Glass Home on Gear with null ROM - Samsung Galaxy Gear

Hey folks,
I thought it would be interesting to see whether the Glass Home launcher and its companion apps would work on the Gear - FYI the APKs I'm playing with are the XE7 ones at zhuowei's github site, although I note that Google have now posted the XE11 image at developers.google.com/glass/tools-downloads/system
I was pleasantly surprised to find that the launcher loaded up, recognised my "ok glass" voice command, and managed to go off and do the right thing when I asked it to "google how tall is the eiffel tower?"
However it seems to be unhappy about a few things (lots of FCs) - in particular the lack of WiFi on the Gear, believing that the device is offline even when it's actually tethered to my phone via Bluetooth, and the camera didn't work for me.
Anyone else got "Glass on Gear" experiences to share?
Cheers,
Martin

Good idea. Will be interesting to find out what needs to done
I do however feel my watch is a lot more useful than Glass (apart from lack of gps/wifi)

Provide some links I want to see this launcher etc.

Sorry, I'm a newbie so my ability to post links is somewhat limited. Let's see if this works... github.com/zhuowei/Xenologer

I think it's going to be a great way of getting a forward look at what to expect with Glass - and the Nexus watch And heck, we may well have the proper Glass SDK before Samsung release one for the Gear...
The UI is reasonably navigable using voice and swiping the touch screen. The Glass fonts work well on the small screen size, unlike say stock Android apps running under Nova or the Google Experience Launcher. Glass Home doesn't know about your non-Glass apps, though, which is understandable if a little disappointing.

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I think it's going to be a great way of getting a forward look at what to expect with Glass - and the Nexus watch And heck, we may well have the proper Glass SDK before Samsung release one for the Gear...
The UI is reasonably navigable using voice and swiping the touch screen. The Glass fonts work well on the small screen size, unlike say stock Android apps running under Nova or the Google Experience Launcher. Glass Home doesn't know about your non-Glass apps, though, which is understandable if a little disappointing.
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Quite interesting.. Im interested mainly in the contacts app.. Going to give it a whirl.
EDIT: Sadly didnt work as I hoped, no launcher icon.. when I manually run the intent just crashes.. BOO !
The launcher on the otherhand could be interesting.,,

Contact handling on glass is weird. You need contacts in your gmail account, then need to add individual contact to glass manually via app/website

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Contact handling on glass is weird. You need contacts in your gmail account, then need to add individual contact to glass manually via app/website
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Oh.. Yikes.
Staying away from that !

I'm working on poking through the Glass launcher and companion files to see if I can find anything. I tried to change the DPI so all of the text fits on the display because it cuts off most of the text, but it doesn't seem to cooperate.

Video demo of Glass on Gear
And here's a nice little video (1 minute) that I made demonstrating the Glass launcher on the Gear:
You can also read a bit more about my experiences hacking around on the Galaxy Gear on my blog at martinh dot net.
Happy hacking!

That is awesome.
martin_hamilton said:
And here's a nice little video (1 minute) that I made demonstrating the Glass launcher on the Gear:
You can also read a bit more about my experiences hacking around on the Galaxy Gear on my blog at martinh dot net.
Happy hacking!
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263 views 2 likes? How is this not blowing up?

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263 views 2 likes? How is this not blowing up?
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The idea is excellent, although there's other factors to consider.. tethering always being active is going to be a battery drainer, along with the launcher constantly listening for commands..

Interesting thread... Looking forward to more updates on this... If I can get Google Now to work on this device paired without rooting the phone, Google Glass sounds pretty darn cool
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It's also a bit clunky in that you have to swipe down to go back to the "ok glass" prompt, unless there is a voice shortcut that I've missed. It would be great to go totally handsfree with this, but shaking your wrist doesn't have an analogous effect to nodding your head when wearing Glass.
Oh, and the Bluetooth tethering is a bit flaky and tends to come unstuck after you have done three or four searches - going to look into the automatic reconnection thread when I get a few spare cycles

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Interesting thread... Looking forward to more updates on this... If I can get Google Now to work on this device paired without rooting the phone, Google Glass sounds pretty darn cool
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You can run the Google Experience Launcher from Kit-Kat, which will give you the "leftmost home screen is Google Now" feature. If you choose US language and download the offline speech recognition pack then you should find that the mic is permanently active too

Does that still allow me to get notifications pushed to the watch?
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I am going to be testing glass with a bare bones rom now. Hopefully it will be nice
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Cant get it to work at all
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Me neither
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Nice work!
The only way to go back using glass is to swipe down
Sounds like motion sensors are handled differently on each device (possibly Samsung propriety on the gear?)
What settings are shown in the settings screen? Is it only 'google' phrase that works? I think take picture and record are default on glass without need for app. Contact related stuff requires adding manually via app

Related

[Q] Do you realy use your S-Pen?

I have my Galaxy Note now for a couple of months, and I realy like it. Never want to go back to a smaller phone again.
But using it for while now I only pull out the S-Pen when showing of my phone, telling everyone that it's a great feature to have.
So, maybe you guys want to share how you use your S-Pen in daily use?
I mostly use it at home, i guess about 70% of the time. Why don't you use it?
on the go i hardly use it...
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I mostly use it at home, i guess about 70% of the time. Why don't you use it?
on the go i hardly use it...
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And what do you do when you are using it at home?
Actually everything. Browsing, texting... I like the feel of it in my hand and when its sliding over the screen. long time ago i owned a PDA and now i noticed that i missed a stylus.
Maybe you just give it a try and get used to it - if u want to.
I used it couple of times.. When I actually wanted to write something on a paper but did not find it. Then I realized s-pen importance.
It can be very useful while travelling (when you have no piece of paper and want to write/remember something).
Sketching with Sketchbook Mobile
Games like World of Goo
At lunch times or at meetings when there is no paper or pen available to illustrate an idea or to help explain something
As way to talk/pass messages to friends in concerts or nightclubs. It's simpler than physical keyboard and quicker than onscreen one. Especially when a bit tipsy
So yeah, I use it few times a day and its really handy
I hate finger prints on my screen so i use it all the time other than when gaming.
I find it keeps the screen clean when im cooking if im using it for recipes, i also had a PDA back in the day an missed using a stylis.
I can't belive how well it fits in the phone body even though the s-pen so big, the only thing i dont like about it is the name. lol
I do not sketch, but I use it for drawing technical diagrams instead of doing the same on paper. I also use a flowchart type drawing app, and the pen is much better with that. That is for work.
I rarely write text, mainly because my writing is so awful even I cannot easily read it (I should have been a doctor). I do sometimes make quick notes with it rather than typing, and it is good for adding a note to the calendar instead of dicking with the entry for an event. I find that much quicker, like "drinks 4pm" instead of a couple of dozen clicks.
At home, I often fiddle with my launcher screen (ssLauncher - you can really fine-tune where everything is to 5 pixels), and the pen makes that much easier. I then typically just keep using the pen anyway, because it seems to glide over the glass more easily than my finder. I have very oily skin, and the peen keeps those prints off the screen.
I use it very often for shopping lists, and for other situations where I'd use a pen and paper. Last week for example I was out with one of my gfs friends, and she asked me. To remind my gf to give her a call about something. Perfect for the spen.
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hardly ever used it, only for doodling, i dont see the need for the pen for my uses of the phone
The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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I couldnt agree more we are on same page
I use the pen all the time. I much prefer it to using fingers unless I'm on the move or writing messages. Then I use dual thumbs.
I actually feel like I get more precision with the s-pen, and I like not getting finger prints all over the screen.
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I couldnt agree more we are on same page
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Indeed you are. Page 2 of this thread
jorundtm said:
The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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same here...
I don't use the S Pen much as it is too thin for my large hands however I use my Wacom pen regularly with it to take hand written notes as it is like using a real pen. Cannot work without it now.
As a side note for those of you with messy handwriting, try an app in the market called 7Notes, you will seriously be surprised with its accuracy in recognising your handwriting and converting it to digital text. Once you use it, you will find there's no going back!!! Currently its only in Beta, cannot wait for the full version.
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I don't use the S Pen much as it is too thin for my large hands however I use my Wacom pen regularly with it to take hand written notes as it is like using a real pen. Cannot work without it now.
As a side note for those of you with messy handwriting, try an app in the market called 7Notes, you will seriously be surprised with its accuracy in recognising your handwriting and converting it to digital text. Once you use it, you will find there's no going back!!! Currently its only in Beta, cannot wait for the full version.
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Wow, this Is amazing. I've never used a handwriting tool that's actually worked before. my handwriting Is awful, and this works perfectly. I used it to write this post!
Edit: I've been playing with it for 5 minutes and I've gone back to swiftkey x. It works great, it's just that even the best handwriting recognition is still a bit awkward. Especially when it comes to editing your posts.
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i love being able to annotate screenshots, and do so several times per day. this is the main feature that tipped the scales for me away from getting a Nexus.
otherwise, my handwriting is recognized quite well by the software, but i hardly ever bother with that
I don't use it much for writing, I find typing is far quicker and easier. My had writing isn't that bad on paper, but it looks like a child's scribblings on the Note.
I do use it for drawing though, which I'm getting quite good at. And often just for normal usage instead of my finger... no real reason for that, I just sometimes notice myself doing it.
I use it mainly for taking screenshots and to give my fingers a break. Installed this app called Freenote today which seems to be better than S Memo feature-wise. Will be using S Pen more with it from now on.
Also the pen is mightier than the finger when playing games like Fruit ninja.
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Indeed you are. Page 2 of this thread
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LOL
jellevanb said:
I have my Galaxy Note now for a couple of months, and I realy like it. Never want to go back to a smaller phone again.
But using it for while now I only pull out the S-Pen when showing of my phone, telling everyone that it's a great feature to have.
So, maybe you guys want to share how you use your S-Pen in daily use?
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S-Pen its a great feature,yes
Well am using Ultimate_N7000_V5.1 Jellybean rom and i have all the airview festures like galaxy note!
Btw. try the app from Play Store "Jotter for galaxy note" u have to pay for it but u can just crack it

[Q] Air view on HTC One

I was reading that the Galaxy uses its Infrared technology for its Air View application, does anyone know if we would be able to utilize Air View on the HTC One or if there is an similar application?
derrick8 said:
I was reading that the Galaxy uses its Infrared technology for its Air View application, does anyone know if we would be able to utilize Air View on the HTC One or if there is an similar application?
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What does it do?
It has another sensor up front for that purpose I believe
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What does it do?
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It uses sort of a hands free function: you can use your hand as a wave gesture to swipe pages horizontal/vertically, it has a feature that if you look away from a video it will automatically pause, etc.
Sounds like a useless gimmick. My Evo 3D had an overly sensitive screen, didn't always have to touch the screen, just be close, and it detected touch. It was pretty annoying.
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Sounds like a useless gimmick. My Evo 3D had an overly sensitive screen, didn't always have to touch the screen, just be close, and it detected touch. It was pretty annoying.
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Really, I didnt get the Evo 3D so never had the option of that software, man these commercials really make certain apps look brillant
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Really, I didnt get the Evo 3D so never had the option of that software, man these commercials really make certain apps look brillant
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Lol it was more of a flaw... It was never intended to be like that but it would randomly register touches from your finger before you touched the screen.
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It uses sort of a hands free function: you can use your hand as a wave gesture to swipe pages horizontal/vertically, it has a feature that if you look away from a video it will automatically pause, etc.
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If it did you wouldn't want it. The accuracy required to make these gestures reliable is way beyond the technology the S4 has in it, which is why reviewers say it's a gimmick. It either triggers when you don't want it, or doesn't when you do. You'd need something like a Kinect strapped to the top of your phone to really pull that off. The battery drain alone would be devastating.
Add in it likely won't function on any ported ROM or new versions of android. It will be very similar to the 3D where the drivers and other needed stuff won't be available to make it work. One reason I avoided Samsung.
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the S4 has a specific sensor just to the right of the earpiece speaker for the air gestures. its not as accurate as they make it seem just like the eye tracking isnt very good either. like previously stated its a gimmick. your average consumer is WOWED by stupid crap like that. i felt like an idiot swiping my hand in front of the phone and when using eye scrolling you have to physically tilt your head up and down. all the phone is doing is tracking the movement of your head and using your eyes as a focal point to base amount of movement off of. not to mention you cant be more than a foot or two from the sensor. if you wear glasses like me its really a pain. i guess the reflection in the lenses of the glasses makes it react funny. ive only played with the s4 for a couple days when ive been at my store but all in all im not impressed. im wondering if it will gradually learn your personal body movements and become more accurate. it seems like they took an S3 made the viewing area slightly bigger, new camera, and stupid gesture sensor. if it worked as well as Tony Starks stuff it might be worth playing with lol. even then though its not practical its just something that looks neat when you can get it to work. you can also use Svoice from the lock screen so say you name your phone then hold home key say name so svoice will launch then you say name again to start a command. the ability to launch from lock screen makes me wonder if it will have security issues like the S3 did. i also feel like me having to address the device twice in a row is dumb. i should say "S4 call ...." or "S4 launch ...." not say "s4" wait for svoice "S4 call...." or "S4" wait a few secs "S4 launch...." again i felt like an idiot standing there making swipes and repeatedly saying "S4..." thats just what i named the one at our store. i like google now bc i launch it then say "google" it beeps i say "search target.com for..." and it goes. i wish it worked better as a launcher for apps or taking appointments, sending emails, texts, ect.. i will say svoice has that going for it.
in the end im still holding out for black 64gb HTC One. im getting ready to make a sacrifice to cellphone gods if i dont hear something official soon.
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i wish it worked better as a launcher for apps or taking appointments, sending emails, texts, ect.. i will say svoice has that going for it.
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Google Now can do all of those things.
Seems like more of a headache than it's worth trying to get it on the HTC One.

Remote for Note camera

Anyone know of an app that lets the gear work as a remote button to take a picture with your note camera? I believe the sony smartwatch has this feature...i think this would be a nice feature, as you can be in each picture you take and decide when the shutter goes off with a simple tap on the gear screen...
I had that on my Note-2 with Sony Watch.
I don't know of anything for Note-3 and Gear. However, the Note-3 by itself does allow for voice triggering of the camera.
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I had that on my Note-2 with Sony Watch.
I don't know of anything for Note-3 and Gear. However, the Note-3 by itself does allow for voice triggering of the camera.
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I know you can trigger it by voice, but how cool would it be to see your note camera lens on the gear to see what picture you're taking...and once you're in the picture just tap on the screen to take the picture...
Agreed.
You have identified what could be a great app for the Gear.
I hope developers start releasing Apps for the Gear. It is disappointing that no new apps have shown on the Gear / Samsung Apps store.
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Agreed.
You have identified what could be a great app for the Gear.
I hope developers start releasing Apps for the Gear. It is disappointing that no new apps have shown on the Gear / Samsung Apps store.
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How disappointing the thing has only been out a couple of weeks. . Come on guys give people a chance to breath. . As far as I know Samsung had bit even released the sdk yet. . After the conference and release of the sdk I imagine we will see some things. .
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note 2 for sale
Yep, I'm sure it'll come in time: See either camera on either device
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This device was released very quickly in order to beat the others to the punch. Therefore, it is not refined yet. Apple will release theirs when it is consumer ready and say they are the first. People will believe it too! Not a hater. Every company claims they have the best in the world.
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I liked how my HTC One would allow pics to be taken with my bluetooth ear piece. It was like having a remote control to the camera...pretty neat
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They have this for the pebble. Why not Gear?
Try Camera Remote (Free or Pro): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.busywww.cameraremotepro
It's been a year. I'm looking for the reverse. So I can take a picture on my gear from my phone. Yak now spy cam type of stuff my gears rooted with the null custom Rom. Only one I found little disappointed in the high end developer's. But never the less I atleast know how to change stuff on a Rom nowadays. I was thinking of installing a network camera then taught it needs wifi to work anyways anyone think of an apk nth at will do it ")
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It's been a year. I'm looking for the reverse. So I can take a picture on my gear from my phone. Yak now spy cam type of stuff my gears rooted with the null custom Rom. Only one I found little disappointed in the high end developer's. But never the less I atleast know how to change stuff on a Rom nowadays. I was thinking of installing a network camera then taught it needs wifi to work anyways anyone think of an apk nth at will do it ")
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I was wondering the same
Wouldn't camera remote work both ways via Bluetooth? I will give it a try when I get a chance and report back if no one does by then
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Nexus 5/Kit Kat disappointments

Coming from the Nexus 4, which I loved and Jelly Bean, I just received my Nexus 5 yesterday and have some disappointments. Let me know if you guys agree and if I'm overlooking anything and can fix.
1 FIXED - Ok, Google sucks at making home screen launchers, apparently. I have to use an aftermarket app for my home screen) I LOVE Google Now. I used it quite a bit on my Nexus 4 by holding the home button and swiping up. Now they made it so Google Now is locked on the left side. WTF? I loved having my "home" screen in the middle, with two screens on the left and two on the right. I had a Trip It widget and Keep widget on the left, each on their own screen. I had some other often used apps on the right and my Calendar widget each on their own on the right. No screen was more than two swipes away. Now I have to swipe 4 screens to the right to get to my last one. That sucks. I can turn Google Now off to get my screens back, but then I don't have Google Now at all. This sucks, Google. What are you thinking?
2) I thought it made total sense to have the Play Store link right above the apps in the app drawer. When someone would ask, "do you have XXXX app?" I'd look and if I didn't, I could touch right there to enter the Play Store and download. Now, I have to scroll to find the Play Store app icon. Or put it on one of my screens. This seems like they're going backward here. Why remove that? To make it prettier? Aesthetics over functionality.
3 FIXED!) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
4) Speaking of rearranged keyboard layouts, why change it up? I was pretty used to my Jelly Bean keyboard. Now they rearranged the exclamation point to the other side. And maybe others. I can't recall exactly until I start texting and hit a wrong key, pressing something which used to be another symbol. I'll eventually get used to that, but why change it? It was fine as it was.
5) HUGE icons. Why? To look my iPhone(ish)? Jelly Bean had 5 rows of 5. Now we get huge icons and 5 rows of 4. Not a huge deal, but if you have a bunch of apps, it takes longer to scroll through them all and you can't fit as many of your most used on one screen.
6) I love the home screen rotate on my Nexus 7. Google never thought to add this to the Nexus 4. And now it's not on the Nexus 5 either. I've used an app called "Rotate" to perform this and loved it, but now that Kit Kat extends the background to show behind the toolbars (which I love the look of, by the way), when I use "Rotate" to flip the home screen when I hold the phone horizontally, that black bar shows on the right. Again, not a huge problem here and maybe Rotate will update to a Kit Kat compatible version, but why doesn't Google add this functionality out of the box for its Nexus phones when they do it for the Nexus 7?
7) The notification sounds seem even quieter than the Nexus 4, which wasn't the loudest ever. I always turn vibrate on text OFF so when I'm texting back and forth, it's not unnecessarily wasting battery. But in doing so, I could most times hear my Nexus 4 chime when in my pocket. Not with the 5. I find myself pulling it out of my pocket every 15 mins to see if I missed any calls, emails or texts. I guess I'll have to turn on the notification vibration and sacrifice battery life, but that's lame.
If I'm overlooking anything which fixes any of these, please advise!
Oh well.
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I have similar disappointments. Mainly the lack of the store in the top of the app drawer.
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3) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
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The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
It seems like people are just trying to find things to complain about now.
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That's what I was hoping I did by accident, but I can't see where I would have. In settings > language & input > google keyboard settings, I have the
"voice input key" checked. I assumed that's what I need. I unchecked it, looked and the mic wasn't there. I re-checked it, looked and the mic isn't there. What am I overlooking?
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The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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jodvova said:
The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing
I seriously don't want to man. I loved the Nexus 4 and was SO excited with this. But when you're used to things and they change for the worse (my opinion, things that are USEFUL to me), it's more than annoying, it's a real issue. 1, 2, 3 and 7 are all big deals to me. 1 - It makes the phone less simple. Most actions needed to get to what I use. 2 - same as 1, more steps needed to get to the Play Store. 3 - hopefully I'm overlooking something, but speaking my texts to my phone saved me A LOT of texting time. 7 - a ****ty speaker means I can't hear maps directions and have to look down at my phone more. That's not something I'm just trying to find an issue with, it's a real issue.
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Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
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Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing
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torranceeric said:
Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...
Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.
I don't use Samsung products because I hate Touch Wiz and all the other bloatware on it. Yeah, I know it can be unlocked and modded, but I don't get into all of that. I came from an EVO 4G and liked it a lot, but once I got my Nexus 4, I could never go back to a phone with HTC Sense. The speaker was far better on the EVO though than the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5, to me, seems even quieter.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...
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Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
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I kinda do agree with you on 1). I felt uncomfortable when first started to use Nexus 5 because I had a similar screens setup to yours on S4.
But I've changed my habits pretty quickly. Although I'm only using Calendar widget that occupies whole screen and one more screen (apart from home) for apps.
Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!
Yep. It's going backward in features. That was useful as hell. If you never used it, ok, but give me something to make things easier, I get used to it and dig it. Take it away and I'm annoyed. Why take it away? It reminds me of the "new" Google Maps. They took away a few features that I LOVED.
I'm tied into Google. I use a lot of their offerings. But I'm not going to blindly defend everything they throw out, I'm going to honestly say what I like and dislike.
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Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.
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Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!
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This. FFS stop complaining. Before long people are gonna start saying you're apple fan boys posting to start drama.
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Can I have your Nexus 5 then?
Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
[email protected] said:
Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else.
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torranceeric said:
Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
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I'm actually considering going back to my Nexus 4 and selling this. Obviously, I won't be jumping to Kit Kat when it's available on the N4.
But this is why I post - maybe there are fixes.
And guys, aren't these forums about helping? No, I don't use Apple products. Nothing against 'em, but I'm tied into Google and don't care to switch. I just loved most everything about my Nexus 4 and was hoping to love the 5 even more.
M4dRefluX said:
Can I have your Nexus 5 then?
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[Q] what do you think is after pebble steel?

I know it's a little too soon, but what do you think it's after the pebble steel? Will it be the Pebble 3? When do you think will it be announced?
This is one of my first time posting on this forum , please be nice.
Whatever it is, orders will be accepted at least three months before it is released....
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Pebble Wear?
Pebble aluminium with boom sound
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I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.
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I'm excited about the Android Wear devices because of the Google Now integration. I've always thought the mic and speaker on the smartwatch would be an important feature - not for speakerphone conversations, but as a good supplemental control system for the times when fiddling with the watch with your other hands is inconvenient. Pair it with always listening voice control of Google Now and you've opened up a world of convenience and utility.
I hope Pebble will consider that, because I'm testing a Gear 2 Neo and the mic and speaker is game changing. Even though w/ Samsung, you're only given control of S-Voice instead of Google Now, there's still a lot you can accomplish with it. It would be cool if a dev could break that open so we could choose which one. I'm at the point where any future smartwatches I choose, will be required to have that kind of feature.
If all Pebble did on the next HW version was add always-on health monitoring (steps & heart rate monitor) and mic w/ speaker I'd be happy.
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Yes that will be great! Maybe also include wireless charging like the Qualcomm Toq.
I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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I really hope Pebble will stick to what they are doing now. I like them over Android wear because of:
1. Screen is always on. I would hate having a watch that had to be turned on.
2. There are still country's that doesn't have voice recognition from Google. Including Denmark where I live. I frequently use English voice recognition for my phone, but it is impossible to get it to recognize danish names etc. So I would prefer no voice.
That being said, a higher resolution would be great, and a more stable connection would be awesome.
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Agreed on point 1. I'm testing the Neo and it is the single most annoying thing with this watch. Any watch that can't reliably activate the screen to the point I have to reach over with my other hand is a fail. It is no longer convenient - I need the info to be immediately visible when I glance down for it to be useful like on my Pebble and Metawatch. Even the Gear 2 Neo is a half second slow to wake up, so it doesn't feel as nice to use as as the Pebble. I am not one to be impressed by the color touch screen of the Gears. It's form over function.
On point 2 - I really feel for you that it is not a reliable way to interact for you. As an English speaker, I cannot do justice on describing how convenient the always on voice commands are when they work - and we're coming upon an age where more often than not, it is reliable and accurate. To extend that to the watch so that the watch on your wrist is the control mechanism in scenarios where your hands are busy otherwise, it's a breakthrough! I hope the voice control is made better for your use someday very soon so you can also experience the convenience I've been enjoying.
I don't care for the round shape of the Moto 360, though. I would like a "screen shape" so I can achieve the density of information I require on certain watchfaces - I don't know if I'll be able to get that out of a round screen.
Like I said, I LOVE the way my Pebble has been able to give me such real features and uses, but due to what I expect a major shift in how I want to use a smartwatch after testing one with the mic and speaker, those are absolute requirements going forward for me. If they don't add that voice control capability, I'll have to eliminate their offerings from my future selections.
I see your point, and would probably love it too, if voice recognition was more useful to me. But as long as it isn't, voice recognition isn't a priority for me.
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My guess is that a future Pebble would have the following:
1) Once again the charging port/cable will be drastically altered from the previous versions. (making it not backwards compatible)
2) The overall shell of the unit is bulkier.
3) If the technology exists, they might have a color screen (e-ink/paper of course).
4) The stock software will allow users more open slots to install/remove watch faces/apps/games.
Adding anything else would drastically lower the battery's performance and be very unnecessary. Adding Android as the base software would really make this watch a nightmare to use. The battery wouldn't last as long, the watch would be heavier, and it would get uncomfortably warm. Adding stuff like a speaker wouldn't give this watch its waterproof ability.
The way Pebble is, its perfect in every aspect. Granted you're still stuck with some watch faces, but physically, its perfect. Waterproof, dust-proof, drop-proof, long-lasting, light, watch-bands are replaceable, and its relatively thin.
I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...
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I just got my new silver pebble. It is very beautiful and first of all is a watch and not a complex device. My only problem till now it is that does not support greek language and the most letters showing as boxes. I hope a new firmware fix this...
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try pebblebits
Yes, pebblebits working just fine, no more squares...
I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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I recently got the Pebble. I use it for Fitness. I use it for Music control. And notifications. I have say I am impressed. The connection issue is improving for me. The screen functional but for sure not beautiful. I hope at some point for future devices the engineers figure out how to have nice looking screens with good battery life. And someway of making the watch useful when the phone is not right there. We may be a few generations away though.
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Maybe they can use Qualcomm's Mirasol display.
Yes, higher res, always-on screen is my biggest desire for a new pebble. Ideally color, and I think mirasol would be a great option.
Keep the buttons; I absolutely do not want a touch screen. And better built in apps would be nice: timer / stop watch / single shot alarms, "nag" notifications that buzz every 5 minutes until dismissed.
Voice input to Google now would be nice but not that important to me. My phone does that already.
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I would be curious to know if it is possible for them to come out with an Android Wear watch running on the E-Ink display. Kinda taking the best of both worlds. I think that the development community has been great for Pebble so far but I am pretty sure Android Wear will be catching up really quick to surpass it. But one of the features that I love about my Pebble is that the battery life is great and always on. So if there is a way it would be a neat idea to kinda bridge the gap instead of trying to compete. They would also be offering something that any of the Android Wear devices we have seen so far. Just a thought.

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