Possible KNOX Reset Found By NOTE - Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346&page=68
In the NOTE 3 form there is a pretty high bounty getting near 3k. The top post as of right now on the page linked by user mahmoud007
seems to have instruction for resetting KNOX and downgrading to 4.2.2! As I have the Sprint version of the GS4 I cannot test or confirm this but though it was well worth sharing. Especially if someone could try using this users method on our phone dear god I would love it!

LordKoga said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...486346&page=68
In the NOTE 3 form there is a pretty high bounty getting near 3k. The top post as of right now on the page linked by user mahmoud007
seems to have instruction for resetting KNOX and downgrading to 4.2.2! As I have the Sprint version of the GS4 I cannot test or confirm this but though it was well worth sharing. Especially if someone could try using this users method on our phone dear god I would love it!
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From the looks of the article, it seems that the guy who has the solution has trouble writing English. Either way, it's a good thing developers are resolving this.

Clicking that link renders the "invalid forum specified" error.I truly hope this mahmoud007 fellow's theory proves valid and his method works. I just scolded him for cross-posting a hypothetical solution for the S4 i9505 because the reason he cited for not wanting to test his own creation was that he was still under his Manufacturer's Warranty. After I clarified that the KNOX Warranty bit was unrelated to Samsung's service warranty, and asked why he felt it appropriate to request others risk permanently altering their own devices using a method he created and wasn't confident enough to test out on his own, each and every copy of the cross-post vanished within minutes. With luck, some admin wiped them out so his work couldn't be plagiarized before the applicable bounty could be announced.
Good luck, mahmoud. Here's to hoping XDA's senior developers are working with you at this very moment and that you've made history by cracking KNOX.
-Zen

FallenZen said:
Clicking that link renders the "invalid forum specified" error.I truly hope this mahmoud007 fellow's theory proves valid and his method works. I just scolded him for cross-posting a hypothetical solution for the S4 i9505 because the reason he cited for not wanting to test his own creation was that he was still under his Manufacturer's Warranty. After I clarified that the KNOX Warranty bit was unrelated to Samsung's service warranty, and asked why he felt it appropriate to request others risk permanently altering their own devices using a method he created and wasn't confident enough to test out on his own, each and every copy of the cross-post vanished within minutes. With luck, some admin wiped them out so his work couldn't be plagiarized before the applicable bounty could be announced.
Good luck, mahmoud. Here's to hoping XDA's senior developers are working with you at this very moment and that you've made history by cracking KNOX.
-Zen
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Your right his post is gone from the original thread he posted it to..... I really hope it pans out though.

Nothing is gone once it's on the internet. His posts were copied I promise you.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

As a side note the thread is quite interesting and rather active. Lots Of different areas of research. It's only a matter of time before a solution is found,
Sent from my SM-P600 using xda app-developers app

I believe someone was successful in doing it check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500823
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LordKoga said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346&page=68
In the NOTE 3 form there is a pretty high bounty getting near 3k. The top post as of right now on the page linked by user mahmoud007
seems to have instruction for resetting KNOX and downgrading to 4.2.2! As I have the Sprint version of the GS4 I cannot test or confirm this but though it was well worth sharing. Especially if someone could try using this users method on our phone dear god I would love it!
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I would really love getting this removed

From what I read the OP of that that said he was in contact with someone from the s 4 forums. Who that person is idk... Well the soak up. . I sure do hope so because I'm sure a lot of us here at least want some insight to If we are getting closer to getting the devil removed from our bootloader and if we can downgrade
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

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Working InfraRed (IR) on GT-P3113 using U.K. JB ROM

Just figured this out totally by accident! I have the U.S. version of the GTab 2 7.0 GT-P3113, otherwise the one that has built in remote control capabilities via IR blaster. Just to let everyone know that if you flash the U.K. version of the JellyBean ROM listed on this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032683, And do so WITHOUT WIPING DATA, while coming from the STOCK 4.0.4 ROM...
YOU WILL RETAIN IR FUNCTIONALITY!!!
Peel, TouchSquid and others that use this IR port will still function.
I hope this helps at least one other person, and always you can click that little ol' ty button if you'd like to.
Old news and wrong section.
Wait Wait Wait, Would you mind pointing out where this has been covered, I can no longer find the thread. Pls and ty.
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IR should work on all stock based roms.
The issue is with non stock roms such as cm or aokp.
Please search next time before posting.
wired-turtle said:
Yep same ole XDA, only asshats with useless negative comments. Thx for the tip op, and type ****-tionary for reminding me why i never visit this hole anymore. Back to the better community on the site that actually gives help instead of "wrong place" remarks.
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Oh so clever! I told them that this has been covered. I informed him. Then I also let him know its in the wrong section, as this isn't really dev work, but more of a general thing. I'm sorry I don't have the energy to overly explain things to people every time. You can go to your lollipop forum, and leave the xda. It is not my fault that you took it in a negative way. I was not disrespectful to OP at all. If I was, then OP, I won't apologize because I didn't mean it in that way, but please understand I meant nothing ill by it. I didn't say anything rude to op, or you, to warrant your profane language and negative tone.
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mrm0rbid99 said:
Wait Wait Wait, Would you mind pointing out where this has been covered, I can no longer find the thread. Pls and ty.
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It is in a couple of the threads with stock firmwares. People with 3113 tabs flashed 3100 roms and were delighted to discover IR still working. I don't know the exact thread, but it has been covered already. Again, just letting you know it is old news, and you'll be better off posting this in the general section.
There, was that non ahatish enough? I suppose my thanks count means nada, or the multitudes I've helped via PM and email when nobody else would. Meh.
wired-turtle said:
Yep same ole XDA, only asshats with useless negative comments. Thx for the tip op, and type ****-tionary for reminding me why i never visit this hole anymore. Back to the better community on the site that actually gives help instead of "wrong place" remarks.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. Turds.:good:
Ok, I get it, should've gone under general... no need for the 3rd degree, dictionary.
You people are seriously a bunch of wimps if you considered my statements mean or rude. The world has gotten SOFT. I'm done.
the September 18th "leak" fixed the IR issue on the P3113 and any stock based 4.1.1 ROM has since been updated to that base fixing the IR issue, I've been on this section of XDA for less then a month and am aware of this. Perhaps if you have been active here in the last 3 months you might be aware of this. And not being rude but he is right, this is the development section and what you provided belongs on the general section but is frankly unneeded information as it is several months out of date as a proper fix has come out.
You guys seem to have missed the post where I already agreed that this should be under general. Also, I scavenge these forums on a daily basis, If I missed that bit of info where this is already covered, then I missed it's because it was buried in some thread that wasn't specifically covering the topic of the IR port working in non GT-P3113 OEM ROMs. I know a couple of people who've avoided using anything but the stock 4.0.4 simply for fearing the IR port not being able to function.
But that's not the point, not trying to spread old news, just trying to make specific information easier to find, which I believe I've accomplished.
Now if a moderator wants to move/delete this thread, then so be it. I understand this should've gone under general, and I can admit that I put this in the wrong section. That being said, all future posts damning my thread for being in the wrong section, will be considered trolling, which is, of course, not cool.
dictionary said:
You people are seriously a bunch of wimps if you considered my statements mean or rude. The world has gotten SOFT. I'm done.
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Your signature is too long and out of date and so is mine, I'm revising mine, you should do the same.
mrm0rbid99 said:
You guys seem to have missed the post where I already agreed that this should be under general. Also, I scavenge these forums on a daily basis, If I missed that bit of info where this is already covered, then I missed it's because it was buried in some thread that wasn't specifically covering the topic of the IR port working in non GT-P3113 OEM ROMs. I know a couple of people who've avoided using anything but the stock 4.0.4 simply for fearing the IR port not being able to function.
But that's not the point, not trying to spread old news, just trying to make specific information easier to find, which I believe I've accomplished.
Now if a moderator wants to move/delete this thread, then so be it. I understand this should've gone under general, and I can admit that I put this in the wrong section. That being said, all future posts damning my thread for being in the wrong section, will be considered trolling, which is, of course, not cool.
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Wrong section. . Jk. I was referring to the 3rd degree comment, but I digress. Water under the bridge.
Digital, how did you know my gnex broke!? You're psychic! Though every other device under current I do have, lol. I forgot about sigs since I only browse via tapatalk. Will revise it later. At work now and don't feel like editing on mobile.
I admit in my delightment to discover this by accident I posted hastely. Mayen running a JB ROM finally, the performance boost is quite nice, and of course its a perk to have IR functionality, I use it often.
Sorry to hear about your broken device. I wish you quality, cheap repairs!
Sent from my GT-P3110 using xda app-developers app
mrm0rbid99 said:
Just figured this out totally by accident! I have the U.S. version of the GTab 2 7.0 GT-P3113, otherwise the one that has built in remote control capabilities via IR blaster. Just to let everyone know that if you flash the U.K. version of the JellyBean ROM listed on this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032683, And do so WITHOUT WIPING DATA, while coming from the STOCK 4.0.4 ROM...
YOU WILL RETAIN IR FUNCTIONALITY!!!
Peel, TouchSquid and others that use this IR port will still function.
I hope this helps at least one other person, and always you can click that little ol' ty button if you'd like to.
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just change ur build.prop to say its a P3113
Lookin4Twinkies said:
just change ur build.prop to say its a P3113
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Done, works spledidly. Thanks for the idea.

What should we do now?

I rooted my phone using Kingo. It has been perfect. It appears to be totally fine. I get up this morning and find the below comment and closed thread. Do we need to undo root and flash back to stock? Someone please help with this situation. I'm sure a bunch of people did this and would like to know what we should do now. Thanks Devs.
Kingo and vroot have been determined to be malware and unsafe for use, as such all threads will be closed and links removed.
Thank you
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I rooted my phone using Kingo. It has been perfect. It appears to be totally fine. I get up this morning and find the below comment and closed thread. Do we need to undo root and flash back to stock? Someone please help with this situation. I'm sure a bunch of people did this and would like to know what we should do now. Thanks Devs.
Kingo and vroot have been determined to be malware and unsafe for use, as such all threads will be closed and links removed.
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This thread would be more helpful if it had an informative subject line, such as "What to do about Kingo malware?". The subject you provided ("What should we do now?") gives readers no clue what the thread is about.
Anyway, does anyone know how the malware determination was made, and by whom? Does the purported malware afflict the PC that runs the software, the phone that gets rooted, or both?
Also, I notice that the locked Kingo thread in the dev forum only mentions the malware determination in the last post of the thread. Anyone who just reads the initial post, or who doesn't read all the way to the end, will still think the software has been confirmed ok. (I know the download link in the initial post has been removed, but that has little effect since the software is trivially Googled.)
Gary02468 said:
This thread would be more helpful if it had an informative subject line, such as "What to do about Kingo malware?". The subject you provided ("What should we do now?") gives readers no clue what the thread is about.
Anyway, does anyone know how the malware determination was made, and by whom? Does the purported malware afflict the PC that runs the software, the phone that gets rooted, or both?
Also, I notice that the locked Kingo thread in the dev forum only mentions the malware determination in the last post of the thread. Anyone who just reads the initial post, or who doesn't read all the way to the end, will still think the software has been confirmed ok. (I know the download link in the initial post has been removed, but that has little effect since the software is trivially Googled.)
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Looking at it now, I agree with the subject line needing to be a little better.
I was just told by a MOD the following. >
So now that I already have Kingo, what do you think I should do ? Keep it, our undo it? Please let me know, because I dont see anything wrong with it. Phone is working great.
MOD Get rid of it, it steals your information and sends it to remote servers and leaves back doors on your device and pc
MOD Correction, it's thought to do these things
Okay, I will undo it......When I plug my phone back up to PC and run Kingo, it has an Unroot option. Should I do it that way? Or should I look for STOCK files that came with the phone and us Odin to flash it? Thanks for your time.
MOD Stock, don't use the app anymore
If it's really malware (I don't know how that determination was made), any passwords, credit-card or bank-account numbers, etc. on your PC or your phone may have been exposed and should be changed now. Your PC and your phone may need to be disinfected, preferably by clean-installing a known-good system.
Just for future reference, when a company with no known track record offers free, unvetted, closed-source software, it's risky to install it on any system whose integrity you care about. That's especially the case when they claim to be a commercial venture but they say that their product will always be free, and there's no apparent way for them to profit from it.
I still don't know what evidence, if any, shows that this software is malicious. But it seemed blatantly suspicious from the beginning, so I've refrained from installing it.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
MOD Get rid of it, it steals your information and sends it to remote servers and leaves back doors on your device and pc
MOD Correction, it's thought to do these things
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Thought by whom, and on the basis of what evidence, if any?
Gary02468 said:
If it's really malware (I don't know how that determination was made), any passwords, credit-card or bank-account numbers, etc. on your PC or your phone may have been exposed and should be changed now. Your PC and your phone may need to be disinfected, preferably by clean-installing a known-good system.
Just for future reference, when a company with no known track record offers free, unvetted, closed-source software, it's risky to install it on any system whose integrity you care about. That's especially the case when they claim to be a commercial venture but they say that their product will always be free, and there's no apparent way for them to profit from it.
I still don't know what evidence, if any, shows that this software is malicious. But it seemed blatantly suspicious from the beginning, so I've refrained from installing it.
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Thought by whom, and on the basis of what evidence, if any?
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Well lets see here. The Devs and Moderators do a lot here at XDA. We trust them, and we do things to our phones.
Why wouldn't we trust what they say about certain methods? Threads and links being closed. I'm just saying...
Now I really want to make my phone go back to how it was when I bought it.
If there is anybody that's done it, I would love to know how.
It would be great if I could just use Odin with a file and not trip anything and go back. Please help me/others if this is possible.
Im sick to my stomach now. I knew I should of waited. **** !!!
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Well lets see here. The Devs and Moderators do a lot here at XDA. We trust them, and we do things to our phones.
Why wouldn't we trust what they say about certain methods?
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So far, no dev or mod has claimed here to have specific evidence that the software in question is malicious.
Sure, there's reason to be suspicious. But that was already obvious just from looking at the Kingo website.
Gary02468 said:
So far, no dev or mod has claimed here to have specific evidence that the software in question is malicious.
Sure, there's reason to be suspicious. But that was already obvious just from looking at the Kingo website.
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I don't know what to do. I have been rooting and modding phones and other electronics for years and now I feel like it's just not worth it. I trusted XDA and the Devs a lot. Heck a dev said that this way was easier and closed an old thread. So I ran with it and now 2 days later it's closed as well. I'm disappointed
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't know what to do. I have been rooting and modding phones and other electronics for years and now I feel like it's just not worth it. I trusted XDA and the Devs a lot. Heck a dev said that this way was easier and closed an old thread. So I ran with it and now 2 days later it's closed as well. I'm disappointed
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I think you need to look more closely at what it means to trust someone.
I do trust the devs here regarding the integrity of their own software, because their track record gives me evidence that they're trustworthy in that regard. I've flashed ROMs from here many times.
But I don't trust the devs--or anyone in the world--in the sense of automatically believing what they say about everything. I'm sure they wouldn't expect me to.
So if a dev makes an offhand remark that someone else's software (that they have no way of examining) is safe, then of course I'm not going to just take their word for it. And if they make an equally offhand remark that the software is malicious--but fail to mention why they think so--then I'm not going to automatically believe that, either.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I don't know what to do. I have been rooting and modding phones and other electronics for years and now I feel like it's just not worth it. I trusted XDA and the Devs a lot. Heck a dev said that this way was easier and closed an old thread. So I ran with it and now 2 days later it's closed as well. I'm disappointed
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Why don't you reroot using De La Vega by DG? Although his method will wipe your phone back to stock but at least you know it works and it's safe.
Gary02468 said:
I think you need to look more closely at what it means to trust someone.
I do trust the devs here regarding the integrity of their own software, because their track record gives me evidence that they're trustworthy in that regard. I've flashed ROMs from here many times.
But I don't trust the devs--or anyone in the world--in the sense of automatically believing what they say about everything. I'm sure they wouldn't expect me to.
So if a dev makes an offhand remark that someone else's software (that they have no way of examining) is safe, then of course I'm not going to just take their word for it. And if they make an equally offhand remark that the software is malicious--but fail to mention why they think so--then I'm not going to automatically believe that, either.
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I agree man. Thanks for your input, I'm just a little mad. I did pay 399.00 for this and now, I just want it back to Stock. Thanks again, looking for a way.
ukic said:
Why don't you reroot using De La Vega by DG? Although his method will wipe your phone back to stock but at least you know it works and it's safe.
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Yup. If the phone is infected, wiping it clean is what you want to do anyway.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
I agree man. Thanks for your input, I'm just a little mad. I did pay 399.00 for this and now, I just want it back to Stock. Thanks again, looking for a way.
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I think your course of action depends on how much you have at risk. Do you have sensitive/valuable passwords, account numbers, etc. on your phone or your PC?
If you don't, then you might want to just ignore the risk until and unless someone establishes that Kingo is really malware.
But if you do have sensitive information at risk, your decision is trickier. The only really secure course of action would be to wipe both your phone and your PC, and to reset all your potentially-exposed passwords and financial accounts. But that's a lot of work to go to for a threat that might not even exist. So it really depends on what you have at stake.
In any case, I wish you the best of luck!
If all it does is send info to their servers I ponder if I could just start it under a virtual machine with no internet connection and root.
is the internet connection required?
I would much rather flash two second than a 2 gig file it just sounds alot riskier
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mrkhigh said:
If all it does is send info to their servers I ponder if I could just start it under a virtual machine with no internet connection and root.
is the internet connection required?
I would much rather flash two second than a 2 gig file it just sounds alot riskier
Sent from my XT907 using xda app-developers app
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These are just rumors and a Moderator let us know it wasn't safe so,,,,,,I just want to go back. Cant right now. Cant find the At&T Firmware,,I dont think its available yet.
For all we know, Vroot and Kingo could be okay. IDK
Grrrr so we shouldnt use Kingo unroot method...Im a feard...anyone know what to do now
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mrkhigh said:
If all it does is send info to their servers I ponder if I could just start it under a virtual machine with no internet connection and root.
is the internet connection required?
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I was thinking this as well but if the application leaves a back door open on the device itself then unless you plan on having your phone in Airplane mode 24/7 it would eventually send its payload over the wire.
I think the PC portion is controllable, its the mobile portion that has a lot of people on edge.
I found this website:
www[dot]majorgeeks.com/files/details/kingo_android_root[dot]html
Which seems to have links back into XDA about who made the claim and what not.
I see it like this, until someone can prove without a doubt that it is opening holes in devices and leaking information, its just another "he-said-she-said" argument.
exaltedgod said:
I was thinking this as well but if the application leaves a back door open on the device itself then unless you plan on having your phone in Airplane mode 24/7 it would eventually send its payload over the wire.
I think the PC portion is controllable, its the mobile portion that has a lot of people on edge.
I found this website:
www[dot]majorgeeks.com/files/details/kingo_android_root[dot]html
Which seems to have links back into XDA about who made the claim and what not.
I see it like this, until someone can prove without a doubt that it is opening holes in devices and leaking information, its just another "he-said-she-said" argument.
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Or someone is mad because they didn't come up with a root solution like this first, LOL just saying.
I tried the Vroot first, and it had a superuser app (from playstore) but its all in Chinese letters.
So I uninstalled that super user app and used Kingo to unroot (Which works perfectly)
Then I rebooted and rooted using Kingo. (Worked perfectly)
It put the superSU on there (In English) and has been awesome
Now Im going back to stock and never rooting again in my life because it pisses me off I can't trust ...Never mind
I will be using Vega method soon as I get home and Im done. This sucks. Battery life will also suck. Aw well. At least my info will be protected
I guess. Kingo,,,I wish they wouldn't of said that about you. Now I want you gone.
I've contacted Kingo on their website and asked them to comment, hopefully they will respond to the possibility of their app being permanently declared malware on the largest Android forum on the net. We'll see what they have to say about it, if anything.
Response from Kingo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2515879
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Im back on stock and honestly, the phone fly's better.
I also have the watch so I'm going to wait for a new root method on new updated firmware.
This phone feels better and I got a better AnTUTU score without root.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I agree man. Thanks for your input, I'm just a little mad. I did pay 399.00 for this and now, I just want it back to Stock. Thanks again, looking for a way.
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Root De La Vega works fine. Yes it does take a little more work and you have to wipe data but I've rooted/unrooted/rooted again and I've had no issues using DesignGear's method. DesignGear's is a great Dev...I don't think him telling people to use Kingo should change that opinion. Kingo seemed really, really weird to me from the beginning...but it does root the phone!

Petition: Grant Galaxy S5 Users Unlocked Bootloader Upon Request

Greetings Everyone,
I posted this over in the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 threads. The original thread I'm speaking of can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758406
As I am sure many of you are aware Verizon Wireless and AT&T users have yet to receive root. I have created a petition asking for an unlocked bootloader that upon reaching its signature goal will be sent out to VZW/ATT as well as Samsung Mobile. Petitioning has worked for a number of devices in the past such as the HTC Rezound. If you would all please take a minute or less of your time to SIGN&SHARE this petition it would help all of us out tremendously. Below I have pasted the OP from my original thread.
Petition link is at the bottom of this post.
There was some discussion by Russ77 about starting a petition over in the bounty thread, so I went ahead and made one.
You may think this is a long shot or even a foolish attempt, but the bottom line is it could work. The likeliness of this working goes up with every signature. If you are reading this- SIGN! If this really picks up we may be able to change Verizon's policy all together! It takes maybe 3 seconds to sign so lets get this thing moving!
How Can You Help?
1. Sign the petition
2. Get Social- tweet it, facebook it, anything to spread awareness
3. Share this on other forums and websites
Remember, signing this is great but signing and sharing is even better.
Current Goal: 5,000
Verizon Wireless Petition Link:
https://www.change.org/petitions/ve...-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request#share
ATT Petition Link:
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
davidstre said:
Greetings Everyone,
I posted this over in the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 threads. The original thread I'm speaking of can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758406
As I am sure many of you are aware Verizon Wireless and AT&T users have yet to receive root. I have created a petition asking for an unlocked bootloader that upon reaching its signature goal will be sent out to VZW/ATT as well as Samsung Mobile. Petitioning has worked for a number of devices in the past such as the HTC Rezound. If you would all please take a minute or less of your time to SIGN&SHARE this petition it would help all of us out tremendously. Below I have pasted the OP from my original thread.
Petition link is at the bottom of this post.
There was some discussion by Russ77 about starting a petition over in the bounty thread, so I went ahead and made one.
You may think this is a long shot or even a foolish attempt, but the bottom line is it could work. The likeliness of this working goes up with every signature. If you are reading this- SIGN! If this really picks up we may be able to change Verizon's policy all together! It takes maybe 3 seconds to sign so lets get this thing moving!
How Can You Help?
1. Sign the petition
2. Get Social- tweet it, facebook it, anything to spread awareness
3. Share this on other forums and websites
Remember, signing this is great but signing and sharing is even better.
Current Goal: 5,000
Verizon Wireless Petition Link:
https://www.change.org/petitions/ve...-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request#share
ATT Petition Link:
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
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There should be one for Sprint as well j/s
Dude I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry while reading this. Let me explain to you what you're asking, you are asking these companies to allow you the chance to break their device, I'm I right? That's like asking the owner of a house to let you in so that you can rob them, I can't believe XDA is being reduced to this level. Here is a tip, why not find another carrier that gives you the freedom to root until devs can figure something out. Over here we're still trying to figure out how to prevent Knox from tripping once rooted. I'm not sure petitioning mobile companies is the way to go.
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Dude I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry while reading this. Let me explain to you what you're asking, you are asking these companies to allow you the chance to break their device, I'm I right? That's like asking the owner of a house to let you in so that you can rob them, I can't believe XDA is being reduced to this level. Here is a tip, why not find another carrier that gives you the freedom to root until devs can figure something out. Over here we're still trying to figure out how to prevent Knox from tripping once rooted. I'm not sure petitioning mobile companies is the way to go.
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What if Windows only let you have a guest account?
OP
/signed
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NghtWachman said:
Dude I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry while reading this. Let me explain to you what you're asking, you are asking these companies to allow you the chance to break their device, I'm I right? That's like asking the owner of a house to let you in so that you can rob them, I can't believe XDA is being reduced to this level. Here is a tip, why not find another carrier that gives you the freedom to root until devs can figure something out. Over here we're still trying to figure out how to prevent Knox from tripping once rooted. I'm not sure petitioning mobile companies is the way to go.
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Clearly you haven't been around the forums long enough? Hence, your logic makes no sense either. If you want more support for our devices, unlocking it for other variants would attract more development and hopefully contribute to solving tripping knox. So, don't try to discourage a movement that's been done on other devices which BTW was sometimes successful. It's a possible cause.
Thanks for the write op!
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Based on my limited knowledge of American carriers, this has been attempted before and both VZW and AT&T have little care for such things.
Is there any *recent* example of success?
I remember very clearly that one of those companies stayed that they would not allow unlocking bootloaders, period.
Also I really really doubt you can move Samsung with a petition, they just don't give a crap about them.
Sorry but you might be wasting your time
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dejahboi said:
Clearly you haven't been around the forums long enough? Hence, your logic makes no sense either. If you want more support for our devices, unlocking it for other variants would attract more development and hopefully contribute to solving tripping knox. So, don't try to discourage a movement that's been done on other devices which BTW was sometimes successful. It's a possible cause.
Thanks for the write op!
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It's easier to carry such view point, but of course there are those among us who are looking for quick fix while the rest are working diligently in finding a solution, if you believe that taking a petition to these company will be a positive way then by all means go for it, but remember we're talking about companies that don't give a sh*t about what customers think when it comes to granting boot loader access.
Sigh....another petition thread? This will never happen, so don't bother wasting your time. Don't bother wasting more time than you already have. It will not happen. Period.
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mike5026 said:
There should be one for Sprint as well j/s
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Ummmm.... The Sprint S5 has had root since the day it came out. Go read some more please....
We buy their devices to do with as we please...period if the bootloader is unlocked warranty void end of story... what's so funny and hard to understand.people who know the risks also know the fix.
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ronnie498
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Lollipop leaked for Note Edgde can it be ported to the Note 4?

http://www.talkandroid.com/235610-b...-lollipop-for-samsung-galaxy-note-edge-leaks/
Lollipop leak...is there a way to port to ours?
First of all...i would not post if i didn't belive att all that it is any truth in this. Second Schrotty35, before you are rude and behave like a child and call me a noob. Check how long i have been a member, my contributions to the community dated since my old ipaq 5510. I thought we we're here to inform and help each other? Maybe i was wrong?
More sources http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...eaks-for-the-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Edge_id65529
And i thought i would be possible since it leaked for the snapdragon edge as well.
borelis said:
First of all...i would not post if i didn't belive att all that it is any truth in this. Second Schrotty35, before you are rude and behave like a child and call me a noob. Check how long i have been a member, my contributions to the community dated since my old ipaq 5510. I thought we we're here to inform and help each other? Maybe i was wrong?
More sources http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...eaks-for-the-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Edge_id65529
And i thought i would be possible since it leaked for the snapdragon edge as well.
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A lot of us have already looked at it and still are looking at it we've had it since Monday. Probably beyond my capabilities but i do know the eteam have been looking at it
Seriously. ..whats wrong with people!? Sure i could have, and no I'm not in search of fame and glory. Maybe when i was 15 and also couldn't behave and be nice to people. What i meant was, that if you think i should have posted this in another thread you can point it out in a nice way or just klick thanks and move on. What rudness leads to is real newcomers wont dear to post anything and therefor wont learn and maybe we all miss out on a great contributior. And i disagree as the other threads i found was either saying our phone got LP or was closed. And i would like to give a big thank you to sawdoctor. He answered in a good manor and that should have been the end of this thread. Or did you alla know that i had been looked in to!?
jetbruceli said:
No your the reason people don't come to xda for support. Threads apon threads only make things confusing. If you would have commented on the other 12 threads all would have been fine.
Imagine having to scroll through hundred of threads just to see the latest news. OH WAIT that's now
It's also pointless because this is the note 4 not edge.
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In all fairness I think he was asking the question could this be ported to the n910f rather than another "when will we get lollipop " thread
Yes Sawdoctor, you are completely right ?. And AxAtAx makes a good point also. But my main point stands. We should stop flameing and help each other out. A simple "we have threads to discuss this" would have sufficed. Spare the bad attitude. Or i can be wrong? Maybe a bad climate is what everybody wants?
I really understand the concept of starting thread upon thread with the "same" topic isn't productive . But i really thought this was different than "Wow LP is here!". But if you all think otherwise i apologies.
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Yes Sawdoctor, you are completely right ?. And AxAtAx makes a good point also. But my main point stands. We should stop flameing and help each other out. A simple "we have threads to discuss this" would have sufficed. Spare the bad attitude. Or i can be wrong? Maybe a bad climate is what everybody wants?
I really understand the concept of starting thread upon thread with the "same" topic isn't productive . But i really thought this was different than "Wow LP is here!". But if you all think otherwise i apologies.
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Everything is cool. Just was saying that we are talking about the port info in those threads. Sorry!
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Dad got an Edge and installed leaked Lollipop on it. If I can do something that could help porting it to our Note 4 please tell. But it shouldn't involve root, he doesn't want to root it (yet?).
Ive ran a note edge rom i modded on my note 4 and it throws off the calibration of the screen even after trying to make the exits so it doesnt do that make my note 4 practically unusable til i got into service mode and reset the calibration
allenjthomsen said:
Ive ran a note edge rom i modded on my note 4 and it throws off the calibration of the screen even after trying to make the exits so it doesnt do that make my note 4 practically unusable til i got into service mode and reset the calibration
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When you reset calibration was it usable or not?
Drizzy xS said:
When you reset calibration was it usable or not?
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And what note 4 are you referring to?will it work on the tmobile note 4 the port from the edge. Thanks!!!
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Lollipop threads are here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/lollipop-variants-roll-t3029201
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malybru
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Catalysm users

Now that this Rom/Mod is gone, what will you switch to? this was the first rom I used where EVERYTHING worked 100%...Now what? What is the closest thing that runs like stock with the nice extras?
thoughts?
Don't know, hopefully it will resurface before the next Android update.
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Waiting for the next Google OTA and flash only system. Only Stock or Cataclysm, nothing else is not an option for me. Unfortunately!
Maybe, it'll be return in a big way.
Hm, I just saw what happened to the ROM. That's unfortunate what happened because ultimately the users and the developer lose out. His critics really lose nothing by him leaving.
At any rate, I made a nandroid in case it gets revisited, but I wiped the ROM and using a different one.
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Hm, I just saw what happened to the ROM. That's unfortunate what happened because ultimately the users and the developer lose out. His critics really lose nothing by him leaving.
At any rate, I made a nandroid in case it gets revisited, but I wiped the ROM and using a different one.
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what did you switch to? how is it?
I think it's either staying at latest cataclysm (which works great) or going stock + xposed and gravity box
Probably switch back to stock and deal with xposed.
What exactly happened? I'd like to save the effort of post hunting.
nixie2121 said:
what did you switch to? how is it?
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I've used Pure Nexus and Chroma. Both are very similar. Kinda like Ford or Chevy, it's personal taste. Both are good but they are custom so Android Pay will not work.
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blanco2701 said:
I think it's either staying at latest cataclysm (which works great) or going stock + xposed and gravity box
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I like Cataclysm due to Android Pay working. Outside of that, I'd rather do a complete custom ROM.
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StykerB said:
Probably switch back to stock and deal with xposed.
What exactly happened? I'd like to save the effort of post hunting.
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Someone accused the developer of not releasing code or something to that extent so his thread was moved from "Android Original Development" to "Android Development". He probably got angry and asked the mods to close the thread. It's too bad he let them get under his skin, but I can see how it would be frustrating.
StykerB said:
Probably switch back to stock and deal with xposed.
What exactly happened? I'd like to save the effort of post hunting.
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I tried to post hunt to see what happened and couldn't find anything. So sad. This was best ROM I've ever used on N6. I have bookmarked page on AFH and will check periodically. Beyond that, if nothing after February Google update I will be forced to find another. So frustrating to not know what happened.
wtherrell said:
I tried to post hunt to see what happened and couldn't find anything. So sad. This was best ROM I've ever used on N6. I have bookmarked page on AFH and will check periodically. Beyond that, if nothing after February Google update I will be forced to find another. So frustrating to not know what happened.
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mikeprius said:
I've used Pure Nexus and Chroma. Both are very similar. Kinda like Ford or Chevy, it's personal taste. Both are good but they are custom so Android Pay will not work.
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I like Cataclysm due to Android Pay working. Outside of that, I'd rather do a complete custom ROM.
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Someone accused the developer of not releasing code or something to that extent so his thread was moved from "Android Original Development" to "Android Development". He probably got angry and asked the mods to close the thread. It's too bad he let them get under his skin, but I can see how it would be frustrating.
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There is a populace here in XDA that doesn't/didn't like that he got too keep his rom in original development sections without releasing sources whereas many other devs had to keep proving to XDA mods that they have actually written their stuff and not just kanged it from another rom.
And as a result he was time again asked by various users to release his sources to prove that he didn't kang his stuff from other roms.
The additions he had in Cataclysm could certainly be found in other roms and earlier too but perhaps not in the same implement or even code. Or perhaps it was all copied. We'll probably never know now that he got fed up and left.
A fact is though that much of what XDA is now is based on being open source (if SuperSU isn't counted) so I do think all devs deserve the same treatment. If some have to publish their sources, then others should too.
As a matter I think it's best left at these facts without any more unnecessary drama.
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And back on topic. Both Pure Nexus and Chroma are good alternatives for users looking at a near-stock experience with some modifications.
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I tried to post hunt to see what happened and couldn't find anything. So sad. This was best ROM I've ever used on N6. I have bookmarked page on AFH and will check periodically. Beyond that, if nothing after February Google update I will be forced to find another. So frustrating to not know what happened.
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If you read this you will understand:
1 - Apparently, some developers agreed with what's published here: https://plus.google.com/+AlexCruz/posts/FVbxmtyop7W
2- Yesterday, atl4ntis nexus 6 thread got moved to the android development section.
3- He immediately asked for his threads to get closed.
4- He published this on his pushbullet
"Cataclysm development halted indefinitely
Dear users, after spending over four years on this project almost daily, apparently i'm still questioned over the originality of it.
I came to the conclusion that this is not fun anymore and i don't really deserve this attitude, so i've decided to spend my time on something else from now on.
If you feel offended by this decision and you've donated in the past 2-3 months (unfortunately paypal logs don't go over), feel free to send me the transaction id and i'll charge it back, like already did for the donations received today to cheer me up.
Thank you for the great moments spent together.
Cheers, atl4ntis."
That's it, sadly.
His work was ORIGINAL, if anyone doubts that they are new or frankly idiots or have a vendetta. There is no requirement on XDA to open source your work.
I hope people who hounded him and forced his thread to be moved are happy. It is a ridiculous thing to happen to by far the most popular rom for Nexus by a very respected dev.
XDA mods should really take a close look at this whole mess and rectify it, no one wins in the end.
blanco2701 said:
If you read this you will understand:
1 - Apparently, some developers agreed with what's published here: https://plus.google.com/+AlexCruz/posts/FVbxmtyop7W
2- Yesterday, atl4ntis nexus 6 thread got moved to the android development section.
3- He immediately asked for his threads to get closed.
4- He published this on his pushbullet
"Cataclysm development halted indefinitely
Dear users, after spending over four years on this project almost daily, apparently i'm still questioned over the originality of it.
I came to the conclusion that this is not fun anymore and i don't really deserve this attitude, so i've decided to spend my time on something else from now on.
If you feel offended by this decision and you've donated in the past 2-3 months (unfortunately paypal logs don't go over), feel free to send me the transaction id and i'll charge it back, like already did for the donations received today to cheer me up.
Thank you for the great moments spent together.
Cheers, atl4ntis."
That's it, sadly.
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Thanks for the info. Guess I'll just be shopping for a new rom. This was one of only 2 roms I found on which my "Dock Clock Plus" app would work.
Also liked the aroma installer.
Oh, well.
ECrispy said:
His work was ORIGINAL, if anyone doubts that they are new or frankly idiots or have a vendetta. There is no requirement on XDA to open source your work.
I hope people who hounded him and forced his thread to be moved are happy. It is a ridiculous thing to happen to by far the most popular rom for Nexus by a very respected dev.
XDA mods should really take a close look at this whole mess and rectify it, no one wins in the end.
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Not really much point going into this. Whether his work was original or nothing doesn't even matter.
Fact is that he got treated differently than other "original devs" and fact is that because of this he got bothered almost as long as he released his rom.
He finally got enough and that's the end of that. Further drama won't do anything good.
According to @Neo, Original Development sections are being taken down anyway, if I understood his post correctly.
It's a shame..... Cata was the best way to go for me, too.
now without cataclysm we got only one option is left. EXPOSED FRAMEWORK and MODULES. individual module for individual features.
Anyone know how to leave cataclysm for stock rooted rom without full wipe? Can i just flash over it?
Does OK Google work perfectly on these (pure and chroma)? screen off in the car... I always had trouble with it on AOSP, not on cat though!
ECrispy said:
His work was ORIGINAL, if anyone doubts that they are new or frankly idiots or have a vendetta. There is no requirement on XDA to open source your work.
I hope people who hounded him and forced his thread to be moved are happy. It is a ridiculous thing to happen to by far the most popular rom for Nexus by a very respected dev.
XDA mods should really take a close look at this whole mess and rectify it, no one wins in the end.
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We already have taken a closer look at this. Now while as already stated Og Dev and Android dev having separate forums is over. All new devices will only have one section.
Now we will not talk about this but the dev has been given plenty of chances to that the rom was indeed OG development. (no XDA doesnt require the rom to be open source) The issue with that is without it being open source there is no way to prove that any work is OG development.
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