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Nexus 5 camera does NOT suck

So sick of reviewers saying the camera is crappy or the software is too slow. I have compared my Nexus 5 camera against these phones below and it is so night and day its sick. The nexus 5 camera takes phenomenal photos. The pics are crisp and clear and full of color. It sucks too because I really love my LG Optimus G pro but the camera is so bad I want to puke. In low light my S4 in night mode comes close but not close enough to the nexus 5. I think the only better camera I have tested was the iphone 5s which might even be on par. So don't worry about the camera as its spot on. The only reason I was going to go back to the OGP was the removable battery and the home button but man this nexus is nice. Guess its going to stay my main phone until something better comes along.
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- iphone 5s
- Galaxy Note II
- Galaxy S4
- Galaxy S3
- LG Optimus G Pro

mactruck said:
So sick of reviewers saying the camera is crappy or the software is too slow. I have compared my Nexus 5 camera against these phones below and it is so night and day its sick. The nexus 5 camera takes phenomenal photos. The pics are crisp and clear and full of color. It sucks too because I really love my LG Optimus G pro but the camera is so bad I want to puke. In low light my S4 in night mode comes close but not close enough to the nexus 5. I think the only better camera I have tested was the iphone 5s which might even be on par. So don't worry about the camera as its spot on. The only reason I was going to go back to the OGP was the removable battery and the home button but man this nexus is nice. Guess its going to stay my main phone until something better comes along.
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- iphone 5s
- Galaxy Note II
- Galaxy S4
- Galaxy S3
- LG Optimus G Pro
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The camera app is horrendous. The iPhone's camera app is beautiful and simple and more functional. The software IS too slow. It takes forever to focus. There is no burst mode to speak of. The iPhone can take a hundred shots in the time it takes the Nexus 5 to take 5.
The camera module in the Nexus 5 is a good one, and the phone is capable of taking great pictures, but every piece of software between the module and your finger hitting the on screen button seems to be getting in the way and making achieving that perfect shot as hard as possible. Sorry to say, but your opinion is wrong. The Nexus 5 in its current state does not have a camera experience even remotely comparable to the iPhone 5s. All of the Galaxy phones take better pictures and have less trouble focusing and have a more feature rich camera app as well. You may be right about the Optimus G Pro, but 1/5 aint that good. Being able to point to a handful of absolutely stunning shots that came from a Nexus 5 doesn't prove anything. It doesn't tell you how many hundreds had to be thrown away or retaken because of being out of focus or having the exposure all wrong, or how frustrating an experience it was to achieve that shot.

muyoso said:
The camera app is horrendous. The iPhone's camera app is beautiful and simple and more functional. The software IS too slow. It takes forever to focus. There is no burst mode to speak of. The iPhone can take a hundred shots in the time it takes the Nexus 5 to take 5.
The camera module in the Nexus 5 is a good one, and the phone is capable of taking great pictures, but every piece of software between the module and your finger hitting the on screen button seems to be getting in the way and making achieving that perfect shot as hard as possible. Sorry to say, but your opinion is wrong. The Nexus 5 in its current state does not have a camera experience even remotely comparable to the iPhone 5s. All of the Galaxy phones take better pictures and have less trouble focusing and have a more feature rich camera app as well. You may be right about the Optimus G Pro, but 1/5 aint that good. Being able to point to a handful of absolutely stunning shots that came from a Nexus 5 doesn't prove anything. It doesn't tell you how many hundreds had to be thrown away or retaken because of being out of focus or having the exposure all wrong, or how frustrating an experience it was to achieve that shot.
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You might be right about the software and speed but not about the quality. Nexus 5 takes a better photo than all the phones I listed and I have compared them until blue in the face.

muyoso said:
The camera app is horrendous. The iPhone's camera app is beautiful and simple and more functional. The software IS too slow. It takes forever to focus. There is no burst mode to speak of. The iPhone can take a hundred shots in the time it takes the Nexus 5 to take 5.
The camera module in the Nexus 5 is a good one, and the phone is capable of taking great pictures, but every piece of software between the module and your finger hitting the on screen button seems to be getting in the way and making achieving that perfect shot as hard as possible. Sorry to say, but your opinion is wrong. The Nexus 5 in its current state does not have a camera experience even remotely comparable to the iPhone 5s. All of the Galaxy phones take better pictures and have less trouble focusing and have a more feature rich camera app as well. You may be right about the Optimus G Pro, but 1/5 aint that good. Being able to point to a handful of absolutely stunning shots that came from a Nexus 5 doesn't prove anything. It doesn't tell you how many hundreds had to be thrown away or retaken because of being out of focus or having the exposure all wrong, or how frustrating an experience it was to achieve that shot.
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I don't have the issues u have ,my pictures look great first try , maybe u just suck at taking pictures .

Ye might be, nx5 camera look kinda need not real to me, so poor of colors
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drawde40599 said:
I don't have the issues u have ,my pictures look great first try , maybe u just suck at taking pictures .
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Price aside, the Nexus 5 delivers solid if unspectacular image quality. It’s definitely a contender, though if image quality if your absolute priority, there are phones with better-performing cameras: the Nokia Lumia 1020, and (under most conditions) the Sony Xperia Z1, Samsung Galaxy S4 and iPhone 5s will deliver technically superior photos. Even Nokia’s 925 (and the 928 Verizon variant) will usually best the Nexus. The point is that apart from exotics like the 1020, the competition isn’t blowing the Nexus 5 out of the water. It takes good pictures. Just not quite as good as the best.
Where the Nexus 5 falls down is speed: the S4 and 5s don’t keep you waiting. The iPhone in particular is a speed demon. The 1020 lumbers a bit, but it’s mostly fast when it counts. If you’re used to the latest generation or two of phone cameras, the Nexus 5 camera app will frustrate you with its plodding and hesitation. On the other hand, if you’re someone who shoots scenes that hold still, the lack of speed may be a non-issue.
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http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2158701905/google-nexus-nexus5-smartphone-camera-review?page=8
You dont have the issues I have because you choose to ignore them or don't know the difference.

muyoso said:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/2158701905/google-nexus-nexus5-smartphone-camera-review?page=8
You dont have the issues I have because you choose to ignore them or don't know the difference.
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I don't care what what that site says .... I use real life experiences and I never forget its a phone not a camera . the N5 takes great pictures in comparison to my other 16 androids . and well **** an iPhone .

I took this at a concert and it is one of the best phone camera concert pictures I've ever taken. I for one think the optics of the camera are great. The software on the other hand could be better.
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It's not a bad camera, specially when you consider how much sexiness is packed into this phone for that low cost.

-Cupper- said:
I took this at a concert and it is one of the best phone camera concert pictures I've ever taken. I for one think the optics of the camera are great. The software on the other hand could be better.
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Which mode were you using ? Action mode ? How come he's not blurry since he must've been moving.
I took some pics at a xmas dinner party a few days ago and while the exposure was good...the faces were blurry because they were moving (not by much but enough to cause the blur)

mactruck said:
You might be right about the software and speed but not about the quality. Nexus 5 takes a better photo than all the phones I listed and I have compared them until blue in the face.
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No way the Nexus 5 takes a better picture than the iPhone 5s especially with any low light situation. It is capable of taking good pictures in perfect conditions however. The real issue is the software completely sucks (terrible and slow focusing, etc) so no matter what you think, the average person is taking terrible pictures with the phone. And it is all because the camera software is terrible. There is no other way around it. So yes, it CAN take great shots. But most of the time it doesn't.

I have to agree with the guy, the Nexus 5 camera is not horrible but it seems quite a few devices are having issues which are most likely hardware or software related. My Nexus 5 camera is absolutely fine. I did notice the camera doesn't focus correctly on the subject, so don't snap a picture that isn't in focus or not focused on the right spot, that's on you.

I have a N5, iPhone 5, Note 2 and Galaxy S4 within my reach. Took them all for a spin today and lemme rate the cameras:
1. Galaxy S4. Camera is good, not bad software, no real issues at all.
2. Nexus 5. Yes the software sux but with Sur's Camera mod V1.3 it's better and I was able to get a better photo than the next 2 in almost every situation.
3. iPhone 5. Best software but the camera it self seems to be lacking. Especially in darker situations (today it was very wintery dark out there) so I had real trouble getting good clean photos.
4. Note 2. Pretty much on par with the iPhone but worse software and the camera it self is also pretty poor when compared to this bunch.
Honestly, I don't have too many complaints to the N5's camera considering the phone costs so much less than any of those did when they came out. Yes the software is the worst in the bunch but as it is SOFTware it can be changed and fixed and as long as the camera it self seems good, I can't see what all the fuss is about.
All this said, HDR has to be on. If it's off the photos are absolutely terrible for some reason.

ssconceptz said:
I have to agree with the guy, the Nexus 5 camera is not horrible but it seems quite a few devices are having issues which are most likely hardware or software related. My Nexus 5 camera is absolutely fine. I did notice the camera doesn't focus correctly on the subject, so don't snap a picture that isn't in focus or not focused on the right spot, that's on you.
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I'm replying to you, but this goes to everybody that says the camera isn't slow or problematic when focusing:
You must not have kids or pets.
Trying to focus on something that is moving is an *impossible* feat with this phone. The phone can take great photos, but the image quality is *not* better than the iPhone 5S or Galaxy S4. Thinking it is means you're delusional, because every review site (including photography sites, where they specialize in determining exactly what we're talking about) agrees with me. The camera is adequate, but it is not a superb shooter. Most of that is arguably the software...since, with the right conditions, the phone *can* take great pictures. Until it's reliable though, in doing so, the camera isn't that helpful.
Have you thought that maybe your opinion is a bit biased? After taking side-by-side pictures using my GS4, iPhone 5S, and Nexus 5 I can easily see that the Nexus 5 only keeps up when people aren't moving or I'm able to really take the time to set up the shot. It takes *FAR* too long to open the camera app (which is a huge factor for a smartphone camera), and it takes *FAR* too long to actually take the shot (shutter-lag). I can go from hitting the power button to getting a well-focused picture on my GS4 or iPhone 5S in under 2 seconds...with the Nexus 5 that stretches to around 6-7 seconds, minimum. That's a huge difference when your kid just smacked herself in the face with cake and you want to get a picture before she wipes it off and starts screaming.
The Nexus 5 camera is adequate, but not superb.

hotleadsingerguy said:
I'm replying to you, but this goes to everybody that says the camera isn't slow or problematic when focusing:
You must not have kids or pets.
Trying to focus on something that is moving is an *impossible* feat with this phone. The phone can take great photos, but the image quality is *not* better than the iPhone 5S or Galaxy S4. Thinking it is means you're delusional, because every review site (including photography sites, where they specialize in determining exactly what we're talking about) agrees with me. The camera is adequate, but it is not a superb shooter. Most of that is arguably the software...since, with the right conditions, the phone *can* take great pictures. Until it's reliable though, in doing so, the camera isn't that helpful.
Have you thought that maybe your opinion is a bit biased? After taking side-by-side pictures using my GS4, iPhone 5S, and Nexus 5 I can easily see that the Nexus 5 only keeps up when people aren't moving or I'm able to really take the time to set up the shot. It takes *FAR* too long to open the camera app (which is a huge factor for a smartphone camera), and it takes *FAR* too long to actually take the shot (shutter-lag). I can go from hitting the power button to getting a well-focused picture on my GS4 or iPhone 5S in under 2 seconds...with the Nexus 5 that stretches to around 6-7 seconds, minimum. That's a huge difference when your kid just smacked herself in the face with cake and you want to get a picture before she wipes it off and starts screaming.
The Nexus 5 camera is adequate, but not superb.
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Ok, moving targets noted but lets leave that out for a second and talk about standing still objects. Here the nexus camera takes the best photos. Plenty more detail, colors and light than all the others. This is what I am saying. I would attribute the lack of focusing on moving targets a software problem that hopefully will get fixed but in the end the Nexus 5 has the best camera module than the others. That is really what I am saying and honestly that is what really counts. If I want to take actions shots I will use my Canon 7D.

ravenwood27 said:
Which mode were you using ? Action mode ? How come he's not blurry since he must've been moving.
I took some pics at a xmas dinner party a few days ago and while the exposure was good...the faces were blurry because they were moving (not by much but enough to cause the blur)
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This is when I was taking a video. In video mode you can tap on the screen to take a picture while shooting video. I found that most of the pictures I took like this weren't blurry The weird thing also is that when you're in video mode there's ZSL (zero shutter lag) which there isn't normally. So for parts of the concert i'd just throw it into video mode and tap on the screen for the pictures. NOW, I know that the pictures would only be 1920x1080 instead of 3264x2448, but I prefer this. I HATE the 3264x2488 format, it looks to squareish for me lol. Also i'd rather the pictures be crisp and not blurry and a tad bit smaller then having them be blurry and bigger lol. Just my thoughts

The camera is fine, the software is terrible so the camera might as well suck. Pictures are typically out of focus after repeat attempts to get it to focus.

mactruck said:
So sick of reviewers saying the camera is crappy or the software is too slow. I have compared my Nexus 5 camera against these phones below and it is so night and day its sick. The nexus 5 camera takes phenomenal photos. The pics are crisp and clear and full of color. It sucks too because I really love my LG Optimus G pro but the camera is so bad I want to puke. In low light my S4 in night mode comes close but not close enough to the nexus 5. I think the only better camera I have tested was the iphone 5s which might even be on par. So don't worry about the camera as its spot on. The only reason I was going to go back to the OGP was the removable battery and the home button but man this nexus is nice. Guess its going to stay my main phone until something better comes along.
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- iphone 5s
- Galaxy Note II
- Galaxy S4
- Galaxy S3
- LG Optimus G Pro
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You are a looser tester.
S4 camera is way much better than N5. It's higher mpix and it focuses twice much faster.

Hasn't Google already addressed the camera issue? It's already been said that Google are working on the software side since they know it's ruining photos.

I seriously love my Nexus 5 camera, sure it has some downsides like shooting time etc.. but overall the quality of pictures I took and HDR+ was a huge improvement over my nexus 4 and even my GS4. OIS was a huge help I do have shaky hands

[Discussion] Improve Camera Quality

Hello. So, there has been a confusion on how to capture better photos and videos on Nexus 5. With the introduction of Android Lollipop we have the option to shoot RAW photos (which is basically the same as before, with the difference being that the image is not compressed or processed), and also we got a great app which is called L Camera..
L Camera was a great alternative for those who wanted to squeeze out as much as Nexus 5's camera has to offer. We even got to shoot at 1080p/60fps(although it was never fixed to work properly) and a resolution very close to 4K.
I hoped that since Google unlocked all this power for us with Lollipop, Marshmallow was going to bring even better stuff on the table. This does not seem to be the case though.
So, right now we are basically stuck in terms of camera options. The L Camera has been outdated, problematic and unsupported for quite some while now and Google's stock camera is still really bad.
How do you feel about all this guys? Have you found any better camera app than L Camera that works on Marshmallow? Are you building something yourselves? (maybe and improved version of L Camera)
Let's discuss this!

There is this "Manual Camera", "Camera FV-5", and "Open Camera"

This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.

I use Proshot, really great camera app.
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jshames said:
This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
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Got to agree. I notice especially low light performance has improved greatly on the stock camera app on marshmallow. Not sure what Google has done but good job on them for doing it. It still responses like crap and lags some times but if the pictures are better I am all for it.

Stock app is much better its what I call serviceable now. I always knew the Nexus 5s camera was capable but poor software always held it back. Sad to see it took almost 3 years after it launched to become capable.
Open camera is also a great app and 100% free and open source

The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive

The lens is prone to gather grease from you fingers causing a hazy streaky look. I always bring a microfiber cloth to clean it off before shooting.
There isnt a proper RAW color profile available so it takes work to get images to pop like the JPEGs do. One of these days I'l generate one, it requires shooting a colorchecker chart outside in clear mid-day.

I haven't taken much pictures with it but this one.
I have a 6S and iPhone 5, I had lost my iPhone 5 out of stupidity. I wanted a cheap replacement and heard good things about the nexus, I had already tried the Galaxy s5 and htc one m8 so might as well kill 2 birds with one stone a good cheap phone and a chance to try out the nexus 5. Very impressed so far, very smooth. Runs much smoother then the galaxies I had. Ran me $160 CAD and it's unlocked
I decided to take a picture last night with the nexus. Came out amazing, took some other low lighting shots in my room and compared it to my 6s and it isn't that bad to be completely honest much better then my s5, Note edge and htc in low lighting.

The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.

RazorMC said:
The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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RoadToNever said:
It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.

RazorMC said:
RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.

RoadToNever said:
Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?

RazorMC said:
True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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I have a simple checklist I go through when processing raw photos: exposure, white balance and NR if needed. I rarely need anything else so for a single shot I'm normally done in less than a minute. Raw converters offer many options which can seem overwhelming for the novice, but there's nothing to it if you stick to the most important ones. OTOH if you are working on an uncalibrated monitor there's a small chance are you might be making things worse color-wise. I don't do HDR, sorry.

Snap camera? I threw it under system/apps, changed the name to camera2.apk and even the power button hot key works.
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"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive

prog19 said:
"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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I'm enjoying "A Better Camera" too. It's really simple to use and produces nice photos. But I still prefer Camera FV-5 over it when I need manual setings.

prog19 said:
The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5

onesolo said:
lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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And output any dng to full resolution.
The sad thing about LR is the import picture method
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive

Why the OnePlus 5 Camera is a Big Fail is real world usage

'Clearer Photos' - written on the side of the box. The biggest hype surrounding the OnePlus 5 has been about the camera. On paper the specs look great, 'benchmark' photos and scores look good too. But in real world usage it's a big Fail. This is why..
All else being equal, more mega pixels means lower quality images. This may be a surprise to some. This is the reason. More pixels on a sensor means each pixel is smaller. Which means over the same time period less light is recorded on each pixel. To solve this problem there are two solutions. 1) Hold the shutter open longer to capture more light. Longer shutter times causes blurring and softness if any movement is present. 2) Increase the amplification from the sensor (ISO). This causes noise and degrades the image. The result is lower quality photos.
So why have a high Megapixel count? Resolution. In the early days of digital photography the low resolution from cameras was a limiting factor and you could easily see the pixels if you zoomed in. 1.3MP for example is 1280x1200 pixels. That's not going to look great on a high resolution screen or blown up. So what about the 20MP sensor in the OnePlus 5? Well that's 3'600x5'400 pixels! This is only useful if you're printing images out in a large poster size. With the tiny sensors in a mobile phone you'll only be able to produce good quality images at this resolution if there's tons of light and the scene is still.
Here's a newsflash for OnePlus: We don't use our mobile phones to take photos of trees in the sun (unless you're a phone reviewer). We use our phones to take photos of family, friends, pets, activities, often inside or at night and other low light scenarios and we post them on Facebook and Instagram.
We need in focus, non blurred, 'Clearer' photos that will mostly be viewed on other phones. This translates to phones with good low light performance with fast auto-focus. We don't need or want 20MP degrading that quality. We also need a better auto-focus system. Have a look at the last couple generations of the Samsung Galaxy to see how it should be done.
This is why the OnePlus 5 camera fails in real life usage and is a disappointment. Please listen OnePlus. Look at what the other manufacturers are doing and get it right on the OnePlus 6.

surprising post perhaps dual camera understanding is requiredbefore writting so much about powerful dual camera phone

Reading this was such a waste of time

Perfect summary of whats going on. Only god knows what was going on in OP's marketeers. "Clearer photos" my ***!
I am so much disappoint!
Edit: The sad thing is that I even think (then again, I'm an idiot..) their strategy can make sense. Yes, they could have put ONE sensor in there that yields better results than the current setup. But having TWO cameras is the new trend and, thus, is way easier to market. Even the new Samsung Note will feature two sensors. So OP had to choose between a better camera and less revenue or a worse camera and more revenue.
Unfortunately they picked the latter.

How many threads are going to be create just to talk about camera ?
As already said in others threads, people expected a perfect DSLR with 40Mpx and a perfect night quality image. Come on are you serious ? This is marketing people, wake up, think with your brain sometime please.
I did not even read OP, such a waste of time to see an other person complaining about the camera.
We know what your are going to do next. RMA and send back the phone. Nice, change phone if you are not happy, but stop pollute this forum with one nth useless thread. Thanks.

casual_kikoo said:
How many threads are going to be create just to talk about camera ?
As already said in others threads, people expected a perfect DSLR with 40Mpx and a perfect night quality image. Come on are you serious ? This is marketing people, wake up, think with your brain sometime please.
I did not even read OP, such a waste of time to see an other person complaining about the camera.
We know what your are going to do next. RMA and send back the phone. Nice, change phone if you are not happy, but stop pollute this forum with one nth useless thread. Thanks.
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Ok, creating an other topic was maybe useless but... The fact is that at the moment, the camera is very disappointing, to say the least. Especially when the device was marketed as the new camera standard, "clearer photos" etc.
I think nobody was expecting a DSLR camera, but maybe more than the overly washed, grainy or over saturated and sharpened shots that it actually produces. C'mon, I upgraded from an old Nexus 5 and expected a dramatic improvement in the camera quality. I am delighted to say this is not the case.
The big question now is : will these issues be software fixable ?

DarkAdrien said:
Ok, creating an other topic was maybe useless but... The fact is that at the moment, the camera is very disappointing, to say the least. Especially when the device was marketed as the new camera standard, "clearer photos" etc.
I think nobody was expecting a DSLR camera, but maybe more than the overly washed, grainy or over saturated and sharpened shots that it actually produces. C'mon, I upgraded from an old Nexus 5 and expected a dramatic improvement in the camera quality. I am delighted to say this is not the case.
The big question now is : will these issues be software fixable ?
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If I'm good, each iteration of OnePlus device get a better camera with software update.

You are probably right but there are things you can accept when you pay 300$ that you can not accept anymore when you pay 550$. Rising the price also means raising the expectations.

Please will people stop making random rant posts and freaking out?!
The phone has been released for a week now and isn't even globally available yet.
There's been 3 software updates already to fix issues.
Just wait about a month and then if it's still crap you can complain.

The problem is that in many countries, you can freely return you device within 14 days after you purchased it. So waiting one Month with nothing but hopes and wishes is a costly option.

djsubterrain said:
Please will people stop making random rant posts and freaking out?!
The phone has been released for a week now and isn't even globally available yet.
There's been 3 software updates already to fix issues.
Just wait about a month and then if it's still crap you can complain.
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A crap phone is a crap phone. There's nothing to suggest the 5 is anything but a middle tier phone with lots of problems. No excuses from One Plus.

Batfink33 said:
A crap phone is a crap phone. There's nothing to suggest the 5 is anything but a middle tier phone with lots of problems. No excuses from One Plus.
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Middle tier...with specs rivalling and surpassing the most expensive phones you can buy.
OK.
Go away.

Batfink33 said:
A crap phone is a crap phone. There's nothing to suggest the 5 is anything but a middle tier phone with lots of problems. No excuses from One Plus.
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Why you have to cry in every single thread, over and over again? Return it and buy a better phone.

djsubterrain said:
Middle tier...with specs rivalling and surpassing the most expensive phones you can buy.
OK.
Go away.
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Nonsense. A fast SOC and lots of RAM doesn't make up for fake promises of a great camera and lies about benchmarks, poor design, little features etc. Give OP credit when they deserve it and heat when they don't. The OP5 is a big let down, they need to sort themselves out.

B3501 said:
Nonsense. A fast SOC and lots of RAM doesn't make up for fake promises of a great camera and lies about benchmarks, poor design, little features etc. Give OP credit when they deserve it and heat when they don't. The OP5 is a big let down, they need to sort themselves out.
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It's also a week old, are you telling me no other major phone manufacturer has issues when their phones have just been released? There's been plenty of those issues with Samsung, Apple and others.
Even Apple's own depth effect had to have multiple software updates before it worked properly.

bus_ter said:
We don't use our mobile phones to take photos of trees in the sun (unless you're a phone reviewer). We use our phones to take photos of family, friends, pets, activities, often inside or at night and other low light scenarios and we post them on Facebook and Instagram.
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Don't you? We do; mostly pictures taken outside. I guess you need to get a phone which works for you.

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Please use this one to discuss the camera issues you are having:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/camera-thread-t3624645
thanks
Wolf

Seeking feedback re: camera quality... just how bad IS it?

hi folks,
been excited about this device since it was announced but have been real disappointed by the negative feedback on the camera. still considering the purchase but am worried i'll regret it. i am coming from the z3 (non-compact) so i have difficulty gauging just what people mean when they talk about, in particular, poor low-light performance. just how poor are we talking? like you can't shoot indoors at all or just that photos in dark areas will be grainy? will it be at least as good or better than my z3?
there have been some really helpful posts in this thread and i've read a range of opinions from "it's actually quite good" (see this android central review) to "i am returning this piece of garbage immediately" (various forum posts).
from what i can gather the device is a winner is most other areas (including all the ones that matter to me) but this camera stuff is a real sticking point. i mostly only use it to take pictures of my kids and tbh the z3 does a mostly good enough job so i'll probably be happy with any improvement at all.
thanks for any guidance you can provide, low light samples would be super helpful as well.

I think it takes better pictures than my X Performance, Z3, or Z2 ever did. I haven't noticed any grainy photos. I don't use auto focus a ton but when I've tried it the photos turned out fine.

GSMArena has quite a lot of sample pictures for various scenarios.
It will be a step up from the Z3, especially the speed (I have a kid myself, capturing the split second moment is now possible).
But if you want the absolute best camera on a smartphone, then this is not the phone you are looking for.
Also, from the same review, they have a photo that quite clearly shows the distortion people were complaining about, including me. Note how the building looks warped.
The same distortion is actually present in all photos, but as you can see from the other photos, one would be hard pressed to actually perceive anything strange about it thanks to the way our brains work.
Chances are you'll never notice any distortion for the majority of photos you take, unless you happen to have a grid-like background or object to magnify the effect.

mhaha said:
GSMArena has quite a lot of sample pictures for various scenarios.
It will be a step up from the Z3, especially the speed (I have a kid myself, capturing the split second moment is now possible).
But if you want the absolute best camera on a smartphone, then this is not the phone you are looking for.
Also, from the same review, they have a photo that quite clearly shows the distortion people were complaining about, including me. Note how the building looks warped.
The same distortion is actually present in all photos, but as you can see from the other photos, one would be hard pressed to actually perceive anything strange about it thanks to the way our brains work.
Chances are you'll never notice any distortion for the majority of photos you take, unless you happen to have a grid-like background or object to magnify the effect.
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thanks, that is really great. and yeah wow that distortion example is wild isn't it, makes that building look like some kind of wacky art installation.

Distortion is horrible, but only seen if some photos.
Overall the camer is good, not the best like from note 8, pixel2 or iphone 8 but still ok

profyler said:
Distortion is horrible, but only seen if some photos.
Overall the camer is good, not the best like from note 8, pixel2 or iphone 8 but still ok
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I agree. Overall camera performance is better than in Z3c, especially at low light and in department of focus speed.
But when you take a photo when distortion is visible, it makes you sad But in my case it was ~5% of photos.

Distortion is not really noticeable to me, but Sony's smoothing algorithm is.
Often, lots of detail is lost it parts of the image when viewing at full res.
I'll experiment with lower resolutions to see if it's still as agressive there.
Other than that, the camera is really fast to focus and make shots, and HDR seems to work reasonably well.
Haven't tried manual mode yet.
Super Slo-mo is a very interesting feature to play with.

Motion blur in pictures

Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.

Its not really a fault of the camera or the phone, it is attempting to get a correctly exposed shot with the light available and if there is a lot of movement in poor light the bits that are moving get blurred due to a slow shutter speed.
You might want to try using the colour sensor only although it is well known the camera app is a bit crap, you could try another like Camera Zoom FX etc.

Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.

shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Change your wife and problem solved?

ben_linux said:
Change your wife and problem solved?
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LMAO!

Haha,
Sadly I will still have the challenge with pictures of moving things.

shaunydub said:
Cheers for the reply,
I have opencamera installed but didn't really use it much so I'll give that a test over the next few days.
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Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.

MrBelter said:
Trouble is comparing it with an iPhone isn't going to help either, i think the camera in the Nokia 8 gets a bad rap but clearly it cant compete with an iPhone which are known for having great cameras.
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For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.

But did you try Google Camera on the dev section ? the BSG, Cstark or Arnova one ? There is zero shutter lag like Pixels, and it's very good.
You can't compete with Lumia 950XL though. Still a king after these years and incredible in low light

shaunydub said:
For sure, but I had a lot of phones with camera's over the years and didn't get blur as bad as this guy.
iphone 6 is 3 years old so I would expect it to produce better photo's than that (ignoring the blur factor), when I had my Lumia 950XL my wife was amazed at how good the photo's looked compared to her iphone.
If I can just find a better camera app than the default one it can be ok.
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Age has nothing to do with it though, a good camera is a good camera, my (now little used) Canon 20D is 14 years old and still takes a cracking photo.
The f2 aperture is the weak point on the Nokia 8, even my Moto G5 Plus has an f1.7 aperture and sadly Nokia cant do anything to change that other than force the camera to shoot with a higher ISO and therefore a faster shutter in low light.

Use the google camera app. Turn on "HDR+ Enhanced" and you should not get blurry photo in decent/good light. A bit of delay per shot but you'll get great image.
The phone still gives up in low light, however.

Bit late here, but I have the same issue. I think the camera is ****. Even my old phones (and cheaper phones are significantly better at capturing moving targets). Really disappointed. Got new kitten, 1 in 10 photos is keepable. Even in bright light. It just takes way too long to focus, often missing the moment altogether.

shaunydub said:
Hi,
As a fairly new father I am taking a lot of pictures of my daughter.
In still shots the phone is fine but when she is moving, which can be quite a lot I am getting lot's of pictures of blurry arms and feet.
My wife says my new phone is rubbish and I should return it because of this, compared to her iphone 6 which takes perfect pictures of moving arms and legs with zero blur.
To be honest I never had a phone cause so much blur with the standard automatic mode...before this my P9 took pictures in the same circumstances with zero blurry limbs and my Lumia 950xl was perfect taking pictures of my dog.
Does anyone else have blur with moving people or animals?
Any tips on how I can avoid this problem?
I have turned off HDR and flash to try and reduce the time needed for each photo but I need to take photo's fast some times and don't have time to mess around in the settings.
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Slow/blurry focus is already a common problem on Nokia 8. You can install the Google Camera to resolve the problem. It also comes with some new features (such as motion picture) which is currently and exclusively on Google Pixel 2 camera as well.??
Let's check out the following posts for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/themes/modded-google-camera-hdr-nokia-8-t3713411
Google Camera port download page:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/