Google Now - Nexus 5 General

Forgive me if this has been discussed but I have not seen any serious discussion about it. Many reviews of the Nexus 5 mention inconsistent battery life. In my humble opinion most of these are due to Google Now. I think the idea is fantastic and it is amazing at figuring out what you are doing and where you are going. I firmly believe in a few more development cycles it will become a major part of many people's lives. However if you analyze it with a good battery monitor you will find that it sometimes hammers the data connection and more importantly wakes up the phone almost continuously. Other times it is very parsimonious in its use of wakelocks or the data connection. I am certain Google is working on improving this but I absolutely believe that if one wishes to have guaranteed all day battery life the only way to ensure this is to disable Google Now.
I am curious if others have had or similar experience or wish to violently disagree with me. I actually wish someone like Anandtech would do an objective analysis of this. Some of my conclusions come from hard data from GSAM battery monitor but other observations are far more anecdotal.

Agreed, many of googles own apps and services are terrible on battery life. Even worse then google now is google maps. It runs continuously in the background even if you try and kill it.

jlevy73 said:
Agreed, many of googles own apps and services are terrible on battery life. Even worse then google now is google maps. It runs continuously in the background even if you try and kill it.
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That's why you can root and remove it (maps) from /system and then install it from the playstore as a normal app, and freeze it with greenify
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[Q] What to do Against battery drain?

I now have one week to the Nexus One bought secondhand. It suits me perfectly stand alone I have a little trouble with the battery life of the phone. Morning when the phone is 100% and I come out of school (14:30 hours) the battery is still around 20%. I find this a bit short. Ok, I'll use him at school (bit Internet, twitter refreshes every 9 minutes)
There is an automatic task killer, and that helps a bit but I think there are about 80% after 8 hours battery life is a bit much. Me internet is also constantly and I really like to keep.
The battery is probably not because I've got 2 batteries and they both give the same result.
Anyone have any idea what I can do?
I've been a bit inet searched but not really found anything. I did see somewhere a separate battery behind the phone, but I'm not waiting because that makes him a bit heavier and uglier.
10% per hour is pretty poor battery life. Are you running stock Android? 3rd party firmwares can give you much better battery life (the latest versions of CyanogenMod are using less than 1% per hour when fully idle).
But there are things you can check. Have you looked in Settings -> About phone -> Battery usage? If you are using Gingerbread and you look at the graph, if there is a solid line (or mostly solid) next to the "awake" portion, it means that your phone isn't properly entering its low powered state. Download spare parts from the market and check out partial wake usage under the battery history section of that app.
Please post your screen on time value from the battery menu so we can see how long your screen is on.
I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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FLAC Vest said:
I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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While it is true that battery life would improve if Background Data was disabled (or limited via a program like Juice Defender), it doesn't take into account his actual problem. Unless it is a ton of apps constantly downloading that is keeping his battery usage in the toilet, this will only yield a slight improvement. I believe the cause is is an app (or apps) that prevent his phone from entering the low powered sleep state.
I don't know what stock Android gets from completely idle use (haven't run it since July last year), but a basic CyanogenMod install would sip between 1-2% per hour with the latest stable and the latest nightlies, some are reporting 1% every 2-3 hours when the phone is left alone (due to a fix that lets the microphones go into a deep sleep state).
Twitter refreshing every 9 minutes can not be helping, that said I doubt that's your entire issue but reducing the refresh rate should help quite a bit.
If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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The battery app in my sig is the only one that reads the chip inside your battery to tell if it's legit or not, what the battery age is, etc. Needs root to work though.
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If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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You can also get Battery Left from the Marketplace and when it gets calibrated it gives you a time until death number and some other features.
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Start by getting rid of the task killer.
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Battery problems being caused by..?

Google Plus?!!? Picked up my N4 over the weekend but have been massively underwhelmed by the battery life, coming from an S3, with a similar rated battery and all that extra bloatware, its hard to see how the N4 fares so much worse. Anyway, Ive been poring over the battery stats and plus kept coming high up the list as a high consumer. Disabling G+ has made a MASSIVE difference for me. YMMV but would be interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences, or tips on battery?
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Google Plus?!!? Picked up my N4 over the weekend but have been massively underwhelmed by the battery life, coming from an S3, with a similar rated battery and all that extra bloatware, its hard to see how the N4 fares so much worse. Anyway, Ive been poring over the battery stats and plus kept coming high up the list as a high consumer. Disabling G+ has made a MASSIVE difference for me. YMMV but would be interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences, or tips on battery?
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I turn off Auto sync and haptic feedback.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I turn off Auto sync and haptic feedback.
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My battery life is not great, either and seems so effing stupid to buy this wonderful phone for all its great features then have to turn down the brightness and disable Google Now and all sorts of other stuff just to be able to get through a day of use. It's like buying a supercar and having to drive it in valet mode all the time.
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I turn off Auto sync and haptic feedback.
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I doubt, don't quote me on this, that haptic feedback will make a noticeable difference
Google now is the problem if you ask me - it's constantly using GPS which kills battery life. Shame cause google now is cool. I've turned my GPS off and will see how it affects thigns (I suspect I'll see a huge increase in battery life)
Actually haptic feedback can be draining depending on your settings. I tested this on my last device.
Just turn all this crap off. I use a widget that shows the weather, clock and has switches. I turn off auto sync mostly, etc.
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We have too many battery threads as it is. Please use one of those
The great battery impression thread
Battery Life As Mediocre as Reviews Say? Bad
..among others
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Impressive battery life

Guys is your battery life like mine? I'm impressed
Please note I disabled nfc and location services.
that doesn't look very good. your screen only use 23%. you're barely using the phone.
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that doesn't look very good. your screen only use 23%. you're barely using the phone.
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I got 2 hours of screen... I've sync active on gmail, twitter, facebook and other apps. In general I can handle 4/4.5 hours of screen. I couldn't with my previous phone (galaxy s3)
Its fine on WiFi. Mobile data destroys battery though.
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jaju123 said:
Its fine on WiFi. Mobile data destroys battery though.
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Next time I'll try disabilng wifi
anyway I noticed a big improvement in battery life disabling location services. I got less than 1% per hour in stand-by.
j0sh0 said:
Next time I'll try disabilng wifi
anyway I noticed a big improvement in battery life disabling location services. I got less than 1% per hour in stand-by.
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Must admit I found a huge leap in battery life by disabling location services.
For instance Facebook app instantly tries to find a GPS signal even if it's disabled in the apps settings. GPS just gets overly used in my opinion by a lot of apps.
I feel I lose too much functionality by disabling GPS with things such as Google Now so I keep mine on.
Still I find on the whole the Nexus 4 battery life is at least on par with the iPhone 5 in terms of my average daily activity.
you may also enable developer options then disable the animations ^_^
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One of many things that the Facebook app does poorly. Why does it want my location when I open the app. At least 50% of the time, I'm only looking at my news feed. If I want to post my location or check in, look for the location at that point. At the very least give me an option in the settings to turn this off!
I find battery life pretty good even with location services on. It'll go a full day without problems which is all I expect of a modern smartphone. I can do the things I want and unless I play a lot of games one day, I won't need to charge until night time.
Please use the battery impression thread. Finding it will be an exercise left to the OP
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Performance and Battery in JB.

I was wondering. I looked everywhere and cannot find exact confirmation or Review. The 4.1.2 update is coming soon for the Optimus 4X and I read on 2-3 blogs that it'll apparently improve battery life. Is that true? Has anyone tried that themselves? From what I observe on my 4X that there are a couple of apps running in the system sucking up the battery. Will the future update fix this to extend its life? Sorry if this question was asked before and/or I've made a double post.
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I'm an average user... Not much into games but I message a lot and play on YouTube use wifi and phone regularly... This is much improved for me over 10x
One day+?! Holy-- yeah that's surely an improvement to what I'm experiencing now. Is the phone running smoother as these blogs say? Any crashes/freezes or its a perfect charm. I'd just want to know what to expect...
Also, I've noticed that my phone tends to warm up from... almost everything. Is it still happening?
Edit: Sorry about this post... I rushed on asking this question without realizing that there's a Q&A section.. is there anyway to move the post? If not then I'll delete it.
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mine (first half is @ night i was checking if my phone was in deep sleep or not). I disabled many services that i dont use (MLT, lg smart, talk etc )
Disabled them as in uninstalled them? And wow.. yeah that's surely a lot better than now. Better then my last phone.
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My battery is still the same as that in v10f. I get about 3.5h of screen on time( mainly web browsing ) to reach 10%
How is the overall performance?
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Battery life on ics is still better. Anyway, jb is leak version only
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I know it's leak only. Hopefully the full release will be better.
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stormysea94 said:
My battery is still the same as that in v10f. I get about 3.5h of screen on time( mainly web browsing ) to reach 10%
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thank you finaly someone who understands what part of battery life tests are important.
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thank you finaly someone who understands what part of battery life tests are important.
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Depends on what you think is important. My phone is my "phone". I expect it to be as such. I can't imagine Web browsing for 3+ hours on my device. My Dell mini is better suited for that task and has better then 3+ hrs battery life. But maybe if your a gamer or a Facebook addict or Web browser cowboy, you find like people that use their device in the same manner as yourself and then compare notes.
Because of my job I'm often on the go and don't have the opportunity to recharge my device at leisure. It's nice to know it can be used as a phone all day and I'll still be able to call my wife at the end of that day. There if definitely improved battery in 20x after a few services are disabled and be r uninstalled. Prior to leaked JB my device required recharge after i got home. This is how I use my device and the condition under what I use it. These are my results but your milage may vary.
Yes the interface experience for me feels silky smooth. No lag, and no crashes or FCs. Best device I've owned to date.
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Depends on what you think is important. My phone is my "phone". I expect it to be as such. I can't imagine Web browsing for 3+ hours on my device. My Dell mini is better suited for that task and has better then 3+ hrs battery life. But maybe if your a gamer or a Facebook addict or Web browser cowboy, you find like people that use their device in the same manner as yourself and then compare notes.
Because of my job I'm often on the go and don't have the opportunity to recharge my device at leisure. It's nice to know it can be used as a phone all day and I'll still be able to call my wife at the end of that day. There if definitely improved battery in 20x after a few services are disabled and be r uninstalled. Prior to leaked JB my device required recharge after i got home. This is how I use my device and the condition under what I use it. These are my results but your milage may vary.
Yes the interface experience for me feels silky smooth. No lag, and no crashes or FCs. Best device I've owned to date.
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its not specificly the browsing he did that makes the post usefull unlike some people posting battery charts its the fact that he posts screen on time rather then the chart.
the full charts are useless as you cannot see how often the phone was actualy used.
if i link you 2 charts 1 with slow battery drain in standby and no apps used at all (no screen on time) lasting 2 days exactly and 1 with near no battery in standby and 4 hours app use.
they both look the same if you post a battery chart but only the second one shows the potential of the battery life.
the first just shows the phone needed to be charged after 2 days the second showed the phone is capable of lasting 2 days with near no idle battery drain and gives a verry descent 4 hours screen on time.
a phone that is configured correctly and had good 3g/wifi signal and has 3g/wifi managed correctly, has no apps with adds and no apps that drain battery wil berely use any juice in standby leaving almost all the juice for screen on time.
a badlymanaged phone might drain up to 10% an hour because of adds and poort wifi/3g management/signal.
so in a perfect world (which we should aim for) only screen on/inapp time is important as there should be no other power hoggers.

Those on Lollipop, has battery life changed?

One of the key features of Lollipop is Project Volta, which is supposed to improve battery life, specifically standby time. I know the update has only been out a few days, but for those that have it, how much has your battery life improved?
It seems drastically better for me. Enough so that I'm going to keep the phone after thinking about getting rid of it after early battery life underwhelmed me. Where I used to finish the day at 10% or so, I'm now closer to 30-40%.
What I've found is that L without Greenify has battery life like Kitkat did with Greenify. Now that we have root we'll see if greenify makes it even better.
It's been a solid improvement for me, at least when I'm connected to wifi and the phone isn't being actively used. Probably only losing about 1% an hour now, as opposed to more like 3% before.
Project Volta optimizes battery consumption but app developers have to support the APIs, see here:
https://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-5.0.html#Power
So, basically, Google and Motorola apps probably already use this, but battery life will not be so much better until app developers introduce support for these APIs
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It seems drastically better for me. Enough so that I'm going to keep the phone after thinking about getting rid of it after early battery life underwhelmed me. Where I used to finish the day at 10% or so, I'm now closer to 30-40%.
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Likewise for me. It is like a different phone!
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Battery Issues
I may be in the minority here, but my battery life has significantly decreased since the update. I don't have specific figures but I do know that on normal usage, whereas my battery used to be at about 70% after approximately 4 hours, it's now down to about 50%. I suspect it is due to some apps that are not optimized for 5.0 that are restarting again and again in the background. Either way, I hope this issue is corrected because I am having a hard time walking away from the charger for very long.
Mine is much better then before on KK.

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