[Q] While in Europe: Moto X won't reconnect to cell data, post-WiFi use - Moto X Q&A

Hey guys/gals -
I got my Moto-X a few weeks ago, and have been using it without issue on AT&T. Unfortunately, I'm just wrapping up my first trip through Europe with this phone (left my iPhone 5 at home), and I've noticed a very odd thing over the last week.
For some reason, my phone will not re-establish a cellular data connection once it has connected to WiFi (and subsequently disconnected from WiFi). I have noticed this - consistently - in both Germany and Italy. In all cases, once WiFi is no longer connected, I can see that the cellular data network is available (the 4G or E logo shows up, grayed out, next to the cell bars) but it will not reestablish. The only way to obtain a cellular data connection is to restart the phone.
I've tried going into airplane mode; I've tried cycling cellular data. Nothing I can think to try causes the cellular network icon ("4G" or "E") to cycle from gray to white...I simply cannot get back online without a full restart. But once I've restarted it works fine - so long as I don't jump on WiFi.
The phone isn't unlocked; it's an AT&T device, with no APN tweaks.
Anyone have any idea what could cause this behavior? Unfortunately, it's going to be another four or five weeks before I'm back here to test any ideas...but I figured I'd reach out while the issue is fresh.
Cheers.

Just to chime in, I've also seen this issue on mine, but it only happens with certain WiFi access points. After using the Cisco ones at work the problem occurs, but my Asus N66U doesn't seem to upset it.

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Loss to GSM Network

I have a TyTNII phone and after reading extensively through the threads posted, seems to have a unique problem.
My device will show the "E" icon and service provider in the Today screen and everything will be normal.
After connecting to the Active Sync via USB the phone will be normal for a while, but at some stage will disconnect from the GSM network and show no service.
At this stage the "E" icon changed to a "G". I have tried selecting the service provider, finding the network etc, but it keeps telling me to disconnect the data service and try again.
At first I thought it was blue tooth, but it does make no difference. I have loaded all the comm utils I could find and none is showing any active data sessions or connections.
Reset does not work, taking the SIM out and putting it back does not work, not even taking the battery out makes a difference.
All that seems to work is to put the SIM back in another phone and let the phone boot up to get GSM connection. After that I can put the SIM back in the TyTNII and all will be fine - even for days - as long as I do not connect USB to the PC.
Do you have any ideas on what I can do to solve the matter - it is irretating like hell to swap a sim every now and then...
could be wrong but is there a wired connection on your pc/laptop that uses a dial out and not gprs, this could cause it to run a connection on gsm on gprs.
Thank you for the reply - I have checked my pc and have no dialup connections - currently connected to Internet via Ethernet.
I have also checked the phone - during this shutdown period I am able to browse the internet from the phone.
This tells me that I have internet access, just no GSM service - its like the phone is switching the GSM network off, but GPRS and Edge is still working.
Hope that helps
Dunno where you are geographically, but At&t had some major down time last friday or thursday and it seemed again this week on tuesday or so.
Maybe this was effecting you? (boston area) Only time my kaiser does **** like that is when i leave something conflicting open, (mail, or a browser)
good luck

[Q] Razr I - Failing to swap to Mobile Data after Wireless Connection out of Range

Hi.
I've recently started having lots of difficulty when moving out of range of my home's wireless signal in the phone picking up and connecting to the Mobile Data network.
Specifically:
1) Run phone for ages at home using wireless
2) Walk out of house, out of range. Wireless connection goes unconneced
3) Wait for Mobile Network to connect, have at least 3 bars of signal - fails, no E/G/H Sign, Network indicator stays white ( So far waited up to 3 hours)
4) Reboot Phone, instant Mobile Network Connection @ H
Things I have tried:
1) Turning Wireless off before leaving range of wi-fi, sometimes this works ( circa 1 in 20)
2) Turning Phone to Airplane Mode & Back - sometimes this works ( circa 1 in 15 ).
Turning Airplane mode on can take about 4 minutes, as though something is waiting for a closure timeout. Normally, this takes about 5 seconds.
3) Phone calls are intermittant during this time - sometimes I can make them, sometimes i can't.
4) While in range, turn phone off/on again so a "clean" boot, then walk out of range. No affect on ability to reconnect.
Check Phone Status under About Phone, the Mobile Network States reports "Not Connected"
It's really annoying, as I want to use the phone to during breakfast to check the latest traffic information and map updates from Google Maps before I leave home, then get in the car and go, not reboot the phone.
Has anyone else suffered a similar problem?
Phone Specifics:
Motorola Razr I XT890
Android 4.1.2 Stock
T-Mobile
Is there some investigative
Thanks!
I've had exactly the same issue on/off for weeks.
Not found a reason/fix for it yet, although I've been loath to do a full wipe with how busy I am atm.
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harryjan said:
I've had exactly the same issue on/off for weeks.
Not found a reason/fix for it yet, although I've been loath to do a full wipe with how busy I am atm.
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Hmm.
At least we know we are not in the same boat, and a recent forum query on Engagdet highlighted others.
I've tried to capture a bug report to give me some logs to look at, but that's not working at the moment either !
Thinking it might be an "Always On" app related problem such as sykpe or amazon mp3 :S

Wifi signal drops to "poor" and won't connect with 2014 moto x

I just received my gen 2 moto x last night and am having trouble connecting to Wifi at work. It connects to my home network and one of my work networks just fine, but when I try to connect to the work network I need it to connect to the signal strength drops to "poor" as soon as I press connect. My home network and work network both are password protected. I've verified the password and have the same connection settings as my friend's gen 1 moto x, which connects properly. The work network has excellent signal at all times when I am not trying to connect to it. It just keeps cycling from "connecting" to "saved."
Has anyone else experienced this or know a workaround? I found this but this is for a gen 1 (I'm not sure if that would help) but I'm not rooted so I don't have access to phase 2 authentication. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/wifi-signal-drops-trying-to-connect-t2872241
Thanks,
Mike
mikekory87 said:
I just received my gen 2 moto x last night and am having trouble connecting to Wifi at work. It connects to my home network and one of my work networks just fine, but when I try to connect to the work network I need it to connect to the signal strength drops to "poor" as soon as I press connect. My home network and work network both are password protected. I've verified the password and have the same connection settings as my friend's gen 1 moto x, which connects properly. The work network has excellent signal at all times when I am not trying to connect to it. It just keeps cycling from "connecting" to "saved."
Has anyone else experienced this or know a workaround? I found this but this is for a gen 1 (I'm not sure if that would help) but I'm not rooted so I don't have access to phase 2 authentication. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/wifi-signal-drops-trying-to-connect-t2872241
Thanks,
Mike
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Exact same problem. Fine at home and everywhere else. Spent a couple hours this week on the phone with Moto. They keep saying it's the network, yet everyone else is on it. They say update firmware and open MAC. Both of which are done.
This is the message in the Access point every 3 seconds when my phone is trying to connect...
"Client Deauthenticated: MACAddress:9c:d9:17:a1:c8:51 Base Radio MAC:b8:62:1f:ad:5e:90 Slot: 0 User Name: unknown Ip Address: unknown Reason:Unspecified ReasonCode: 1"
My wife's phone drops WiFi in favor of 4G LTE at home. I have to turn off data to connect to WiFi but it eventually drops the WiFi. I'm still waiting on my pure edition so I'm not sure if its just her phone or if its a common problem.
bradley26 said:
My wife's phone drops WiFi in favor of 4G LTE at home. I have to turn off data to connect to WiFi but it eventually drops the WiFi. I'm still waiting on my pure edition so I'm not sure if its just her phone or if its a common problem.
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This!
I have this problem all the time ON multiple networks, its very frustrating
Mines will disconnect from my 5ghz when the screen goes off and reconnects when turned on, works fine on 2.4ghz. I have a Nighthawk ac1900 so the phone is definitely the problem.
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This is related to 802.1X, We have it implemented Radius and 802.1X at work and it doesnt connect. But the same AP has a guest SSID which has no protection and a separate vlan which has access only to internet and it works fine.
giovannirc said:
This is related to 802.1X, We have it implemented Radius and 802.1X at work and it doesnt connect. But the same AP has a guest SSID which has no protection and a separate vlan which has access only to internet and it works fine.
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Sounds like this could be my problem. We have 4 networks we can login to, but they are all broadcast from the same access point. One says "secured with 802.1x" and is for laptops, two say "secured with WPA/WPA2" and are for cell phones/other, and the final is unsecured. I can only connect to the unsecured network.
So does it sound like it's the phone that's refusing the network, the network is refusing the phone for something the phone is sending back to it, or the network is refusing the phone for another reason?
I'm having this same issue. 1st Gen Moto X sitting right next to 2nd Gen, and the 1st Gen is connected while the 2nd Gen can't.
I'm having the exact same issue. It appears the problem is that older Cisco firmware doesnt support 802.11w, which is what the moto x 2014 uses by default. Here is a thread where a moto rep explains it to Cisco - https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12331486/connectivity-issues-cisco-controllers-and-pmf-enabled-moto-x-gen-2
My girlfriend and I have this phone and we had a similar problem. It would connect/reconnect like a billion times before staying connected on our home network but connect fine on other networks. I tried several solutions but the one that worked was changing the channel on the router. I live in an apartment building and there are a lot of WiFi networks around me so I figured that might be causing some interference. I changed my channel from 6 to auto (it automatically jumped to 11) and now it connects instantly and is solid. What's weird is I tried channels recommended by WiFi analyzer and my other devices would connect just fine but the Moto X's couldn't even see the network in the list when it was on a lot of channels like 12, 13, and 14.
Seems like a weird WiFi radio firmware bug to me.
Is there a client side fix for this?
I just ran into the problem at my work. It is a major hospital. They are not going upgrade their cisco firmware so a couple of people's personal phones are able to connect to the network.
WiFi in general is bad on the X2014 and I am reading the same in the Droid Turbo forums.
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What!? Really?
I've not had a single issue with WiFi connectivity. I'm an IT professional so heavily reliant on WiFi.
will54880 said:
WiFi in general is bad on the X2014 and I am reading the same in the Droid Turbo forums.
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Wutang200 said:
I've not had a single issue with WiFi connectivity. I'm an IT professional so heavily reliant on WiFi.
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I never had a WiFi problem with the Moto X 2014 until today at work. It wouldn't connect to a few different clients Wireless APs. At the first client site I power cycled the phone and WiFi still wouldn't connect. I then went to another client site and once again it would no longer connect. I power cycled again and this time it connected just fine albeit Bluetooth was acting funny and not connecting to the Moto 360. After cycling Bluetooth off and on again the 360 finally connected. Not sure if this is an actual issue or just dumb luck. I wonder if anyone that was having WiFi issues with this phone also has a Moto 360 connected via Bluetooth?
I don't own a 360 and my bluetooth is normally switched off unless I'm streaming music at home.
I know none of what I am about to write will solve anyone's issue but sharing my experiences mught help understand you're not alone. I wander between as many as a dozen different wifi networks daily. I manager a 63 room hotel on 7.5 acres where we are currently running EnGenius EAP350 AP's broadcasting in 2.4mhz band ONLY using .11bgn. I set the entire network to use one SSID so roaming is, in theory, problem free. My XT1095 has not had any issues at all here on property.
I also have my personal network in the lobby and main building under 2.4/5/.11AC side by side with out guest network. No issues bouncing around. I honestly expected issues but have found none.
There is one issue I have found in Android in general which can happen randomly, or I have not been able to induce the behavior only recognize it. Occasionally when I move from one building to another Android (ICS forward for sure) will forget which actual AP it's after and just hang. My solution is to tell the device to forget that node then once forgotten the network, of course, shows up in the list. I then select it and boom we're back in business.
I do have issues when I visit a network at say, the grocery store which requires accepting an EULA...the device simply will hang Wifi wize, even when I delete and reconnect I won't get the note to open the authorization page. I end up just killing wifi and going with LTE.
I get the same behaviors from all my phones ICS though Kitkat, don't have Lollipop yet darn it!!
I have long been frustrated with this weirdism from Android but have reached a point of M.A.D. with my devices but never found a solution.
I have noted I have the most issues by far with Cisco/Linksys devices. It has been almost assured that if I have an issue it's one of those routers running an older firmware version (amazing how many AP/routers use default password settings...I mean, really???)
Not 100% sure it's a firmware only issue but I do think it's some common bit of hardware in an AP/Router which can go spastic for some reason preventing Android from figuring out how to remain or get connected. I even had one of the EnGenius AP's go nuts, a fast swap with a freshly configured AP resolves but, again, still does not identify or solve the problem
I also sense there is some oddness deep in the bowels of Android's wifi/networking subsystem which just was never written correctly and may never be fixed.
Last I run and app called Wifi Analyzer by Kevin Yuan, it helps me a GREAT deal because I can target a specific AP/node to connect with. Android versions often defeat this by not remaining connected to that desired target AP and switching to something else. Here is where I think some of the issues with wifi connectivity live...Google MUST spend some time refining their wifi subsystem.
No matter this is a Very frustrating issue when it happens. My best solution has always been to forget the current connection then reconnect with it again once it reappears. Better yet use Wifi Analyzer or similar app to target a specific AP/node and connect/forget from inside the app, that really does seem to help, mostly...sigh, I know, sorry...
This WiFi issue is really aggravating. I have tried so many things:
1. Rebooting Router
2. Powering Off/On Phone
3. Turning WiFi Radio Off/On
4. Resetting Phone Cache Partition
5. Using WiFi analyzer and setting my router to various channels manually
6. Changing Router SSID
7. Forgetting SSID on phone and re-adding it
8. Verifying MAC Filtering is not enabled
9. Enabling MAC filtering and specifically allowing phone MAC address
10. Disabling "Avoid Poor Connections" in WiFi settings
11. Manually setting WiFi frequency band to 2.4ghz in phone settings
12. Disabling "WiFi Optimization" in phone settings
23. Changing WiFi direct and BT phone names (yeah, a big stretch, but I read somewhere that this worked)
24. Installed updated firmware on my ASUS RT-N12D1 (3.0.0.d.376_3602)
25. Disabled WPS on router
26. Switched router between Auto, Legacy and N-Only
27. Disabled Authentication and Encryption on router, just an "Open" connection.
After all of this, the phone still has WiFi connectivity issues. Sometimes after a phone power cycle it will connect to WiFi, but never for very long. Every other device I have connects to the WiFi without issues. I just got the Moto X a few days ago (AT&T version) and this is the first time I have ever had a device with WiFi connectivity issues like this. Very aggravating. There is clearly something wrong with either the hardware, or software on the phone.
There are some other oddities. When it won't connect to WiFi, there is something strange with the phone. Its not like it just can't connect or stay connected to WiFi, but somehow it seems like the WiFi is in a stalled state. Sometimes it won't show any WiFi networks and just says "Searching for WiFi networks..." until I turn off wifi and turn back on again. Then as soon as it turns back on, it will show the nearby SSID's, and try to auto-connect to my router, but after a few seconds it shows "Disabled" under the SSID. Then after a few seconds the disabled goes away, and it just shows the SSID name. It also won't let me change the WiFi Direct phone name while the WiFi is in this state, it gives me an error saying "Failed to rename device", followed by "Group Creation Failed". However, when I am actually connected to WiFi, I can rename the WiFi direct name just fine. So its not just simply an issue with bad radio signal or something, but something more serious, like the WiFi state is hung or something. If I can't resolve this in another day or two, I am going to have to return the phone, and hopefully a replacement will work. If not, I might have to get something other than a MotoX because I can't not have WiFi while at home and work.
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I found a way that seems to work to connect to WiFi. To clear, this isn't a fix for the data-sync issue that some people are having, or poor signal, but the issue where you can't connect to an SSID, and there is no error or anything.
1. Hold Down Power Button
2. Turn Airplane Mode On
3. Turn Wi-Fi On
4. Connect to SSID
5. Press Power Button down again
6. Turn airplane mode "Off"
I have now tried this several times, and it works everytime. If I turn off Wi-Fi and back on again, it won't connect, until I do the airplane mode trick. I don't know who to give credit for this, I have spent days and hours searching, and I remembered reading that from somebody else, but not sure where, so this is not my fix, I am just posting it here as it seems to work.
This issue is strange, and must be some combination of Android, and Motorola software/hardware/firmware configuration. I hope they get this fixed, but it at least now, this temporary fix will work whenever WiFi is not connecting.
For those of you getting WiFi connectivity problems, it could be related to your router setup. Download an app called InSSIDer and run a scan, then choose a channel that's not being used but make sure it's 5 channels higher or lower. For example, if it detects 3 networks on channels 3, 5 & 6, then you want to choose channel 10 or 11. If it detects one network on channel 6, then you should choose channel 1 or channel 10 or 11.
I noticed issues like this when I bought my Nexus 4 after my iPhone 4. Android devices seem to ship with rubbish WiFi radios.
Like I've mentioned before, I've not experienced a single disconnection with my phone either at home, work, in laws, coffee shops or anywhere else ever. Same with my first gen Moto X.
Mine is slightly different. Now and then, after power cycling or rebooting, it forgets all the WiFi passwords. Not every time. Just now and then.
Also sometimes it's quite fast, some slow. My wife's firs gen is pretty constant.

moto x pure att WIFI kills data signal

Issue: While connected to my EA6900 (1900 AC) linksys wireless modem my data dies. If I turn off wifi, I am able to call out, (although patchy), get texts, and use android services. As soon as I turn on wifi, these services all seem to shut down. Although sometimes some data is able to eak through.
Background: I am using a Moto x (2014) Pure Edition on the AT&T Network. I have confirmed time and time again that wireless works on my network, I have a full wifi signal and decent LTE signal (unsure how strong -- it shows 2-3 bars). I had this problem initially in 4.4.4 and it persists in 5.0 (I updated to see if that would fix the issue. Previously I had and HTC One with no issues what so ever. Reboots do not fix this issue and ATT has told me it is not their problem.
Hypothesis: I think the Moto X 2014 has problem connecting on the 5ghz (duel band) or AC networks. I have noticed while at work or other locations, I have had no connectivity issues with wifi on. I am pretty sure they are using standard 2.4ghz G and or N connections. I believe that the phone is unable to switch between the range of bands and causes it to lose data connectivity.
Has anyone had this issue or can anyone correct it?
I don't have an ac or 5ghz router so I can't test this. Have you played with the WiFi frequency band under advanced WiFi? You can force connect to 5ghz or 2.4ghz.
You could also turn off ac on the router configuration page to see if you can connect on n.
When I have time I will play around on my network to try and force the connection to different protocols. I have an AC router from EnGenius it's their ESR1200 which is a consumer grade device but pretty nice over all and was a steal at $60 over on Amazon:
http://www.engeniustech.com/home-networking/routers/16742-esr1200
But will try a few options. Right now I have it connected to the 5ghz band w/o issue. I can add I have long encountered issues for Android when moving between wifi networks. It has always been prone to struggling to juggle connections, even when switching nodes on a mono-SSID network. I can trace my issues back to Jelly Bean. But it seems like you are seeing something different.
If I find anything I'll post it soon as time permits, busy week for me at work or I might get lucky and just die in my sleep.
EDIT: For giggles I forced a connection to the 5ghz side and sent some texts as well as a couple calls w/o issue. Was able to receive as well. Mode is .11n of course and a solid 433mbps network connection speed
This is where my hypothesis really dies... I have attempted forcing 2.4 or 5ghz but both failed. The other option is the phone doesnt play nice with the EA6900... which is seemingly supported by the fact that my phone hasnt had any issues while i am connected to my parents house for thankgsiving. They are running 2.4ghz at a blazing 65mbps (i usually average around 400 at my house on my ea6900). Could it be the AC modem? One other thought is chromecast is somehow interfering with my phone. I will need to try removing chromecast when i get home to see if that works, but at this point, i would find it hard to imagine.
This is literally driving me up a wall.
EDIT: So I am at home at it has been running better but just now it has decided to seize up. Showing same info... 2.4ghz 65mpbs same network... full bars.... att shows 3/5 bars but doesnt say LTE or H or anything..just ATT (pretty sure thats normal)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B00EXK14S0/s=sd/ref=mw_dp_cr
There are a bunch of comments about it overheating and dropping signal repeatedly. I would think about returning it under warranty.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B00EXK14S0/s=sd/ref=mw_dp_cr
There are a bunch of comments about it overheating and dropping signal repeatedly. I would think about returning it under warranty.
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I owned this router and had problems with android devices staying connected.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B00EXK14S0/s=sd/ref=mw_dp_cr
There are a bunch of comments about it overheating and dropping signal repeatedly. I would think about returning it under warranty.
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I wanted to blame my router very badly... however i have never experienced any drops on my laptop -- unless my laptop somehow deals with drops better than my phone...

AT&T S6 Edge losing network connection - Why?

Just upgraded from my M7 to the S6 Edge last Sunday. Since then the S6 has randomly disconnected from both voice and text service twice. The display indicates strong signal and that it's connected but no incoming calls or texts go through. The first time required a reboot to regain connectivity and the second time it took over 5 minutes before it returned. Attempts to make outgoing calls timed out with no connection. Do Not Disturb mode is off and the phone is provisioned correctly. There's no warning that this is happening until someone contacts me using an other method. Any ideas?
I would try a factory data reset. Whenever I've had problems that almost always fixed them. Make sure you back up everything since it totally erases the SD card. If that doesn't work, get a replacement.
I have a complaint out with ATT right now regarding my text messages. Weirdest thing ever - I'm NOT getting text messages at random times from random contacts on my phone but I AM getting them on MightyText, how odd is that? I can't imagine why this is happening, and they've asked me every question in the book all the way down to if my phone had any damage, water or otherwise.... I just got this thing, no it isn't broken!
Hopefully an update or something with figure it out
Try disabling VoLTE option
Has this been happening on your WiFi or mobile data or both? If on WiFi Check with your router it can potentially be dropping packets. Please specify
I have a Microcell and I've unplugged it to see if that was the problem. It was still connecting fine on wi-fi when it did this. I ran a packet loss test and after five minutes there was 0% loss.
Aside from the packet loss did you manage to measure the jitter on the line? Also when connected to the microcell are you surfing through the WiFi or is it using your mobile data still?
It's not jitter either. A 5 minute run all showed times of <1ms . When this occurred the phone had been idled for a few hours and just didn't seem to wake up. It seems to be confined only to voice and text service.
Sounds like your network is fine. Just have to see what att has to say about the smscreen and voice. By the way have you try turning off the volte (enhanced 4g lte) feature as well ?
Well....it just did it again. Definitely not a conflict with the microcell. It seems that once the phone is on and displaying for 3 minutes or so then it will start to work. I've disabled enhanced LTE to see if that makes a difference. It's done this about 48 hours apart now three times. I'm about to dump this thing back on AT&T. I'm beginning to wish I had gone with an M9.
Phone was replaced under warranty. The new one doesn't have this issue at all. Chalk it up to a bad sample.

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