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Does anyone know why the One might behave differently on a car USB charger compared to a Galaxy S3?
I noticed my One was charging slowly or not at all when in the car. Using the power stat screen in the SystemPanelLite free version it shows the One is only connected at USB charge power, not "AC" power. However if I plug this same cable into my old Galaxy S3 it shows in SystemPanelLite that it is charging at full AC speed. I tried both the One and S3 default charging cables, no difference.
I'm using a car charger rated to put out enough amps for full speed charging, and it works great with the S3. With my One I tested it just plugging it into the charger that came with it (AC outlet, not in the car) and only then do I get full AC charging speed.
Anyone have ideas on how to get full AC charging speed on the One in the car? Any suggested car chargers confirmed to charge at full speed?
quick charge is disabled. you also need to make sure the charger is at least 1A @ 5V.
On previous HTC phones, I'm led to believe that the data pins on the USB connection are shorted inside the charger, and that's how it detects AC vs USB. It's not AC arriving at the phone of course, in reality it's 5VDC, with "AC" it draws 1A vs 0.5A for USB.
If the USB cable is not wired appropriately, the HTC One will slow charge so that it doesn't draw more than the USB standard 500 mA. Your charger needs to be wired accordingly so that the HTC One knows that the charger is capable of supplying more current, otherwise the device won't pull the extra current to fast charge. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844284 for details.
Benpope and rumball have correctly answered.
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Will this charger work with the HTC One @ 1A? http://shopamerica.htc.com/product/productpop.htm?prId=41645
Well at this point I'm looking for anyone who can confirm they have a car charger/cable combo working with the One that will charge at or near 1 amp.
I don't think my cable is at fault since I've tried multiple ones, including the AC one that came with the One.
Although my current car charger worked great with my GS3, I guess the One is more picky. So can anyone recommend one that will definitely do 1 amp with the One?
the data function on the car kit cable doesnt work as well...plugged into computer and charges but nothing else (to bad to, liked the length of the cord)
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On previous HTC phones, I'm led to believe that the data pins on the USB connection are shorted inside the charger, and that's how it detects AC vs USB. It's not AC arriving at the phone of course, in reality it's 5VDC, with "AC" it draws 1A vs 0.5A for USB.
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This is right, I had same issues with s3, resolved by buying a genuine Samsung charger. Before my Google maps drained more than it could charge. What's odd is that the s3 charges fine on his cable, unless different pins are shorted on an htc?
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This one will work with HTC One
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=246652&phone=246667
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paul_59 said:
This one will work with HTC One
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=246652&phone=246667
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Have you used it and confirmed it charges the One at "AC" speeds?
Hello guys,
I lost yesterday my charger, and i can't find any charger seller.
I am not going to import a new charger yet, in the meanwhile a friend who has a moto x too told me that the Moto X has a power of
5v and 1150 mAh
Charging with original cable to a PC via usb is too slow
i have an Alcatel (5V - 400mA)
PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA)
I tried to investigate by my own, but the more i learn i get more confused..
Which one should i use to charge my Moto X?
Alcatel or Vita?
Thanks in advance
fellhound said:
Hello guys,
I lost yesterday my charger, and i can't find any charger seller.
I am not going to import a new charger yet, in the meanwhile a friend who has a moto x too told me that the Moto X has a power of
5v and 1150 mAh
Charging with original cable to a PC via usb is too slow
i have an Alcatel (5V - 400mA)
PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA)
I tried to investigate by my own, but the more i learn i get more confused..
Which one should i use to charge my Moto X?
Alcatel or Vita?
Thanks in advance
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http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-batteries-chargers/Duo-Rapid-Charger/duo-rapid-charger.html
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http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-batteries-chargers/Duo-Rapid-Charger/duo-rapid-charger.html
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They don't even export to South America, i will end paying $100 bucks if i use a miami pobox, il wait until motorola local store brings original chargers.
Thanks but as i said, i can't buy/import a new charger at this moment only have:
- Alcatel charger (5V - 400mA with it's own microusb cable)
- PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA with the original cable)
Yet i am afraid to damage my cellphone or it's battery.
=(
fellhound said:
...I am not going to import a new charger yet, in the meanwhile a friend who has a moto x too told me that the Moto X has a power of
5v and 1150 mAh
Charging with original cable to a PC via usb is too slow
i have an Alcatel (5V - 400mA)
PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA)
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A USB/USB2.0 port will output 5V 500mA (and in some cases 550mA).
The less current the charger outputs, the slower it will charge the phone, which is why charging via cable to USB port on PC is so slow. If the phone really needs 1000 or 1150mA to charge, then using a 500-500mA charger might not even be able to maintain the current battery level.
In most cases, the output rating on the charger is the voltage (V) and max current (mA) the adapter can supply.
While you must match the Voltage and do NOT exceed the rated Voltage of the original charger, usually it is acceptable to use a higher current charger as the phones will draw as much current as they need without exceeding the max output of the charger.
I charged phones and headsets that shipped with 550mA chargers using 750, 850 and even 1000mA chargers just fine. And I use a 1000mA(1A) and 850mA chargers to charge my X at the moment.
So you should be able to charge via the PS Vita charger.
as long as the charger can supply enough amps it will charge the phone fine or at a slower rate.
amps are like the flowrate of a pipe. if you have a charger with a lower amp rating than the phone can take in, it will just atke in less. if your charger is more than the max, the phone will just take the max it can and there will be no harm.
if you watn to be sure a charger can charge your phone at its top speed just buy one for an ipad or a tablet as they are usuall over 1AMP and up to 2AMP.
i dont think the moto x even draws the full 1150ma, just the charger itcomes with has 2 USB ports so its a heavier duty phone charger
I'm using a galaxy s4 2amp charger and it works wonderfully. Fastest OEM amperage and a nice long USB cable.
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Hi all,
I am from India and i just brought a new moto x(1st gen). I dont get a charger with the box. please anybody suggest me a gud charger. is our moto x supports turbo charging ???
You mention both 1st gen and 2nd Gen in your post. Which phone are you looking to get a charger for?
The 1st Gen (aka 2013) Moto X ships with a 1.15A (aka 1150mA) charger. Neither the phone, nor the charger support Turbo Charging. Standard 1A (aka 1000mA) or higher chargers with MicroUSB ends will work to charge it.
I don't have a 2nd Gen (2014) Moto X. But it and its included charger DO support turbo charging. As far as I know, you need a special charger that is compatible with Turbo charging if you want to make use of that feature. But standard 1A (1000mA) and up chargers will work to charge it at "regular" rates.
aside from the fact that we dont yet know which model you have to give you avalid answer this post belongs into the Q&A section
I've seen variation in charge times...
When i use a 1.2 Amp charger ... i can go from 10% to fully charged in ~1 hour . I have a Moto X (XT1053)
My partner has model : XT1052, and it doesn't charge as quickly - I'm not sure if it is because it is the wrong voltage (European model phone). i think Fast charge can be turned on or off at kernel level. Not sure about this however.
I think he is talking about the moto x 1st gen from flipkart which is available for Rs 18000 but without the adapter
Ptikjp said:
I've seen variation in charge times...
When i use a 1.2 Amp charger ... i can go from 10% to fully charged in ~1 hour . I have a Moto X (XT1053)
My partner has model : XT1052, and it doesn't charge as quickly - I'm not sure if it is because it is the wrong voltage (European model phone). i think Fast charge can be turned on or off at kernel level. Not sure about this however.
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If by "fast charge" you mean "turbo charge" like on the new X, that is a function of the new Qualcomm chip used in the 2nd Gen X. See -> https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
As for the XT1053 vs XT1052 charging speed, they both take 5 Volt input which is standard for USB ports and MicroUSB chargers. The speed difference you are seeing could be due to the current supplied by the adapters (i.e. if your adapter is 1.2A and your partner uses a 750mA), OR if there are different apps running on the phone while charging. Example, if Google Maps/Navigation is running on the phone, it will charger slower than if GMaps/Navigation wasn't running.
KidJoe said:
As for the XT1053 vs XT1052 charging speed, they both take 5 Volt input which is standard for USB ports and MicroUSB chargers. The speed difference you are seeing could be due to the current supplied by the adapters (i.e. if your adapter is 1.2A and your partner uses a 750mA), OR if there are different apps running on the phone while charging. Example, if Google Maps/Navigation is running on the phone, it will charger slower than if GMaps/Navigation wasn't running.
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I've found that some cables will not let the full current through that the charger is rated for. In not sure if it's due to voltage drop our what though, as I don't care enough to dig into it further.
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I have a moto xt1080 .i have no charger plz suggest me a charger
Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
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Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
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No indication.
but it is faster, I ran my 2.1a charger against it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-charge-time-test-moto-turbo-t2948176
DieGo316 said:
The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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Well i used my N5 cable that came with the charger and didn't even notice the difference, changed back to the moto one because i don't like the glossy look on the LG one.
By any chance you tried using your cable in your car?? Did it charged?? I tried to use mine in my car and didn't work, I got a 2014 corolla maybe it's because of the small battery in the car, I really dunno. It's weird.
Yes I too would like to know what charges and cords work correctly...
TheSopranos16 said:
I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full.
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UPDATE: Okay, this worked... sort of. Well, it definitely worked, but it wasn't quite so simple. My phone was at about 71% charge, and I put it on the Moto Turbo Charger. A minute later, it said it had about 25 minutes remaining for a full charge. I removed it, and placed it on my Nexus 7 charger (which, incidentally, is only a 1.2A charger, but it proved the point). It took over 5 minutes to show the "charge complete in..." message, in which it indicated it would take over two hours. I guess, you could consider the extended wait time a sign, but something NOT happening is always a really bad way to prove something. Still, once it DID show, 25m vs 2h is definitely a good measure.
The weird thing is... it took about 5 minutes to show that message on the 1.2A charger, during which, the charge increased from 71% to 74%. Assuming a similar 3% increase every 5 minutes, it should reach its full charge in about 45 minutes, not the two hours it stated. Since this was only a 1.2A charger, a 2A charger could do it in almost half that time, or about the 25 minutes that was initially reported. Still, I was at 71%, and at that level, the Turbo Charger may not shift into 9V or 12V modes, so I guess that seemed about right.
I'd still like to see an app that could tell me instantly or, at least, within a few seconds, but this is definitely an alternative. Although, you still really need to test it while the battery is pretty low, but at least it stops the necessity to time a full charge.
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
marctronixx said:
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
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Great app. I use the free version just to check battery flow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
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TheSopranos16 said:
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
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You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
Skripka said:
Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
i use and watch the current widget. the nexus 6 default charger has nearly 2450mV coming in at a certain point of its charging cycle! no other charger will do that for you, i dont think.
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the current widget https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
op brings up a very good point that i didnt realize before. on my note 4, when you plug in the nexus 6 moto turbo charger or any other quick charge 2.0 charger a window pops up explaining adaptive fast charging. you can dismiss it and make it never show up again. you also get an "adaptive fast charger connected" notification in the notification bar. these are very good things. on nexus 6? nothing...
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
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Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
Skripka said:
Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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yes
http://www.verizonwireless.com/acce...er-with-fast-charge-technology-for-micro-usb/
Skripka said:
Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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Actually, most vehicle power outlets have a 10A or 20A fuse (cigarette lighters tend to be on the lower end, while power outlets tend to be on the upper end), and operate at 12V. Even at the lower 10A range, that's 120W of power. Traditional USB Car adapters step that down to 5V at up to 2A, or about 10W of power. The QC. 2.0 standard allows for 3A at 5V, 9V, or 12V, for a maximum of 15W, 27W, or 36W respectively. That's well below what your car can handle. Not to mention that none of the existing adapters even come close to that amperage. Most that I've seen only run at 5V or 9V, at 1.67A. That only 15W at 9V.
So... to answer your question. Yes, QC 2.0 vehicle adapters exist (check out Amazon), and no, they won't even come close to hitting the power ceiling of your car's cigarette lighter / power outlet.
Ooh! I like that Verizon car adapter. That LED at the connector would really come in handy! Thanks, @indianajonze!
stbxxl said:
You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
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You can also use an AC meter such as Kill a Watt
http://www.p3international.com/products/p4400.html
Which might be more useful to have around the house. You should see the charger drawing about 5W for standard 1A USB charger, 10W for 2A and up to 14-15W for turbo. The battery widgets others have mentioned work great too.
I have an old quick charge 2.0 car and wall charger. I know they won't work with dash but I'm just double checking to make sure they're safe and won't damage my OP3T. Seeing as how the phone accepts 4a (I think) I'm pretty sure 2.4 in will be fine. Thanks in advance!
same Q, I have a QC 2.0 and normal charger, not sure if putting 2.0 or normal charge apart from the dash charge?
It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
supersomething said:
It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
rockmaster said:
What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
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If I am not mistaken, most of the newer usb cables are rated at 2.1-2.4A for charging. But if you want to be safe I would suggest you take notice of what the cables are rated at. For me personally, I always follow the rules of not using lower rated cables on higher rated input.
Any high quality charger will work just fine with OnePlus, although Dash Charge will turn on ONLY will OnePlus/OPPO dash charger and official USB cable. So you are limited to lower (non dash charge) speed.
QC 1/2/3, Turbo charge, Super charge, Dash charge.. adapters are safe to use with any phone, fast charging will not engage if the phone doesnt support it.
I recommend checking this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Cool beans, sounds like I'm good to go. I'm using whatever cable the charger came with and a USB C adapter from Aukey. Works just fine! Not really too concerned about dash charge since it's sitting bedside or in the car for road trips. Thanks!
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
karthics4 said:
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
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Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
I use my 6 ft Nexus 6P charger as my primary and in my car I have my iOrange cable with a Maxboost 2.0 & 2.4 car charger
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Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
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Thanks so much, had been w android for years, might go otherside and get iphone as i see a lot at work. i just feel left out. but then i think of the deadly iphone not charging due to 3rd party cable mesage which pops up and then wanna stay w andorid