[Q] Kit kat update broke Google now hotword detection on moto x - Moto X Q&A

I updated my Moto X to kit kat yesterday and now my hotword detection doesn't work on the home screen or within Google now. I have the nexus 5 home launcher installed and fear it could be part of the issue, but it worked fine in jelly bean so I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Anyone else having this issue?

wilmah1 said:
I updated my Moto X to kit kat yesterday and now my hotword detection doesn't work on the home screen or within Google now. I have the nexus 5 home launcher installed and fear it could be part of the issue, but it worked fine in jelly bean so I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I can safely say it's not the new home launcher. I've been running that for awhile now and both the motorola detection and the google detection work fine (i.e., I can say "okay google now" at any time, or say "okay google" when the device is already woken.)
I haven't done the kit kat upgrade though

wilmah1 said:
I updated my Moto X to kit kat yesterday and now my hotword detection doesn't work on the home screen or within Google now. I have the nexus 5 home launcher installed and fear it could be part of the issue, but it worked fine in jelly bean so I don't know why it wouldn't work here.
Anyone else having this issue?
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If it isn't, language needs to be set to US english.

sarshadd said:
If it isn't, language needs to be set to US english.
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It is set to English and I tried changing it and changing back and had no luck.

wilmah1 said:
It is set to English and I tried changing it and changing back and had no luck.
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I'm having the same problem.
"Ok google now" works as it should.
But when in google now, saying "ok google" does not activate voice control...very strange.
Anyone else having this issue?

(muse)ic said:
I'm having the same problem.
"Ok google now" works as it should.
But when in google now, saying "ok google" does not activate voice control...very strange.
Anyone else having this issue?
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It seems that Moto may have deactivated this on purpose to prevent it from interfering with the Touchless Control feature.

Same thing, it was working shortly after the update I believe.
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Dark9781 said:
It seems that Moto may have deactivated this on purpose to prevent it from interfering with the Touchless Control feature.
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seems unlikely. i can't seem to get mine to work either, even though Google Now settings say to listen for "Google".

Select the Auto-Update tab from the top and choose one of the auto-update options (we recommend leaving it on “over WiFi-only”). After that, scoot over to the All tab and find English (US). You’ll notice it already says “pre-installed”. Don’t listen to it. Select English (US) anyway. From there, jump to the Installed tab and press “English (US)” where you’ll be asked to download the latest version (version 28 at the time of writing). Hit “Download” and the updated version will be downloaded and installed.
After it’s finished downloading, press the home button where you’ll notice “Ok Google” will now be displayed inside the Google Search widget. Simply speak that phrase whenever you’re on your homescreen to perform a Google Search or voice actions. That’s it. Was relatively painless, ri
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Something is definitely broken. The image I included shows Android 4.4 and Android 4.2.2 differences. 4.4 is missing the "Ok" and maybe that is why it doesn't work? It worked fine before and now doesn't. English is my set language and that doesn't fix the problem.
just my 2 cents.

Orsini said:
You guys need to download English language even they said is pretty installed and gonna work.
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this doesn't even sound like english. can you explain?

640k said:
this doesn't even sound like english. can you explain?
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Select the Auto-Update tab from the top and choose one of the auto-update options (we recommend leaving it on “over WiFi-only”). After that, scoot over to the All tab and find English (US). You’ll notice it already says “pre-installed”. Don’t listen to it. Select English (US) anyway. From there, jump to the Installed tab and press “English (US)” where you’ll be asked to download the latest version (version 28 at the time of writing). Hit “Download” and the updated version will be downloaded and installed.
After it’s finished downloading, press the home button where you’ll notice “Ok Google” will now be displayed inside the Google Search widget. Simply speak that phrase whenever you’re on your homescreen to perform a Google Search or voice actions. That’s it. Was relatively painless, right?

Orsini, I just checked and I'm already updated to 28.
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KidCuda said:
Orsini, I just checked and I'm already updated to 28.
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KidCuda,
Orsini has left out some steps. Where is his selecting Auto-Update tab (play store?)? I don't see anything that says "pre-installed". Where are you even looking for 28? I would like to confirm what number I am on.
Thanks.

Even you had 28 Download English language.
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Orsini said:
Even you had 28 Download English language.
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What location are you seeing this in? Can you please give the missing steps to your other post?

rlrhk said:
What location are you seeing this in? Can you please give the missing steps to your other post?
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http://phandroid.com/2013/11/14/how-to-install-google-experience-launcher-with-ok-google-command/

rlrhk said:
KidCuda,
Orsini has left out some steps. Where is his selecting Auto-Update tab (play store?)? I don't see anything that says "pre-installed". Where are you even looking for 28? I would like to confirm what number I am on.
Thanks.
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He's talking about in Google Now, go to the "Manage downloaded languages" section in settings. I tried this (on my Moto X, even though I'm typing this on a Nexus 7) and it didn't work.
My Nexus 7 just updated to KitKat tonight and doesn't have this problem.
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Okay. I was able to update to version 28 and it still does NOT work, but something changed in the settings. See attachment.

I uninstalled the english language pack and reinstalled it to no avail...

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touchless issues

Brand new motox on vzw and the hotword detection and touchless controls don't work the mic on the homescreen is hollowed out and doesn't respond . Phone is brand new and I just updated it last night thinking that would fix it but it didn't still doesn't work . Ive tried changing the country in the settings that doesn't work either K...anyone know how to fix this considering this is the main reason I got it ?
Have you trained it yet? How did that go?
Tbbo514 said:
Brand new motox on vzw and the hotword detection and touchless controls don't work the mic on the homescreen is hollowed out and doesn't respond . Phone is brand new and I just updated it last night thinking that would fix it but it didn't still doesn't work . Ive tried changing the country in the settings that doesn't work either K...anyone know how to fix this considering this is the main reason I got it ?
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You need to turn on google now as well for it to work. and of course update the google apps. hope that fixes your issue!
Solutions Etcetera said:
Have you trained it yet? How did that go?
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Yes it's trained still cannot activate it
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drago10029 said:
You need to turn on google now as well for it to work. and of course update the google apps. hope that fixes your issue!
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I've updated Google apps including the Motorola apps the hotword detection didn't work even when I turned it on first day. I downloaded Google's launcher and the detection works fine but on Motorola's home never works . I let the update come through and now I'm on android 4.4.2 and it's still broken also the launcher doesn't look like the kit Kat launcher it still looks like jelly beans/ics I'm not sure if that's relevant or not also phone is not rooted
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Tbbo514 said:
I've updated Google apps including the Motorola apps the hotword detection didn't work even when I turned it on first day. I downloaded Google's launcher and the detection works fine but on Motorola's home never works . I let the update come through and now I'm on android 4.4.2 and it's still broken also the launcher doesn't look like the kit Kat launcher it still looks like jelly beans/ics I'm not sure if that's relevant or not also phone is not rooted
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My bad, correction it should work without google now activated. I just tested it out. 3 words of advice:
1. Launcher has nothing to do with that bro lol
2. [[USING VOICE COMMANDS]] when voice training, your room needs to be like dead silent, enunciate but talk normally.
3. When voice training comes up, do 2 from arms length and one up close. That gets it for me every time.
***EDIT
just realized you said homescreen was grayed out, you should be using the homescreen button. moto voiceless controls should work with the phone completely locked and asleep.
Let me know how that goes.
Tbbo514 said:
I've updated Google apps including the Motorola apps the hotword detection didn't work even when I turned it on first day. I downloaded Google's launcher and the detection works fine but on Motorola's home never works . I let the update come through and now I'm on android 4.4.2 and it's still broken also the launcher doesn't look like the kit Kat launcher it still looks like jelly beans/ics I'm not sure if that's relevant or not also phone is not rooted
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Did the training again got the green checkmarks again and it still doesn't work . Not on the lock screen or home screen . I wonder has anyone else had this issue with the vzw model ?
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[Q] Disable Moto Voice in favor of Google Now

Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
Tykin said:
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
cortez.i said:
it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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That will disable the voice wake. I'm looking for a way to jump straight into Google Now anytime I say my Moto Voice launch phrase.
OK, yeah that's different. Interpreted that you wanted to just go to Google Now. With my suggestion, saying "OK Google" takes you to Google Now (vs your moto launch phase).
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
cortez.i said:
can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
ZeroAlphawolf said:
Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Thanks! Now I need to figure out if I want to root my phone now or wait for L and Xposed to run on ART.
Lollipop is supposed to be able to do ok google from screen off with phones using the always listening chips. The nexus 6 and 9 are supposed to use it with theirs. I'm still hoping that our moto's well be able to use it as part of stock android so i don't have to use moto voice at all. Only i don't know if they intend to add custom phrase support, which i could stand losing. Though i concur about ART xposed, that i can't wait for.

[Q] Getting "OK Google" to work from any screen?

When I enable the "OK Google" voice command in the settings, there are usually options to enable the command from any screen, however that option is not present on my Z3c. Any ideas on how to get this to work?
Thanks
QUESTIONS DO NOT BELONG HERE.
That being said, what you ask of is there. go to google search settings, click on voice, go to ok google detection. from there, check from any screen box, and it'll have you repeat ok google 3 times to learn your voice. then on, it's from any screen.
Sorry about the question.
As I stated in the post, the option "from any screen" does not appear on my settings.
This is a picture of the screen I come to in the settings.
is it in English?
shipley231 said:
Sorry about the question.
As I stated in the post, the option "from any screen" does not appear on my settings.
This is a picture of the screen I come to in the settings.
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reg-sux said:
is it in English?
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Yes, it is.
Hi
You can try setting your phone language to US English and updating the Google Search app. It may appear then.
Alternatively you can download an app called OpenMic+ which may help...
I have the option on my phone and it works...problem is when you enable it the stock camera app sees it as an app that is using the mic all the time and it shows an error. there is currently no fix
ishaang said:
Hi
You can try setting your phone language to US English and updating the Google Search app. It may appear then.
Alternatively you can download an app called OpenMic+ which may help...
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Turns out the app needed an update, figured the brand new phone would have the latest update!
Thanks
Just to note, even if the application is updated, if it has never been opened, it still wont offer the option to listen from any screen, unless you run the application at least once.

Trying to enable 'OK Google' to always on: feature currently unavailable for this l

I am trying to enable OK google keyword detection to always on, and to use when phone is locked. But both options are greyed out.
My language is set to 'English (US)', and I am using the google now launcher.
Android version 5.0.1.
On Verizon.
Screenshots below.
Any help appreciated.
vikramjatt11 said:
I am trying to enable OK google keyword detection to always on, and to use when phone is locked. But both options are greyed out.
My language is set to 'English (US)', and I am using the google now launcher.
Android version 5.0.1.
On Verizon.
Screenshots below.
Any help appreciated.
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which rom are you using, or maybe even pure aosp? anyways, thats an issue in aosp at the moment.
simms22 said:
which rom are you using, or maybe even pure aosp? anyways, thats an issue in aosp at the moment.
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Pure shamu by error311.
Edit: I guess that is why. Thanks. I found someone tried something in another thread that they claimed works. I'll just wait for it to be fixed.
All you have to do is touch it even though it's greed out it will work touch it then it will ask you to train your voice and it will work..
Enjoy,
vikramjatt11 said:
I am trying to enable OK google keyword detection to always on, and to use when phone is locked. But both options are greyed out.
My language is set to 'English (US)', and I am using the google now launcher.
Android version 5.0.1.
On Verizon.
Screenshots below.
Any help appreciated.
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I assume you have this fixed but i had this problem and this guy helped me out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57930959&postcount=27
Just cleared data on google search/

Google assistant

Anyone notice on their new pixel that the new assistant is not working? The assistant is Still the old one, which you'd need to keep squeezing or repeat the hey google phrase.
What language are you using? It didn't work for me when set to English (UK), but works when set to English(US). It seems it is limited to English(US) at the moment.
Also cannot be used with a GSuite account, has to be a personal Google account.
I've switch to english US and have always used a personal Gmail account. Not sure why it's not working. Might just wait for google to fix the damn thing.
hero4eva said:
I've switch to english US and have always used a personal Gmail account. Not sure why it's not working. Might just wait for google to fix the damn thing.
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Are you using Google beta app? Didn't work for me when I got the phone until I left the beta.
elreydenj said:
Are you using Google beta app? Didn't work for me when I got the phone until I left the beta.
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I'm not using any beta apps. Just reformatted the phone and still same thing, no new assistant. I give up
elreydenj said:
Are you using Google beta app? Didn't work for me when I got the phone until I left the beta.
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Thanks that worked for me
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Where are you from? It is U.S. exclusive. Not just the language setting English(US). Don't know if you knew that. I'm from germany and I won't get it until they open it for us...
I got my phone yesterday (in the UK) and once I set it the assistant to us US English it installed an update and just works using the new assistant style, so it's not U.S. exclusive in that sense. Thankfully they've also added UK English voices for the assistant to use when talking back (when set to U.S.)
sycx2 said:
Where are you from? It is U.S. exclusive. Not just the language setting English(US). Don't know if you knew that. I'm from germany and I won't get it until they open it for us...
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I'm from Australia, but has set the language not english US, still no luck
After giving up a few times, I notice that I was missing the google home app. After downloading the home app, in settings there were an option under continue conversation where you can enable or disable "shared devices". I disable that option and, What do you know, after squeezing the phone for the assistant, it automatically update itself to the new assistant. Hope this help others too.
set to english US and it updated and works
in settings > assistant > languages
not language and region.
Any way to get continuous conversation to work without the gestures?
I don't use it
I just got off chat with Google rep and they told me it's a known issue that they are trying to fix.
troymz1 said:
I just got off chat with Google rep and they told me it's a known issue that they are trying to fix.
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What's a known issue?
That the language has to be set to US?
virtyx said:
What's a known issue?
That the language has to be set to US?
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Mine is set to us and doesn't work.
TheUndertaker21 said:
Any way to get continuous conversation to work without the gestures?
I don't use it
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Go to settings, search "continued", and toggle the option. Works with squeeze, "Hey, Google", or tapping the assistant icon on the search widget.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Go to settings, search "continued", and toggle the option. Works with squeeze, "Hey, Google", or tapping the assistant icon on the search widget.
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Only works with gestures.
I have 3 nav enable. I don't do Google gestures or any gesture for that matter
TheUndertaker21 said:
Only works with gestures.
I have 3 nav enable. I don't do Google gestures or any gesture for that matter
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Oh! My bad. Didn't realize that was necessary. I read gestures and was thinking Motion Sense gestures. [emoji2359]
I know Android is all about options and all and sucks that it's not an option for the button based navigation but why not use gestures? It's very fluid and quick.
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Sorry to hijack the thread but is anyone else having issues with the squeeze for assistant feature? Mine seems very temperamental.
If I leave my phone locked for a bit, then lift it, it unlocks and the squeeze is not working. I then have to tap on the power button to lock it again, unlock and it starts working again.

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