[Q] Unlocking any downsides? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there, i've got an Z1 ordered wich should be delivered tomorrow or the day after.
I've read a few threads in advance and even checked out some roms wich will suit me
I've got a question though;
It's not that beginner stuff, i have a sxs and i know what to do to unlock the bootloader and flash cfws.
I've read some posts about having camera issues in CM11 and that is has something to do with unlocking the bootloader (link)
i'm honest:i haven't read the whole thread so sorry if that issue should be resolved now.
now the point of this thread:
is there anything that can f**k up my device when unlocking it while completely following sony's guide?
or should is there another foolproof method?
next thing:
i've read alot about that touchscreen bug. if i have this bug, do have it right from the start or can it also happen later?
i don't want to unlock my device and then after some time falling victim to this bug.
last question:
if anything happens, worst case scenario:
i've unlocked my device and something happens to it. can i relock my bootloader without sony knowing that it was unlocked?
thanks in advance

xXFlippyXx said:
is there anything that can f**k up my device when unlocking it while completely following sony's guide?
or should is there another foolproof method?
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No, if you follow the instruction all will be fine, before that check if you can open it, type *#*#7378423*#*# and see Bootloader Unlock Allowed: YES or NO?
xXFlippyXx said:
i've read alot about that touchscreen bug. if i have this bug, do have it right from the start or can it also happen later?
i don't want to unlock my device and then after some time falling victim to this bug.
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If you have the problem then you have it already, you just don't know how to reproduce it. Unlocking Bootloader have nothing to do with it.
Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNV_jat9Z5Y
xXFlippyXx said:
if anything happens, worst case scenario:
i've unlocked my device and something happens to it. can i relock my bootloader without sony knowing that it was unlocked?
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Before Unlock Bootlader you have to root your phone and Backup TA and DRM keys, then you can Unlock or reLock your Bootlader.
Should be covered via warranty if the Booloader is locked, so if you Relock your Bootlader should be too.

I haven't read about any bricks just from unlocking.
Most bricks happen when going from 4.2.2 to 4.3

eclyptos said:
Before Unlock Bootlader you have to root your phone and Backup TA and DRM keys, then you can Unlock or reLock your Bootlader.
Should be covered via warranty if the Booloader is locked, so if you Relock your Bootlader should be too.
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do you really have to backup TA and DRM keys? i didnt do that when unlocking the bootloader (it took me 2h to unlock it and install a custom ROM, didnt have time to flash 3 ROMs just to get root and be able to backup TA/DRM)
afaik DRM keys are only needed for bravia engine which many people think is useless and even worsens image quality due to heavy sharpening..

Furma said:
do you really have to backup TA and DRM keys? i didnt do that when unlocking the bootloader (it took me 2h to unlock it and install a custom ROM, didnt have time to flash 3 ROMs just to get root and be able to backup TA/DRM)
afaik DRM keys are only needed for bravia engine which many people think is useless and even worsens image quality due to heavy sharpening..
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Then permanently lost yours DRM Keys, you don't have Warranty anymore on you device and features like X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia Engine.

eclyptos said:
Then permanently lost yours DRM Keys, you don't have Warranty anymore on you device and features like X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia Engine.
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warranty i didnt have from the start, so no loss there
X-Reality, Bionz and Bravia engine all sound like marketing gimmicks - especially x-reality/bravia engine which does nothing for image quality, use of TFT displays is Sonys biggest problem and no software enhancement can solve that (HTC still makes the best displays on the market)
and Bionz didnt help Sony make best smartphone camera on the market
the way i look at it, its just like having AOSP/Google device..

Furma said:
warranty i didnt have from the start, so no loss there
X-Reality, Bionz and Bravia engine all sound like marketing gimmicks - especially x-reality/bravia engine which does nothing for image quality, use of TFT displays is Sonys biggest problem and no software enhancement can solve that (HTC still makes the best displays on the market)
and Bionz didnt help Sony make best smartphone camera on the market
the way i look at it, its just like having AOSP/Google device..
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So you have your reasons and it's just you on 50 people without warranty. You also can't relock the bootlader but I think is not a problem for you.
BTW, I have to admit you are right, X-Reality, Bravia seems not help and Bionz didn't made Sony best smartphone Camera. Z1 still making middle range pictures.

eclyptos said:
Z1 still making middle range pictures.
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You sure you have the genuine Z1,not a Chinese fake? My Z1 does stunning pictures.
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i has a question!!!
when unlocking your boottloader it breaks the camera right?
the 4.3 update suposedly fixed that, or is that a device or version spesific thing?
because im saving up money to buy a SXZ1 Direct from sony and i am hoping to.unlock my bootloader without having to worry about the broken camera issue

olokos said:
You sure you have the genuine Z1,not a Chinese fake? My Z1 does stunning pictures.
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I don't know, in Galeria Promenada, Ul Ostrobramska, shop Teletorium they selling fake Phones?
In daylight all pictures seems good, I don't like the quality of 20mpx and 8mpx in iAuto. Too much noise, many complain about that, just a bit of low light and Bam, expensive camera gone on the moon. I don't like the pictures, my personal opignion. The phone is good to me and if it's fake they really do a hell of job in China, still Made in China the Genuine anyway so no big difference!
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Envious_Data said:
i has a question!!!
when unlocking your boottloader it breaks the camera right?
the 4.3 update suposedly fixed that, or is that a device or version spesific thing?
because im saving up money to buy a SXZ1 Direct from sony and i am hoping to.unlock my bootloader without having to worry about the broken camera issue
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Yes, the .290 update fix that and all working fine. Remember to Backup TA before Unlock Bootlader. You still missing X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia engine after unlock bootlader but the phone will working well and many ppl do not see any difference.

eclyptos said:
I don't know, in Galeria Promenada, Ul Ostrobramska, shop Teletorium they selling fake Phones?
In daylight all pictures seems good, I don't like the quality of 20mpx and 8mpx in iAuto. Too much noise, many complain about that, just a bit of low light and Bam, expensive camera gone on the moon. I don't like the pictures, my personal opignion. The phone is good to me and if it's fake they really do a hell of job in China, still Made in China the Genuine anyway so no big difference!
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Yes, the .290 update fix that and all working fine. Remember to Backup TA before Unlock Bootlader. You still missing X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia engine after unlock bootlader but the phone will working well and many ppl do not see any difference.
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ok thats good
ill be buying a Xperia Z1
Ill be Building Envi-OS Touch Edition and if can get a chance, Ubuntu Touch and maybe a few other things
X-Reality boinz and braiva i never cared for
they are only useful if the effect is permanent not only when the engines are on
thanks for your quick replie
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woah, my thread got hijacked...
i'd like to give feedback now:
i don't know of camera quality yet, since i still got those factory screen protectors on my z1 (those ugly ones wich you have to peel off). i'd like to keep it that way until i get my third party screen protector. i'm a bit clumsy and i don't like the thought of having scratches on sonys stock protectors. i will get my screen protector + case tomorrow
i'm halfway through unlocking the phone. it came with 257 (4.2) t-mobile branded, so i had to downgrade to 534 to get root. ive had to read alot before downgrading, i wasn't really sure if drm keys stay if i just downgrade via flashtool. took me a while too get those firmwares too .
the biggest problems i had were with my adb drivers. I had a SXS before, where all was pretty smooth. But i had dozens of problems to get those adb drivers for my z1 to work. Normally i don't have any problems with such things as drivers but those really got my nuts :/
Windows installed drivers of their own, wouldn't let me overwrite nor delete them. Either the drivers were to old or wouldn't fit device (wich was a lie). Good thing i have a ssd, because i've punched my desk more than a few times
now i'm on 290, with root and recovery. i have a backup of TA partition, and next thing i'll do is unlocking the bootloader.
second:
at the moment i lack of a rubber mat, so i can't really test my screen. up until now i haven't noticed any problem with the responsiveness of the screen. i'll report back if im through with that.

Nice, sorry i think the thread hijacking was my fault
Anyway z1 camera is as good as xperia s camera, sucks is lower light levels but besides that its amazing,
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[Q] is it possible to get bravia engine 2 back?

hey guys, im new to this forum,,
anyways,
i know that unlocking bootloader will take away xperia z's bravia engine,
but if i relock the bootloader again, will i be able to get it back?
opinions pls :<
P.S. : does losing bravia engine is a really big deal to you?
For now there is no way to get BE2 back after unlocking.
Maybe in the future, no one can tell.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Thaevil0ne said:
For now there is no way to get BE2 back after unlocking.
Maybe in the future, no one can tell.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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thanks for teh answer thaevil0ne, btw, do you think losing bravia engine is a really big deal?
For me, not at all.
I unlocked the bootloader even before checking out the BE, as I want custom kernels.
As far as I understand it will only work when you view pictures or movies with the Sony Album app.
If you browse the web or play games the engine will not be active at all.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Hey folks,
we often heard now that BE2 can't be brought back after unlocking bootloader.
My question is simple...WHY?? Maybe some dev can answer this question. I don't understand where's the link between unlocking and the BE2 engine. And why does this only affect pictures? That makes no sense...
In addition to that, there are a lot of ROMs for other sony devices which bring BE2 to them. Why shouldn't it be possible to bring it back then?
I understand that thing with loosing DRM support because of security issues...but an graphics engine....?
Greetz
Cube
Thaevil0ne said:
For me, not at all.
I unlocked the bootloader even before checking out the BE, as I want custom kernels.
As far as I understand it will only work when you view pictures or movies with the Sony Album app.
If you browse the web or play games the engine will not be active at all.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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reading your comment made me feel better, i thought xperia phones will be suck if theres no bravia,
DooMLoRD ported BE1 to Xperia Play back in the day, see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246402
So Iam pretty sure it must be possible to port BE2 aswell, maybe DooMLoRD could explain us a bit more?
Kind regards, Stefan.
TheAngryCube said:
Hey folks,
we often heard now that BE2 can't be brought back after unlocking bootloader.
My question is simple...WHY?? Maybe some dev can answer this question. I don't understand where's the link between unlocking and the BE2 engine. And why does this only affect pictures? That makes no sense...
In addition to that, there are a lot of ROMs for other sony devices which bring BE2 to them. Why shouldn't it be possible to bring it back then?
I understand that thing with loosing DRM support because of security issues...but an graphics engine....?
Greetz
Cube
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very true bro, maybe sony wants us to regret on our decision on unlocking it,thats why
nokbepogi16 said:
very true bro, maybe sony wants us to regret on our decision on unlocking it,thats why
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Maybe, but from my point of view, it's a feature supported by Sony. Why then punish users/devs who work on that nice piece of hardware to make it even better...
Thaevil0ne said:
DooMLoRD ported BE1 to Xperia Play back in the day, see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246402
So Iam pretty sure it must be possible to port BE2 aswell, maybe DooMLoRD could explain us a bit more?
Kind regards, Stefan.
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thanks for the positive thoughts bro,, please let me know if doomlords comes up with this port thank you very much
When you unlock the bootloader you lose things called DRM keys, these can never be restored after unlocking. These keys are used to make specific functions or features work. After you unlock as these keys are no longer there so some functions won't work. Sadly bravia engine is one of these things that stops working.
Bravia Engine 2 back
fareeed said:
When you unlock the bootloader you lose things called DRM keys, these can never be restored after unlocking. These keys are used to make specific functions or features work. After you unlock as these keys are no longer there so some functions won't work. Sadly bravia engine is one of these things that stops working.
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Has anyone tried this method: http://xperianeoldev.blogspot.be/2013/05/tutorial-install-bravia-engine-2-on.html ?
I asked the author of this tutorial if it would be possible to make similar deal with XZ and it is what he answered:
"Yes , use the tutorial given in the website it is working on all xperia smartphones"
Still hope to get BE2 back!
For all people here you will brick your phones. Unlocking your bootloader you do not loose bravia engine it was told 100x times read forum
bravia will be loss in album but video still work.
That's still half not working
Bootloader unlocked but I still have the option to turn BE2 on or off. I can't decide is there any difference when it's on then off...
Bravia Engine 2
defsix said:
Bootloader unlocked but I still have the option to turn BE2 on or off. I can't decide is there any difference when it's on then off...
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It surly does not work with the pictures.
Bth I had a few smartphones as far: iPhone (jailbreaked), HTC HD, S Galaxy Nexus, Galaxt Tab 7, and have never had problems like this that I irreversibly lost such important features after unlockimg the bootloader. Of course it is only me to blame as I should have done more research before but bearing in mind my earlier experience and the fact the instructions were taken fron offical Sony site I just felt too self confident.
Anyway I think next time I will not choose Sony smartphone as I am bit dissapointed with the situation esp. when you see BE ported on devices from HTC, Samsung or others.
sikoro said:
It surly does not work with the pictures.
Bth I had a few smartphones as far: iPhone (jailbreaked), HTC HD, S Galaxy Nexus, Galaxt Tab 7, and have never had problems like this that I irreversibly lost such important features after unlockimg the bootloader. Of course it is only me to blame as I should have done more research before but bearing in mind my earlier experience and the fact the instructions were taken fron offical Sony site I just felt too self confident.
Anyway I think next time I will not choose Sony smartphone as I am bit dissapointed with the situation esp. when you see BE ported on devices from HTC, Samsung or others.
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Do you still have the option for BE2? I also thought we lost the ability to get track info and movie info from Gracenote, that's still working fine for me. I don't do DRM so it's no loss to me.
I've not used other devices much, I vaguely remember with Samsung you're sideloading the firmware as opposed to Sony where you're unlocking to freely change the firmware... Correct me if I'm wrong.
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defsix said:
Do you still have the option for BE2? I also thought we lost the ability to get track info and movie info from Gracenote, that's still working fine for me. I don't do DRM so it's no loss to me.
I've not used other devices much, I vaguely remember with Samsung you're sideloading the firmware as opposed to Sony where you're unlocking to freely change the firmware... Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes I do. The button BE2 is still visible in my settings but there is no difference if I turn it on or off. For getting track info it is similar - I can start this option, wait until is finished. Then start it again and exactly the same number tracks is updated. You can repeat the process all over but in fact nothing is changed.
I don't know what you exactly mean "sideloading" but when I had Galaxy Nexus I could freely change the firmware, could have f.eg. JB with Touch Wizz from S3. Of course had no BE2 at all but the screen was more vivid so the pictures looked better (my opinion) than on XZ without BE.
Anyway there are mods which allow to install BE2 on devices from HTC, Samsung, Motorolla or other unlocked Sony models and that makes me even more disappointed.
sikoro said:
Yes I do. The button BE2 is still visible in my settings but there is no difference if I turn it on or off. For getting track info it is similar - I can start this option, wait until is finished. Then start it again and exactly the same number tracks is updated. You can repeat the process all over but in fact nothing is changed.
I don't know what you exactly mean "sideloading" but when I had Galaxy Nexus I could freely change the firmware, could have f.eg. JB with Touch Wizz from S3. Of course had no BE2 at all but the screen was more vivid so the pictures looked better (my opinion) than on XZ without BE.
Anyway there are mods which allow to install BE2 on devices from HTC, Samsung, Motorolla or other unlocked Sony models and that makes me even more disappointed.
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I still have the ability to use the Gracenote services, I updated all my music and it replaced the cover art, I also did the same with my movie & tv show collection.
On Samsung i believe the system is less secured when it comes to installing other firmwares hence the ease with which it's done. Firmwares can be installed without unlocking unlike Sony. (this is not my direct experience with Samsung only what I've heard)
As for BE2 it can installed on other devices and according to a post i read last night it's theoretically can be done, but not yet tried.
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[Q] do i loose keys, if i unlocked bootloader after .136 update?

hello ,
just wanted to know , that after upgrading to .136 firmware and later unlocking the boot loader, would i loose drm keys?
and boot loader have not been unlocked earlier, and after unlocking BL on .136 firmware , i am able to back up TA partition which has an size of 282 kb, is this right?
Everytime you unlock the bootloader you loose the DRM keys. Your TA Backup may be OK, did you check it with a restore dry run? My backup is very small too.
I am able to backup TA partation even after unlocking bootloader, ppol are saying you loose drm keys! Then how is it possible? And even I am able to dry run it. I am on. 136 firmware.
So is it that we do not loose DRM keys if we unlocked bootloader on . 136 firmware?
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buntybauva said:
I am able to backup TA partation even after unlocking bootloader, ppol are saying you loose drm keys! Then how is it possible? And even I am able to dry run it. I am on. 136 firmware.
So is it that we do not loose DRM keys if we unlocked bootloader on . 136 firmware?
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Well, there's only one way to figure it out
You have your first TA backup. Let's name it as TA1
1. Flash 136 FTF
2. Backup your TA (this is a different TA with your virgin Z1), now let's name it as TA2
3. Relock your bootloader using TA2
Check if it's OK or not. Well, I can't try this since I'm using CM now, and I lost my DRM key like forever (my hard disk was formatted where my TA backup was stored).
a backup made after unlocking the bootloader will NOT contain the DRM keys
Which features do we loose with the drm keys?
I found out the hard way that screen mirroring (miracast) won't work anymore.
I am able to download song infos.... X-reality works well, miracast works well.... Damnn I am confused.....
What function does DRM stops?
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buntybauva said:
I am able to download song infos.... X-reality works well, miracast works well.... Damnn I am confused.....
What function does DRM stops?
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Same here, unlocked after 136 on my c6903 and X-Reality works, Gracenote works ...
????
I think if we unlock boot loader after . 136 update, DRM keys are not wiped. As all the DRM key related features are working.
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Is this part of the workaround to get/keep the camera working on a unlocked Z1?
blueether said:
Is this part of the workaround to get/keep the camera working on a unlocked Z1?
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Broken camera on BL unlock has been fixed with this or the previous firmware.
Many may have noticed that after . 136 update our z1 phones already poor flash led has gone more weak, so night shots arent that gr8....
Just came across a post copied the following values at the bottom, in system, build.prop and rebooted.... And wolaa its works for me.
ro.media.capture.flash=led
ro.media.capture.flashMinV=3300000
ro.media.capture.torchIntensity=140
ro.media.capture.flashIntensity=150
*have edited some lines, and please try it at your own risk and dont blame me if anything goes wrong.
I am getting quite better night shots with the above mod.
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Hope the above mod would help ppol who have lost DRM keys and now are Un-able to click good night shots.
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For me, this is a reason to sue Sony. We bought the DRM licenses with the phones. We should not loose anything by unlocking our phones.
craoul said:
For me, this is a reason to sue Sony. We bought the DRM licenses with the phones. We should not loose anything by unlocking our phones.
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Due to the DMCA (digital millenium copyright act), Sony (and all others) are able to sell their phones (and other smart devices) to you under a license which doesn't permit you to do whatever you want with its software. Legally this means that they don't have to allow you to unlock their phones, but they do it as a deterrent for hackers looking for exploits, the idea here is that if we can unlock our phones through an easy process, we will be less inclined to look for exploits to do it in a way that Sony can't control, meaning they will have an easier time selling locked down phones to carriers who want it.
Because of this, Sony are able to set the terms of unlocking the bootloader as they please, and in this case they have decided that you are not entitled to the Sony-specific features if you do unlock.
If you really wanna do something about this, your best bet is to donate money to the EFF, an organisation with the goal of fighting ridiculous **** like the DMCA. They were the ones who made jailbreaking iPhones legal and they are actively fighting for net neutrality amongst other things.
One way of donating to them is to purchase a Humble Bundle, as all (standard) orders give 10% of the proceeds to the EFF, if you want you can even tilt that up to 100%.
Rekoil said:
Due to the DMCA (digital millenium copyright act), Sony (and all others) are able to sell their phones (and other smart devices) to you under a license which doesn't permit you to do whatever you want with its software. Legally this means that they don't have to allow you to unlock their phones, but they do it as a deterrent for hackers looking for exploits, the idea here is that if we can unlock our phones through an easy process, we will be less inclined to look for exploits to do it in a way that Sony can't control, meaning they will have an easier time selling locked down phones to carriers who want it.
Because of this, Sony are able to set the terms of unlocking the bootloader as they please, and in this case they have decided that you are not entitled to the Sony-specific features if you do unlock.
If you really wanna do something about this, your best bet is to donate money to the EFF, an organisation with the goal of fighting ridiculous **** like the DMCA. They were the ones who made jailbreaking iPhones legal and they are actively fighting for net neutrality amongst other things.
One way of donating to them is to purchase a Humble Bundle, as all (standard) orders give 10% of the proceeds to the EFF, if you want you can even tilt that up to 100%.
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Good to know, it is the last Sony device that I buy.
craoul said:
Good to know, it is the last Sony device that I buy.
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Good for you, but Samsung/HTC/etc aren't any better, they all require you to sign an agreement saying your warranty is void if you unlock. If you want an unlocked device Nexuses are your only option. If you want unique hardware that might not be completely unlocked then buy Sony/Samsung/HTC/etc. But if these special features you lose by unlocking really are so precious to you then remember that you never had them in the first place with a Nexus.
I think the way Sony do it is the best, other than nexus. And the comment about suing, that's why the word hats the US.
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I think the way of Sony is good. Better than HTC with the One X there was no chance to unlock the bootloader.
But, I noticed yesterday when I unlocked my Bootloader I don't lost the DRM Keys. I was already on the Ihackers 3.0 ROM (.136) unlocked and because of Bootloops I relocked the bootloader flash the 1.290 ftf then I rooted again and restore Recovery Backup. All things works Camera, Gracenote Walkman and other.
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There..... Now I think I maybe right, so when we unlock bootloader on . 136 DRM remains intact and does not gets deleted.
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Does X-Reality Work in Unlocked BL on KitKat?

Does X-Reality Work in Unlocked BL on KitKat?
Can Anybody Confirm That. I'm dying to have my BL unlocked but am doubtful regarding claims that X-Reality works perfectly on Unlocked BootLoader in KitKat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635986
There Are Still Doubts about whether BIONZ works or not.
halleyrokz said:
There Are Still Doubts about whether BIONZ works or not.
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You asked for x-reality.
halleyrokz said:
There Are Still Doubts about whether BIONZ works or not.
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Bionz works
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HellRoot said:
Bionz works
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ThanX
nobody cares or should care about that x-fake. the original pictures always look better
HellRoot said:
Bionz works
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It works even after Unlock Bootloader or it works after fix?
eclyptos said:
It works even after Unlock Bootloader or it works after fix?
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It works after unlock... Although there is a slight difference in quality of the pictures...
But it is not the bad... You can see the pictures somewhere on the forum here
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HellRoot said:
It works after unlock... Although there is a slight difference in quality of the pictures...
But it is not the bad...
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To me it is bad as there is a slight difference in quality then it not work properly, if not at all. We need concrete facts of what Unlock Bootloader damage on our phones and what, how the features still working. That what I didn't figure out yet.
I already unlock for a while to try doomlord kernel, x-reality i can't figure out there is different but camera is bad when unlock bootloader condition especially in low light,there is lot of noise , after relock i test in the same place and light and i can completely sure that bionz work on locked bootloader
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Well.
eclyptos said:
To me it is bad as there is a slight difference in quality then it not work properly, if not at all. We need concrete facts of what Unlock Bootloader damage on our phones and what, how the features still working. That what I didn't figure out yet.
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Ive actually explained this before so i wont do that again. But here comes a theory why ppl belive the features aint working.
The cam stopped to work completley pre 4.3 right ? Ye back then the Bionz was affected hence the camera didnt work with unlocked bootloader. The camera itself cant work if the Bionz chip aint there. Google for image processing chips for cameras in general and find out what it is.
Although, Sony fixed theese issues with KitKat and here it comes, brace yourself. If you google this you will get ALOT of answers about it. Everyone suffered from bad quality photos since KitKat was introduced(even the normal users that never fiddles with their phones). So, NO it aint the unlocking of the bootloader that does it. Sony fixed all thoose problems ppl were having with unlocked bootloaders. It is the new software that does it. Media reviewers actually wrote about this aswell saying that Sonys cam wasnt any good no more. Google is your friend.
A bonus theory here: The "conspiracy theory" : Wouldnt it be smart to make some features look abit worse on the Z1 when the release of the Z2 is just around the corner ? If a customer wants a really good camera phone and just cares about that. And when he is comparing the Z1 with the Z2 and found that Z1 is just as good camera wise but half the price he would buy that one i would guess. Buuuut if you make sure the camera isnt working as good on the Z1 but super good on the Z2 while releasing the Z2. Then that consumer might buy the Z2 instead. It could very well be marketing stunts so the normal user would go "ehhh this Z1 aint working properly, ahh well ill just buy a new one like the Z2".
And ofc, when the Z2 has been out for a while the software will be fixed on the Z1 making the ones that didnt jump the train for Z2 happy again so that thoose might continue to buy Sony Xperia´s.
All big companies wanna make money. They have smart ways of doing so aswell.
I will buy a OnePlus One when that is released here, and if that is so good as it seems to be and that the company will continue to produce "flagship killers" to the half price and a more humane price. I will continue to support them instead. But usually everyone making money will get greedy. :laugh:

Green photos with unlocked bootloader

Has anyone unlocked their bootloader and when you take a photo with pretty much any camera app outside of snapchat. The photos are just solid green?
Sadly didn't understand this whole DRM key thing til after the fact.
Also has anyone been able to relock their bootloader, keeps failing for me. I'd really like to use android pay.
thanks
Have you thought of going down the AOSP road?
Might fix the camera.
Didgesteve said:
Have you thought of going down the AOSP road?
Might fix the camera.
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Yea that's what I originally did, but certain things don't work. Like the front facing camera and fingerprint reader, and it's just not very stable.
I'm afraid u just thrown 600 bucks my friend... Nobody dares to unlock bootloader because the drm keys yet, everybody knows that... I don't think u will ever be able to restore your drm keys, since u didn't back them up... But I'll be happy to be wrong
The original DRM keys will not be recoverable, ever, but there's still hope to restore DRM reliant features via hacks like this or this. EDIT: Never mind the second link
Since @Meow_ has already unlocked the bootloader, maybe you can experiment with things a bit, see what works, maybe even do your own development if you're up to it. Good luck!
Almost all of the other Sony phones I've seen eventually get root and roms with built-in DRM functionality. Just wait a while.
Meow_ said:
Has anyone unlocked their bootloader and when you take a photo with pretty much any camera app outside of snapchat. The photos are just solid green?
Sadly didn't understand this whole DRM key thing til after the fact.
Also has anyone been able to relock their bootloader, keeps failing for me. I'd really like to use android pay.
thanks
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Hi Meow_,
You might want to check in with sToRm in this thread.
He has a DRM patch solution for the XZ Premium and wants to test it against an XZ1/XZ1c.
Oh sweet thanks

Bootloader unlock & rooting

So clearly this is still very early days given the phone is barely released yet but this is my first Sony Xperia device and just wanna check if the following will be possible when I receive it...
1) use this website to unlock the bootloader https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/
2) extract the boot img
3) patch the boot img with magisk and flash
Thanks in advance
Ah just found this site too
https://www.ytechb.com/how-to-root-sony-xperia-1-ii-and-unlock-bootloader/
Will be great to root and get xposed + gravitybox!
Be carefull, unlocking bootloader gave in the past lesser features for the camera.
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Be carefull, unlocking bootloader gave in the past lesser features for the camera.
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Thanks for the heads up, that's interesting and a little concerning! Hmm I guess we'll see how it goes...
Hmm seems perhaps losing such functionality could be avoided...
The link is not posting for some reason but Google "How to Backup and Restore Sony Xperia Z+ DRM Keys and Keep DRM Functionality after Root", perhaps this method could work
I've emailed Sony via the developers website whether unlocking the bootloader will result in losing camera features. Will post back here if/when they reply.
It'd be great to know, as if I get my device next Thurs I would love to get it rooted for substratum theming, ad blocking, edxposed etc
Here is Sony's response. Seems its gonna take a brave person to try this out! I think I'll likely just enjoy the device stock for a short while to get a feel for it and then see if unlocking is gonna be an option, as I wouldn't want to lose features but also I don't want a rootless android....
Perhaps the backup TA partition option (and the DRM keys) is the answer, but I don't know enough....
Not worth it in my opinion but to each his/her own.
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Not worth it in my opinion but to each his/her own.
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Agreed, certainly at this point...
One of the best things about the phone will be these features, but I must admit if I can't root it I'll be a little disappointed.
Let's see how things go ?
cd993 said:
Agreed, certainly at this point...
One of the best things about the phone will be these features, but I must admit if I can't root it I'll be a little disappointed.
Let's see how things go ?
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If its the same as the Xperia 1 then you'll have nothing to worry about when it comes to the camera
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If its the same as the Xperia 1 then you'll have nothing to worry about when it comes to the camera
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This is great! Has there been any detrimental effect at all? I mean obviously unlocking can pose some risks but indeed so long as nothing breaks or I won't lose any of the great capabilities I'm buying this phone for, then I'll likely just root soon after receiving it ?
Here is a thought, why not first try the phone in stock ?
I mean i was all for unlocking in the past, hell i even created custom roms.
But that was the time that we could actually add new features to the phone.
Brotuck said:
Here is a thought, why not first try the phone in stock ?
I mean i was all for unlocking in the past, hell i even created custom roms.
But that was the time that we could actually add new features to the phone.
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Oh definitely, that'll be what I'll do initially. I'll spend a day or 2 (patience permitting) just completely out of the box fresh and untouched, the way its intended to get that feel for the device. It'll be my first Sony so I wanna see how it runs. Curious also if the advertised motion blur reduction runs well, in comparison to the 90hz I'm used to. I wanna see how the battery life holds up to my usage and I definitely wanna get used to the pro mode camera etc.
Then, I'll enjoy rooting (which by then perhaps others are posting their experiences too) for all the benefits that brings. Plus then there's custom rom support in the works too.
Oh I just love that new device feeling!
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This is great! Has there been any detrimental effect at all? I mean obviously unlocking can pose some risks but indeed so long as nothing breaks or I won't lose any of the great capabilities I'm buying this phone for, then I'll likely just root soon after receiving it ?
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Only detrimental effect to the camera for the Xperia 1 was letting Sony write the software for it.
You'd lose the DRM keys so you'll lose the video enhancement, sound enhancement, widevine keys for watching stuff in HD and above in certain apps like Netflix.
Unlocking isn't really worth it in my opinion when software is pretty much stock Android with the DRM stuff.
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Only detrimental effect to the camera for the Xperia 1 was letting Sony write the software for it.
You'd lose the DRM keys so you'll lose the video enhancement, sound enhancement, widevine keys for watching stuff in HD and above in certain apps like Netflix.
Unlocking isn't really worth it in my opinion when software is pretty much stock Android with the DRM stuff.
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Hmm so when you say sound enhancement for example, do you mean Dolby?
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Hmm so when you say sound enhancement for example, do you mean Dolby?
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If I remember right it was the DSEE for upscaling audio to HD that was lost.
If you get the phone to focus on media then keep i'd keep it locked to be on the safe side. Let others unlock it first then see what they say.
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If I remember right it was the DSEE for upscaling audio to HD that was lost.
If you get the phone to focus on media then keep i'd keep it locked to be on the safe side. Let others unlock it first then see what they say.
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I think I will just to be safe...
There'll be some won't care about the Sony features as such and may proceed to unlock right away.
I'll enjoy the phone as-is for a few days and enjoy it as its meant to be enjoyed and in the meantime will see how others get on.
Cheers :good:
cd993 said:
I've emailed Sony via the developers website whether unlocking the bootloader will result in losing camera features. Will post back here if/when they reply.
It'd be great to know, as if I get my device next Thurs I would love to get it rooted for substratum theming, ad blocking, edxposed etc
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Can you tell me what email address you used to contact them as I have a couple of questions that they could answer very quickly? Thanks...
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Can you tell me what email address you used to contact them as I have a couple of questions that they could answer very quickly? Thanks...
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Sure, it's:
[email protected]
If you learn anything useful be sure to share!
Apologies if this is a total newbie question, but do I have to unlock the bootloader to flash official firmware too? I'm getting the phone from O2 in the UK and wanted to flash EE or generic EU firmware to unlock WiFi calling.

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