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Moto X (can bootloader be unlocked)

Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny

vinnyjr said:
Thinking about the Moto X, the GSM edition, not the developer edition because I understand the developer version comes in white back and black front. I want all white Moto X. So because I am not getting the developer edition can I still unlock the bootloader??? I tried checking before asking this and could not find the answer.
Thanks, Vinny
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it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).

sleepyguy007 said:
it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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Thanks for the fast reply. Great information.
Vinny

If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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wturner859 said:
If you're asking if the BOOTLOADER can be unlocked, as of right now, no.
If you're asking about carrier unlock, then you can go by sleepy guys answer.
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Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.

I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"

I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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pjcordi said:
I have a Fido Canada version of this phone and I'm trying to unlock the boot loader but it tells me I'm not eligible . i know the my phone is the same as rogers. Why am I not able to?
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Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader, obviously Fido hasn't given them the OK, see if you can return it and pick up the rogers version at full price and use your Fido Sim card,you shouldn't have to Sim unlock as we all know Rogers is Fido's parent company
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Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Basically the problem is some carriers are not giving their imei lists to Motorola to have those phones in the unlock program. Thats probably why there are some Latin America units that can't unlock

pjcordi said:
Okay well my phone is on contract. Im pretty sure the Rogers and Fido phone are the exact same. I don't think they would trade mine in for a rogers. Is there any other way to unlock the boot loader? Will there be one in the future?
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Being Fido makes no difference, it runs the Rogers firmware and is unlockable. Its looking like several people have tried to unlock bootloaders today(including me) and the Motorola website has said they are not eligible. So my conclusion at this point is that the backend server that handles the codes is down/broken.

sleepyguy007 said:
it depends.
if you buy the t-mobile one on motorola.com its unlockable. if you get the at&t one it is not unlockable.
if you buy a rogers canada one its unlockable. if you buy a telcel or claro latin america unit they are unlockable. if you buy a mexico nextel GSM one it is not unlockable (some people are holding out hope that its a mistake and will have its IMEIs added to the unlock list..).
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For the Nextel Mexico XT1053, It has been confirmed that is a mistake as can be seen in this thread on Motorola's Website. They are working the issue, but it may take more time.

GoClifGo05 said:
Well, it's not a "no." Like the poster said above, it depends on your carrier. VZW and ATT are a no go.
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Wrong. I contacted Moto. The GSM unlocked version is NOT bootloader unlockable. My unlock code does not work. I am sending it back.

neotenshi said:
I have a Latin America Moto X (Movistar Chile), but when I try to unlock the bootloader, the Motorola Page throws me "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
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flashallthetime said:
Carrier needs to provide Motorola with the OK to allow the unlocking the bootloader,
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^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215

As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
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KidJoe said:
^^^^ This...
If the carrier doesn't want Moto to let you unlock, you can't. Motorola's web site for unlocking will tell you your device doesn't qualify and there is nothing you can do.
Moto's web site does list some information on carriers and which can be unlocked. See -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
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The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
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As far as which motos that can not be unlocked 2 are unable, Verizon and AT&T consumer versions, all other motos have the unlockable boot loader to date.
If you have attempted to unlock and get ineligible, then your imei has not yet been entered into motos system. When calling the "not the Sharpe's knifes in the drawer" folks at moto, please establish what you wish to unlock your BOOT LOADER not SIM UNLOCKED because they normally ASSume the sim
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Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.

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attn1 said:
The off contract, GSM unlocked phone has nothing to do with carrier's wishes. I have this phone with an activated TMO sim and it is not eligible for unlock, period. This is sold directly by Motorola and is supplied with a TMO sim. TMO has no issue with bootloader unlocks, so it's not the carrier - this model is not bootloader unlockable.
Been there, done that. I was told by Moto that my off contract, unlocked full price GSM Moto X shipped with the Tmobile sim is not bootloader unlockable. The two people I spoke with fully understood the difference between sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked, and also knew that bootloader unlocking automatically voids the warranty except on the Developer version.
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So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet

flashallthetime said:
So your situation is totally different than any other situation, normally T-Mobile phones are unlockable, so Motorola has itself made your unlockable
Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet
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Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.

attn1 said:
Update: Moto just sent me a note saying that their system may not be updated with my IMEI yet, but once it is, the warranty is automatically and uncategorically voided when I apply for the unlock code. Since it's the 32GB version, I'll still RMA it and get the Developer version instead. It's the exact same money and unlocking the developer version does not void the warranty.
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So the 2 idiots you spoke to are wrong, you can unlock
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Unlocked AT&T S5

Hey everyone, I am about to pay full retail price for the S5 through AT&T which means it will be unlocked.
Question is...any root method or exploits that work for the international version also apply to the AT&T model?

Nope, paying full price for an "Unlocked AT&T" model, means it's carrier unlocked, bootloader is still locked down on all AT&T branded S5's. If your paying full price and want root, you should just buy an unlocked T-Mobile version from somewhere like swappa.com, supports AT&T frequencies and the bootloader comes unlocked.

It would be nice if XDA had a "Glossary of Terms" in the wiki that explained terms that are used often like"bootloader unlocked" and "carrier unlocked". Maybe, it wouldn't make much difference, but the some words and terms are often confused and are explained again. It might be easier to just link to the glossary.
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Keep in mind the phones aren't usually unlocked (carrier unlocked) at the point of sale and you'll have to submit an unlock request once you've bought it.. As a side note, I highly recommend buying the T-Mobile version, as it's compatible with at&t and DOES have the bootloader unlocked by default. There's really no reason to buy the at&t version if you're buying at full price.

kevinco1 said:
Hey everyone, I am about to pay full retail price for the S5 through AT&T which means it will be unlocked.
Question is...any root method or exploits that work for the international version also apply to the AT&T model?
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If you are going to pay full price, just go to T-Mobile store and by the T-Mo version which comes with an unlocked bootloader and supports all AT&T frequencies, then just replace your back cover for an unbranded or at&T branded one.
the AT&T one will not get Root anytime soon.

Bootloader unlocked?

Do we have confirmation anywhere if the bootloader is unlocked on the T-Mobile Note 4?

dkotoric said:
Do we have confirmation anywhere if the bootloader is unlocked on the T-Mobile Note 4?
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Haven't seen anything yet, but if T-Mobile's history is any consolation, it should come unlocked. Almost all their phones are.

We can confidently say "yes" according to the past records.

siraltus said:
Haven't seen anything yet, but if T-Mobile's history is any consolation, it should come unlocked. Almost all their phones are.
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I was thinking about buying the T-Mobile version and putting it on attor Verizon will that be doable?

swordmastr54 said:
I was thinking about buying the T-Mobile version and putting it on attor Verizon will that be doable?
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will not work on Verizon maybe after an unlock process complete you can

swordmastr54 said:
I was thinking about buying the T-Mobile version and putting it on attor Verizon will that be doable?
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AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.

Non locked bootloader
I called samsung today and spoke with a lady and she said that T-mobile has no plans of locking the bootloaders nor does samsung, and that locking bootloaders is solely on the carrier. So, I assume, we can have free reign over our bad a$$ note 4 on T-Mobile... I made the switch to them today from ATT...

I hope the BL is unlocked....I got the z1s and its been damn near depressing to see a device with so much potential be crippled by a locked BL....And its the only reason I'm making the jump to the N4...If the BL is locked on the N4 then I'm opting for the Nexus 6

CZ Eddie said:
AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.
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Thanks for the information on the TMO --> AT&T. I will be using it!

now that some people have the actual note 4 in hand has it been confirmed that the boot loader is unlocked?

dkotoric said:
now that some people have the actual note 4 in hand has it been confirmed that the boot loader is unlocked?
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I would love to know the answer to this as well.

I see there is a root guide over in TMOB Android Development for root. Doesn't that mean that the boot loader mst be unlocked? I have not tried it yet myself as I was waiting for a SIM unlock and TWRP or CWM first.

Flame Red said:
I see there is a root guide over in TMOB Android Development for root. Doesn't that mean that the boot loader mst be unlocked? I have not tried it yet myself as I was waiting for a SIM unlock and TWRP or CWM first.
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no it does not, att and verizon note 3 got root and both had locked bootloaders

We can confirm that Bootloader is unlocked. People have rooted using Chainfire's auto root. Since that method requires an unlocked bootloader, it is 100% confirmed that the bootloader is unlocked.
YAY!!!!

idtheftvictim said:
We can confirm that Bootloader is unlocked. People have rooted using Chainfire's auto root. Since that method requires an unlocked bootloader, it is 100% confirmed that the bootloader is unlocked.
YAY!!!!
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Can confirm. CF-autorooted mine. Bootloader is unlocked.

See the other threads so we don't make duplicates
NOTE 4

CZ Eddie said:
AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.
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You getting lte?

ratchetjaw said:
You getting lte?
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Of course, we all are. Just do a little search. There are threads in all the ATT S3, S4, S5, Note 2 forums including a 700+ post thread in the Note 3 forum.

mircury said:
Of course, we all are. Just do a little search. There are threads in all the ATT S3, S4, S5, Note 2 forums including a 700+ post thread in the Note 3 forum.
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Okay good. I know it has in the past I am using a T-Mobile G3 with great lte on AT&T but wanted to know for sure

What is the model number of the T Mobile Note 4 that fits this description? Also curious if the Verizon Developer Edition fits this description despite my not being able to find one anywhere.
Does a comprehensive list exist anywhere that shows what USA Carrier branded phones, by make and model, that can and cannot be made to work on carriers which they were not originally branded?
CZ Eddie said:
AT&T yes, see my sig.
Verizon?? Well, VZW is CDMA and TMO is GSM. So it won't work on VZW unless the phone is dual GSM and CDMA.
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flash stock firmware on Verizon variant

Hello all, is it possibly to Odin stock firmware on Verizon variant?

Yes. it wont carrier unlock your phone though

me2151 said:
Yes. it wont carrier unlock your phone though
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Thought Verizon phones were already carrier unlocked?
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dottat said:
Thought Verizon phones were already carrier unlocked?
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If you buy a phone through a carrier its generally not unlocked. Verizon might be different

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If you buy a phone through a carrier its generally not unlocked. Verizon might be different
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Yep so when I supported Verizon devices the one thing that always struck me odd was how many went overseas and out of the us. It was because they were sim unlocked from get go.
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If you buy a phone through a carrier its generally not unlocked. Verizon might be different
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Verizon phones are always carrier unlocked by default. It has something to do with an agreement they sign with the fcc back in the day. All 4g lte phones have to be unlocked by default for Verizon.

dottat said:
Yep so when I supported Verizon devices the one thing that always struck me odd was how many went overseas and out of the us. It was because they were sim unlocked from get go.
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TechBSwift said:
Verizon phones are always carrier unlocked by default. It has something to do with an agreement they sign with the fcc back in the day. All 4g lte phones have to be unlocked by default for Verizon.
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Interesting. Thanks for this info. TIL.

On a slightly similar topic, I have a Verizon Note 8 (that is unlocked, already checked with my t-mobile sim), and I wanted to verify a couple of things. If I were to flash, via odin, the stock non-carrier firmware, will it basically be the same as what you would get from Samsung (i.e. an unlocked note 8)? The main reason I ask, is there are various flashing processes on xda, from unlocked firmware, carrier firmware (which I assume is refereed to as stock in certain xda threads), and carrier switching. Is the carrier switching processes only required when you want to specifically run the carrier firmware? (and thus changing the csc value). If you already have a carrier branded sim unlocked note 8, all one needs to do (to make sure it works as any other unlocked note 8) is to install the Samsung unlocked firmware?
In other words, if I flash the stock unlocked Samsung firmware on my sim unlocked Verizon note 8, will it work on t-mobile with all of the supported bands, etc.? (it is my understanding that carrier features on t-mobile work fine on unlocked samsung phones, such as wifi calling, volte, etc.) Or would I also need to load the userdata file to get those features?
I have searched and read so many threads, and sometimes I feel like I got it all figured out, and then I read threads that seem to confuse the whole situation.... (and most threads seem to be revolving around carrier branded vs an unlocked phone, or sim unlocking a carrier branded phone)

Verizon Note 9 on AT&T

If I get a Verizon note 9 can I just pop an Att sim into it and it will work. I know there may be differences between voice and data but Basically is the Verizon NOTE9 GSM unlocked like past Galaxy phones were?
I read a Verizon forum where the Verizon rep said that the note 9 is GSM unlocked but she said AFTER it has been activated on Verizon.
To make matters more confusing she linked to a Verizon page that basically said all Verizon's post pay phones are GSM 4G unlocked (nothing about activation first).
Anyone can help me here? Thinking of getting a cheap one of eBay to use mainly overseas and ATT or wherever else.

Yes. The Verizon models are unlocked. And it's the same exact hardware as the ATT version. My recommendation is to flash either the U1 or the ATT firmware though. Otherwise you'll get the Verizon boot animation and Verizon bloatware.
The ATT firmware will allow you to use WiFi calling and VOLTE.
The unlocked U1 firmware will be clean and have no carrier bloat.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Yes. The Verizon models are unlocked. And it's the same exact hardware as the ATT version. My recommendation is to flash either the U1 or the ATT firmware though. Otherwise you'll get the Verizon boot animation and Verizon bloatware.
The ATT firmware will allow you to use WiFi calling and VOLTE.
The unlocked U1 firmware will be clean and have no carrier bloat.
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Thanks for your answer. I will have to read up more on the Flashing and U1 firmware!
I see now that on ebay that some say verizon unlocked and some say verizon locked and some of the verizons up for sale dont specify (but in the item detail it says locked or contract)... This makes things more confusing.
I have always bought verizon phones for the unlocked gsm. I did read that verizon was going to stop having them unlocked....this is my main fear.
So what you're saying, is that the verizon note 9 is 100% gsm unlocked? sorry to ask again.

Henhen59 said:
Thanks for your answer. I will have to read up more on the Flashing and U1 firmware!
I see now that on ebay that some say verizon unlocked and some say verizon locked and some of the verizons up for sale dont specify (but in the item detail it says locked or contract)... This makes things more confusing.
I have always bought verizon phones for the unlocked gsm. I did read that verizon was going to stop having them unlocked....this is my main fear.
So what you're saying, is that the verizon note 9 is 100% gsm unlocked? sorry to ask again.
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I'm also looking for that definitive answer as I want to get the Verizon Note 9 for overseas use. I read that it will be unlocked after activation as they were having armed robberies at stores and other inventory locations. I was going to buy the Sprint model but it cost almost $150 to unlock.

Henhen59 said:
Thanks for your answer. I will have to read up more on the Flashing and U1 firmware!
I see now that on ebay that some say verizon unlocked and some say verizon locked and some of the verizons up for sale dont specify (but in the item detail it says locked or contract)... This makes things more confusing.
I have always bought verizon phones for the unlocked gsm. I did read that verizon was going to stop having them unlocked....this is my main fear.
So what you're saying, is that the verizon note 9 is 100% gsm unlocked? sorry to ask again.
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djohne said:
I'm also looking for that definitive answer as I want to get the Verizon Note 9 for overseas use. I read that it will be unlocked after activation as they were having armed robberies at stores and other inventory locations. I was going to buy the Sprint model but it cost almost $150 to unlock.
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Verizon started that with the Pixel 3, after the Note 9. The Note 9's from Verizon are unlocked. Even with the Pixel 3, once it was activated with a Verizon SIM, it was then automatically carrier unlocked. So if you buy a used VZW Note 9 from eBay, its already been activated on Verizon, so no worries.
Just be careful buying off eBay. If its still under contract and the seller stops making payments, it will be blacklisted.

Why buy a Verizon version to use on AT&T?
What is the advantage over getting an AT&T or carrier unlocked version?

pizza_pablo said:
Why buy a Verizon version to use on AT&T?
What is the advantage over getting an AT&T or carrier unlocked version?
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They buy on Verizon because Verizon offers better deals. Then they want to use the devices on other networks. But since Note only has A firmware, not B, it's an annoying process for those who haven't flashed before.
AS to your second question: ATT doesn't allow Wi-Fi Calling nor voice over LTE on unlocked devices. So many ending putting up with their bloat in order to get those features.

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They buy on Verizon because Verizon offers better deals. Then they want to use the devices on other networks. But since Note only has A firmware, not B, it's an annoying process for those who haven't flashed before.
AS to your second question: ATT doesn't allow Wi-Fi Calling nor voice over LTE on unlocked devices. So many ending putting up with their bloat in order to get those features.
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Huh, I would think any Verizon deal would require using Verizon service.
Thanks!

pizza_pablo said:
Huh, I would think any Verizon deal would require using Verizon service.
Thanks!
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Oh, they do require service. But people either don't read or think they've found some way around it.

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Oh, they do require service. But people either don't read or think they've found some way around it.
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oh ha! Hard to outsmart big red.

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oh ha! Hard to outsmart big red.
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It used to be easier. Verizon would often offer buy one get one free on Samsung and LG devices. You had to sign up for new service and put the phones on a payment plan. But the second phone uses to actually be free, not just bill credits. And you could pay off the first one and cancel your service.
I one time bought four Galaxy S7s when they were brand new, started four lines of service with Verizon, then paid off the phones and cancelled the service. Then I sold all four phones and netted about a thousand dollar profit off the deal.
Did the same thing with the LG G4 with Verizon when they offered $600 prepaid gift cards for each phone you bought.
Now Verizon, like all other carriers, lock you in with bill credits.

As they say, all good things must come to an end.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Verizon started that with the Pixel 3, after the Note 9. The Note 9's from Verizon are unlocked. Even with the Pixel 3, once it was activated with a Verizon SIM, it was then automatically carrier unlocked. So if you buy a used VZW Note 9 from eBay, its already been activated on Verizon, so no worries.
Just be careful buying off eBay. If its still under contract and the seller stops making payments, it will be blacklisted.
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I wanted them for overseas use, actually ended up getting a great deal on 2 ATT note 9s, under $500 each n paid $18 to unlock

Verizon note 9 on AT&T
I'm using an unlocked Verizon note 9 512gb 8gb ram on AT&T and amazingly everything works. Wifi calling, video calling, volte. Even went to UbreakIfix and they installed Android 10 onto the phone. When I put the Sim card into the phone it loaded all the AT&T software on the phone and I was good. The great thing about Verizon unlocked phones are that they have the full CDMA and GSM capabilities so you can use them on any carrier. It wasn't a hassle at all to do.