Screen changing brightness when not on Auto and no power saving... - Asus Transformer TF701

I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.

dbozam said:
I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.
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I don't have the flickering when not on auto and lowest setting.
However some apps can dimm the screen while loading.
On the TF700 the stock browser did that when loading a page but on the TF701 the brightness doesn't do that.

You have an ambient light sensor built into the device. It adjusts the brightness based on the lighting in your environment. It can't be turned off either.
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xRevilatioNx said:
You have an ambient light sensor built into the device. It adjusts the brightness based on the lighting in your environment. It can't be turned off either.
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It can't be turned off? So when you turn on automatic brightness it just changes the brightness more drastically? This doesn't sound right.
Based on the other poster's response, I think I need to return this unit. The screen dimming/brightening happens to often and randomly to be part of my apps and I even noticed, in some apps, that just touching the screen causes a brightness change.
Even if this is by design, it is far too distracting.

dbozam said:
It can't be turned off? So when you turn on automatic brightness it just changes the brightness more drastically? This doesn't sound right.
Based on the other poster's response, I think I need to return this unit. The screen dimming/brightening happens to often and randomly to be part of my apps and I even noticed, in some apps, that just touching the screen causes a brightness change.
Even if this is by design, it is far too distracting.
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Read it and weep my friend. Proof is in the pudding..
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dbozam said:
I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.
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My 701 is doing this as well. Turned off auto brightness, turned off power saver, rebooted. When it comes back up the device acts like auto brightness is on, with screen brightness fluctuaating randomly. Turning power saver on and off again seems to solve it, but that behavior is very annoying - it's why I turn auto brightness off in the first place.
US SKU running 4.3 installed via ota, no root or unlock or anything - straight stock. Its also my second device, my original had a bad cable and wouldn't charge. Serial number ends in 072259.
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Aaroneious said:
My 701 is doing this as well. Turned off auto brightness, turned off power saver, rebooted. When it comes back up the device acts like auto brightness is on, with screen brightness fluctuaating randomly. Turning power saver on and off again seems to solve it, but that behavior is very annoying - it's why I turn auto brightness off in the first place.
US SKU running 4.3 installed via ota, no root or unlock or anything - straight stock. Its also my second device, my original had a bad cable and wouldn't charge. Serial number ends in 072259.
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I also tried turning power saver mode on and off and for me it seemed to improve the situation but not eliminate it. I am going to return the tablet and wait for the nexus 10.

Ugh, mine has been doing this, too. Can't believe there isn't a setting somewhere...

Mine is doing the same thing... glad that it's not just me, but this flickering is very annoying

Driving me nuts
I'm having the same problem and it's driving me nuts!
I'm quite convinced it's a software "feature" but currently there seems to be no way to turn it off?
It's one of those "Adjust brightness of the screen based on content" or "Changing LCD refresh rate and colors for power saving" but sadly it does it the wrong way around (This has been going on for a while now, manufacturers don't really get it). When there is a lot of bright content the brightness will rise and when there is mostly a dark screen it will fall.
Of course, this should happen exactly the other way around. When there is a lot of bright/white on my screen it should lower and when there is mostly black it should become brighter thus giving you more contrast but keeping the overall lux that comes off your screen the same...... My Intel graphics notebook does this too and it's very irritating. There they do it by manipulating the LCD screen and lowering the refresh rate and other tricks to save battery. First thing I turned off.
However way it goes though, you should be able to turn it off!

Quindor said:
I'm having the same problem and it's driving me nuts!
I'm quite convinced it's a software "feature" but currently there seems to be no way to turn it off?
It's one of those "Adjust brightness of the screen based on content" or "Changing LCD refresh rate and colors for power saving" but sadly it does it the wrong way around (This has been going on for a while now, manufacturers don't really get it). When there is a lot of bright content the brightness will rise and when there is mostly a dark screen it will fall.
Of course, this should happen exactly the other way around. When there is a lot of bright/white on my screen it should lower and when there is mostly black it should become brighter thus giving you more contrast but keeping the overall lux that comes off your screen the same...... My Intel graphics notebook does this too and it's very irritating. There they do it by manipulating the LCD screen and lowering the refresh rate and other tricks to save battery. First thing I turned off.
However way it goes though, you should be able to turn it off!
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I'm having the same issue. I think it's the smart dimmer option Asus have used before but they forgot to include it in the Asus customised options. I'll have a dig through the ROM to see where it is stored.

I'm having this problem as well.
I have my brightness set to about 80%, Auto-Brightness Off, Power Save Off.
It is very annoying when reading magazines that have a lot of white background. My screen will be stable for minutes then, often on a touch, will change the screen brightness, seemingly by 5-20%.
I was just getting ready to return it, and thought I would check here to see of anyone else has this problem. Has any actually called Asus with this complaint? I would be interested to know if they see this as a hardware defect, software bug, or working as designed.
PS - I just placed a technical support request about this on the Asus Website. Here is my problem description:
Even with automatic brightness & power saving turned off, the brightness of the screen will change over time, often seemingly in response to a touch. (Reading Mode is Off as well.)
The period between changes can vary from several minutes to 30 seconds. It happens both while docked and undocked. It happens with apps and just at the launcher.
The amount of brightness change is 5-20% and it will often seem to step through some values before it stops at a particular one.
Given how fantastic looking the screen is, this unwanted fluctuation is particularly annoying.
I also own a TF201 and have not experienced this problem on that product.
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sschlosnagle said:
I'm having this problem as well.
I have my brightness set to about 80%, Auto-Brightness Off, Power Save Off.
It is very annoying when reading magazines that have a lot of white background. My screen will be stable for minutes then, often on a touch, will change the screen brightness, seemingly by 5-20%.
I was just getting ready to return it, and thought I would check here to see of anyone else has this problem. Has any actually called Asus with this complaint? I would be interested to know if they see this as a hardware defect, software bug, or working as designed.
PS - I just placed a technical support request about this on the Asus Website. Here is my problem description:
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I have this issue too but not a real biggie as the connection problems between dock and tablet.

Same problem!
dbozam said:
I just got my Asus tf701t and, while first using it, the home and back buttons did not work in portrait mode and the screen would change brightness at varying time intervals (usually a few seconds) when the brightness was set very low. an update to 4.3 cured the back and home button issue but the screen still can't stay at one brightness level when I set it to very dim. It's not changing dramatically, more like a few percent, but enough to be distracting.
The odd part is that the dimming/brightening issue almost seems application dependent. It occurs far more often in the home screen or skout but almost never when playing shadowgun dead zone or when using naked browser.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
The only posts about flickering on other people's tf701t seem to be related to power saving and I need to know if this needs to be exchanged or if this is a common problem.
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Thank you very much for creating this topic, because I was worried for my tablet too!
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Snah001 said:
I have this issue too but not a real biggie as the connection problems between dock and tablet.
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I heared a lot of people say I about this, but happily I seem to don't have it or I don't detect it. What is this dock problem about?

I suspect this is the same "smart dimming" feature that the 700 had.

improvius said:
I suspect this is the same "smart dimming" feature that the 700 had.
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Yep me too and as soon as I root I'm going to see if the same fix will turn it off

There seems to be no way to disable this. Some believe it's the light sensor, but I've taped over mine with black electrical tape and tested and I don't see any difference in the behavior. Check our my Youtube video if you are a user who doesn't see the issue (look for threads in this same XDA forum).
I've finally been able to get someone at Asus to look into this and it's been sent to TW for review. I haven't heard anything back yet. I strongly recommend that other people who are annoyed by this (I find it tremendously distracting) to search on "asus escalation" which will bring up a special mailbox. Here is the link (although I do not know if the link will work for you). This should get looked at by someone with at least some ability beyond reading a script. If enough people do this, I think that they will fix it. Since you can temporarily override it by toggling smart saver on/off, it has to be fixable by software.
http://www.service.asus.com/#!escalation-mailbox/c1scx

derekk1 said:
There seems to be no way to disable this. Some believe it's the light sensor, but I've taped over mine with black electrical tape and tested and I don't see any difference in the behavior. Check our my Youtube video if you are a user who doesn't see the issue (look for threads in this same XDA forum).
I've finally been able to get someone at Asus to look into this and it's been sent to TW for review. I haven't heard anything back yet. I strongly recommend that other people who are annoyed by this (I find it tremendously distracting) to search on "asus escalation" which will bring up a special mailbox. Here is the link (although I do not know if the link will work for you). This should get looked at by someone with at least some ability beyond reading a script. If enough people do this, I think that they will fix it. Since you can temporarily override it by toggling smart saver on/off, it has to be fixable by software.
http://www.service.asus.com/#!escalation-mailbox/c1scx
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I returned my tf701, waited for cyber Monday, and bought the Samsung note 2014 since the nexus 10 2 is so elusive. I put in an escalation request anyway and included a link to this thread in my complaint.

improvius said:
I suspect this is the same "smart dimming" feature that the 700 had.
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I also saw this issue on my TF701. This seems a "feature" of Tegra SoC

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Screen Alignment

Hey guys. By now, I'm sure most of you are probably familiar with the screen alignment issue (where, sometimes when you go to click on something, it clicks something above or below and is about 1/3 of an inch off).
Well, I've noticed something on my device and was wondering if anybody else has had the same experience. If I have the screen brightness all the way down, I can use the screen for quite some time before this happens. Then, I just hit the power button, put it to sleep, and then wake it back up and the problems corrected. What's weird is, if I have the brightness all the way up (like when I'm outside on a sunny day), it takes far less time for the misalignment issue to show it's ugly face.
Basically, what this says to me is that it might be related to a heat issue from the screen itself. Just wondering what everybody else has noticed.
Mi|enko said:
Hey guys. By now, I'm sure most of you are probably familiar with the screen alignment issue (where, sometimes when you go to click on something, it clicks something above or below and is about 1/3 of an inch off).
Well, I've noticed something on my device and was wondering if anybody else has had the same experience. If I have the screen brightness all the way down, I can use the screen for quite some time before this happens. Then, I just hit the power button, put it to sleep, and then wake it back up and the problems corrected. What's weird is, if I have the brightness all the way up (like when I'm outside on a sunny day), it takes far less time for the misalignment issue to show it's ugly face.
Basically, what this says to me is that it might be related to a heat issue from the screen itself. Just wondering what everybody else has noticed.
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Yes I have notice it too with the same setting but didn't think much of it and just put it to sleep and woke it up and worked after that.
dont know if its a heat issue, my phone is always on 0% brightness and it still randomly happens.

[Q] Backlight keeps fading and coming back??

I bought a Tab P1010 a fortnight ago. Generally been happy with it, but I've noticed something thats begining to annoy.
Just prior to going into standby, the backlight level drops slightly before going off. That seems to be the normal way things work.
However, on mine, the level goes to that stage randomly. Touching the screen may bring it back up after 5 seconds or so, but not straight away. And it happens even when I'm scrolling the screen and there has been activity going on.
Any idea?
Or have I got a return on my hands?
do you have "auto" set on your brightness?
I find when i have brightness set to auto it can go duller or brighter seemingly at random (particularly irritating if im reading)
i mostly manage my brightness level myself
Dont know if this is related to your issue ... good luck
dingoo12 said:
do you have "auto" set on your brightness?
I find when i have brightness set to auto it can go duller or brighter seemingly at random (particularly irritating if im reading)
i mostly manage my brightness level myself
Dont know if this is related to your issue ... good luck
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lol I feel such a fool!
I was fully aware of the auto back light setting and had already set it to the unchecked.
However at the weekend, I did a full factory reset. All settings had gone. However, it does show up how useless that setting is as the changes seem very random!
Cheers for the reminder.

[Q] Brightness oddity, please help.

I've noticed that while viewing something my phone sometimes changes the brightness, not drastically, but noticeable still, especially if the background is white. My auto brightness is off and I'm running stock and not rooted. I was wondering if it was something with my phone or is it normal?
Is your sleep timer set to Auto Sleep? It dims the phone automatically if you're not moving it enough. Try changing it to a set timer and see if it still does it.
DiZzyBonne said:
Is your sleep timer set to Auto Sleep? It dims the phone automatically if you're not moving it enough. Try changing it to a set timer and see if it still does it.
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Just tried it at your suggestion. I tried it for 45 seconds then a minute it still happens. The best way I can describe it is if you use blinkfeed or any rss reader that has a light theme or even a web site like this. If you see a picture, then scroll away from it like you're reading the rest of the article, it'll dim a little bit.
As mentioned above I believe this may be the HTC Ones auto screen tone adjusting similar to how you put your home HDTV color temps on Dynamic, Standard, Movie, Sports etc. The HTC One like the Samsung S3 both utilize a battery saving technology used to automatically adjust the tone of webpages and other pure white screens by conserving battery power. I would try viewing the same screen with the power save features on and off to see if there's any noticeable difference. I don't believe there is a specific setting for this technology on the settings panel in the One like there is on the S3.
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Hmm, I can't get this to reproduce. The only thing I can think of is the stock web browser has a setting to dim webpages that are still loading, but I don't think that helps you any. Sorry .
Skyymiles
I've also tried just tried what you suggested, it still happens, which is strange.
DiZzyBonne
I tried that too, tested it with Naked Browser and Opera Mini.
Still, thank you both for trying to help, I appricate it. I'm still within the couple of days to return, so I'm just going to go and see if I can get a swap for another HTC One.
Do you have power save mode on?
x714x said:
Do you have power save mode on?
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No, not originally. I did turn it on, tested, then off again to see if that did anything but to no effect. Still, this won't push my away from the phone. It's a beautiful piece, I just hope the swap will fix that.

Has anybody seen light bleed like this?

Looks as if I'm going to have to join the return game on this device. I've been a very happy TF700 owner on CROMi-X for the last year and still had that WOW effect when I started playing with this tablet.
Until it got dark.... I mean - the attached picture is with the tablet in sleep mode!!!!! That's gotta suck the battery dry like nothing.....
Opened a ticket with Asus for what it's worth...
I'm going to update to 4.3 manually, but don't expect that'll do much.
Does anybody have something similar?
Edit: After about an hour of reading the screen dimmed and had dark shadows on both sides. I flashed the 4.3 update manually since the System Update wouldn't - now everything seems to be fine.
Light bleed gone when in sleep mode and no shadows either... ?????????
Weird, glad you got it sorted out.
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Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
sbdags said:
Wow - good outcome - never seen anything like that - keep your eyes on it obviously
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Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
berndblb said:
Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Smart saving has nothing to do with smart dimming unfortunately. You can only turn smart dimming off if you are rooted. I'd take it back and get a replacement as what you are seeing is not normal.
berndblb said:
Unfortunately it's not resolved to the point that I feel confident to unlock.
I still have have weird and uneven dimming of the screen. Sometimes just part of the screen dims and shows a dark, uneven shadow across it (in reading mode). What I don't understand is, taking a screen shot in that situation shows nothing of the shadow....??
What I consistently see is when the screen times out, it dims just before it turns off, but only on part of the screen (more or less the left half, but fading out from left to right).
Smart Saving is off.. Can't think of anything else to try...
I'd hate to return it, but I think I'll have to - this does not inspire confidence....
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Never seen this on any tablet.
To me it seems that some parts of the Led backlight are not working correct or totally not.
Better try to get it swapped or Rma'd ASAP.
R.I.P
I was filling out the Amazon return form and picked it up 'cause I got a notification about new mail - and that's when the digitizer gave up completely.
I was able to wipe my data by hooking it up to the TV and got it to reset with a lot of huntin' and pecking.
A replacement is on it's way. You gotta love Amazon :cyclops:

MeMo Pad ME572c fluctuating brightness

Just picked up an ME572c and I'm very impressed for the price. However I have noticed the screen brightness levels keep fluctuating as if the light sensor is constantly detecting different light levels.
Has anyone else experienced this?
madgibbon said:
Just picked up an ME572c and I'm very impressed for the price. However I have noticed the screen brightness levels keep fluctuating as if the light sensor is constantly detecting different light levels.
Has anyone else experienced this?
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Hi,
i notice this too, but that can be related to the power saving mode. Plz turn it off and check the settings in detail. Maybe that helps.
Further inside the developer options there is another option to configure the auto brightness.
You can change the behaviour from dynamic to immediately or slow mode and active an onscreen lux, gain and brightness value display.
Btw i am not satisfied with the auto control, as for my taste the brightness is still too low in a less lighted room. Sensor is reporting 0 lux already with a brightness of 14 which would be ok for a really dark room & night but not at daytime.
What is your experience?
I tried playing with power saving mode and the auto brightness controls in developer options. While I could reduce the fluctuations, I could eliminate them completely. Unfortunately I found it too distracting and returned the device earlier today. It's a shame as everything else was quite impressive for the money.
I also found the fluctuations annoying, my solution was to turn the auto-brightness off. Honestly I dislike auto-brightness on any device, it was also one of the first things I turned off on my laptop.
I am using Lux app now and raised minimum brightness at 0 lux. Thats ok for me now.
tycoo said:
Hi,
i notice this too, but that can be related to the power saving mode. Plz turn it off and check the settings in detail. Maybe that helps.
Further inside the developer options there is another option to configure the auto brightness.
You can change the behaviour from dynamic to immediately or slow mode and active an onscreen lux, gain and brightness value display.
Btw i am not satisfied with the auto control, as for my taste the brightness is still too low in a less lighted room. Sensor is reporting 0 lux already with a brightness of 14 which would be ok for a really dark room & night but not at daytime.
What is your experience?
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Just bumping this to confirm this works and so that others can see. I used Developer options as well (before I found this post) and noticed the instant setting works best.
One more setting to also double check... Make sure that in developer options under auto brightness that you disable allow change gain...
Even with everything disabled it appears as if something still is changing the display. I particularly see it with something like a reddit browser when I'm viewing pictures. You click the pic, it loads and displays and then 1-2 seconds later the display adjusts based upon what is being displayed. Depending upon the picture it can be pretty annoying. I may have to root and start poking around to find out what is causing this.
with the lollipop update this issue is fixed for me.
Is lollipop really solve the problem?
muiriddin said:
with the lollipop update this issue is fixed for me.
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Hello!
Im on lollipop, but the problem you had, still occur at me.
Did you noticed this problem, since you on lollipop?
I have the same problem. When i read, or browsing, the brightness changes in 2-3 steps.

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