. It is not that complicated if you toy with your phone and know how to use adb and run some simple commands. There is a video for it and another thread that gives you instructions for windows for those that really don't know how to run things in cmd prompt.

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OTA update to improve camera - sprint?

So I'm seeing these articles about the sprint moto x getting an update but I haven't received or seen much talk about the sprint version on here getting that update. Is it still only hitting certain areas? Could someone maybe get us sprint users that are unlocked get a stock system.img and boot.img with that update applied?
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mhsbrian said:
So I'm seeing these articles about the sprint moto x getting an update but I haven't received or seen much talk about the sprint version on here getting that update. Is it still only hitting certain areas? Could someone maybe get us sprint users that are unlocked get a stock system.img and boot.img with that update applied?
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Please god. I've been trying to find ANYTHING that can put this update on my phone. Nobody has posted the update.zip or any of the images or anything. I've seen people say they've received the update, but that's about it. I really want this update.
Minus the release notes I have seen very little about this update from anyone that has it. I would like to hear what people are seeing.
Bradart said:
Please god. I've been trying to find ANYTHING that can put this update on my phone. Nobody has posted the update.zip or any of the images or anything. I've seen people say they've received the update, but that's about it. I really want this update.
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mikeruoc said:
Minus the release notes I have seen very little about this update from anyone that has it. I would like to hear what people are seeing.
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Me too. It seems like they're rolling it out one phone at a time.
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Yeah as soon as I get it I'm dumping it here. I don't know why it's taking so long.
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I have not seen much from the Tmobile people also. I am wondering if they sent it to a small number of phones as a test.
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Yeah as soon as I get it I'm dumping it here. I don't know why it's taking so long.
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Ok so I got the update a few days ago and it failed to install because I'm unlocked and rooted and all that jazz. So I grabbed the zip file out of /cache and uploaded it here:
https://db.tt/oqP3l1Qs
For what it's worth, the last few times I've checked for an update, my phone says I'm up to date even though I'm still on 4.2.
Edit: Dropbox instead of Drive
Edit: Just realized this zip is the same software version I already have. Then why did my phone tell me it was an update to be downloaded?
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I know it isn't much help but I was in the Sprint Store yesterday and their demo phone had the update sitting ready to install. They wouldn't let me get ahold of it and take it off though. Could have very easily done so in a few minutes.
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Damn, I just ordered mine and thought this was released already. I have the HTC one and was tired of waiting on a camera fix.
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magui43212 said:
Ok so I got the update a few days ago and it failed to install because I'm unlocked and rooted and all that jazz. So I grabbed the zip file out of /cache and uploaded it here:
https://db.tt/oqP3l1Qs
For what it's worth, the last few times I've checked for an update, my phone says I'm up to date even though I'm still on 4.2.
Edit: Dropbox instead of Drive
Edit: Just realized this zip is the same software version I already have. Then why did my phone tell me it was an update to be downloaded?
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I flashed the stock system.img and recovery.img flashed this file and it flashed successfully....You have something here....
Im booting up right now right after flashing to read my build prop and build number...Will also check camera performance.
Someone please go to their about phone section and tell me their kernel version, everything in their please, post an SS!
Someone posted that the initial roll-out was a test run and only sent to a fraction of Sprint users. The main roll-out is supposed to happen on October 2.
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Someone posted that the initial roll-out was a test run and only sent to a fraction of Sprint users. The main roll-out is supposed to happen on October 2.
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If you a running a sprint Moto X, could you take an SS of your about phone sections so I could see your system and kernel version please. The update I just installed has appeared to upgraded my kernel version as well, and I want to make sure I am accurate when I say that.
mhsbrian said:
If you a running a sprint Moto X, could you take an SS of your about phone sections so I could see your system and kernel version please. The update I just installed has appeared to upgraded my kernel version as well, and I want to make sure I am accurate when I say that.
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Here you go:
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Here you go:
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!!!
We have ourselves an update on sprint devices fellas...
My SS attached, and as you can see upgraded kernel as well as system, and baseband...
mhsbrian said:
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We have ourselves an update on sprint devices fellas...
My SS attached, and as you can see upgraded kernel as well as system, and baseband...
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Interesting. The name of the zip says 139.12.2 but it brought you up to 139.14.4. I guess it was mislabeled.
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Anyway to install the OTA zip without root? Never done that and don't want to root just yet.
EDIT* Never mind... found out how to enter recovery mode and select update from zip without rooting the device.
Confirmed as well - this is 139.14.4
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Interesting. The name of the zip says 139.12.2 but it brought you up to 139.14.4. I guess it was mislabeled.
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It could be its just labeled with the system it's targeted to update.
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So...
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to use this update on Verizon branded Moto X's? I don't know if this update includes radios or basebands. Also, where the hell is the tmobile apk for the camera??
Update applied. Worked just fine just like the other guy said. Anyone who wants the update can do this through stock recovery.
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So can I get the step by step instructions to apply this manually. I have downloaded the file from the drop box link here in this thread. I do not have rot nor is my boot loader unlocked. I can get phone into recovery via fast boot and selecting recovery but all I get is an android laying down with an error stating no command. I have moved the file to the root of my SD card but am unable to put it into cache obviously without root access.
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[Q] Installing custom recovery/Rom

I'm a noob to Motorola, just rooted my X last night(had to wait because I accepted the OTA). I'm on Verizon/locked bootloader and I'm not sure how to go about installing recovery/ROM. I apologize if this has been covered elsewhere but could someone point me in the right direction, maybe a tutorial on what to do. Thanks! Comments are always appreciated!
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you cannot unless you bought the developer edition. You have a locked bootloader.
What's the perk of rooting the phone then?
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pborner said:
What's the perk of rooting the phone then?
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Being able to do many more things than a non rooted phone.
Like uninstalling/freezing bloatware, backing up app data via TiBu or other app, enabling free wireless tethering, and so on. There is more you can do of course, but to me personally, those are the big three things I can't live without on a phone.
Thanks for the info! So basically I'm just waiting for someone to figure out how to unlock the bootloader before I can start flashing ROMs?
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pborner said:
Thanks for the info! So basically I'm just waiting for someone to figure out how to unlock the bootloader before I can start flashing ROMs?
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You best best is to do some research on using SafeStrap. The odds of a bootloader unlock coming about for the Moto X are very slim to none is my guess.
Thanks for the tip!
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will2live said:
You best best is to do some research on using SafeStrap. The odds of a bootloader unlock coming about for the Moto X are very slim to none is my guess.
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agreed about BL. But there are some rumors that jcase and teamirc might be working on something. A post a day or two ago led to some speculation that they may have found a BL unlock but it is highly speculative. The pledge thread is up to almost 1200 so there is at least some incentive. And being the second security team to crack a moto BL might be a pretty big deal for jcase and teamirc but we will see.
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Thanks for the tip!
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SS has been able to do custom roms for some time now, but nothing is really out for the moto x yet besides the vzw rom that allowed you to have the new OTA without having to take it and lock your BL from downgrading back to stock original FW. Some things may be out in the future, but because devs are finding it difficult to keep active notifications and touchless controls because moto isn't giving them access to what they need to incorporate it, it might be less likely that many roms come out because so many people like those aspects of the phone.
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Thanks for the tip!
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How can I enable SS if I can't flash it in the first place? Sorry if this is a stood question.
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Anyone try root?

Has anyone tried pwnmymoto to root kit Kat ota?
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strictlyphat said:
Has anyone tried pwnmymoto to root kit Kat ota?
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I assume jcase the creator did and it didn't work. He found another root exploit but isn't going to release it.
I wanna try. Will it mess my phone up?
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strictlyphat said:
I wanna try. Will it mess my phone up?
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no, that vulnerability has been patched, so if something you'll test your phone againsts that vulnerability and you'll fail (so you won't mess anything up)
Really sucks he wont help us out with 4.4. Being a family guy with a career...I understand. But damn...would love root on this thing
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I hope I'm not jumping the gun here, I did a while back and jcasr corrected me. But, if you read the bounty thread in the general section, he's 99.5% sure that he has figured out how to root 4.4 (may only be att though) without burning up an additional exploit... He is working on it and said he will release it when he gets a copy of the att ota.
Moto X rocking 4.4

LG G Flex 4.4

So rumor has it right now that theres an update coming out for the G Flex next month in April that is supposed to include 4.4 and also knock code. Do you guys think that this is an update everyone should do? Or is it going to make it even harder for people trying to unlock the bootloader if we update?
mja0318 said:
So rumor has it right now that theres an update coming out for the G Flex next month in April that is supposed to include 4.4 and also knock code. Do you guys think that this is an update everyone should do? Or is it going to make it even harder for people trying to unlock the bootloader if we update?
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I just got a g flex today and it's asking me to update it but I'm not sure I should. I wanna be able to root it..
deadenz said:
I just got a g flex today and it's asking me to update it but I'm not sure I should. I wanna be able to root it..
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That specific update is okay. You can still root.
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mja0318 said:
That specific update is okay. You can still root.
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nice. thank you.
I hope that rumor is for our us models
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This Update comes first to Asia-Europe
mja0318 said:
So rumor has it right now that theres an update coming out for the G Flex next month in April that is supposed to include 4.4 and also knock code. Do you guys think that this is an update everyone should do? Or is it going to make it even harder for people trying to unlock the bootloader if we update?
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I'm pretty sure the current root method won't work once the Flex is updated to KitKat. I know with the G2 a developer was able to make a stock KitKat Rom with Root quickly. Not sure the Flex will be so lucky since the Flex seems more locked down then the G2. I was a flash whore but I'm cool with stock for now.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_flex_receives_android_442_kitkat_update_with_knock_code_-news-8153.php
Sprint is usually quick with updates so hopefully they push it out real soon
Gonna be awhile I'd imagine for US due to most of the carriers taking their good Ole time pushing them through. Just bought mine today and has 4.2.2, lol! I had 4.3 on my note 2. I wish I had a time machine like that, haha!
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We will get it pretty soon.....I Hope ? atleast my note 3 already has 4.4.2 ?
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mr pnut said:
We will get it pretty soon.....I Hope ? atleast my note 3 already has 4.4.2 ?
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Just got a reply from LG that there will come official info for the EU/nordic model within a few weeks
For those of us that are rooted how will we get the ota update? Will it come to use and we can just do the update and still keep the root or do we have to unroot in order to update?
brezuno said:
For those of us that are rooted how will we get the ota update? Will it come to use and we can just do the update and still keep the root or do we have to unroot in order to update?
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You would need to unroot. Do not try ota while rooted.
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I wont, i remember when i had my roote htc incredible i wouldnt get ota's i would have to flash them but since we cant do that for nor just wondering if it was possible with the flex.
brezuno said:
I wont, i remember when i had my roote htc incredible i wouldnt get ota's i would have to flash them but since we cant do that for nor just wondering if it was possible with the flex.
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there haven't been any updates on the flex, so no one knows if you can do it or not..
the cardinal rule has always been NEVER do an OTA update if you are rooted..
wase4711 said:
there haven't been any updates on the flex, so no one knows if you can do it or not..
the cardinal rule has always been NEVER do an OTA update if you are rooted..
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I just received an update 2 days ago. Still 4.2.2 but just saying.
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deadenz said:
I just received an update 2 days ago. Still 4.2.2 but just saying.
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that was an ATT update, NOT an LG system update...not the same thing at all..
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that was an ATT update, NOT an LG system update...not the same thing at all..
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Oh I see.. Sorry about that. So is there an lg KitKat update coming?
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deadenz said:
Oh I see.. Sorry about that. So is there an lg KitKat update coming?
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according to all the internet rumor mills/sources, its coming sometime in the next 30 days.
since each carrier has their own "version" that they push, it could be alot sooner or alot later, depending on your carrier..

Bootloader is unlockable again

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/16/motorola-bootloader-unlock-razr-hd-towelroot/
Haven't tried this myself (already unlocked)
Supposedly this method will work on kitkat 4.4.2, and will allow the use of motopocalypse
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Doing this tonight before moto patches it
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Can this be used on JB stock?
sherpajosh said:
Can this be used on JB stock?
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Nope. You'll have to update to 4.4.2 in order to perform the unlock
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Leraeniesh said:
Nope. You'll have to update to 4.4.2 in order to perform the unlock
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However, once unlocked on 4.4.2, you can freely downgrade back to 4.1.2 and have an unlocked bootloader as well
Coronado is dead said:
However, once unlocked on 4.4.2, you can freely downgrade back to 4.1.2 and have an unlocked bootloader as well
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Downgrading your security version will brick your device, so I wouldent suggest it.
However, you can use AOSP 4.1.2 with it.
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Leraeniesh said:
Downgrading your security version will brick your device, so I wouldent suggest it.
However, you can use AOSP 4.1.2 with it.
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Then just don't flash the security component. Just do System and I think boot? I'd have to check mine, but I went from 4.4.2 to 4.1.2 and back to 4.4.2 again. It can be done if you are careful
Coronado is dead said:
Then just don't flash the security component. Just do System and I think boot? I'd have to check mine, but I went from 4.4.2 to 4.1.2 and back to 4.4.2 again. It can be done if you are careful
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If you update everything to 4.2.2, unlock, then flash your modem, kernel and system to 4.1.2 you might have success.
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Very happy to see an unlock method again for folks that missed out.. Sad to see it after many have moved on to other devices.
romma1 said:
Very happy to see an unlock method again for folks that missed out.. Sad to see it after many have moved on to other devices.
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The XT907 is surprisingly capable for its age.
Hoping that Verizon launches an LTE variant of the Moto G. It's a worthy successor to the RAZR M.
was this thread really necessary? the page u linked to links to a thread on xda in the razr m general section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
Unlocked it the first chance I got but for some reason the custom recovery won't work. However, if you guys got it working on your phones, mind if you can toss me the rope, so I can fix it.
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Unlocked it the first chance I got but for some reason the custom recovery won't work. However, if you guys got it working on your phones, mind if you can toss me the rope, so I can fix it.
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not all work on kitkat..here's a link to @dhacker29 folder http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/ ....this one works if you have a Razr M on kitkat:
http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/TWRP2710-RAZR_M-KITKAT.img
Thanks! The Kit Kat version of TWRP works!
Now, it's time to rape the bloatwares.

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