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What happened to all the activity on this board it seems to have waned. How can we spark interest back into our forums? Any ideas? Perhaps "what is the best use of the s pen that you have found?" or "what have you used your NFC for" perhaps "is there a way to have the spen recognize the soft keys"
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The TMo note wasn't sold for long enough to get a large community. The ATT note forum is active and for the items that you mention It is the same thing.
That's too bad..... Thank you for the response
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I'm here but notice not a lot of posting going on. I'm beginning to think TMO is not going to issue JB for this phone.
I haven't heard anything on the att side as well there was a rumor of it landing in June but we will see......
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There was a thread just started in the ATT forum regarding a new update to 4.1.2.
But of course, if you can run a custom ROM, cm 10.1 m3 release is a very stable 4.2.2, and has many extra tweaks.
AT&T Notes get theirs tomorrow. Hopefully we get ours too/soon, maybe like the S2 did.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/02/att-galaxy-note-jellybean/
... Alternately some one can make a kang for our T879's
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It is all ready out for the att version so one can only assume that the Tmobile version will be really soon
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It is all ready out for the att version so one can only assume that the Tmobile version will be really soon
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That's making a big assumption. T-Mobile may not even be thinking about JB for our phones. After all, they didn't sell very many of them to begin with. They may be focusing on getting updates out to their more popular phones (GSIII and Note II).
I would love to see JB from T-Mo, but i'm not holding my breath. Plus, with CM10 and Carbon ROM already at 4.2.2, it's not like we don't have decent JB options.
I would love to try a touchwiz based jb ROM though. But that means I would have to go back to stock unless ptmr wants to update his Jedi leader ROM if we even get jb... I don't see that happening though
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S suite / touch wiz and wifi calling is what I miss on CM.
The closest thing I can suggest would be to flash the at&t version but use the "blaze" modem. If you do go this route make sure that the one that you flash is prerooted that way you can remove the at&t bloatware. Now you will loose the WiFi calling until someone can go through both two versions to find where the "WiFi calling" is located
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Actually there are about 20k of this model in the wild. T Mobile made a deal with Samsung in order to get a jump on the Galaxy 4 they literally bought enough of this model to fill a warehouse. T Mobile then turned around and contracted their sales out to places like Costco and Wal-Mart where they are still being sold at a discounted price.
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I wouldn't mind flashing the AT&T JB if it will fly - just to see what the feel is like.
I am quite dependent on WIFI calling, but I can always reflash the original and reload my apps I guess.
if anyone has already done this: if there are kinks, could you please post back?
If it does one out I would like to see what is different because from what I understand the Canada version has the pop out browser which the att version doesn't meanwhile both are missing the nav panel and multi Window
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I wouldn't mind flashing the AT&T JB if it will fly - just to see what the feel is like.
I am quite dependent on WIFI calling, but I can always reflash the original and reload my apps I guess.
if anyone has already done this: if there are kinks, could you please post back?
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I have a t879 and a i717. AT&T JB will not boot on the t879 even with different radios even tried a NANDROID Backup from my i171
Huh...... How odd.....
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S suite / touch wiz and wifi calling is what I miss on CM.
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Wifi Calling is the only one I miss with CM based AvatarROM. The S Suite are just something there that I used 10% of the time. And I hated touchwiz. It makes my phone sllloooowwww and buggy. I'm loving my ROM now its fast, although not as smooth but still very stable.
I agree with that statement and I have wondered is there a way to compare the touchwiz from the att room and the touchwiz from tmobile to find the difference? I would be more than happy to wade through the code myself is someone could point me into the proper direction.....
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just reading around the web, the JB release I think is inevitable. i717, s3 and s2 are out, the international version N7000 is out in some parts of the world [not all], so, its just t-mo that is slow at this point. could be any day, any hour.
then we'll all figure out what we hate about it and resume complaining....
Good point......
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I'm frankly on the fence here - reading through the AT&T version group's collective notes - I dunno what the gain is with JB.
that its new? there are a number of folks that have had troubles [this is not unusual - check google for any sort of notes on 'upgrade to jelly bean'] - shorter battery life, jerky performance, hangs, lags.
I am VERY happy with the stock/rooted/debloated performance I'm getting.
we just picked up a GS3. I was set to be dazzled by its performance etc and spent hours getting it nuked to the bone, then installing, rooting, debloating. To me, its not worth the extra money compared to what I paid for the note 1. there is neglible performance difference [i'm not gaming, so take that into consideration]. side by side, any fool on earth would pick the Note's display, not just because its bigger but it looks startlingly gorgeous next to the GS3. The GS3 had a bunch of wifi connectivity issues. I don't know if I have them all squashed yet or not - jury is still out.
there's more "interference ware" on the GS3 - things that are scanning in the background to tell you all sorts of dangers are lurking. some I could uninstall safely, some not. the Note, the way I have it config'd, is 'quiet' by comparison.
battery life looks like the Note wins so far. will know better once the GS3 is finalized and real use occurs a lot.
if it were strictly my call, I'd trade the 3 for another note 1.
jellybeans or not.... i prefer beefsteak.
What about beefsteak flavored jellybeans?
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Maybe
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That's making a big assumption. T-Mobile may not even be thinking about JB for our phones. After all, they didn't sell very many of them to begin with. They may be focusing on getting updates out to their more popular phones (GSIII and Note II).
I would love to see JB from T-Mo, but i'm not holding my breath. Plus, with CM10 and Carbon ROM already at 4.2.2, it's not like we don't have decent JB options.
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Thats true but we will always have problems until they release the official JB, we all suffer from the random reboots followed by the blue screen when running these roms....Im using rooted stock, that way I know everything works instead of finding out when I need to use a feature.
I have been watching for a solid port to Verizon wireless, and saddened by the lack of love it's getting. What are some of the issues that are preventing developers from porting, or just building for vzw? Rumrunners s off works great, so I'm really confused. Is it not enough people with the needed hardware? Is there some other technical issue? I know viper is working on it, but there hasn't been any updates from any devs. We have like 12 sense and 7 aosp builds, and most are stock or have issues. I am happy to test whenever that is the only issue also.
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I have the $150 promo code and am thinking of getting a MOTO X as a secondary phone. However, am I under the impression the DEV community is not jumping all over this phone based on the amount of threads/posts?
I also own a Nexus 5 which of course has tons of ongoing developmen but it has its quirks and issues, despite its low price point now being matched by MOTO X.
I would hate to buy the MOTO X as I notice very little development going on for a phone which has now been out for @ 3 months. I don't want VZW as I already have a primary VZW Dev Edition Galaxy S4 (whose development is now starting to thin thanks to Sammie locking it up for those not owning a dev edition).
Was thinking the GSM unlocked version was the way to go since I have a Straight Talk SIM.
Now that the MOTO X is more affordable with perhaps more owners, will dev pick up? Comments?
Custom roms that are cm based lose the Motorola fun stuff like active notification and touch less control. Also, most are finding you can customize almost anything cm like with xposed. Also we can't make custom kernels yet.... So there is not much need or demand for custom roms.
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Custom roms that are cm based lose the Motorola fun stuff like active notification and touch less control. Also, most are finding you can customize almost anything cm like with xposed. Also we can't make custom kernels yet.... So there is not much need or demand for custom roms.
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Thanks for the info! Not really a CM guy..more AOSP. But I do like exposed framework when needed. So it sounds like this phone is worth it right out of the box, i.e., fun factor. I would probably appreciate the option of not spending hours flashing, etc like I do on my N5/GS4.
I have a couple nandroid backups.... And mess around with xposed. Can do a lot with it. If there were a bunch of roms, I don't think I'd be flashing them anyway. Don't see the need. I think that's a common feeling.... So demand is very low for them.
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down the road when we stop getting official Android updates.... That's when the custom roms will come in handy.
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Now that the MOTO X is more affordable with perhaps more owners, will dev pick up? Comments?
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Devs will fix things, but right now, there's not much to fix, software-wise. If Motorola/Verizon stop updating the phone (I guess we don't have 4.2.2 yet, but sounds like it will be coming soon), then maybe it will pick up. I have the Vz Dev so I unlocked the bootloader (because it wipes everything on the phone, so I wanted to get that out of the way) and if I didn't need AdAway, WiFi tethering, and TiBu (I was shocked how many apps the non-root backup apps such as Helium can't do), I'd still be unrooted.
The stock android is great. Motorola just added a couple of useful apps the rest is AOSP. Xposed works great. This phone is a daily driver not a secondary phone trust me you won't regret it Android at its best.
Bit the bullet.. Ordered it and in process. Airjacket case was 50% off as well and I got $10 Google play credit and another 50gb of Google drive storage.
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Does that come with every Moto X purchase? I have the Today show coupon for 150 off
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Does that come with every Moto X purchase? I have the Today show coupon for 150 off
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That is the code i used... you enter the code and it deducts the discounts for phone and accessories and upon process of the order and confirmation'a splash page appears with the Google credit and drive offer... Keep your eyes open as I almost missed it and closed the web page. you also get a confirmation email.
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That is the code i used... you enter the code and it deducts the discounts for phone and accessories and upon process of the order and confirmation'a splash page appears with the Google credit and drive offer... Keep your eyes open as I almost missed it and closed the web page. you also get a confirmation email.
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Very nice, I'm just not sure if it's worth switching from the gs4 to Moto X.. Although I hate touchwiz
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TBayTom said:
Very nice, I'm just not sure if it's worth switching from the gs4 to Moto X.. Although I hate touchwiz
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Probably isn't. Two different phones. Good for a second/third or gift though.
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Well sitting around today I figured I would e-mail samsung about the locked bootloader and how that would eventually kill off sales for those in the know on Modding, development and wanting ultimate control of there device. So I would suggest anyone who cares to should do the same. I think if we show them the love we have for Samsung devices as a community maybe they will rethink their strategy and start giving their fans what they want, and that is options, unlimited options to flash and mod the way we want. I mean heck isn't that what google released android for was to be open sourced. So please take time to send samsung an e-mail and voice your support to stop locking bootloaders and unlock our locked ones, cause we all know it's easier for them to do it and just pass it on to us than for a dev to do it and get nothing but thanks when I reality samsung should send him a check, but we know that won't happen.
UPDATE: Link to online petition below please sign and tell your friends. Also petition is linked to c.e.o. Randall Stephenson @ [email protected] so he will know of every signature we gain. So come on and let's try to get our device the freedom it and we deserve.
https://www.change.org/petitions/at...ootloaders-on-mobile-phones?just_created=true
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Samsung does not insist on locking the bootloaders. The carriers do. That's why both AT&T and Verizon bootloaders are lock, while Sprint and Tmobile and not. AT&T and Verizon's locked bootloaders have not dropped Samsung sales below that rival company, who leaves their bootloaders to be unlocked by the customer on that special webstite, whose sales of their top selling phone are fading based on what I am reading.
Did not know that. you would think samsung would be like "hey att don't do that people want access not restrictions" but like you said if the device is a top seller I guess on their end there is no reason to conform to what smaller groups of people like us think the state of the phone upon release should be. Well I'll send att an e-mail to might not do any good but I would like to try. Again if you support this send them(samsung, att, verizon, etc.) an e-mail and voice your response. Tell them we want freedom not a locked down p.o.s.
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Come on folks let's make this happen. Petition linked also to Google and samsung. STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND SIGN THIS THING. MAYBE IF IF WE STIR UP THE POT WE CAN GET SOME RESULTS. PLEASE DON'T LET MY EFFORTS BE WAISTED FOR NOTHING WE CAN DO THIS.
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Come on folks let's make this happen. Petition linked also to Google and samsung. STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND SIGN THIS THING. MAYBE IF IF WE STIR UP THE POT WE CAN GET SOME RESULTS. PLEASE DON'T LET MY EFFORTS BE WAISTED FOR NOTHING WE CAN DO THIS.
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You must be new to this forum. They already have a petition for this, but maybe not to the CEO. It has not accomplished anything.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
It received less than 500 signatures before there was any root, then once we finally got root, pretty much all support just stopped.
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You must be new to this forum. They already have a petition for this, but maybe not to the CEO. It's been going nowhere.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
It received less than 500 signatures before there was any root, then once we finally got root, pretty much all support just stopped.
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Thanks for swift kick in the nuts pal. Lol. New to s5 forum not xda. Well I'm trying spent all day on this so please at least take five minutes to sign it. In the time it takes to post here that's another signature we could have. Even if nothing happens at least pledge to switch to a less b.s. carrier. If anything declining profit margins should have some effect, at least you'd think.
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I personally received a cease and desist letter for harassing the ceo's secretary about the locked bootloader on my LG g2. The bottom line is 5% or less modify their phones.1% will actually complain about it and I would bet less than 20% of that 1 percent would actually write a letter. Att doesn't care about the opinions of .20% of its customer base. The only way to get this to work is to unite across all devices with locked bootloader's on at&t.
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I personally received a cease and desist letter for harassing the ceo's secretary about the locked bootloader on my LG g2. The bottom line is 5% or less modify their phones.1% will actually complain about it and I would bet less than 20% of that 1 percent would actually write a letter. Att doesn't care about the opinions of .20% of its customer base. The only way to get this to work is to unite across all devices with locked bootloader's on at&t.
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So fight back. Sim unlock, switch carriers and stick it to the man. That's the only way I can think of getting our point across, falling short of waiting out your contract or paying ETF's(if u have good credit, I dont.lol). If I have to starting tomorrow I will reach out to other att customers with other models with Locked bootloaders. This needs to happen regardless what majority we are, we spent damn hard earned money for open source OS not a closed one and why should it be left up to someone here on xda or another dev site to unlock this mess.
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I do stick it to the man, the man keeps giving me free stuff. The last phone I bought was the LG g2. After a few weeks I had a bad pixel so they gave me a brand new note 3. A month after that I talked them into a free galaxy gear. When the boredom kicked in I got "the man" to take the note 3 back and send me a good flex. I sold the watch. In June I once again told them I wasn't happy with the flex so they told me to pick any phone I wanted, I chose this phone. Now it is aggravating and I probably wasted hours of my time harassing them but it pays off.
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I do stick it to the man, the man keeps giving me free stuff. The last phone I bought was the LG g2. After a few weeks I had a bad pixel so they gave me a brand new note 3. A month after that I talked them into a free galaxy gear. When the boredom kicked in I got "the man" to take the note 3 back and send me a good flex. I sold the watch. In June I once again told them I wasn't happy with the flex so they told me to pick any phone I wanted, I chose this phone. Now it is aggravating and I probably wasted hours of my time harassing them but it pays off.
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Love it. Take them for all you can cause they sure love to do it to us. Toss your John Hancock on it if you don't mind, I'm not going to admit defeat yet. Tomorrow I will look up att models with Locked bootloaders and try to reach out to their community for signatures.
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Who cares at this point. We have root
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Who cares at this point. We have root
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OK smart ass. Get us a custom kernel.
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I signed it. Putting in my 2 cents worth; I was the 6th person to sign. And I don't even have an S5 yet, planning on getting one soon.
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Who cares at this point. We have root
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Hey, that was mean, but not enough people are going to care. A lot of people are satisfied just being able to run rooted apps.
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I signed it. Putting in my 2 cents worth; I was the 6th person to sign. And I don't even have an S5 yet, planning on getting one soon.
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Thank you for your support
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Hey, that was mean, but not enough people are going to care. A lot of people are satisfied just being able to run rooted apps.
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Gonna try. I want locked bootloaders gone for good if you can get one carrier to do it maybe it will be the norm, which I believe is what google intended.
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How you feel toward att? Me.........
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E-mail I just got from samsung tech support
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This is all on the AT&T end of things. If they could come to an agreement to have something similar to what HTC has where you go to their website and agree to void your warranty then the site unlocks it that would be great. We need to put pressure on AT&T for something like that as it would not cause them to lose money or their government contracts. But like someone stated earlier our demographic is so small that they don't care. Normal people just care that their phones work and can take good pictures. I can tell you that back when the Motorola atrix came out there was a petition to also unlock the bootloader it got tons of signatures and even the attention of Motorola and AT&T enough so that they issued a statement that they would provide a solution to the locked bootloader and guess what, the solution never came but we did get their attention so it is possible.
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This is all on the AT&T end of things. If they could come to an agreement to have something similar to what HTC has where you go to their website and agree to void your warranty then the site unlocks it that would be great. We need to put pressure on AT&T for something like that as it would not cause them to lose money or their government contracts. But like someone stated earlier our demographic is so small that they don't care. Normal people just care that their phones work and can take good pictures. I can tell you that back when the Motorola atrix came out there was a petition to also unlock the bootloader it got tons of signatures and even the attention of Motorola and AT&T enough so that they issued a statement that they would provide a solution to the locked bootloader and guess what, the solution never came but we did get their attention so it is possible.
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Yea I'm kinda feeling the blues I come from a galaxy S4G from t-mobile they jacked up my bill so I jacked there phone. I quit paying for it ( the contract that is, bad credit here. can't wait for that financial system to crash) and did a network unlock and threw it on sprint prepaid. After that I learned what little I know about root, roms, and flashing. I've made a few themes for the S4G with u.o.t. but that's neither here nor there.
Now I move on and wouldn't you know the second smart phone I have ever had is locked down like a terrorist in Gitmo (I mean sheesh even they get light 1 hour a day).
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