Why did Google put such a small battery in a 5' 1080p screen? - Nexus 5 General

Why not design a bigger physical frame and slap in a bigger battery to accommodate the higher end specs? I'm sure a lot of Nexus 5 users can agree.
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I don't know, but I'll say this. I get as good, if not better, battery life than I did with the Galaxy S4 using a ZeroLemon 3000mah battery.

I have no qualms about the battery - it does more than enough for me and I can get a days use with around 40% left at night
Problem is what's good for one is crap for another - you can't win!

I think those who are good with the battery must be using an HSPA network

I dont need a bigger battery and if they had to make the phone larger to accommodate it I would stick with what I have now.
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mjs2011 said:
I don't know, but I'll say this. I get as good, if not better, battery life than I did with the Galaxy S4 using a ZeroLemon 3000mah battery.
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This. My battery life is definitely better than it was with my S4, which has a bigger battery. I'm a happy camper. If Google had stuck a bigger battery in the N5, we'd have 472 threads complaining that the phone is too thick.

mr mystery said:
I think those who are good with the battery must be using an HSPA network
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Possibly, as I'm only on 3G until next year, but my colleague on 4G with a Nexus 5 has no issues with battery either - and he uses his phone a LOT more than I do!
The issue here is all down to an individuals usage patterns and apps in use. I literally only use Gmail, Twitter, Facebook, G+, Hangouts (for the odd SMS), BT Sport/Sky Go for the Football and the phone itself - that's it! I don't play games and rarely watch video bar the odd YouTube moment when on the toilet!

While I'm happy with my N5 and regularly make it through 2 days on a charge due to excellent standby time, the screen on time is slightly disappointing. My G'Nex saw 5½ hours SOT regularly when new, whereas the N5 is usually 4-4½. I know the N5 is a more powerful phone all around with a slightly larger screen, but the battery is also considerably larger capacity and you kind of expect 2 year newer technology to be better in EVERY respect, not worse in battery life.
With that said by the time I got my N5 my G'Nex was only averaging 2½ hours SOT a charge (don't know if the battery was just wearing out or newer android versions just drained more and more), so the 5 does feel like a good increase. Overall though 4 hours SOT and only charging every other day is perfectly acceptable to me.
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Nexus5 has a similar sized battery as the HTC One(my last phone), and this far surpasses the One in battery life.

1) Greatly reduced idle power consumption
2) LTE envelope tracking
3) Improved power efficiency of the Snapdragon 800-series chips
Once you stop all the poorly written software you have on your device from keeping the device awake, hogging CPU and/or keeping GPS active, the N5 has amazing battery life.
I have 3 google accounts + facebook + google voice + linkedin + google plus, on AT&T LTE, and my idle consumption is <1%/hr, for over 100 hours standby time.
1 hour of screen on time / day = 75-80% remaining when I go to bed, assuming I haven't plugged the device in at all, and didn't use GPS.
I get better battery life on LTE networks -- less awake time waiting on background data, envelope tracking and better coverage (AT&T has done a great job with 700mhz LTE in Austin)
Beats all my previous droids by a large margin.

The Nexus 5 battery gets me through the day without any issues. Even then, I have wireless chargers on my office desk, my home desk, and my nightstand, so keeping it powered is not an issue.
When I do need more juice, I have an 11,000 mAh battery pack.
The thing with a larger phone for battery life is that you always have to take that with you, no matter how much juice you will be using. With the Nexus 5, I have a battery that meets my daily usage patterns and I can carry extra power when I need it.

mr mystery said:
I think those who are good with the battery must be using an HSPA network
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i use lte only, nothing else, no wifi, and get 5-7h sot daily. lte is much better on the battery than hspa+, much.

95Z28 said:
My G'Nex saw 5½ hours SOT regularly when new
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Are you a wizard?
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Excellent battery life here. Better than my GS4 and equal to my ex-MotoX. Not bad considering it's much much faster in all aspects than both.

simms22 said:
i use lte only, nothing else, no wifi, and get 5-7h sot daily. lte is much better on the battery than hspa+, much.
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7hours of sot wow!
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I was thinking about uninstalling all of my apps but then again, what's the point of a smart phone. Might as well get a normal phone for calling and texting only.
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dicecuber said:
7hours of soy wow!
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probably on 8-9h uptime
i get 5h on a 24h uptime, mostly LTE

nrvate said:
1) Greatly reduced idle power consumption
2) LTE envelope tracking
3) Improved power efficiency of the Snapdragon 800-series chips
Once you stop all the poorly written software you have on your device from keeping the device awake, hogging CPU and/or keeping GPS active, the N5 has amazing battery life.
I have 3 google accounts + facebook + google voice + linkedin + google plus, on AT&T LTE, and my idle consumption is <1%/hr, for over 100 hours standby time.
1 hour of screen on time / day = 75-80% remaining when I go to bed, assuming I haven't plugged the device in at all, and didn't use GPS.
I get better battery life on LTE networks -- less awake time waiting on background data, envelope tracking and better coverage (AT&T has done a great job with 700mhz LTE in Austin)
Beats all my previous droids by a large margin.
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Coming from an iPhone 5, I'm more than happy with the battery life of my nexus 5. Haven't even done any battery saving tweaks yet, even have auto brightness on. This sucker rocks! I'm sure I'll eventually get into saving the battery usage, but just saying that for now, it still beats my iPhone 5 in everything so far.
Recently I wanted to transfer a few files between the two, and had everything turned off on the iPhone except for WiFi, and my nexus just like normal (Bluetooth on, WiFi, cell, etc). I was impressed to see the nexus 5 STILL last longer than my iPhone 5.
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At first I was concern about the small battery but with some of these kernel like Faux and Franco, the battery life is amazing. On Faux I am getting about 5hrs of SOT, and if I am just surfing and texting I hit 7hrs 15mins of SOT

dicecuber said:
7hours of sot wow!
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i have 180 apps
rayiskon said:
probably on 8-9h uptime
i get 5h on a 24h uptime, mostly LTE
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right. im a heavy user, and will use the device for 9-12 hours with 5-7 hours sot.
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The most Mah you can get without an Extended case or back cover? I ordered this and they sent me a 4750 mah. Hmmmm?
Link- http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEEP-4600mA..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item3a85e02ed8
Are you going to be doing a test of how accurate the mAh is?
So they managed to fit one and a half times the power into the same sized battery?
Either they have a new technology or they are magicians.
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apallohadas said:
So they managed to fit one and a half times the power into the same sized battery?
Either they have a new technology or they are magicians.
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I know another cool magic trick. You remove the cover off this battery to reveal the actual capacity stamped on it's cells, a standard 3100 mAh
hehe, or more like 2500mah
I'll do a battery test soon. Just returned to stock. Going to charge to 100% then run it with normal usage. I'll post screen shots sometime late tomorrow.
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I'll do a battery test soon. Just returned to stock. Going to charge to 100% then run it with normal usage. I'll post screen shots sometime late tomorrow.
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Btw, we are not trying to give you a hard time. It just that we have discussed so many extra capacity batteries (OEM slim footprint), and every one was found to be a lie. You will be lucky to get something at 3100 mAh, while a lot of 4200 mAh batteries turned out to be 2500 mAh. I actually had external hardware setup with V/A meter draining batteries with a clip attached to terminals on one side while simulating a phone load on another side with high wattage resistors. It didn't look too good.
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Btw, we are not trying to give you a hard time. It just that we have discussed so many extra capacity batteries (OEM slim footprint), and every one was found to be a lie. You will be lucky to get something at 3100 mAh, while a lot of 4200 mAh batteries turned out to be 2500 mAh. I actually had external hardware setup with V/A meter draining batteries with a clip attached to terminals on one side while simulating a phone load on another side with high wattage resistors. It didn't look too good.
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Always trust this guys reviews^
He doesn't just review the product, he damn near makes you wanna buy it after reading it. Damn good salesperson lol.
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Started testing about 10 hours ago. Decided to run Carbon 4.3.1 with Neak kernel instead of stock. Here are the results at 75%. Still Juicing.
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Started testing about 10 hours ago. Decided to run Carbon 4.3.1 with Neak kernel instead of stock. Here are the results at 75%. Still Juicing.
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Looks like you are hardly using the phone with 1 hr screen on time ... especially if that's the majority of the usage. How about doing a real test... moderate to heavy usage, texting , youtube, internet browsing , music and movie play back. That battery will read MUCH LOWER.
I good suggestion for a test, run free Nova battery tester: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.NanoDinamics.NovaTester
I wouldn't trust the accuracy of mAh calculation, but it runs very CPU/GPU intense test to drain your battery. Do it with your stock battery, and then with deep stretch battery to compare the screen on and other results. As a relative test for comparison it should work. I think the test runs for about 2hr, so once it done run it again, starting from 100% battery until you run it down to 5%.
Right now I'm running at normal usage. I do watch tons of You Tube vids. Read tech reviews. Go through my Flipboard, Taptu news feeds. Check up on XDA, Facebook, Google+, get calls from wife. Internet browse. And download apps. While looking for reviews on this battery I came across a thread in the Note 3 forum mentioning a Deep Stretch battery and they would like to see my results too. And I'll check out that app. Been looking for a good battery stat app. I'll post more screen shots at 50%.
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50% Did some more video watching. Hulu, YouTube, and Internet browsing.
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If you're trying to establish that these batteries are somehow better than stock, you have quite a task before you.
Either give the app a shot or set up a system similar to the one that Vectron did.
Basically you need a standard to drain a stock and the magical battery. An exact same standard. Browsing videos and just generally using the phone will have a different load from day to day, so you're definitely not going to get a standard and fair comparison. Screenshots will be meaningless since they aren't an exact representation of usage, data connectivity, cell tower searching, etc.
Well I'm hoping they're better than stock. The battery has 4750 mah on it. If it's fake. I'll never buy a Deep Stretch battery again. Just doing a normal usage test. Then I'll try vectron's suggestion tomorrow morning. I'll fully charge both batteries and run Nova battery tester on both.
Update at 25%.
5% Last one for today.
Nova battery test tomorrow. Samsung OEM vs Deep Stretch.
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Picture of back of battery. Front just has Deep Stretch Logo.
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From those stats, the figures are poor for 4600 mAH
I already get 7 hours of screen time on OEM battery on stock fimware when no tuning of the kernel.
Do Not Remove . I Wonder Why : )
I removed the label. Its just all silver with some numbers and a 3.35 v stamped on the side. I googled the numbers and got nothing.
Update:
Sorry I thought I could manage some more tests today but was exhausted after work.
Running stock deodexed.
Standard test failed.
When short tests completed the app closed itself but managed to keep results. Did two short tests on "4750 mah battery"
Will do a long test later and hopefully it completes. In the meanwhile Im going to look for similar testing apps.
Edit: Actually Im going to do a short test on oem battery to see accuracy of calculations.
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Seems at least as good as OEM battery but for it to actually be 33% better you should get at least 9hrs screen on time.

Could the highly varied battery life be a manufacturing issue?

Just throwing this out there... I have a Nexus 5 here has pretty poor battery, mostly when it comes to the screen time. Barely getting 2 hours per charge. In fact, I called google today and they are going to replace it; more on that in a bit.
I've tried stock, CM11, CM11 w/chaos kernel, paranoid w/franco kernel - neither is better than the other.. fter seeing some people on stock + franco and other combinations getting 6-7 hours of screen time it got me thinking. Could we be seeing a set of battery manufacturing defects? Google has already changed the speaker grill and button designs [ironically, my Nexus 5 that was ordered 1 week ago came w/the smaller speaker grill and loose buttons].
However, I'm wondering if there was a bad batch of batteries out there? If I didn't get an exchange from google I was going to pop this phone open and replace the battery with a new one just to prove a point. When I spoke to google today, they thought that a 20% drop in about 30 minutes of use was excessive, which I have to agree.
Ideas? Thoughts?
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I'm repeating a post from the battery thread I just made....
[quote name="wdwms" post=51191930]I'm wondering if all the variances in battery life we are seeing could be a sign of a broader issue - a large batch of defective batteries?
opened this thread for thoughts/comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2686119[/QUOTE]
Nope. Its the variances in usage and settings. Guaranteed.
I got 6 hours screen time plus on my Moto x....always. with no changes whatsoever, my wife gets 4 1/2. Why? 90 percent of my use was tapatalk. Mostly just text. 90 percent of her use is Facebook, mostly images....with text. Images take more power to load than text.
That primary difference in our usage patterns made a consistent hour and half screen time difference. Oh....and she makes a few calls, I barely ever had or made calls.
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Not meaning to debunk your theory....there are occasional defects....but mostly the huge differences are usage and settings.
The guys getting 6 hours plus screen time usually are running with most services off or frozen. Dim screens. Obviously not gaming much or at all. Not using location services or navigating. These things can make giant differences in battery life.
I suggest getting gsam. And doing a full discharge with it and doing some screen shots at the end. I'm betting if you think you have an issue that can be solved.....or its your particular usage patterns.
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I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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JNMM said:
I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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I was using auto....and yeah, generally it's not to bad....now. I think 4.4.2 improved it....doesn't Jack up to full as much.
Then I saw someone mention "display brightness" app ....its awesome. A little slider always on my screen. Love it!
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I get 6 hours screen on time on the reggie. Location left on (high accuracy) and same with Google now. I think the only things I have turned off in Google now are search history and location reporting. NFC off. Auto brightness. I agree with kj its based on your usage. I really only use my phone for tapatalk or texting mainly. Some Facebook (not really too into it) emails and a liiiitle bit of gaming.. I also use custom kernels and slightly undervolt. My phone can take -25 across the board and 675mV at 300mhz. I mostly UV for heating purposes when I game. (Addicted to robot unicorn attack 2 and smash it). Also don't use any kind of tap or swipe to wake (KILLS battery on this phone). Plus I always charge with USB. I read somewhere that lithium ion batteries discharge slower if they are charged with USB as opposed to AC. That and I don't have free A/C slots in my man cave. Just a USB port to from my PlayStation to a qi wireless charger. Yes it takes a while....
your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.
Unless you heavily use GPS or voice calls, 2 hours SoT is too low. To get that you probably have a rogue processes preventing the phone from sleeping. In comparison, I've used the phone to game for over 3 hours on a charge.
Once that's out of the way and if you're still not happy with the battery life you're seeing ask yourself: what's running on my phone that I don't really need?
Every frivolous widget, forgotten service, or Google Now card is going to use some amount of battery and they add up on a limited power source.
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simms22 said:
your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.
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That's a great point @simms22, don't think people factor into the equation quality of reception. In China on crappy HSPA+ with 1 bar, I'm lucky to get 3-4 SOT. In Los Angeles on an excellent LTE connection I can get 5-6 SOT. So reception adds 2 hrs of SOT in my case.
OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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kj2112 said:
OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).
wdwms said:
Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).
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Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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kj2112 said:
Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?
wdwms said:
My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.
kj2112 said:
We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)
rajneeshk said:
Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.
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I just said in another post about this.....I hope the "fix" doesn't end up messing up my current amazing battery life. LOL.
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wdwms said:
Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)
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Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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bblzd said:
Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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housry23 said:
That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
Moto G battery life is mainly due to its considerably less powerful specifications.
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bblzd said:
It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
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I stand corrected. I will do my own test using only 3g tomorrow night. Thanks for the info.
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Light use endurance

Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the HTC 10's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I get extremely good battery with light usage.
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this is light use?
i get like 5 days with light use lol
On wifi, the battery is in the ruins, no matter you use the phone or not. See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/wifi-constant-suspend-resume-leading-to-t3392562
With wifi off and using data only, I am at 81% after 22 hours of light usage with 1hr15min SOT. If I just extrapolate, I end up with about 5 days of 6hrs SOT of light usage off the charger. But that's not going to happen, I will likely end up with 3 days and 3 hrs of SOT on light usage... I will likely end the experiment (of keeping it off the charger) tomorrow after 48 hours off the charger and see how it went. We shall see.
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On wifi, the battery is in the ruins, no matter you use the phone or not. See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/wifi-constant-suspend-resume-leading-to-t3392562
With wifi off and using data only, I am at 81% after 22 hours of light usage with 1hr15min SOT. If I just extrapolate, I end up with about 5 days of 6hrs SOT of light usage off the charger. But that's not going to happen, I will likely end up with 3 days and 3 hrs of SOT on light usage... I will likely end the experiment (of keeping it off the charger) tomorrow after 48 hours off the charger and see how it went. We shall see.
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That's been my experience. This phone just goes and goes and goes with light use. I've found it quite easy to get 36 hours and still have 30%+ remaining, and I live in an area with poor cell coverage.
I concur, if the wifi signal is weak, then the batter will drain rather quickly.
StilsonCanyon said:
That's been my experience. This phone just goes and goes and goes with light use. I've found it quite easy to get 36 hours and still have 30%+ remaining, and I live in an area with poor cell coverage.
I concur, if the wifi signal is weak, then the batter will drain rather quickly.
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The wifi issue on HTC 10 has got nothing to do with signal strength. Signal strength is fine. It seems to affect certain people or may be most people don't even know it affects them. Have a look at the post I linked to. It has more details and a way to find if you are affected or not.
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The wifi issue on HTC 10 has got nothing to do with signal strength. Signal strength is fine. It seems to affect certain people or may be most people don't even know it affects them. Have a look at the post I linked to. It has more details and a way to find if you are affected or not.
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Hmm. I considered it to be related to the poor wifi signal in the part of the house where I was sleeping. The phone lost nearly 20% in 4 hours last night. Today, at my office, it has lost 4% in 4 hours with strong wifi and cell signals.
I don't know too much about adb, but if I can help, let me know.
I for one experience better standby on Wifi than on 4G (and I assume that is normal). I did a light-use run and I got a little bit over 40 hrs of use with 2 hrs 45 min screen-on time. It actually lasted me a whole two days as HTC brags about. From this perspective, one of the best phones I ever owned. On wifi, over night, the phone would lose maybe 1%... 2%tops
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I for one experience better standby on Wifi than on 4G (and I assume that is normal). I did a light-use run and I got a little bit over 40 hrs of use with 2 hrs 45 min screen-on time. It actually lasted me a whole two days as HTC brags about. From this perspective, one of the best phones I ever owned. On wifi, over night, the phone would lose maybe 1%... 2%tops
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That's how it should be. A good wifi connection should be eating less battery than LTE.
You are the guy/gal we are looking for in that other thread.... Can you please post with your output in that other thread? I will likely have some more questions for you as we diagnose this issue on HTC10. It seems to affect quite a few people. So, your help will be greatly appreciated.
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Today, at my office, it has lost 4% in 4 hours with strong wifi and cell signals.
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That's about the right rate for a strong wifi connection. So, your wifi is working fine as well.
After 1st charge I got barely 26 hours battery with 20% left. Hope things will improve with next charges
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Best result so far with light usage: a little bit over 41 hours. That's more than two full work days... In this time I did play a little and had a few serious sessions of browsing, blinkfeeding and Facebook. But almost no camera, YouTube or music. Most of the time on Wifi, the rest on 4G+. Still, 41 hrs with 2 hr:40 min SOT is good enough for me for this type of usage. Best phone so far as endurance is concerned...
Here is my "light" usage: 2h45m SOT, 54hrs off the charger, 52% used. All the use is over 4G LTE (good 3 bars), no wifi (see my post about wifi drain at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/wifi-constant-suspend-resume-leading-to-t3392562). With 48% remaining, I am projected to reach over 90hrs off charger with more than 5hrs of SOT.
Brightness at 40% with Auto, which is plenty bright for me indoors AND outdoors with Auto boost. Cores locked at 1Ghz (little ones) and 1.6Ghz (big ones), which is plenty of power for me. Note that Power saver mode locks them all at 1.3Ghz. I am not using the Power saver mode (extreme power save mode is different than this) because it ruins the brightness completely, and 1.3Ghz is too slow.
Nearly 4 days off charger with 5hrs SOT is totally unbelievable. This is my typical work days where I don't get to play with the phone a whole lot. HTC 10 just rocks!!
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Here is my "light" usage: 2h45m SOT, 54hrs off the charger, 52% used. All the use is over 4G LTE (good 3 bars), no wifi (see my post about wifi drain at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/wifi-constant-suspend-resume-leading-to-t3392562). With 48% remaining, I am projected to reach over 90hrs off charger with more than 5hrs of SOT.
Brightness at 40% with Auto, which is plenty bright for me indoors AND outdoors with Auto boost. Cores locked at 1Ghz (little ones) and 1.6Ghz (big ones), which is plenty of power for me. Note that Power saver mode locks them all at 1.3Ghz. I am not using the Power saver mode (extreme power save mode is different than this) because it ruins the brightness completely, and 1.3Ghz is too slow.
Nearly 4 days off charger with 5hrs SOT is totally unbelievable. This is my typical work days where I don't get to play with the phone a whole lot. HTC 10 just rocks!!
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After using the phone for over an hour and half for calls today, I am left with 79 hrs off the charger, 4hrs SOT with 10% remaining. Expected to reach 88hrs (or may be even more when EPS kicks in at 5%..), 4h25m SOT. Not quite 4 days off charger but very very close. This is the light use phone to get!!
BTW, during the calls the screen was dimly lit.... It should turn the screen off to save battery during the call. So, technically that hour and half of calls today probably ate more battery than they should have.
One more light usage screenshot. This time with wifi on most of the time except for when I sleep. 4 days and 1 hrs with 3.5hrs of SOT, with 10% battery still in the tank. HTC 10 is a battery life beast!!
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I for one experience better standby on Wifi than on 4G (and I assume that is normal). I did a light-use run and I got a little bit over 40 hrs of use with 2 hrs 45 min screen-on time. It actually lasted me a whole two days as HTC brags about. From this perspective, one of the best phones I ever owned. On wifi, over night, the phone would lose maybe 1%... 2%tops
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I have about the same on my phone, I get the most drain on 4G but both at work and home on wifi the battery lasts for days =)
Elfmirth said:
I have about the same on my phone, I get the most drain on 4G but both at work and home on wifi the battery lasts for days =)
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Ha, now that you've resurected my post, I can give an update... In June, on WiFi, it usually sucked about 1-2% overnight, but now, after more than four months, it goes down up to 10% overnight... I think a system refresh is in order
Mines pretty bad, light use would be it sitting in my drawer a lot.
My work iPhone does the same (i don't pay for it, it's just for email, don't judge me)
Anyway, this iPhone 6, nothing special, has three emails running, wifi always on, occasionally make a call, but thats it.
One charge, 165hrs about 3.5 hours SOT, so yea very little use.
But i just couldn't do that with the HTC, maybe in airplane mode but for me it dies pretty quick, a day maybe more, but thats it.
Reason i mentioned the crapple phone was that i was shocked to see the stamina of it, crazy, but if i was using it normally, it'd be dead in 6 hours lol i wouldn't swap my htc.

How is your battery?

Third day with mine and battery is killer. I'm at 14 hours plus overall and 5 hours plus of SOT. Still have 42% percent left. Unlocked S10+ on VZW.
WOW!!
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Third day with mine and battery is killer. I'm at 14 hours plus overall and 5 hours plus of SOT. Still have 42% percent left. Unlocked S10+ on VZW.
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I can't complain, I've taken about 100 photos on top of all the messing around and I'm at 43%. Same phone and carrier as you.
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Not entirely impressed. I have the S10e Exynos version and at about 10-15 percent left I've only had between 3½ to 5 hours SOT which isn't terrible, but I definitely thought it would be better with a 1080p screen.
My battery on my S10e (Snapdragon Version) drains very quickly. When I charge my phone to 100% then disconnect the charger from the phone. I notice that my battery percentage drops 2 to 3% within 1 or 2 minutes from a full charge after disconnecting. Does this mean that battery itself is defective?
S10e only has 3100mAh, doesn't seem like it will last all day. S10+ is almost 35% more.
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Battery life for my s10+ is amazing. Came home with like 40% still with like 5 hours screen time. My average battery with my note 9 was like 4-5 hours max with like 5-10% left. Main uses: social media apps (snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, hangouts, groupme), Netflix, YouTube, crunchyroll, Google maps, xda, Amazon, chrome, camera, spotify.
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My battery on my S10e (Snapdragon Version) drains very quickly. When I charge my phone to 100% then disconnect the charger from the phone. I notice that my battery percentage drops 2 to 3% within 1 or 2 minutes from a full charge after disconnecting. Does this mean that battery itself is defective?
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my S10+ exynos do the same as you man, but it is just the first day for me with the phone , must give it some time i think and check , even the battery button in device care is saying Learning to optimize battery or something like that
Battery life ok for me. I have s10 exynos and i am getting 7hrs SOT. I am all the time on Wi-Fi. LTE will give less results.
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Battery is good on my Exynos version on T-Mobile. First few days were very rough but I've disabled always on display, bluetooth/wifi scanning, mobile data always active, etc. in order to get acceptable battery life. It sucks that I can't use core features that I really enjoy but it is what it is. Hoping once the Exynos version gets root and custom kernels, I'll be able to squeeze a lot of battery. Attached was my battery life mid-day.
I'm going to try to enable the always on display and what not to see if the battery just needed a few more days to optimise.
I have owned a lot of phones and I've never had good battery life out of the box. It usually takes a few charging cycles for the battery to settle in.
AOD type of apps also get counted in SOT, such as Always On Edge.
First full charge cycle. Not bad considering I've been on it setting the phone up how I want and that One UI's battery gets better as it learns your usage patterns. This is at full resolution.
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Battery is good on my Exynos version on T-Mobile. First few days were very rough but I've disabled always on display, bluetooth/wifi scanning, mobile data always active, etc. in order to get acceptable battery life. It sucks that I can't use core features that I really enjoy but it is what it is. Hoping once the Exynos version gets root and custom kernels, I'll be able to squeeze a lot of battery. Attached was my battery life mid-day.
I'm going to try to enable the always on display and what not to see if the battery just needed a few more days to optimise.
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I thought USA have the snapdragon version of s10. I'll post my first cycle once I hit 15%
quite happy with the battery life of my S10e (exynos)
So the day after I post that I'm not impressed with the battery, I've been getting this battery life today. A bit over an hour of gaming and half an hour of YouTube, 3 and a half hours total screen on time at 50%. I'm happy with that, on the Exynos S10e.
Ok so here's what I got after the first full charge. Got my device yesterday in UK galaxy s10 exynos 128/8 gb model. Overall not hugely impressed with battery life although it too early to come up with a final verdict. I wasn't expecting to be blown away with battery life due to the fact that exynos model is 8nm compare to the SD model 7nm so efficiency wise exynos behind than SD model. So i went ahead tuned off auto brightness, AOD kept my brightness around 35-50% during my usage. Had adaptive power saving turned on. Night mode. Purchased package disabler and disabled few packages like Facebook, LinkedIn bixby etc. And had background data and activities disabled for bunch of my apps that I do not require push notifications. Its still too early to say anything but I was only using my phone for social media, WhatsApp some YouTube and streamed for a bit. Hopefully after few cycles I'll get around 5+ SOT (because I'm spoiled with pocophones 4000 mah with 8 hours of SOT)
Coming from my note 8 to this snapdragon s10, I wasnt expecting much of a difference (3300 vs 3400mah), but boy the difference is night and day. I have to say this s10 has truly surprised me with battery life. I would recommend going through all the settings menus and enabling certain battery features, such as the automatic power mode. I have easily surpassed 8 hours screen on time and my standby is fantastic as well, as high as 18 hours so far. I literally can go a full day with this device (have owned it 3 days), which is a first for me with any android/Samsung product. Very surprising as I am a very heavy user. To put it in perspective, I am charging this device nearly as often as my iPad Pro 10.5, which is shocking to me.
Currently at 17 hours on battery with 4 hours on screen at 42%. Screen is always on WQHD+ and I am running AOD. Again, very pleased. Was a bit concerned about not getting the s10+ due to battery size, but I couldn't stand the dual camera on the front. After using the note 8, I have no regrets as this battery life is about 3x better than my note, even after a fresh restore.
Got my S10 yesterday, it's a exynos model. On the moment not very pleased with it's battery life. It came out of the box 40% so i've used it till around 17% and did a charge to 100%
On the moment it's at 83% with 45min screen time and it's 2 hours ago that i've unplugged it. It's not bad but it aint very good either. But must say my galaxy watch is always contected, and i've made a 20 min call. I'll check it out in a few days when it had some full charge cycles under it's belt.
i don't know why the phone drops from 100% to 98% very fast , just after i unplug it from charger and start using it , then the rate of decrease becomes normal and according to usage ?
the trend nowadays is that the phones stays long time on 100% than it should then starts dropping like the iphones do , but on the s10+ it is totally the opposite !
also i had very good standby drain the first day of use , then yesterday which is the 2nd day of use the battery dropped about 5% in just 4 or 5 Hours sleep and the phone is in airplane mode ! but anyway the phone states that it is still learning the usage patters of me to adjust to it & to optimize the apps.
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AOD type of apps also get counted in SOT, such as Always On Edge.
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This is not true

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I am getting about 3200mAh, which is concerning to say at least since it is a brand new device.
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Jusr for info, after watching a teardown video I realized he battery is actually 3835mah not 4000 !
Accubattery is not that accurate.
So when I charge my phone 20-80% it shows 2900mAh is the battery capacity. And when I charge it 0-100% it shows 3900
I don't think it is about accubattery not doing its job. I think it is because our phones don't show us the true values of percentages - and that is what the app is using to approximate battery capacity.
It's like from 0 to 20 percent it can hold charge as it would (if measured accurately) from 0 to 30 and from 50 to 65 as it would from 50 to 65 - using numbers just 4 example..
Anyways, its good too see some data shared so we can compare.
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Post your capacity readings from Accubattery app here.
I am getting about 3200mAh, which is concerning to say at least since it is a brand new device.
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with just 2 readings over 40% reloading accubattery readings are pretty much worthless, you need several 80%+ charges (even better 100%) charges to get the a somewhat accurate reading.
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Jusr for info, after watching a teardown video I realized he battery is actually 3835mah not 4000 !View attachment 5396585
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You are confusing typical and rated.
Typical is the "physical" capacity of the battery from 100 to 0% at 3.87V.
Rated is according to what the manufacture expects it to be the operating conditions, that includes discharge rate (C), actual voltage it needs to supply, temperature etc.
So this battery has 4000mAh, but inside this phone under conditions deemed normal operation range it will deliver ~3800mAh.
For some reason , the battery health is 94%. First time I've seen health scores below 100%.
Same here, I get around 3300mah for charges between 40—60%

			
				
As you can see below the results are quite good. Got 34h runtime with over 4h SOT.
The battery is still showed as small.
I did install the latest update, set preferred 3g (i have wifi almost everywhere and for background sync 3g is more than enough), and switched on battery saver in developer options (no idea if that helps).
I think the accubattery estimations are wrong because it shows the wrong charging current. The phone has 30W and Accu shows 4,8A and 3,9V which is around 20W.
This is very poor battery life.
1 day 10 hours idle is ok.
But 4hours screen time to 1% is extremely weak. 6-8 hours minimum expected in 2021
i was hoping to buy this phone as it's the only compact 5.9" phone but the CPU is just too high.
They need a weaker, less power using CPU version like snapdragon 760 midranger or even a lower spec 8 series snap.
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This is very poor battery life.
1 day 10 hours idle is ok.
But 4hours screen time to 1% is extremely weak. 6-8 hours minimum expected in 2021
i was hoping to buy this phone as it's the only compact 5.9" phone but the CPU is just too high.
They need a weaker, less power using CPU version like snapdragon 760 midranger or even a lower spec 8 series snap.
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This is not a good summary. 34h idle eats up around 60% so the SOT of 4h was only on 40% which is very good. When I use the phone more intensively I have around 14h use with 6h SOT. If you'd just use it purely with screen on you'd get over 7h SOT continuously.
For me the phone is enough - I get whole day off normal usage. There aren't any flagship specced phones that will get me through 2 days.
But you're right about the SOC - I would be happy with a 780 or 870 instead as I have no idea where I can use the power! But but 5.2, possibility of 5G, quicker photo processing have to stay.
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This is not a good summary. 34h idle eats up around 60% so the SOT of 4h was only on 40% which is very good. When I use the phone more intensively I have around 14h use with 6h SOT. If you'd just use it purely with screen on you'd get over 7h SOT continuously.
For me the phone is enough - I get whole day off normal usage. There aren't any flagship specced phones that will get me through 2 days.
But you're right about the SOC - I would be happy with a 780 or 870 instead as I have no idea where I can use the power! But but 5.2, possibility of 5G, quicker photo processing have to stay.
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Thanka.can you advise did you try the magisk module to modify the power profiles??
I'm curious what battery life you can get on the durable / ultra durable setting the developer made which limits cpu
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Thanka.can you advise did you try the magisk module to modify the power profiles??
I'm curious what battery life you can get on the durable / ultra durable setting the developer made which limits cpu
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No, I didn't play with any modding.
I have enabled power save in dev options. And I have auto ultra durable after 10pm. I just say that I can't see any difference in performance between this and dynamic. I have it still on 90hz as i changed the defaults.
From my experience the two things that kill the battery are AOD and location, but that's based on old firmware so maybe it's improved
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This is not a good summary. 34h idle eats up around 60% so the SOT of 4h was only on 40% which is very good. When I use the phone more intensively I have around 14h use with 6h SOT. If you'd just use it purely with screen on you'd get over 7h SOT continuously.
For me the phone is enough - I get whole day off normal usage. There aren't any flagship specced phones that will get me through 2 days.
But you're right about the SOC - I would be happy with a 780 or 870 instead as I have no idea where I can use the power! But but 5.2, possibility of 5G, quicker photo processing have to stay.
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I'd be happy if they use 870 instead of 888 but need to swap the main camera sensor from IMX686 with IMX766 to compensate with lower spec ISP..but that is just me =)
I got the ZF8 on Thursday afternoon and returned it on Saturday morning.
Something must be messed up with the way the phone is charging, or the battery is crap or a lot lower capacity than advertised.
I've been using the app for quite some years now, and never has it ever shown such a big difference in capacity after the first couple of charges.
I have reinstalled OOS on my 2 years old now OP7, and after first charge it reports 3300mAh out of 3800mAh originally, which is consistent with what I was getting on a few months installation of PE.
I installed it a few months back on my wife's S20FE and it was bang on with the reported capacity on the first charge.
I installed it on ZF8, and for a 20-100% charge it was saying 3087mAh out of 4000mAh. So 77% after the first charge, and it remained like that after the second. Too much of a difference to think nothing is wrong.
I'm sorry, I liked the phone and the size so much, but the battery lasted more or less about 75% of what my 2 year old OP7 lasts.
I am getting 3250 mAh in AccuBattery but I am using the special battery technology provided by Asus which charges the last 20 % very slowly. I think this crashes AccuBattery.
After 20 days of usage I get around 6,5 hours of screen time (fully charged) and I get through the day (from morning to morning) without any issues.
I've used the Galaxy s10e which provided lousy 3,5 h SOT which lead me to charging it 3 to 4 times a day.
Coming from bull**** to the Zenfone 8, I am quite happy - Especially since all the updates must have increased SOT dramatically.
This is what I've found too, that capping the battery charge at 80% makes accubattery think that the phone only has 80% of its health.
Same here, when I Drained the phone to 0 and charged to 100, accubattery showed 3950mAh, and when I Limit the charge to 80% it sits around 3000 mAh
I've found something at reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/zenfone8/comments/oxxwon
It puts up this guide from accubattery:
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/213575425-How-to-manually-benchmark-your-battery-health

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