Hello I'm huge Android fan and I never ever understood the root I've rooted my HTC one and got the Android revolution 40.3 by Mike 1986 with kit kat 4.4. And what is the big deal about root is there a cydia like program that installs stuff? I saw the bloat ware is gone and that's nice but come on it can't be just all that?
Tell me all the things as iI'm 5 years old
Thanks ahead
Edit: how do I update the rom OTA
Your 5 years old yeah sure
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When you jailbreak the iPhone you are just able to install non apple apps. You can do that out of the box on Android by allowing other sources in settings. With root on Android you are able to install customized roms, like you did the ARHD. But with root you can customize the base rom with things like Xposed. It's much more powerful than just jailbreaking. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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That's about right. The easy way to look at it is, when you get an android phone you have guest access, bit like a guest account on a PC.
You can do everything you need but not major stuff. Rooting the phone gives you administrator access or full access to everything so you can do anything eg install a different ROM or kernel.
Yeah I've got that xposed installer but what is great to install and what or why does I need to change the rom or kernel... But is the xposed installer "the big thing"?
sliz said:
Hello I'm huge Android fan and I never ever understood the root I've rooted my HTC one and got the Android revolution 40.3 by Mike 1986 with kit kat 4.4. And what is the big deal about root is there a cydia like program that installs stuff? I saw the bloat ware is gone and that's nice but come on it can't be just all that?
Tell me all the things as iI'm 5 years old
Thanks ahead
Edit: how do I update the rom OTA
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Five years old huh?? Hmmm..
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U can download stuff without even rooting.,Kid
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I think he meant "Explain it to him like he is 5 years old".
Either way, you want to know what is root used for in Android? I'll help you out : Click Here
sliz said:
Yeah I've got that xposed installer but what is great to install and what or why does I need to change the rom or kernel... But is the xposed installer "the big thing"?
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You don't NEED to do anything. Everything is based on personal preference. Different roms offer different levels of customizations and performance and gives you options based on your wants. Different kernels offer more customizations to the power source of the phone. And let's you control and adjust different aspects of the phone you'll never have the opportunity to during stock. Xposed installer can be "the big thing" based on your needs. There's no way you're going to learn all this in one thread so I'd advise doing some research first like everybody else. Google has a ton of lists on why you should or shouldn't root, and install different kernels and roms. This entire thread sounds like a giant troll to me but if it's not I would advise you do your research. Because why install a different rom when you don't even know why you're doing it?
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With an iDevice, Jailbreaking does things like allowing you to install non appstore apps, installing themes, and a few other odds and ends. With android, a lot of those things can be done out of the box. And anrdoid phone that has been rooted allows you to install custom ROMs, as has already been mentioned, and do various other things like overclock or underclock the processor and graphics, or make major changes to the phone itself. A lot of things you can do with rooted phone can potentially make the phone unstable or unusable to a degree, if you don't know what you are doing.
With root you can use the Xposed framework which can do a wide variety of things like changing the battery icon to show the percentage of the battery, make the notification bar at the top transparent, add widgets to your lock screen that you normally wouldn't be able to add, or even make it so you can hold the volume up or down buttons to change the song your listening to. There are almost endless possibilities with what you can do with rooted phone.....and that's really putting it in the simplest terms possible.
My suggestion would be to look around XDA at some of the things that require root access on you android device. Things like overclocking and underclocking, I wouldn't mess with until you have a firm grasp on what it can do and the side effect of what happens when you do it wrong.
Since it seems like you are new to android, I wouldn't worry at all about root, as you have a lot to learn before having root access will have any real use for you. It's much like buying a new house and wondering how many cable channels you'll be able to get. It's not one of those things that is a major priority. I've been using android devices for more than 5 years and still don;t find root access to be a mandatory thing.
I know what rooting is and what it does but I never found the great thing about it beside bloat ware is removed and the reason why I rooted was to get rid of them and can't get back to stock cause of bootloader is unlocked and can't get OTA on my phone with stock rom.
But I've read the ARHD rom offers OTA how do I setup my device to that. And I looked around in xposed installer and there are some preeeety nice software there
With root you are like a parent and can do things that you wouldn't let your kids do, such as eating chocolate before dinner. ?
The root user can do pretty much anything in a *nix OS, such as modify the system partition or running low level commands.
sliz said:
I know what rooting is and what it does but I never found the great thing about it beside bloat ware is removed and the reason why I rooted was to get rid of them and can't get back to stock cause of bootloader is unlocked and can't get OTA on my phone with stock rom.
But I've read the ARHD rom offers OTA how do I setup my device to that. And I looked around in xposed installer and there are some preeeety nice software there
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ARHD has never had OTA updates
the only roms I have used that did OTA is ViperOne and MaximusHD their could be others I have just not used them
InsertCoin uses an update system but it's not OTA like the others
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Im planning on customizing my new I9000, any tips for a noobie?
I had been reading a lot of posts here but it kinda made a little bit confused on where to start...
Thanks in advance for all the help guys!!!
customizing what? kernel ?
Hey there,
I got mine about 4 days back and after trying almost all the launchers available, IMHO, the Launcher Pro seems to be the best. I'm still trying all alternatives, but so far I have found nothing that compares with LP.
Do give their free version a try.
Cheers.
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Thanks for replying guys, any more tips/advice?
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customizing what? kernel ?
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That's exactly my point, i don't know what to do first, is it like rooting the phone? But i would like to keep some default apps in the phone to stay but totally change the UI...
skiddhard said:
Hey there,
I got mine about 4 days back and after trying almost all the launchers available, IMHO, the Launcher Pro seems to be the best. I'm still trying all alternatives, but so far I have found nothing that compares with LP.
Do give their free version a try.
Cheers.
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Yeah, Launcher Pro seems to be like a great alternative to TouchWiz...
spandsbab said:
Yeah, Launcher Pro seems to be like a great alternative to TouchWiz...
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To your earlier post, none of the launchers need your phone to be rooted or require a custom firmware (thank god for the sake of all noobs ).
On that rooting note, I am still trying to figure out the obvious and apparent advantages of rooting. Had an iPhone from the 2g all the way till the 3gs. It had the jailbreak and the unlock. Is rooting the same as jailbreaking in terms of functionality??
As a side note, see if you can give WidgetLocker a look. The stock Galaxy S lockscreen is boring and too plain for my liking at least. WidgetLocker allows you to put your widgets and icons right on the lockscreen.
Cheers....
skiddhard said:
To your earlier post, none of the launchers need your phone to be rooted or require a custom firmware (thank god for the sake of all noobs ).
On that rooting note, I am still trying to figure out the obvious and apparent advantages of rooting. Had an iPhone from the 2g all the way till the 3gs. It had the jailbreak and the unlock. Is rooting the same as jailbreaking in terms of functionality??
As a side note, see if you can give WidgetLocker a look. The stock Galaxy S lockscreen is boring and too plain for my liking at least. WidgetLocker allows you to put your widgets and icons right on the lockscreen.
Cheers....
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Thanks, great advice there! As for the rooting thing, well I heard they did some custom firmware that fixes the slight lagging thingy. I have had slight lagging when i listen to music and watch movies.. btw my firmware is JG2 (though it says in the Kies that it cannot be further upgraded, i doubt its the latest).
spandsbab said:
Thanks, great advice there! As for the rooting thing, well I heard they did some custom firmware that fixes the slight lagging thingy. I have had slight lagging when i listen to music and watch movies.. btw my firmware is JG2 (though it says in the Kies that it cannot be further upgraded, i doubt its the latest).
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Most welcome.
As for the updates, there are different versions available for different regions. For me in India the upgrade available was JG4. Mine was JG2 out of the box. The new version (JG4) has an inbuilt task manager and a little better performance than the JG2. It fixes a few performance issues from what I have read.
Not really sure how it works, but if you could cheat your system in believing you are in a different location (say India, for eg), perhaps you can get that update too. But do check if its safe pulling off a stunt like that. Check if the phone and the carrier like this at all.
Cheers....
skiddhard said:
Most welcome.
As for the updates, there are different versions available for different regions. For me in India the upgrade available was JG4. Mine was JG2 out of the box. The new version (JG4) has an inbuilt task manager and a little better performance than the JG2. It fixes a few performance issues from what I have read.
Not really sure how it works, but if you could cheat your system in believing you are in a different location (say India, for eg), perhaps you can get that update too. But do check if its safe pulling off a stunt like that. Check if the phone and the carrier like this at all.
Cheers....
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I have read it somewhere here in XDA that you can actually do cheat your location and that it is kinda okay to do that but I think you have to root/flash your phone for that... that's the reason I kinda lean towards rooting the phone cause guys here do faster and better job at fixing issues with the phone than Samsung...
spandsbab said:
I have read it somewhere here in XDA that you can actually do cheat your location and that it is kinda okay to do that but I think you have to root/flash your phone for that... that's the reason I kinda lean towards rooting the phone cause guys here do faster and better job at fixing issues with the phone than Samsung...
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Been doing some reading on the same thing too. The damn iPhone got me so used to jailbreaking, it seems NOT rooting the android is no fun at all....
Here are a couple of links to get you started I suppose.
/showthread.php?t=746129
/showthread.php?t=739300
Will be using them tonight for myself too. In the mean while, if you get an head start over me, best of luck....
Cheers....
P.S.: The XDA system is not allowing me to enter the complete links. A spam protection mechanism of some kind it seems.
skiddhard said:
Been doing some reading on the same thing too. The damn iPhone got me so used to jailbreaking, it seems NOT rooting the android is no fun at all....
Here are a couple of links to get you started I suppose.
/showthread.php?t=746129
/showthread.php?t=739300
Will be using them tonight for myself too. In the mean while, if you get an head start over me, best of luck....
Cheers....
P.S.: The XDA system is not allowing me to enter the complete links. A spam protection mechanism of some kind it seems.
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Yeah, rooting seems to be a lot more fun as i like tinkering a lot (my PC at work was my first victim). Anyway as soon as i get my wi-fi going (hopefully this week) i'm gonna to PM you, thanks bro!
It's only a little like jailbreaking an iPhone, because one of the main advantages of jailbreaking is getting access to apps that Apple wouldn't approve, and Google don't do that. Features that you had to jailbreak for, like multitasking and a deeper level of customisation, are standard in Android.
It's only really needed on Android for low-level manipulation of the system, like installing lag fixes, using backup programs like Titanium Backup, or tweaks like changing the CPU speed settings in SetCPU. I expect that most Android users would be happy never rooting, but most people here are, being either developers or interested in that low-level customisation.
Luckily, the Galaxy S is very easy to root! There's very little security against that (basically none in 2.1 builds), which is quite unlike a lot of other phones, some of which can require quite arcane methods exploiting obscure security holes.
Mithent said:
It's only a little like jailbreaking an iPhone, because one of the main advantages of jailbreaking is getting access to apps that Apple wouldn't approve, and Google don't do that. Features that you had to jailbreak for, like multitasking and a deeper level of customisation, are standard in Android.
It's only really needed on Android for low-level manipulation of the system, like installing lag fixes, using backup programs like Titanium Backup, or tweaks like changing the CPU speed settings in SetCPU. I expect that most Android users would be happy never rooting, but most people here are, being either developers or interested in that low-level customisation.
Luckily, the Galaxy S is very easy to root! There's very little security against that (basically none in 2.1 builds), which is quite unlike a lot of other phones, some of which can require quite arcane methods exploiting obscure security holes.
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I still get lag with I9000 (especially during music and video playing) though very minimal. I would like to try to just change the UI as I feel it still needs work on. Though, my question is can I still get the Froyo update with custom firmware?
As a new android user I have one suggestion for you:
Spend a lot of time reading about all the things you find on this forum and play with your phone a lot
I did not know anything about android or the phone itself (apart from tech specs and a few things I saw on hands on videos and reviews) till I signed up here. I've read a lot here that made me understand how my phone works.
Atm I'm using LauncherPro and my SGS is rooted and running JM5 firmware. If you read related articles you will find that unrooting your phone and restoring it to your stock firmware is fairly easy.
I have been installing, testing and keeping or uninstalling loads of apps. Some of them people have recommended here (like Titanium Backup) and some I just was curious about (like Unified Remote). So I would say browse the market or other onilne sources and experiment with new apps.
I even feel comfortable now to use adb to pull system files from the phone and see what's in them and if there's room for customisation.
Even been reading a bit about Java fgs
Fireloon said:
As a new android user I have one suggestion for you:
Spend a lot of time reading about all the things you find on this forum and play with your phone a lot
I did not know anything about android or the phone itself (apart from tech specs and a few things I saw on hands on videos and reviews) till I signed up here. I've read a lot here that made me understand how my phone works.
Atm I'm using LauncherPro and my SGS is rooted and running JM5 firmware. If you read related articles you will find that unrooting your phone and restoring it to your stock firmware is fairly easy.
I have been installing, testing and keeping or uninstalling loads of apps. Some of them people have recommended here (like Titanium Backup) and some I just was curious about (like Unified Remote). So I would say browse the market or other onilne sources and experiment with new apps.
I even feel comfortable now to use adb to pull system files from the phone and see what's in them and if there's room for customisation.
Even been reading a bit about Java fgs
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Yep two thumbs up for you! Well I have always felt I'm more of a Sith than a Jedi! Be stepping on the dark side soon too, thanks for the great advice and Ima doing it!
Hello Everyone. I am a long time Android User, new to rooting.
Before I get too deep in this I had a general question....
I have a Droid 3 that I am finding to be slow compared to my stock Google Nexus One. I really enjoy the qwerty keyboard and don't want to go back to my Nexus, However the lag in the contacts autofill indexing and email autofill indexing is Killing Me.
I run my email, calendar, and contacts etc through the gmail/ google apps platform and REALLY want to get the speed I had with my Nexus One on my Droid3.
What would you recommend?
How can I speed this thing up and still have a very reliable phone?
I also need to be able to use the following features (which work now):
wifi hotspot
tethering
hdmi out
bluetooth
calendar
Thank you so much for any insight you can provide. I am really impressed with the knowledge base on this forum.
Much Appreciated.
I am by no means an expert in Android devices but can definitely tell you that the 'slow down' you are experiencing is due largely in part to the poor ROM/Skin that is built onto the phone by Motorola and Verizon.
I would recommend rooting and trying out one of the custom ROM's in the Android Development section.
I have an XT860 so there are no ROMs really available at this point but from my experience with my HTC Desire Z, there was a night and day difference in speed and usability of the phone after I rooted it and began using custom ROMS.
For the Droid 3, 'Steel Droid' seems to be a very popular ROM, but again I don't have any direct experience with it because its not compatible with the XT860 (Canadian GSM variant of the D3)
Hope that helped a bit...
i use steal droid its great. renaming your bloat to .bak will speed up your d3. if you do use steel droid just flash dlna back.
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
its also for flashing roms in the form of .zips
Check out this thread in the development section, it is for Steel Droid specifically but in the first post, just after the changelog, he gives pretty good instructions on how to flash the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
johnniekombat said:
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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Be like me my friend. Just start searching around the xda forums, on google, rootzwiki, etc. Start absorbing information. I started with a normal Droid 3, and within 3 or 4 days, I found out just about everything I needed to know. You are correct about bootstrap, and it also allows you to install system files, theme files, kernel files, etc.
I would recommend Liberty. It's mostly AOSP (Android Open Source Project) which means it's not bogged down by Motocrap. It flies, you can still have some blur elements and I have not experienced a single bug.
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
Just my 2 cents, contrary to others I won't necessarily recommend flashing a CUSTOM Rom. But definitely update to the 5.6.890 to see an increase in battery life and performance, and root your phone so you can debloat.
I have seen no real improvement between custom ROMs besides the themes and user experience. however if you are satisfied with how your phone is running and have required apps you need to work, i'd just debloat the stock ROM yourself. it will be a lot faster with the bloatware frozen using an app like titanium backup. a lot of the custom ROMs end up having bugs, especially Liberty seemed to be causing trouble for some folks before the update. but basically all the speed improvements people are seeing is from the apps removed from running in the background that you don't need, so do that and youre good to go.
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I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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CHECK THIS OUT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 THEN USE THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1192795.html TO DELETE THE REST THAT THE FIRST DOESNT COVER. I KNOW THE SECOND IS FOR A DIFFERENT PHONE BUT DONT WORRY IT IDENTICAL. I PERSONALLY DELETED THEM. AFTER I CLLEANED UP DAVLIK CACHE AND MY PHONE FLIES ON STOCK ROM.
THEN DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND MAKE YOUR CAMERA BETTER WITH THESE SIMPLE THINGS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271927&page=2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326101
techno-update said:
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
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What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
I thought we needed a modded kernel to do any CPU clocking things...?
Seirÿu said:
What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
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Set cpu will only allow you to underclock and change governor. I would only suggest switching the governor to performance, which beware will drain your battery faster, because its reported that other than stock governor and performance cause phone to act goofy.
Cannot overclock yet, we may not be ever be able to because **** bootloader locking.
Just Froze most of the bloat ware using the free Bloat Freezer in the market and am already experiencing improved performance!!! Thank you all so much!
Well Im no noob to rooting.. rooted the Samsung moment , og evo, and evo lte.. some reasons for rooting were battery life, theming , faster.. well the HTC one seems fast, the theme is great, and battery life decent..
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I do it for for stuff like % battery, changing cpu/scheduler settings for better battery, debloating, ect. So you are the only one who can decide.
If you had to ask, you don't need to.
I don't say that as a pejorative. You're asking because you don't have a thing you need to do that requires root. So you don't need to.
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I usually run stock for at least a few months but the HTC One I rooted maybe after a week. The dot dot dot drives me nuts since HTC decided a menu key is not needed. The menu key is needed and it's still nice to have even on ICS compliant apps. There is room for it, I love this phone except for no menu key.
It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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Yeah I just went right the rooting process after having the phone for two days, simply for WiFi access. Also the custom ROM doesn't hurt (running Viper right more and will wait for CM10.1 to catch up). Will try the custom kernel to get the swipe to turn on/off, real soon.
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So since we don't have s-off, do I need to root the phone just like I did before using joeys gui flash?
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thlinx said:
So since we don't have s-off, do I need to root the phone just like I did before using joeys gui flash?
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Never used that application as it seems like it really doesn't offer anything outside of what GooManager and/or ROM Manager already offer. You may not have to root the phone, but you'll likely need to unlock the device with no S-OFF. The rooting process on this device isn't that difficult, and the videos on the forum from QBKing and wwJosh are solid and walk you through the process. All you really have to do is follow some simple instructions and use copy and paste.
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Main 2 reasons I root my phone's:
1)tethering, hardly ever use it so it's not worth paying the sprint fee, but when u need it u are glad u have it
2)ad blocking apps
As far as flashing kernals and hboots I usually don't fool with it. I find a nice stable customized Rom built off stock and stick with it usually.
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Super Tommy said:
It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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I would have to disagree with that; I actually prefer to stick with stock if at all possible. Sometimes there is a ROM out there that has such better performance all around to justify a switch (mostly Carbon-style ROMs that are minimalist), but I take satisfaction in running stock.
Rooting is also useful if you want to enable various features like GPS toggling/Airplane mode toggles for tools such as Tasker or Power Toggles, or to freeze/remove bloat.
Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
noahdev said:
Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
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It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
CMNein said:
It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
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In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
noahdev said:
In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
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Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
Drebin 894 said:
Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
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Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
gee2012 said:
Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
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Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
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Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
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Too each his own bro
I fully agree to each his own but if you do not see the advantages and personalization rooti g gives you then most likelyyou are the type tthat is satisfied with what you get. For me T9 calling alone is worth it, adjusting scree colors, raising the sound level,showing actual dBm signal strength, removal of all apps I don't want that were preloaded, darker ui experience. Now if you never try this then you wont miss it but its not lime you can't root it then unroot if you are not happy.
Bottom line updates will come the same day here whether rooted or not and these updates can also come with goodies...
Edit: Also lets be honest in a forum of 100.000's of members and rooter you will find maybe a few hundred or so that may have an issue and most of them I guarantee you was because of them not following directions properly. Thats what makes for rooting nightmares. Remember even non rooters from time to time have to restore their phones for one crazy reason or another. Now you have to restore back to 1 year ago when you first got the phone...SMH
I am having some trouble rooting and puting a custom recovery on my new Nexus 4, I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed the custom recovery through fastboot, but its not sticking, I don't know whats wrong.
UNless youir getting deadlocks letting your phone charge overnight, I would stay on stock.
CM is great, but there are just always broken things and bugs that will eventaully piss you off when you want to do something.
noahdev said:
Hi all,
What's gone wrong?
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Absolutely nothing, except for the very slight inconvenience of having to re-root or re-install TWRP after doing an Android operating system OTA update. Not only that, but I now have several "root only" apps that I needed, I have full access to the Linux command line programs which I use, and I am learning a lot about the Android OS lower level stuff. For me anyway, I really have no desire to install custom ROMS, as stock rooted Android does everything I want it to do.
There are stock based custom roms with CM type customization's... Again unless you have tried a stock customized rom with advancements you should not be judging. Also you don't have to use each cutsomization you can actually leave it stock and only use 1 or 2 custom items. Check out PSX 4.1 bone stock with a handful of customizations
There is really only one thing that annoys me about stock and that is the oversized Nav bottons. I just wished they made them smaller or gave us the otion to change the size. This is available on custom Roms and gives you more screen real-estate which definitley makes a difference.
That is one thing that keeps pulling me to custom Roms. I was running AOKP which seemed to run pretty good. I restored my phone back to stock because I thought I was having an issue with the notification light but then saw it just needed an app to make it work the way I was expecting it to.
So I have my phone rooted on stock 4.3 right now and I just wish I can make those Nav bars smaller! There are definitley cool features on some of the custom Roms though and it most certaintly can enhance your experience.
If ur not using the toolkit, then you should be.. If ur using and still manage to screw things, you should leave ur phone stock... The toolkits are already noob proof..
Connect phone to PC
Unlock boot loader
Root
Install recovery
Install ROM....
Its all 1 click each or some toolkits does it all in 1 click...
Rooted and running Paranoid Android + franco.kernel
my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
Lucke said:
my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
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Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
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Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
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no offense taken thats what i get for trying to root it while at work dealing with an Exchange upgrade
You can't really screw up a nexus device. It's not like Samsung where you hard flash the wrong version for the wrong phone and end up with a paperweight. If you mess up with nexus you can always return back
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My last nightmare with rooting was from htc desire hd, lots of bullcrap to be done, lots of s**t pre requisite..goldcard, emmc etc., ugh gives me headaches for days :/
Just use wugfresh toolkit and its a breeze
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I've had nexus' since the nexus one, and a whole lot of other android phones. I've rooted every single one of them, tried out various custom roms and mods etc. However the Nexus 5 is probably the first android phone I will own that I won't root. Its just so damn good from the factory that I don't think i'm going to bother. I'm curious to know if anyone else is in the same boat?
Im feeling the same way after a week of use. It seems so complete. But... let's be honest seeing all the cool stuff that devs are gonna come out with for kit Kat will probably draw us back in. I want to see what the paranoid team comes up with
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I've had nexus' since the nexus one, and a whole lot of other android phones. I've rooted every single one of them, tried out various custom roms and mods etc. However the Nexus 5 is probably the first android phone I will own that I won't root. Its just so damn good from the factory that I don't think i'm going to bother. I'm curious to know if anyone else is in the same boat?
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The decision whether to root my phone or not lies in if I can get additional functionality when rooting.
For example on a rooted phone, an app like Cerberus is capable of some pretty nifty stuff like uninstall prevention even on factory reset. So you can still track your phone even if your phone is reset. (not flashed over though)
That being said, I probably won't root my phone for awhile because I agree with you that the phone is awesome enough stock.
There are applications that require root, so yes, I will always root. There are literally zero drawbacks, and advantages, so I say why not. But no, I usually always install custom ROM's and mods, which I won't be doing anymore.
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I've had nexus' since the nexus one, and a whole lot of other android phones. I've rooted every single one of them, tried out various custom roms and mods etc. However the Nexus 5 is probably the first android phone I will own that I won't root. Its just so damn good from the factory that I don't think i'm going to bother. I'm curious to know if anyone else is in the same boat?
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Same here, flash addict! I haven't yet rooted and am trying not to so I don't waste countless hours anymore trying to gain milliseconds of speed, etc. This thing is so smooth out of the box I haven't caved in yet!
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Having root doesn't necessarily mean having a custom ROM... I just manually root the stock ROM.
I use a few apps that require root, but I need the stability of the stock ROM. Since I'm still stock I can flash any system updates that come along.
I was stock rooted on my Nexus 4 for months too, custom ROMs are nice and I applaud the developers who work hard on building them, but I don't need the extra bells and whistles, especially when they occasionally cause instability.
First thing I do with every Nexus is unlock the boot loader, flash a custom recovery and flash supersu... Manually, of course. Toolkits are no fun.
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I unlocked my boot loader before I booted up for the first time. It's done then, ready for any future mods. I'm on stock ROM and recovery, unrooted.
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I just unlocked the bootloader so far because I don't want to wipe my phone if I will decide to install a custom ROM and root. But so far I don't plan to do so. The N5 and KK just serve me well so far and it could be the first phone where I don't have to worry whether some features work or if the dev broke something. No offence, the devs here so some great work but you are never safe from instabilities - even on Nexus devices.
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I always unlock and root for the reasons already said where some apps require the elevated privileges. I've always gone custom ROM and custom kernel on all my last Android phones including my Nexus 4 last until I decided that I don't actually need the majority of things being done in a custom ROM and therefore went back to stock on the N4 and happily used it for the last 6 months or so.
I'm definitely staying stock this time round as apart from the quick settings toggles and quiet hours there's nothing I can call a benefit to me as this phone is a beast and so smooth. All personal opinions of course.
As I understand it, if you root and keep the stock ROM you can't accept OTA updates? Is this right?
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As I understand it, if you root and keep the stock ROM you can't accept OTA updates? Is this right?
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If you root your phone, running stock ROM, you still will get OTA updates...
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I rooted my samsung android device (had too samsung software is so bad). i rooted/customs my nexus 7 2012. i dont feel the need since the nexus 7 2013 and now the nexus 5.
Maybe one day to try ubuntu or something like that. but i'm perfectly happy without root for now.
Oh i will - the N5 still needs some improvements for camera and battery life. And i also don't wanna miss full control in ES file explorer.
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Rooted mine for stuff like titanium backup! its still stock. But i think i'll flash CM 11 sometime not too very soon =)
Rooted for adaway, as long as the boot image and recovery is stock OTA updates still work. i see no reason not to unlock bootloaders as soon as you receive your devices to avoid data loss later.
I root because its the only way to install adfree from the f-droid repo. It also allows me to use more features in apps like betterbatterystats and I can flash kernels easily using Franco's app.
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I've rooted mostly for helium, otherwise its stock
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Yeah, I feel the same thing. I'm waiting till all things become a bit more stable for kitkat, but as OP says, the N5 feels pretty complete out of the box. Yet, I miss some things that I used on my rooted N4, which was stock with some Xposed modules.
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I'm not root right now but there are 2 features I'm missing :
1- better DPI (everything is so huge!)
2- Block stupid pub by changing hosts file
I will probably root it later just for these 2...
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Rooting a Nexus is almost manadatory, it is a developer phone by nature