[Q] Samsung smart dock on Xperia z1? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I was looking at the Samsung smart dock :
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And was wondering if it would work on the Xperia z1?
I know that the z1 supports MHL and OTG so I'm guessing it could work..
Also, I realise that the actual phone won't fit onto the dock properly but I really want hdmi out with at least 2 usb inputs, so I'm fine with using a micro usb male to female cable to run from the phone onto the dock.
This is my first post so let me know if I'm doing something wrong
Thanks in advance
- Dr. Klyde

It's a hardware issue actually, Samsung uses special usb connectors which can active both mhl and usb at the same time, not sure Sony does too...
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I use something like this and it works fine to have HDMI out, but never tried using the USB in at the same time.

You can use the usb as storage or only for charging while using hdmi?
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gregbradley said:
I use something like and it works fine to have HDMI out, but never tried using the USB in at the same time.
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I heard that the USB input on that could only be used for power and nothing else.. :/

I think that's correct, as the HDMI output does not work unless there is AC power going to the Micro USB in.

shteren said:
It's a hardware issue actually, Samsung uses special usb connectors which can active both mhl and usb at the same time, not sure Sony does too...
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Theres a cheaper version of the dock on ebay for $11 which has HDMI and USB (both full size) ports. I might buy it and try that one first.

A stupid question, how can I use the MHL cable and charge the Z1 in the same time? It is possible?

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any HDMI adaptor for LG OPTIMUS BLACK???

hey guys, anyone know how to connect our LG OB to a LCD tv with a HDMI adaptor or such????
Our OB not support HDMI....Sorry
Wanted it too
Some people say this is the optimus black, but it's 2x.
/watch?v=iwpozyKyacY
But if someone create any app, its impossible?
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sexation said:
But if someone create any app, its impossible?
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Create an app to do what ?
There is no HDMI port on the phone, the only solution i see is to use the USB port, but then you would also need some hardware that connects on the USB and reinterprets that data sent to it and export that on a HDMI port.
I for one haven't seen any such devices (USB-to-HDMI for phones).
verszipo said:
Create an app to do what ?
There is no HDMI port on the phone, the only solution i see is to use the USB port, but then you would also need some hardware that connects on the USB and reinterprets that data sent to it and export that on a HDMI port.
I for one haven't seen any such devices (USB-to-HDMI for phones).
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It is called MHL adapter
It does exactly that- micro usb to HDMI and is being use in galaxy nexus and galaxy note etc
Unfortunately not the case for our blacky
So, finally end with smart share..USB mass storage only...
NO HDMI...:banghead:
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omap 3630
Hi,
I found this update driver and libs for our black ,and i think that we can use mhl cable ,
Just we have to waite for dev to update the kernel.
Link: http://git.omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/p-android-omap3-3.0
darkitoo said:
Hi,
I found this update driver and libs for our black ,and i think that we can use mhl cable ,
Just we have to waite for dev to update the kernel.
Link: http://git.omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/p-android-omap3-3.0
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Cant tell you how much i hope you are wright and we get to use mhl
are you sure you cant use an micro usb-hdmi cable, parhaps with an app that interprates the signal and send it through usb
GerardoSDR said:
are you sure you cant use an micro usb-hdmi cable, parhaps with an app that interprates the signal and send it through usb
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As said before it is nothing to do with an app. It has to be supported by the kernel. So far not possible for the black. Also possible issue is the output electricity. It needs to be 5v 500mA.
Technically speaking the OBs chipset supports usb-otg and hdmi .
Just matter of incorporating mhl in the kernel now or on ICS.
P.s. In an optimistic mood i bought the before mentioned adapter, and it has optional external power supply ( the phone charger or battery pack) .Waiting for it to come, and either there will be some change in near future or there will be new phone which supports mhl out of the box.
opti_black lacks HDMI connectivity..
thats sad but true .
It is not OB that lacks it.
The SOC can do it. It is LG that ain't interested in giving us the option.
i certainly wouldn't use it
i did not use it at all in my optimus 3D
As like the members say it certainly depends upon the taste of droidser.. some of them take its advantage while other rarely..
However its overall use by droidser is least.
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So guys are you sure there is nothing to do in order to connect OB to TV by hdmi cable?
I just bought a LED TV a week ago and I want to connect the ob to it..
Afraid not a lot to be done. I have usb to hdmi adapter and it works fine with Galaxy Note , but as mentioned before not with the OB.
Following closely the development for the galaxy sl. They are still in a lock down and no luck.
But still hope is there.
ow about on screen phone??can use it for make an app for hdmi?
done some searching around for this too but no real solution. If you want to see your phone screen on the TV, connect it to you computer, use some remote screen software and connect the computer screen output to the TV

Connecting XZ to HD tv

Hey,
I want to connect my XZ directly to my LG Full HD tv so I can watch my pictures, videos etc on it. I was thinking about buying HDMI a cable for this, since I don't have a Throw compatible tv, but I have 3 questions about this:
- Will this cable really work with it?
- Can I plug it directly into the charging port of my XZ, or do I need an additional adapter?
- Will this harm my phone? I think we've all noticed the XZ gets hot pretty quick, so I assume this will make it even worse.
Thanks for your help.
monologue said:
Hey,
I want to connect my XZ directly to my LG Full HD tv so I can watch my pictures, videos etc on it. I was thinking about buying HDMI a cable for this, since I don't have a Throw compatible tv, but I have 3 questions about this:
- Will this cable really work with it?
- Can I plug it directly into the charging port of my XZ, or do I need an additional adapter?
- Will this harm my phone? I think we've all noticed the XZ gets hot pretty quick, so I assume this will make it even worse.
Thanks for your help.
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-No that cable won't work as Xperia z doesnt have a micro hdmi port.
You need to get a mhl cable.
-The mhl cable plugs into the charging port.
-No it will not harm your phone, all smartphones get hot these days
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Also when buying an mhl/hdmi cable or adapter (for use with a hdmi cable) do check it is the 5 pin version. Often you won't find info on that on the product, in that case you should be fine if it's compatible with Galaxy S2
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OTG USB adapter for the TF701

Found this on amazon for the Vivo tab, which uses the same 36-pin connector as the TF701. So I bought it for $20US hoping it would work with the 701 and it does! Plugged in the OTG adapter and attached my sandisk extreme usb 3 thumbdrive. Used the included SD/uSD card adapter to connect a couple SD cards and had no problems. Didn't do any speed tests or anything, just wanted to make sure they worked, and they did.
ASUS Extension Kit for VivoTab-Series Tablets
Aaroneious said:
Found this on amazon for the Vivo tab, which uses the same 36-pin connector as the TF701. So I bought it for $20US hoping it would work with the 701 and it does! Plugged in the OTG adapter and attached my sandisk extreme usb 3 thumbdrive. Used the included SD/uSD card adapter to connect a couple SD cards and had no problems. Didn't do any speed tests or anything, just wanted to make sure they worked, and they did.
ASUS Extension Kit for VivoTab-Series Tablets
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Wow... Great find!
Hey - happen to have a PS3 controller you could test with? Almost bought the dock purely for this purpose, so I'm dying to know if plugging a controller in through USB would work...
If this really is fully supported by the tf701t, I'm seriously questioning why they didn't say so?
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Trevor_g said:
Wow... Great find!
Hey - happen to have a PS3 controller you could test with? Almost bought the dock purely for this purpose, so I'm dying to know if plugging a controller in through USB would work...
If this really is fully supported by the tf701t, I'm seriously questioning why they didn't say so?
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Sorry, no, I don't have a PS3 controller.
Aaroneious said:
Sorry, no, I don't have a PS3 controller.
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No problem. There is another way to find out. Do you have a USB mouse and/or keyboard handy? If you wouldn't mind testing these basic peripherals, we could really verify if this thing provides host mode for more than disk drives.
If so, I'm buying!
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Trevor_g said:
No problem. There is another way to find out. Do you have a USB mouse and/or keyboard handy? If you wouldn't mind testing these basic peripherals, we could really verify if this thing provides host mode for more than disk drives.
If so, I'm buying!
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Standard mouse and keyboard both work fine when plugged into the OTG adapter.
Shocking. Why in the world would Asus not bother marketing this toward the TF community too?!
Glad you found this. Thanks for sharing and testing... Off to buy!
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In 4 one. 9 left in stock. Now all I need is an extra usb cable. Can anyone point me to one?
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guho said:
In 4 one. 9 left in stock. Now all I need is an extra usb cable. Can anyone point me to one?
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Yeah I just want the extra cable - assume any vivo tab one works?
OTG USB adapter
I have ordered one too. Thanks for the link. :cyclops:
OTG USB Adapter
That's good idea, but unfortunately I can't buy this thing. There are blutooth usb-hub, for example _ttp://usb.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00142
Will it work?
can someone find me the right product on the german amazon site? or uk?
i cant find
Can you charge and use USB with this?
Nice
Finaly, i recieved my OTG USB adapter today, and it works perfectly.
Thanks for the link.
or you can just buy the one meant for the transformer and it's a few dollars cheaper if you can't get the other one. Just doesn't come with the SD card adapter. This is the one that I intend to buy once I get my tablet
evodev said:
or you can just buy the one meant for the transformer and it's a few dollars cheaper if you can't get the other one. Just doesn't come with the SD card adapter. This is the one that I intend to buy once I get my tablet
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Warning: This will not work with our TF701!!!!!! Read the Q&A below the product description !!
should the one for the tf700t also work?
The adapters mentioned that work with the 701 are all usb-2.
Does anyone know of a usb-3 adapter that will work?
matthelm said:
Can you charge and use USB with this?
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I'm considering getting a TF701T, does anyone know if you could use this to charge the device? It'd be nice to know I have a backup if the proprietary USB cable fails.
nop- said:
I'm considering getting a TF701T, does anyone know if you could use this to charge the device? It'd be nice to know I have a backup if the proprietary USB cable fails.
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Also can you simultaneously power the device and provide input using a usb hub(plug in keyboard and mouse for example)?
I went to the computer store. Bought the following:
The adapter which is 2.0 by the way.
USB 3.0 HUB with Power Adaper.
A male to A male cable.
While connected to a the HUB, and while the device is on its says "NOT CHARGING". I turn it off(tablet), Not getting a charge while connected to a the hub. It also drained it while the tablet is off. Nevermind the hub for power.
NO CHARGE FROM HUB
While connected to the PC it drained the power down to 6% then went back up to 50%. Not sure about that because it seemed to charge while it was off.
NO CHARGE FROM PC
As for the power adapter that comes with the tablet to it. Not charging while ON. Turn it off and no charge.
NO CHARGE FROM ASUS POWER ADAPTER
SO no it doesnt charge in any practical sense from this VIVO adapter as far as i can tell. Maybe its the MALE to MALE cable. I dont know. But its not worth trying if there a chance of drain killing it.
Unfortunately from the adapter there is no media connection or usb debugging to pc or usb hub afiak.
NO MEDIA CONNECTION OR USB DEBUGGING
The good news is that the device can connect to the USB HUB and the keyboard , mouse and thumb drive work flawlessly together.

Possible to hook multiple devices up via micro usb port?

Hello all. Planning to get a MHL 2.0 cable for my note 3 but I also want to hook up a keyboard and mouse. I have a logitech k/b that uses wireless signal via a USB dongle. I figured the OTG cable would suffice but naturally once the MHL cable is in, there is no way to also use the OTG cable. Curious if there is some sort of hub that allows at least 1x micro usb and 1x full size usb, or some sort of splitter? I realize a bluetooth keyboard and mouse is probably another solution but would prefer to avoid if I could.
Thanks!
In other words, you want to make your phone a desktop computer?
yeh basically. Easier to work while on my lunch break. Thanks
Yes.
I made a pretty ghetto setup but it works.
What you will need is an OTG cable
A stand
And a powered USB hub
Mine is home made, but I believe they have this options made into a dock for this phone.
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I was hoping to do the same thing. But through bluetooth. I have a bluetooth keyboard that connects but I just got a lenovo n700 bluetooth mouse but my phone wouldn't recognize it. :/
The mouse connected to my ipad though...
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After my post I came across the Samsung Smart Dock, which looks to do what Im trying to accomplish. May invest in that, a little pricey though
As for the idea above, I still need to have a Micro USB for the MHL right? Or can I get an adapter to do USB to Micro USB to make it work?
You need an 11 pin adapter for MHL. Samsung and rocket fish sell the correct equipment.
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IS THERE an MHL to HDMI Cable for Samsung Note 2 that actually CHARGES the phone????

I have an MHL to HDMI Cable (from cable matters)....it said it would charge my note 2 ...but it clearly DOES NOT.....
so
My question is ....is there one that WILL charge my note 2 while using the adapter. I can't find one...and some I have come across manufacturer says it won't charge...that's why I'm asking you fine people. ...THANKS
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Dock-...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item3f282bb1c3
I have this and it will charge your phone while using hdmi out, with mouse and keyboard, and an external usb hdd connected. While it is not a cable like you were asking about it will do what you want and you can look around and find many different prices from $25-$75.
jlmancuso said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Dock-...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item3f282bb1c3
I have this and it will charge your phone while using hdmi out, with mouse and keyboard, and an external usb hdd connected. While it is not a cable like you were asking about it will do what you want and you can look around and find many different prices from $25-$75.
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I actually have that....and for me....the HDMI is speculate at best....I will try it again (I use it for night docking purposes)
I was actually looking for MHL to HDMI Cable
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ganggreen777 said:
I actually have that....and for me....the HDMI is speculate at best....I will try it again (I use it for night docking purposes)
I was actually looking for MHL to HDMI Cable
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I do not believe so. Every (just) cable that I have tried so far has not worked so far.

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